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Quote from: buwaytress on July 07, 2020, 01:21:51 PM

@arallmuus and fullhdpixel: Well, didn't intend to get into that kind of depth about Majestic Seven but hey, now FJ sees just how popular it is, maybe they'll keep it for next season! The Invincible format too, now I really want to see how that turns out =)

I did win some free bets with Majestic 7 and was close to winning many more on several occasions but that 1 BTC looks impossible for me Grin

The Invincibles game looks awesome. Of course, it's impossible to win the grand price but one can easily stack up from awesome free bets throughout the tournament. Can't wait for the Champion's League resume soon

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When my parlay today settles, I'll have earned my fourth 4+1 freebet at FJ. So far, putting all freebets on parlays of at least 7/1, so hitting 1 out of 3 so far is giving me great value back.

Tried just the one 7-leg parlay to see if it's worth the 100% insurance but not really my style at the end of the day, it seems.

FJ: Now that Bundesliga's wrapped up, will we be able to replace leagues? Maybe at least all of the European leagues or Big 4 countries but including all lower leagues? Or reduce the min requirements? It's going to get harder and harder to place qualifying bets as the games get fewer =) Just asking;)

@arallmuus and fullhdpixel: Well, didn't intend to get into that kind of depth about Majestic Seven but hey, now FJ sees just how popular it is, maybe they'll keep it for next season! The Invincible format too, now I really want to see how that turns out =)

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 04, 2020, 04:37:19 PM

Anyway, I don't think even 100 people are really playing. Judging from the ones who actively post here, about 10 or so actively play, maybe another 90 who don't post here but who have no idea how to pick so pick anyone. It's like those free Survivor games for NFL. OR free draft picks. I can't be arsed to learn the game so I either don't play them or I make random picks that I'm sure people who know the game would laugh at.

In any case, could we just agree that its quite difficult to get it right but since we do not know how many people play, we can't estimate how many times it should have been won?

I mean sure there are variance like you said, the people who got 1/100 thing on first try and on 5000th try both exists but at least we could say that if there are 100 people that tries a week has a lower chance than 100000 people trying per week. That is just statistics. And all of this started out with a discussion about how "wonder how many people play because one person at least should have won already even if its a low chance to hit if there are enough chances given to a lot of people" and that has absolutely no foul idea in there.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 06, 2020, 08:12:26 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2020, 05:26:02 PM

That odds was calculated with assumption that every player has the same chance to score. Of course the chance for Vardy and Maddison from Leicester to score is obviously different.

Which is why I used bookie odds on any time goal scorer to count the odds of winning 7/7 with all the likeliest scorers. But this is football, and the likely scorers don't always score;)

To get near accurate result you should perhaps include atleast 3-4 top scorer odds from both club and count everything in accordance to that. That should give you near accurate odds . But It should definitely less than 0.0001 % chance to strike all 7 .

Anyway whatever the odds are, as long as it is free then it is not a problem. Cant really expect alot from free stuff but eventually someone will get it right Tongue

Quote from: buwaytress on July 06, 2020, 08:12:26 AM

For example, I correctly picked Southampton to beat City (it was 9/1 odds) but I'd never have picked Che Adams to score! Even if I don't pick Ings (the most obvious), I'd have gone for Shane Long or Prowse any day over Adams! Or last night Liverpool's 2-0 win. Surely Salah or Bobby over Curtis Jones, right>

I picked City to get a cleansheet and oh well they dissapoint me and made me lose my parlay Tongue

. I posted my betslip on the discussion thread though

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2020, 05:26:02 PM

Of course 0.001% doesnt sound too bad if you compare it with 0.00001% . Ever since the majestic 7 has started , I havent see anyone that brag he got 5/7 but perhaps someone actually got it (or perhaps in the past with reference to you post )

Um yeah, a few posts above yours is someone saying he got 5/7, and yeah there was a time many of us got 5/7. So it's obviously reachable! IIRC it was during a time they posted promos where you only needed to get 3/7 to get a small freebet, and they picked all the matches where the topscorers were playing.

Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2020, 05:26:02 PM

That odds was calculated with assumption that every player has the same chance to score. Of course the chance for Vardy and Maddison from Leicester to score is obviously different.

Which is why I used bookie odds on any time goal scorer to count the odds of winning 7/7 with all the likeliest scorers. But this is football, and the likely scorers don't always score;)

For example, I correctly picked Southampton to beat City (it was 9/1 odds) but I'd never have picked Che Adams to score! Even if I don't pick Ings (the most obvious), I'd have gone for Shane Long or Prowse any day over Adams! Or last night Liverpool's 2-0 win. Surely Salah or Bobby over Curtis Jones, right?

