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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 06, 2020, 06:48:05 AM

Support already response to my question. They didn't void the game which result to my loss. Damn dota2 sports betting, they should void it because its not fair to continue it while the game is even by the time Execration got disconnected. Good thing was I bet only sufficient amount that I can afford to lose. But I really think Fortunejack should void that match because it's really very unfair. Imagine spectre with highest gold rank in the match got surrender. Undecided

I wonder what other casino do on that same match result. Roll Eyes

I think that is kind of industry standard for eSports. Most sites I use void the map which was affected by disconnect and pay out ML like nothing happened. That is why always read T&C before betting.

This is even bigger problem for tennis, there are sites that will void the game if one players gets injured while others proceed with winner like nothing happened. For some it is voided if one set is played for other if one game is played etc..

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I bet on Dota2 Execration VS 496 game today and there is technical malfunction in the side of Execration which results to early surrender from there side. Is the game is still on? Because I don't see anymore the game in the sportsbook so I wonder if the game will be void or will continue. I hope for your response this time. I chat already the live support but still no answer to my question.

Thank you.

The game continued and 496 won second map as well. I had a bet on them so watched it live. I don't know how FJ will value the game but my local bookie paid out the bets for ML and voided only the bets on 1.map. Sounds like a fair combination to me.

Support already response to my question. They didn't void the game which result to my loss. Damn dota2 sports betting, they should void it because its not fair to continue it while the game is even by the time Execration got disconnected. Good thing was I bet only sufficient amount that I can afford to lose. But I really think Fortunejack should void that match because it's really very unfair. Imagine spectre with highest gold rank in the match got surrender. Undecided

I wonder what other casino do on that same match result. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 06, 2020, 03:25:16 AM

I bet on Dota2 Execration VS 496 game today and there is technical malfunction in the side of Execration which results to early surrender from there side. Is the game is still on? Because I don't see anymore the game in the sportsbook so I wonder if the game will be void or will continue. I hope for your response this time. I chat already the live support but still no answer to my question.

Thank you.

Best option for you is go to site and talk to support as they are available 24 hours for all issues hopefully you will have your reply within few minutes because most of time every site works differently so chat with any agent for your best reply.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 06, 2020, 03:25:16 AM

I bet on Dota2 Execration VS 496 game today and there is technical malfunction in the side of Execration which results to early surrender from there side. Is the game is still on? Because I don't see anymore the game in the sportsbook so I wonder if the game will be void or will continue. I hope for your response this time. I chat already the live support but still no answer to my question.

Thank you.

The game continued and 496 won second map as well. I had a bet on them so watched it live. I don't know how FJ will value the game but my local bookie paid out the bets for ML and voided only the bets on 1.map. Sounds like a fair combination to me.

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I bet on Dota2 Execration VS 496 game today and there is technical malfunction in the side of Execration which results to early surrender from there side. Is the game is still on? Because I don't see anymore the game in the sportsbook so I wonder if the game will be void or will continue. I hope for your response this time. I chat already the live support but still no answer to my question.

Thank you.

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Quote from: darewaller on August 05, 2020, 11:57:13 AM

Maybe he is using a third party app that allows him to put up bunch of bets all at the same time just putting them on a line to get through all together or whatever. There are tons of apps like seuntjie or stuff and that could really help people out, that way you could just simply focus on how to make as much profit as you can but also focus on just gambling for gambling sake and have as many bets as you can.

Do they make it faster? I have no idea, but if they do, that could be the answer. Honestly looking at the website what they are doing looks impossible, so there must be a way that they are doing which we can't really see or understand, I have no idea what that could be but I am pretty sure there is a method that is not known to other people which they trick the website for faster betting.

But seuntjie and all these apps I know about, they still depend on YOUR speed. API connections are actually even slower. Like for me, I use a slow connection and using seuntjie is half the speed. It is great because it tracks data and keeps it on your device and does not time out unlike autobets on some sites.

But FJ's issue is it times out on the site and logs you out even on auto:) Let's hear what they say!

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Honestly I still think that you could play on the same account at two places, I can't do it, it is not working with chrome+opera but maybe tor?

After testing it on my end, I believe what happens is that it only allows one dice session at a time, and any new sessions simply void the obsolete ones. If that is the case, then I do not see any way for sonx to reach such a high betting speed without exploiting the dice game somehow.

