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Maybe should get rid of the default minimum bid for players aged 35+ or whatever. The manager can then list that player for 1 SMC (or any amount he thinks is fine or what he wants to get minimum) and let the market decide what is the real value for this old-ish player.

Well, depends on their value. I'm sure that Leeds would buy Milner for 1-2 mil euros in real life.
The problem is that his valuation is based on his age alone, meaning that ingame he's probably worth like 30 million.

The idea is good, but age needs to be implemented in the formula. The 'old players are hard to sell' idea is fully wrong, we see old players moving clubs on a regular basis.

thanks for info, I will stick with Ferrara, there is still time in this season, will be hard to promote, but I don't want to let fans down
and it is a small club, if they remember me on good play, maybe they will give me chance when real season start (joking a bit)


Opta is a good source, Sorare is using them as well
and yeah, old players are problem to sell, but as you mentioned it is the same in real football, so this should be replicated in a game

Yes, in the beginning it's all a bit overwhelming with this and that, the order books, the packs, restrictions on transfers, auctions etc. But in the end it's learnable pretty fast and there is no need to have it all figured out in an instant, there is enough time till full release. Beta is also for people getting accustomed to the game, the economy, the mechanics....the hardest part to learn is probably the tactics for the matches. Which tactics work best for your player material, which tactic works best against your supposed opponents tactics and all those things. Just learning by doing with no pressure and enough time, which brings me to this question:


Full release is scheduled for Q1 2023 and the beta will run until full release I think. There is around 7-8 weeks left for this season, so the new season starts around end of December. One season in Soccerverse lasts 19 weeks (38 matches, 2 matches per week), so if the schedule is met, the 2nd season won't finish.
But you can still go on a run this season maybe and then continue that run into the next season, sitting at the top of the table, when the beta ends (and then brag a little about that run and your finances being super clean ).

In game world -> best managers there is this list with the best managers, but the way it is calculated (which is bad imo, should be avg points per game) doesn't help in your case. If you want to promote no matter what, then you can also change clubs - Laranjeiras in league 3c is still unmanaged and they are #1 in the table But if you fail to promote, oh boy, not good for your reputation^^ You would also be in the same league as the other guys from here. Up to you, don't think snailbrain has a problem with you changing clubs. I can also propose you, if you wish, but it takes 4 days then.

da budem iskren, nisam ocekivao ovoliko interesovanja, cak sam razmisljao da li uopste da pisem o igri
sad mi izgleda super da nas par igra

thanks TyKiwanuka for all help and explanation
do you know how long will be beta, asking because we talked about promotion and good stats, so presume more than one season, and it is already hard for me to promote from 4B this season (took middle table team )

Thank you @tyKiwanuka for your explanations. The game looks pretty complicated at first, but that could acutally be a good thing. I checked the documentation of the game and it looks really well thought.

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Naravno da kod mene odmah problemi. Htio sam uzeti Bordeaux i javio se u Discordu ali admin tamo kaže da ne može pronaći moj username u igri. Isto tako sam claimao free pack ali nisam ništa dobio. Vidjet ću još kako to riješiti ali za sad sam odlučio riskirati 30-tak dolara za kupnju SMC tokena da kupim udjele u nekim igračima pa tako pokrenem zaradu. A možda i pomogne oko tog airdropa kojeg je netko spomenuo

Yep, I agree. For now the ratings are taken from soccerwiki, but for full game they are looking at verifiable data like from opta for example, which should make the ratings more realistic.
If players aren't taken from free bench, that is basically no problem for you as a manager, since you don't pay anything for that player. As a shareholder in that player, it's more of a problem of course and I wouldn't advise to buy shares in old players (not even CR7 or Messi).
Selling old players is a problem in Soccerverse, but so it is in real world as well. In Soccerverse you would have to plan your roster wisely and for example not renew contracts of old-ish players or sell them while they are still interesting to the market/lower division teams, but already in decline.