Hope we see M7 return next season though. Best distraction of the lot for EPL Wink

Invincibles isn't bad too of course, problem is Liverpool got KO'd so I obviously follow with less enthusiasm haha.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 06, 2020, 03:13:47 AM

I've posted about this issue few times in the past and I think it is due to my dinamic IP. Once the IP changed because of unstable connection or something else then I'll be logged out even if I'm playing on Fortunejack. I have no ideas on how to fix this but in the past few months, I did not face this problem anymore.

thank you, I think it's true that this happened because of a dynamic IP issue. Because i see a warning message from cloudflare two times but I didn't pay attention to my ip at that time . maybe I will try again using VPN to make sure whether the account will still be logged out automatically or not.

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Quote from: masulum on July 06, 2020, 02:44:50 AM

I want to ask if there is a session limit on the account that we open, because every time I log in, It only takes less than 5 minutes to logged out automatically. even though I'm active on the page or I'm not idle, my account still logs out. Anyone who has the same problem, please tell me how to fix it.

I've posted about this issue few times in the past and I think it is due to my dinamic IP. Once the IP changed because of unstable connection or something else then I'll be logged out even if I'm playing on Fortunejack. I have no ideas on how to fix this but in the past few months, I did not face this problem anymore.

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hmph..

I want to ask if there is a session limit on the account that we open, because every time I log in, It only takes less than 5 minutes to logged out automatically. even though I'm active on the page or I'm not idle, my account still logs out. Anyone who has the same problem, please tell me how to fix it.

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i was lucky i got 2 out of 7 lol. yea its all messed up because of coronovirus delay it was already hard enough before lol. But now you never know who might score

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 05, 2020, 01:20:02 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 03, 2020, 05:30:18 PM

~snip~

The odds are semi-correct, obviously when you put "all players have equal chances" and remove certain players like defense or defensive midfielder you are both shooting yourself in the leg with the calculation of "all players have equal chances" but also you are removing players at the same time.

So, all I was saying is that strikers have a higher chance, so when you play on the player that scored once every 2 games on average, that should have a higher chance to hit than having a midfielder to score, doesn't mean it is always like that, a midfielder could have a hat trick while striker has zero in any game depending on luck, but I was talking about the luck and the statistics of how that could happen.

You should read my entire post before jumping on your own conclusion to what I wrote. This is the main point of my post of which you argued

Quote from: arallmuus on July 03, 2020, 05:30:18 PM

Obviously the odds should be significantly lower because all player have equal chance to score except goalkeeper

If you would like to include all players including the goalkeepers then just go with 1/22^7 .

Also I did wrote this

Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2020, 05:26:02 PM

That odds was calculated with assumption that every player has the same chance to score.

This post is actually about every 5 other player on each team that I didnt rule out.

Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 05, 2020, 01:20:02 PM

Don't we know that VVD scores time to time, look at ramos in La Liga dude is one of the top scorers.

Im quite aware of what I wrote and this is majestic 7 for premier league not La Liga. Even if it is majestic 7 for La Liga , I would still choose Benzema over Ramos

Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 05, 2020, 01:20:02 PM

depending on luck, but I was talking about the luck and the statistics of how that could happen.

Luck/being lucky is part of the variances in a gamble. Someone could win 1 in 100 chances game with only 1 time of playing while someone could win it after 5000 tries, thats variances.

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Hi FJ, some bookies started laying lines for Usman vs Masvidal for UFC 251. Something you guys might wanna look into. Wink

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 03, 2020, 05:30:18 PM

~snip~

The odds are semi-correct, obviously when you put "all players have equal chances" and remove certain players like defense or defensive midfielder you are both shooting yourself in the leg with the calculation of "all players have equal chances" but also you are removing players at the same time. Don't we know that VVD scores time to time, look at ramos in La Liga dude is one of the top scorers.

So, all I was saying is that strikers have a higher chance, so when you play on the player that scored once every 2 games on average, that should have a higher chance to hit than having a midfielder to score, doesn't mean it is always like that, a midfielder could have a hat trick while striker has zero in any game depending on luck, but I was talking about the luck and the statistics of how that could happen.

Quote from: buwaytress on July 04, 2020, 04:37:19 PM

Sorry if you thought I was picking a fight, it seems my attempts at humour on this forum are often miscontrued as antagonist!

Never need to be sorry mate! Text is something quite hard to convey the sense of humor, I am sure you are normally funny and it was me who didn't get it via texts.

