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Quote from: buwaytress on July 17, 2020, 02:04:59 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

You've been playing and don't know? Haha, no there aren't any strings attached, it's been confirmed in the past. 1 BTC all yours. I've won the freebet and the winnings were all mine to withdraw. Unfortunately I managed to find a way to turn my $700+ winnings from freeet into zero when I bet all-in on Champions League on Liverpool. I hope I do withdraw at least 0.5 BTC if I win the big one though!

Idk, guys, I think since it's a free roll it would be fair to require some rollover, but if there is no such requirement ... well, that's a generous move on the part of FortuneJack.

Sometimes I think, if only all people in the world knew about the opportunity to win 1 BTC while risking absolutely nothing, how many participants would be there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 16, 2020, 11:46:38 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on July 16, 2020, 02:47:19 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win. Since we have some winners for the 5/7 or 6/7, hopefully they can share how about their winning from the freebet. Whether they need to wager it xx time first before they can withdraw the winning from the freebet or not.

Whoops! General terms and conditions apply? What does this means exactly? Doest it mean indeed there's string attached 😁

Sounds like unclear. Fj should refer to a certain concrete terms or else simply write a bold one that says you can withdraw it anytime immediately without any requirement.
Is this the classic fj that often bring ambiguous inexplicit puzzling rules & statements 😄
Pretty often I found this here .

Quote from: buwaytress on July 17, 2020, 02:04:59 AM

You've been playing and don't know? Haha, no there aren't any strings attached, it's been confirmed in the past. 1 BTC all yours. I've won the freebet and the winnings were all mine to withdraw. Unfortunately I managed to find a way to turn my $700+ winnings from freeet into zero when I bet all-in on Champions League on Liverpool. I hope I do withdraw at least 0.5 BTC if I win the big one though!

Good to know that you are vouching for them , did you correctly predicted the 5 out of 7 or 6 out of 7? And get the 7 majestic freebet mate?

The 1 btc prize might be have a different terms , no?

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 16, 2020, 02:47:19 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

You've been playing and don't know? Haha, no there aren't any strings attached, it's been confirmed in the past. 1 BTC all yours. I've won the freebet and the winnings were all mine to withdraw. Unfortunately I managed to find a way to turn my $700+ winnings from freeet into zero when I bet all-in on Champions League on Liverpool. I hope I do withdraw at least 0.5 BTC if I win the big one though!

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 16, 2020, 11:46:38 PM

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win. Since we have some winners for the 5/7 or 6/7, hopefully they can share how about their winning from the freebet. Whether they need to wager it xx time first before they can withdraw the winning from the freebet or not.

Free bets usually don't have any rollover requirement and since nothing was stated in the terms and conditions of the contest(and in the general t&c) I think we can safely assume there's none except for the freebet itself. Clearing 30x-40x would be annoying but it's easier for sportsbook as long as the counted wager isn't reduced and no minimum odds.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 16, 2020, 02:47:19 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

The T&C of the Majestic 7 says "General terms and conditions apply", not really sure which terms and conditions applies for the winning prize of Majestic 7 but I also guess there is no wagering requirement for it. It is just insane if there is 30-40x wagering requirement for such hard thing to win. Since we have some winners for the 5/7 or 6/7, hopefully they can share how about their winning from the freebet. Whether they need to wager it xx time first before they can withdraw the winning from the freebet or not.

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Quote from: Emitdama on July 16, 2020, 02:03:47 PM

@arallmuus
Well, odds are basically like that for everything, not just scorers. For example when you see a regular match and Madrid has 1.2 and opponent has 3.8 or whatever, that doesn't mean that Madrid has a chance to win the game that much, it could be around that much, lower, or higher chance to win.

However since it is football, anything could happen and that means Madrid could lose 10-0 as well, sure it is close to impossible but it is there

I do understand that odds means nothing when we are talking/playing a game with literally nothing to lose . However if it is some sort of promotion that require you to wager or risk specific amount then it is natural for us to check on the odds. Although promotions are meant to be EV- but Some promotions could be EV+ in some circumstances

By calculating the odds, you get better knowledge and understanding of how to works things out to be much more favorable to you

Quote from: Emitdama on July 16, 2020, 02:03:47 PM

we never know the real odds because it is not a provably fair dice game we are talking about, it is human game played with humans that could do well or bad and we will never know.

Provably fair has nothing to do with odds Wink

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

I haven't looked at the rules or TOS, but I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are no such strings attached. Guessing 7/7 goal scorers correctly is an incredible thing by itself. And as we have seen so far, an impossible goal. Connecting that with high wagering requirements seems unrealistic.

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Well, odds are basically like that for everything, not just scorers. For example when you see a regular match and Madrid has 1.2 and opponent has 3.8 or whatever, that doesn't mean that Madrid has a chance to win the game that much, it could be around that much, lower, or higher chance to win.