1) Be an exceptional manager in beta, so you already have a name when the full game starts. Being kind of active in the community also helps, otherwise no one will notice you.
2) Buying shares when full game starts. As said with 100+ shares (as of now) you can propose a manager for a club. Proposing is the one thing, but you also have to win the vote. So it's probably better to buy a good amount of shares in some smallish team instead of buying 100 shares in Barca and hoping that you will win the vote. With the smallish team, you can then climb up the leagues, while keeping good finances. Shareholders in bigger clubs will notice your success and look to hire you. It's like in real world - nobody starts coaching at Barca right away, you have to earn your merits first starting with a small team and showing your skills.
3) You can form some sort of alliance - maybe with Trofo, casperBGD, slackovic - and take over a club with all of you buying shares in that club. You will have lots of voting power and can kind of make it "your" club.
4) With the - yet to be implemented - tournaments you can show your skills without having to invest lots of money or already having a name. I guess the fluctuation with managers will be quite high, so there will always be clubs looking for a new manager. If your doing well in the tournaments, you might get contacted.

There are some things I don't like - for example, a 38-year old goalkeeper has the same initial valuation as the young one if their rank is the same.
It will simply make older players impossible to sell, and they won't be taken from the free bench as well.
Older player valuation needs to be fixed, and needs to be way lower than it currently is.

Considering that we're in beta and basically nothing is transferrable, my main question for now would be what can I do to become a manager ingame at launch.

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I like the general idea - but I do think it's a bit complicated. I do hope you get enough players willing to participate.

I wasn't a big fan of Discord in the past neither, but now I feel ok using it. Discord in general has the biggest gaming community and Xaya is planning to release a lot more games than just Soccerverse, so they decided to have Discord their main channel for communication.


All players - be it from transfer market or free bench - are auctioned. The auctions run for 7 days and you can see a timer in the transfer market. If you bid on a free bench player, he will get moved to transfer market for the auction then.
For transfer market it's 3 in and 3 out per season; you can sign as many players as you want from free bench though, as long as your squad size (max is 32) allows. It was designed this way to prevent cheating.
It's a fully decentralized game running without servers on the blockchain, so you have to get everything right from the get-go, changing things afterwards is a pain and only possible with a hard fork I guess. There is also no possiblity to ban accounts or whatever, it's an autonomous game world with all its pros and cons. So lots of design choices were made to make cheating very, very hard and the gameplay bot-resistant as good as possible.


I would think they are very important, also to maybe keep some players fresh, when you still have cup games on Mondays. I think I somewhere read about customizing formations in the future, but for now it is not possible and probably won't be at full release. 


There is slightly out of position, where the player goes yellow, which is still fine. But if you put a striker as RB, then he will get red and that is a no no then DML/R or CB as LB/RB is still good and their strength won't take a big hit. Lots of managers have to play players slightly out of position atm, because of lacking certain positions in their roster. A good manager also does well in roster management and signing the right guys for their favorite tactics or to be able to play multiple different tactics. It's not an easy game

You can btw always message other managers and ask them to put players on transfer market you are interested in. There is always a minimum bid though - again to prevent cheating.

I hate discord from the bottom of my heart so I will ask you here while you are in good mood to answer a couple of newbies

I made offers for two players, one from free transfer and one from some club. When will the bidding close? When next game gets played? I expected that I will immediately get player from free transfer if I match his price.

How important are situations for our matches. For now I just created one where I made my guys go all out attack if I am loosing in 75th minute. Any chance of adding custom formations? They were always my favorite part of managers.

How big hit does player take when playing out of position? For instance I have no RB/LB in my club, only DML/DMR. After tinkering a bit with tactics it seems to me that DML/DMR or even CB can be employed as LB/RB without big penalty to their stats.

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Sorry ekipa na englesom jeziku ali budući da imamo stručnjaka van našeg lokala, nadam se da nikome od vas ne smeta Vjerujem da ionako svi ovdje itekako dobro pričamo eng.

I will post in english, since I don't know how good the online translator actually is and maybe it's better to have ok-ish english than bad translated croatian.

So, as for the wCHI, you can buy additional SMC with it or packs directly. 1 pack costs 1 wCHI and gives you 100 shares in 5 random clubs (5x20). If you want shares from a specific club, you would have to go via the order book of that club and either accept sell orders that are already in the market or put up your own buy order and wait for it to get matched. In the order books you use SMC. You can also direct message users in the game, so if you see someone having lots of shares in a club and you would like to buy some shares from him, you can negotiate a deal/price and do it via the order book or by transferring the SMC/shares (this is not trustless though then).