Two of the automatic dice still keep the speed at roughly 8bps whereas you would need to shift that by at least 30% to get to sonx's speed... and I don't imagine many people could do that with just a faster connection, right?

I did try my self when I participated on the dice competition. As you have just tried, the autobet on the first tab stopped just after I start the autobet on the 2nd tab. I also tried with two different browser, the same happened. I do not think it is about internet connection as I think my connection is good enough (20mbps) but still hard to compete with the other participants. Sonx must have special trick to do so fast betting speed so he could gain much more points than others. Afaik most participants played with the same payout (2x).

Maybe he is using a third party app that allows him to put up bunch of bets all at the same time just putting them on a line to get through all together or whatever. There are tons of apps like seuntjie or stuff and that could really help people out, that way you could just simply focus on how to make as much profit as you can but also focus on just gambling for gambling sake and have as many bets as you can.

Do they make it faster? I have no idea, but if they do, that could be the answer. Honestly looking at the website what they are doing looks impossible, so there must be a way that they are doing which we can't really see or understand, I have no idea what that could be but I am pretty sure there is a method that is not known to other people which they trick the website for faster betting.

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Quote from: actmyname on August 04, 2020, 03:21:42 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 02, 2020, 03:19:42 PM

Honestly I still think that you could play on the same account at two places, I can't do it, it is not working with chrome+opera but maybe tor?

After testing it on my end, I believe what happens is that it only allows one dice session at a time, and any new sessions simply void the obsolete ones. If that is the case, then I do not see any way for sonx to reach such a high betting speed without exploiting the dice game somehow.

Two of the automatic dice still keep the speed at roughly 8bps whereas you would need to shift that by at least 30% to get to sonx's speed... and I don't imagine many people could do that with just a faster connection, right?

I did try my self when I participated on the dice competition. As you have just tried, the autobet on the first tab stopped just after I start the autobet on the 2nd tab. I also tried with two different browser, the same happened. I do not think it is about internet connection as I think my connection is good enough (20mbps) but still hard to compete with the other participants. Sonx must have special trick to do so fast betting speed so he could gain much more points than others. Afaik most participants played with the same payout (2x).

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on August 02, 2020, 03:19:42 PM

Honestly I still think that you could play on the same account at two places, I can't do it, it is not working with chrome+opera but maybe tor?

After testing it on my end, I believe what happens is that it only allows one dice session at a time, and any new sessions simply void the obsolete ones. If that is the case, then I do not see any way for sonx to reach such a high betting speed without exploiting the dice game somehow.

Two of the automatic dice still keep the speed at roughly 8bps whereas you would need to shift that by at least 30% to get to sonx's speed... and I don't imagine many people could do that with just a faster connection, right?

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Honestly I still think that you could play on the same account at two places, I can't do it, it is not working with chrome+opera but maybe tor? I don't know, that could be the key to it, you could open the same account in two places and play at the same time, which would ruin the bankroll obviously but it could work.

I don't know what type of browser it is required, maybe one regular and one ToR but I know that that is what they must be doing, they are just damn to fast to say it is clicking or it is something else, they are just way too fast to be human controlled, it is definitely machinery that does this because the pace is like that. Obviously we are going to see a lot of these fast betters, the points will always be too much to match for regular humans to just participate and win.

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Quote from: actmyname on August 01, 2020, 07:03:49 PM

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I looked at his bets and I could say that he was betting with 2x payout. I did the same with two dice X and Y, but I could not even get closer to him or other participants. I'm not really sure how fast his betting speed, but looks impossible for me to get the same speed. I decided not to participate again as I know that I have no chance to win it. I finished 5th on the 2nd day, not even get close to the 4th position lol.

Maybe he found some exploit to speed up his bets in some way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or perhaps he's just a fast clicker? Tongue

I'm not sure how much they throttle the manual rolling of the dice but if you clicked fast enough you could probably get 12 clicks per second... but throughout 4 hours? Maybe with an autoclicker or a script.

I still could not see much points for myself but yeah this competiton would have been impossible for me to join because it seems you'd have to have bet for crazy clicking speed (for 4 hours too damn) to get the kind of points you guys were going for. Probably worth it for most guys who actually have good connection, not so for us whose internets aren't the fastest.