However since it is football, anything could happen and that means Madrid could lose 10-0 as well, sure it is close to impossible but it is there, we never know the real odds because it is not a provably fair dice game we are talking about, it is human game played with humans that could do well or bad and we will never know.

But, the odds are given based on how much people bet on the teams, sportsbooks basically try to create a "rake" system between people who wager on one team versus wager on other team so that they do not lose money.

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My picks @Trofo and @BitcoinGirl.Club if we have no bad luck then surely we are going to win prize this week because I just check we have five same picks and just 2 are not matching so hopefully we will able to have prize and end of this season because now its very long time I am living here without any free bet from gambling sites. Cheesy

Looks like we all had bad luck with Liverpool, unless we chose Mane, which I know I didn't haha even though he seems to be an obvious choice these days!

Anyway tokeweed yes I think we would love to play any type of "free" game but I don't know UFC much at all so I would be making blind picks. Football is way more popular and we know all the teams well.

When we have competitions like this and big money is coming then every one can do some search and have good knowledge of any sport without any serious trouble as its really fun for many and extra money is also coming I personally have many competitions and some good prizes as well I will also join if FJ going to start any new competition.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on July 14, 2020, 01:37:01 PM

My picks @Trofo and @BitcoinGirl.Club if we have no bad luck then surely we are going to win prize this week because I just check we have five same picks and just 2 are not matching so hopefully we will able to have prize and end of this season because now its very long time I am living here without any free bet from gambling sites. Cheesy

Looks like we all had bad luck with Liverpool, unless we chose Mane, which I know I didn't haha even though he seems to be an obvious choice these days!

Anyway tokeweed yes I think we would love to play any type of "free" game but I don't know UFC much at all so I would be making blind picks. Football is way more popular and we know all the teams well.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 15, 2020, 03:12:17 AM

The thing is that in reality it's never 54% or even 33.3% for someone to score, it is much lower than that, always. Those odds we can see on various betting sites do not represent real odds. Rather they("odds") reflect how many bettors, or what part of bettors, put their hopes on this or that player. (Actually, it's about how much money is placed on this or that player). So, if 60% of the pool's money is placed on, say, Tammy Abraham, no way it means he has those chances to score.

Now that you mention this, I kinda realized that the odds in betting site will significantly decrease sometimes if there are alot of people that choose to wager on that bet. There isnt any way to calculate the exact odds or anything close to the exact odds However if FJ offer 1 btc to hit 7/7 for free to anyone without any string attached, If anything it would be less than 0.00001 % Tongue

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I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

Regarding the odds, I think you are about right with your 0.00001 % estimation.

This is good question hopefully FJ team will give official reply about this because for 5 and 6 we have free bet which need only win for withdraw but for 7/7 they will give 1 BTC in balance or this could free bet I am also not sure about this.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 16, 2020, 03:04:45 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 15, 2020, 06:31:23 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 15, 2020, 03:12:17 AM

The thing is that in reality it's never 54% or even 33.3% for someone to score, it is much lower than that, always. Those odds we can see on various betting sites do not represent real odds. Rather they("odds") reflect how many bettors, or what part of bettors, put their hopes on this or that player. (Actually, it's about how much money is placed on this or that player). So, if 60% of the pool's money is placed on, say, Tammy Abraham, no way it means he has those chances to score.

Now that you mention this, I kinda realized that the odds in betting site will significantly decrease sometimes if there are alot of people that choose to wager on that bet. There isnt any way to calculate the exact odds or anything close to the exact odds However if FJ offer 1 btc to hit 7/7 for free to anyone without any string attached, If anything it would be less than 0.00001 % Tongue

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I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

Regarding the odds, I think you are about right with your 0.00001 % estimation.

Im not sure about this unless someone who actually hit 7/7 could testify about this. But there isnt any wager requirement in their terms and conditions. It just says that whoever hit 7/7 will receive the grand prize of 1 btc, if more than 1 people hit 7/7 then they would share the prize equally

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 15, 2020, 11:55:11 AM

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What I had in mind wouldn't be as simple as like picking a winner tho. Maybe something like picking a winner and which round across all matches of the event.

That would be harder than guessing the goalscorer for the current Majestic 7. Each UFC has 5 rounds and some match may not end with TKO in 5 rounds but instead it goes to judge decision

so it would be 6 rounds in total, The odds for both that would be 1/2*1/6 = 1/12

1/12^7 would be somewhere around 0.0000027 % chance to hit 7/7 Tongue

P.S : My calculation could be wrong so feel free to correct it

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Quote from: Trofo on July 15, 2020, 09:37:23 AM

Probably if it is free, since I already have the account I would try to copy some info from you guys. No reason to not give it a try. However, I would not place any bet on UFC or related promo since I know absolutely nothing about the sport or have any interest in watching it.