Shares in clubs give you dividends twice a week on the matchdays. The more shares, the higher the amount of SMC you will get. So you will generate passive income and if your club does well - maybe promotes, wins the league or cup - the value of your shares should go up as well.

At the moment managers are appointed by majority vote from snailbrain, but this is not how it will be in full game. Every shareholder with 100+ shares can propose a manager. This proposal period is 24 hours and afterwards there is 3 days of voting.
Since this game is about real money, managers not only have to know their stuff on the field and financially, but they also must be trusted and reliable. Otherwise shareholders will get mad with him (if dividends are low and share value goes down) and sack him. So the beta can already be used to show your are good and reliable manager to maybe get a job in full game even without any shares - but it will be ultra hard, there are only 300 manager spots available^^

Then there are player shares. These are not bought with packs, but are all already available to buy in the order books of the players; 10,000,000 shares per player. With 10% of those shares you are able to propose an agent for that player, which most likely will be you yourself. Player agents get a wage (as do the managers of clubs) on top of the dividends they get for having shares in that player. The dividends are higher when your player is in starting line-up, scores or assists. So the agent will always look to a) have the best contract for his player and b) have him in starting line up. That is something he will have to negotiate with the manager of the club. If the manager refuses to put him in starting line up regularly, the agent can lower the morale of that player or request a transfer. Agents can also decide whether a contract gets renewed or not.

Soccerverse is directly linked to real world football. Lets say you already followed Haaland, when he was still playing for Salzburg, a young and upcoming super star. You could then buy shares in him and make yourself agent - and they will be really cheap. Haaland then became a star in Dortmund and ManCity and this will also reflect in Soccerverse. His rating will go up in the game, so will his wage, so will your dividends/wage and the share price will skyrocket as well. So, working as a scout in Soccerverse is what a lot of people are looking at. But you have to be well informed about real world football

There is way more to the game (and tbh I haven't it all figured out yet as well, especially the ingame economy), but to summarize, there are lots of different roles in Soccerverse: Managers, Agents, Traders, Hodlers, Scouts. It's a very social game, where all roles have to communicate with each other to max out the success for their clubs, players and with that their personal financial gains of course.

All dividends are paid in SMC and you can either re-invest them to build up a bigger position in the game or you can exchange the SMC for wCHI and then to ETH/BTC or whatever you like.

Currently the game is running on Polygon, but it's not yet decided if the full game will be on Polygon as well. I am not a big fan of Polygon too, lets see what the team decides.

Feel free to post any questions here (I will answer in english, if that is ok for you) and/or you can DM me in Discord or ask in the respective channels there.

Igrači se kupuju s lovom od kluba. Svaki klub je DAO i ima svoje shareholdere, svaki igrač isto ima svoje shares. Ti sa tom lovom kupuješ shares u igračima i klubovima ako sam dobro shvatio. Onda svi koji imaju shares glasaju da li će igrač preći u neki klub ili shareholderi kluba kome će dati posao managera. Pokušaj razvijanja realistične ekonomije.

Ti za taj token kupiš nekakav nazovimo pack di dobiješ 20 share u 5 klubova, onda ih se valjda trejda. Tek sam krenuo i samo posluižio ekipu za prvu utakmicu i dao ponudu za dva igrača.

@tyKiwanuka is a great guy and he will help us for sure if have some question. Don't want to bother him before I do some research on my own. He is in this from the beginning so knows as much as core team

Prvo sam se registrirao i preko gumba Free claim zatražio tokene koji nikako nisu dolazili u wallet. Onda sam išao proučiti upute i tamo je pisalo da treba swapati MATIC za WCHI. Ja sam swapao 5 USDC i dobio oko 45 WCHI što mi je bilo dovoljno za registraciju. Mislim da sam negdje (u uputama ili na Discordu) pročitao da je 2 WCHI dovoljno za start tako da nije skup početak. Ja sam prebacio 5 USDC samo zato jer nisam imao ništa na Polygonu, a nisam htio bridgeati 1 USDC i platiti veći gas nego što je vrijednost.