Well done though to all.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 01, 2020, 05:32:45 PM

I looked at his bets and I could say that he was betting with 2x payout. I did the same with two dice X and Y, but I could not even get closer to him or other participants. I'm not really sure how fast his betting speed, but looks impossible for me to get the same speed. I decided not to participate again as I know that I have no chance to win it. I finished 5th on the 2nd day, not even get close to the 4th position lol.

Maybe he found some exploit to speed up his bets in some way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or perhaps he's just a fast clicker? Tongue

I'm not sure how much they throttle the manual rolling of the dice but if you clicked fast enough you could probably get 12 clicks per second... but throughout 4 hours? Maybe with an autoclicker or a script.

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The point is based on the multiplier of the game so if you win x2 multiplier and then x4 multiplier , that would be 6 points for you. If they cap it at 8 bets per second and you play with 2x multiplier then win atleast 4 times that would be 8 points per second ( this could be higher depending on the multiplier that the first rank uses on their autobet though )

The payout doesn't matter. Suppose you play with a 2x multiplier: that is a 49.5% chance of winning. Therefore, in 100 bets, you are expected to get 99 points. Suppose you play with a 3x multiplier: that is a 33% chance of winning. Therefore, in 100 bets, you are expected to get 99 points.

With any particular payout M you have an associated probability P and the equality can be expressed as the following: M = 1/P * 0.99

Therefore, when you want to calculate the total number of points one will get (statistically/on average), then you are going to get the expression MP * n, where n is the number of bets that one plays. Notice, though, that it expands into P/P * 0.99 * n = 0.99n. The only difference comes in volatility, but when you consider a duration of 4 hours it is a little difficult to say that they were just lucky for the entire time.

Does that cap at 8 bets per second means 8 bets per second on each dice game? It seems that you can run two dice game at the same time, dice X and dice Y. Im not too sure about this but it seems you can run two simultaneously which should make this faster. That guy could be simply damn lucky or...

or FJ doesnt want anyone to take on the first prize so yeah you know what I mean Roll Eyes

Now that I take a closer look at this, I kinda feel the color scheme for the dice game is bad. The dice game on the old website was much better Tongue

I tried to participate on the dice promo (2nd day). It was hard for me to compete with all those winners especially s**x who always win the 1st place. I looked at his bets and I could say that he was betting with 2x payout. I did the same with two dice X and Y, but I could not even get closer to him or other participants. I'm not really sure how fast his betting speed, but looks impossible for me to get the same speed. I decided not to participate again as I know that I have no chance to win it. I finished 5th on the 2nd day, not even get close to the 4th position lol.

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It is vacation in most of the countries. Maybe for that purpose the campaign length might have been shortened for the immediate launch of the new dice game. FortuneJack already have good trust, so it'll easily reach more number of gamblers in a short time.

Exactly, this was also comes up in my mind.

It's a hanging question why the campaign only take 4 days and why not 1 week.

Signature campaign is really effective marketing as what you can see, there is company like FJ who willing to publish and rund campaign even a short period of time.

With a huge number of participants, I think it is enough to spread and promoted the site even though it takes only 4 days in campaign. In fact, Fortunejack.com has been existed for a long time and I know that gamblers had known its name already.

But much better if the company will run the campaign for a long period of time to drive a better result.

FortuneJack had already the most attractive campaign ran for many years but it has been closed recently. Now they come up with small campaigns which last for few days to one/two weeks. They are one of the best site and the marketing managers know better on how should the campaign run now. Even if their recent campaign last for 4 days only but yet it is still the highest paying campaign.

That is the thing about signature campaigns that most people are not realizing and that is the problem. When you are running a signature campaign as a new website that started just recently, you are going to get some players to your website but it may not financially be worth it, however at the same time that is not the point of signature campaigns at all, it could be used that way to start the customer acquiring a bit, but it is not like that.

What signature campaign does is the fact that if you are already established company like fortunejack you are mostly doing more like reminding yourself to people, it is more PR and that's it. You are already known, you just lets say make a promotion or a competition or whatever and you just get that heard, that way you are already known and they like you, and you get that promotion heard.