On the other hand, if they made Majestic 7 like paying promo instead of free one I would still play it. Especially if we were able to chose the 7 games instead of them.

Same here. I don't bet on things I don't know about, at least, I know I did bet on some esports games, but even so, it was on football teams I at least thought I knew about haha.

I'd play Majestic Seven even with money, for sure. As long as it's like Multi Master in SB (about $1 a try for something virtually impossible to win!).

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 15, 2020, 06:31:23 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 15, 2020, 03:12:17 AM

The thing is that in reality it's never 54% or even 33.3% for someone to score, it is much lower than that, always. Those odds we can see on various betting sites do not represent real odds. Rather they("odds") reflect how many bettors, or what part of bettors, put their hopes on this or that player. (Actually, it's about how much money is placed on this or that player). So, if 60% of the pool's money is placed on, say, Tammy Abraham, no way it means he has those chances to score.

Now that you mention this, I kinda realized that the odds in betting site will significantly decrease sometimes if there are alot of people that choose to wager on that bet. There isnt any way to calculate the exact odds or anything close to the exact odds However if FJ offer 1 btc to hit 7/7 for free to anyone without any string attached, If anything it would be less than 0.00001 % Tongue

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I'm wondering if there are no strings attached indeed? Shouldn't we wager 30x or even 40x of that prize first before we can withdraw?

Regarding the odds, I think you are about right with your 0.00001 % estimation.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 15, 2020, 11:55:11 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 15, 2020, 08:39:15 AM

Just wondering since the Majestic 7 has become so popular around the gambling section... Would you guys also play a UFC promo if FJ made it?

As long as it is free, people will still go for it. Although this is just a random thought of yours but it is not really feasible idea in FJ Point of view to provide Majestic 7 of UFC

The reason for that would be, there will always be one winner out of two fighters . Well it could end in a draw as well but it is a very rare occurence

So assuming that there will always be one winner, that would be 50% chance to pick each one so, 0.5^7 would be 0.0078125 ~ 0.78% chance to hit 7/7 Tongue

Perhaps M15 would be much more appropriate for a UFC fight hence the chance would be somewhere around 0.003 %

Im quite happy with the current M7 for the premier league plus this is one of the most anticipated football league but anything other than football will probably not attract more people Tongue

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What I had in mind wouldn't be as simple as like picking a winner tho. Maybe something like picking a winner and which round across all matches of the event.

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^ Yeah, I have tried so many times as well, it is a free thing that gives out 1 bitcoin in the end, there is no way that anyone could complain about it the way it is. There was a moment during the first half ending and second half of the season starting where there were some transfers and the rosters weren't updated and that is the only legitimate feedback that I have seen that should have been done, but that was done like in a week after that so it wasn't a big deal for a long time neither.

This is by far the best promotion in any of the sportsbooks I have seen. Have you seen anywhere else a competition that is giving out 1 bitcoin in return of zero? Everywhere else you get stuff that requires you to spend some money to join, but here it is free and you can do it every single week.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 15, 2020, 08:39:15 AM

Just wondering since the Majestic 7 has become so popular around the gambling section... Would you guys also play a UFC promo if FJ made it?

As long as it is free, people will still go for it. Although this is just a random thought of yours but it is not really feasible idea in FJ Point of view to provide Majestic 7 of UFC

The reason for that would be, there will always be one winner out of two fighters . Well it could end in a draw as well but it is a very rare occurence

So assuming that there will always be one winner, that would be 50% chance to pick each one so, 0.5^7 would be 0.0078125 ~ 0.78% chance to hit 7/7 Tongue

Perhaps M15 would be much more appropriate for a UFC fight hence the chance would be somewhere around 0.003 %

Im quite happy with the current M7 for the premier league plus this is one of the most anticipated football league but anything other than football will probably not attract more people Tongue

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 15, 2020, 08:39:15 AM

Just wondering since the Majestic 7 has become so popular around the gambling section... Would you guys also play a UFC promo if FJ made it?

Probably if it is free, since I already have the account I would try to copy some info from you guys. No reason to not give it a try. However, I would not place any bet on UFC or related promo since I know absolutely nothing about the sport or have any interest in watching it.

On the other hand, if they made Majestic 7 like paying promo instead of free one I would still play it. Especially if we were able to chose the 7 games instead of them.

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Just wondering since the Majestic 7 has become so popular around the gambling section... Would you guys also play a UFC promo if FJ made it?

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It looks like as soon as the new match of the week plays, the next week is available to select for MajSev.

So for this new week, I've picked very, very predictable choices except for the Newcastle match where I'm going for Sean Longstaff. Also, Antonio is very tasty as he's on form, but I wonder if a penalty for Mark Noble is due soon?

@Trofo yeah I also used odds from bookies to calculate odds for winning M7 and you and I arrived at closer percentage points than arallmuus haha.

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