A kako se troši u beti? Kupovinom igrača? Za sad slabo kužim igru iako mi se, sudeći po uputama, čini da je puno bolje razrađena nego što je bio Footbattle. Još da radi na Arbitrumu umjesto na Polygonu... Ne znam zašto ne volim Polygon ali ne volim ga

Btw, jel i vama sučelje nekako sporo?

Tu si već ispred nas  Za sta su ti trebali tokeni? Vidio sam se piše o njima ali ima i onaj airdrop koji dobijes koji ti je dosta da počneš igrati. Ja barem nisam potrosio ništa osim love za par transakcija do sad.

U svakom slučaju dobro da jesi jer kad krene prava igra početkom godine trebao bi dobiti veći airdrop u ovisnosti o tome koliko si potrosio u beti.

Evo i mene Sjećam se kako nam je bilo dobro dok smo igrali Footbattle pa zašto ne probati. Malo sam zazujao u početku jer sam mislio da ću besplatno dobiti WCHI ali onda sam pogledao tutorial (https://docs.soccerverse.io) i kupio tokene za 5 dolara. Uzeo sam klub iz lige u kojoj su Trofo i cryptofrka pa ćemo vidjeti. Javio sam se na Discordu i sad čekam da me admin doda kao menadžera kluba.

Oprostite zbog online prevoditelja

Doći će animacija, a također i turniri za menadžere (trenutno) bez kluba da pokažu svoje vještine:


Source: Soccerverse Discord


Source: Soccerverse Discord


Možete provjeriti vodič - ili pitati u Discordu ako nešto nije jasno : https://docs.soccerverse.io/

Tu je i član zajednice koji redovito snima videozapise s vodičima: https://www.youtube.com/c/NickxCrypto/videos

Moram priznati, skroz fora izgleda taj Soccerverse. Uzeo sam klub, 3. C liga mid table, u istoj ligi vidim i Trofa koji je bod ispred na 6. mjestu.

2 idu dalje tako da sumnjam da ću nešto pametno napraviti već ove sezone, opstanak je već osiguran  sobzirom da preuzimam u 25. kolu.

Ima negdje neki FAQ kako se točno igra i što moramo? Uzeo sam klub s hrpom love pa bi već krenuo u šoping

ne znam ga
inace, igra je aktivna vec dugo vremena, u razlicitim oblicima, bila je i alfa, ali je bila potrebna instalacija, pa sam tada instalirao na nekom racunaru koji retko koristim, i onda je bio smor logovanja

sad se samo prikljucis putem novcanika, i dosta je zanimljivije, ima dosta aspekata, ulog u samom klubu, ulog u igrace, i vodjenje kluba
bas izgubih 4:2 juce, ali bice bolje, jedino sto nema animacije same igre, ali retko koji menadzer to i ima

tyki se obratis za klub na Discord-u

Bacio sam pogled malo, izgleda zanimljivo na prvu i mislim da ću se uključiti. Jel znaš tyki sa discorda? Što je on tamo? Ako je to onaj na kojeg mislim bio je nekada jako aktivan na forumu pa mu je dojadilo. Profesionalni kladioničar i super lik. Pričao mi je još davno o manager nogometnom ali tada je bilo u povojima i mislim da se drukčije zvalo.

na temi fudbalskih menadzera, ima jedna prilicno solidna igra u beti - Soccerverse
mozete se prijaviti na sajtu i uzeti tim, igrica je na Polygon-u, jos nema token, a airdrop ce biti podeljen aktivnim igracima, bez obzira na uspeh tima

u biltenu ima link, u delu sta uraditi (nije referall, nema takvih linkova, bitna je samo aktivnost u igri) - Bilten 51

tim se sastavlja za svako kolo (svaka tri dana), potrebno je platiti Polygon transakciju za izmene tima, a tim se preuzima u Discord kanalu (pogledate na tabeli koji tim za sada nema menadzera) - ja vodim Ferrara-u u Ligi 4B, ako je neko za takmicenje