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Quote from: actmyname on July 31, 2020, 05:54:54 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 31, 2020, 05:44:50 PM

The point is based on the multiplier of the game so if you win x2 multiplier and then x4 multiplier , that would be 6 points for you. If they cap it at 8 bets per second and you play with 2x multiplier then win atleast 4 times that would be 8 points per second ( this could be higher depending on the multiplier that the first rank uses on their autobet though )

The payout doesn't matter. Suppose you play with a 2x multiplier: that is a 49.5% chance of winning. Therefore, in 100 bets, you are expected to get 99 points. Suppose you play with a 3x multiplier: that is a 33% chance of winning. Therefore, in 100 bets, you are expected to get 99 points.

With any particular payout M you have an associated probability P and the equality can be expressed as the following: M = 1/P * 0.99

Therefore, when you want to calculate the total number of points one will get (statistically/on average), then you are going to get the expression MP * n, where n is the number of bets that one plays. Notice, though, that it expands into P/P * 0.99 * n = 0.99n. The only difference comes in volatility, but when you consider a duration of 4 hours it is a little difficult to say that they were just lucky for the entire time.

Does that cap at 8 bets per second means 8 bets per second on each dice game? It seems that you can run two dice game at the same time, dice X and dice Y. Im not too sure about this but it seems you can run two simultaneously which should make this faster. That guy could be simply damn lucky or...

or FJ doesnt want anyone to take on the first prize so yeah you know what I mean Roll Eyes

Now that I take a closer look at this, I kinda feel the color scheme for the dice game is bad. The dice game on the old website was much better Tongue

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Quote from: Viscore on July 31, 2020, 05:52:28 PM

Quote from: ReiMomo on July 31, 2020, 01:11:43 PM

Quote from: Zuilhsa on July 31, 2020, 01:03:42 PM

It is vacation in most of the countries. Maybe for that purpose the campaign length might have been shortened for the immediate launch of the new dice game. FortuneJack already have good trust, so it'll easily reach more number of gamblers in a short time.

Exactly, this was also comes up in my mind.

It's a hanging question why the campaign only take 4 days and why not 1 week.

Signature campaign is really effective marketing as what you can see, there is company like FJ who willing to publish and rund campaign even a short period of time.

With a huge number of participants, I think it is enough to spread and promoted the site even though it takes only 4 days in campaign. In fact, Fortunejack.com has been existed for a long time and I know that gamblers had known its name already.

But much better if the company will run the campaign for a long period of time to drive a better result.

FortuneJack had already the most attractive campaign ran for many years but it has been closed recently. Now they come up with small campaigns which last for few days to one/two weeks. They are one of the best site and the marketing managers know better on how should the campaign run now. Even if their recent campaign last for 4 days only but yet it is still the highest paying campaign.

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And I wonder what's gonna be the new one after this Dice Campaign for it is said only a 4day Campaign, they're surely fast at giving new features/games/promos,...
Only few days are being considered as vacant. No doubt on why there are many gamblers are attracted to FJ.

(waiting for those reviews)

It is vacation in most of the countries. Maybe for that purpose the campaign length might have been shortened for the immediate launch of the new dice game. FortuneJack already have good trust, so it'll easily reach more number of gamblers in a short time.

I don't think that's it but still it help for some users to play with their time, besides most of the users here in FJ are playing with sports so just maybe the new content was just for a new air to breath.
Anyways, its been weeks already and I'm waitig for the official launch of the new website, though I still find the old one better.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 31, 2020, 05:44:50 PM

The point is based on the multiplier of the game so if you win x2 multiplier and then x4 multiplier , that would be 6 points for you. If they cap it at 8 bets per second and you play with 2x multiplier then win atleast 4 times that would be 8 points per second ( this could be higher depending on the multiplier that the first rank uses on their autobet though )

The payout doesn't matter. Suppose you play with a 2x multiplier: that is a 49.5% chance of winning. Therefore, in 100 bets, you are expected to get 99 points. Suppose you play with a 3x multiplier: that is a 33% chance of winning. Therefore, in 100 bets, you are expected to get 99 points.

With any particular payout M you have an associated probability P and the equality can be expressed as the following: M = 1/P * 0.99

Therefore, when you want to calculate the total number of points one will get (statistically/on average), then you are going to get the expression MP * n, where n is the number of bets that one plays. Notice, though, that it expands into P/P * 0.99 * n = 0.99n. The only difference comes in volatility, but when you consider a duration of 4 hours it is a little difficult to say that they were just lucky for the entire time.

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