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Quote from: slaman29 on July 05, 2020, 05:51:57 AM

Damn Majestic Seven! I only got 1 right, so now even if I get all 3 correct for today I can only get 4/7, so already out before the games begin:)

Anyway, wish I had time to look for bugs on the new site but because my loading is always slow, I'd probably find bugs that only happen cause I load things too slowly. good luck finding them guys;)

@slaman29 I too got only two right but it’s fine, and further don’t be upset as there’s yet time for this season to end, so keep on trying and you may just win it. Also what bugs are you talking about, as I have visited the site few times and it’s loaded fine for me, however I haven’t tested it extensively so if you could share with me what these bugs are I’ll try and test them.

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Damn Majestic Seven! I only got 1 right, so now even if I get all 3 correct for today I can only get 4/7, so already out before the games begin:)

Anyway, wish I had time to look for bugs on the new site but because my loading is always slow, I'd probably find bugs that only happen cause I load things too slowly. good luck finding them guys;)

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 04, 2020, 04:37:19 PM

@arallmuus: I just used odds for a player to score as given by bookies in the "To score any time" markets. Those are the odds I randomly plucked out, and I'm not researching so just my own take on the odds. I'm sure my version is more accurate than yours though=p Remember the week many of us got 5 and 6 correct picks? Using your calculations 5/7 is 0.001% which also doesn't then sound right when so many of us got it!

Of course 0.001% doesnt sound too bad if you compare it with 0.00001% . Ever since the majestic 7 has started , I havent see anyone that brag he got 5/7 but perhaps someone actually got it (or perhaps in the past with reference to you post )

Quote from: buwaytress on June 25, 2020, 02:50:50 PM

It's not easy for 7/7 at all but there was that one time many of us got 4 and 5 when Salah, Kane, Vardy all netted. Majestic 7's really cool I have to admit.

That odds was calculated with assumption that every player has the same chance to score. Of course the chance for Vardy and Maddison from Leicester to score is obviously different

So if you pick all top scorer on each team, your chance to win is significantly higher compared with if you pick up random players . Obviously there isnt really a good way to calculate the chances for people to get 7/7 but my calculation should seems about right at average Tongue

I ruled out 6 players out of 11 and left each team with only 5 players to select. Each team has around 2-3 goal scorer in average. So yeah, its kinda hard to calculate

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@fullpixelhd Sorry if you thought I was picking a fight, it seems my attempts at humour on this forum are often miscontrued as antagonist!

Anyway, I don't think even 100 people are really playing. Judging from the ones who actively post here, about 10 or so actively play, maybe another 90 who don't post here but who have no idea how to pick so pick anyone. It's like those free Survivor games for NFL. OR free draft picks. I can't be arsed to learn the game so I either don't play them or I make random picks that I'm sure people who know the game would laugh at.

@arallmuus: I just used odds for a player to score as given by bookies in the "To score any time" markets. Those are the odds I randomly plucked out, and I'm not researching so just my own take on the odds. I'm sure my version is more accurate than yours though=p Remember the week many of us got 5 and 6 correct picks? Using your calculations 5/7 is 0.001% which also doesn't then sound right when so many of us got it!

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And Gilbert Burns is out of UFC 251 due to covid. Please cancel all bets and remove him from the roster. Thanks.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 03, 2020, 01:07:36 PM

I have no idea how many people get to try it each week, maybe it is 10 or maybe it is 10000 I have no idea, which is why I said if there was plenty of people that play it, there would be at least one person who gets it.

You are kinda wrong in there 1 in 100 chance doesnt means it will shows up every 100 chances and also it doesnt means it shows up 1 times everytime there are 100 or 1000 people that take chance on that. It stays 1 in 100 for everyone

Get what I mean?

Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 03, 2020, 01:07:36 PM

I would have assumed it is a lot to actually get someone to figure it out eventually. Or maybe there is a winner and we just don't know, who knows?

Perhaps someone did but FJ doesnt announce it to the public or whatever other reason. You should know that not everyone has bitcointalk account to brag once they win.

The odds was kinda wrong btw. Assuming that every player has equal chance to score and if you have to pick 1 player from 1 match

Lets say we ruled out few players from each team so 1 goalkeeper and 4 defenders and 1 defensive midfielder will be ruled out because they have lower chance to score

so that left us with 1/10 chance

and also you have to win 7 times in a row so the odds will be 1/10^7 = 0.00001 % chance Tongue

Obviously the odds should be significantly lower because all player have equal chance to score except goalkeeper

Idk if my math is correct, its been a while for me Cheesy

. Feel free to correct me up

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 01, 2020, 07:17:36 AM

The topic's been discussed to death, to be honest. The bookies and statisticians and odd makers are professionals at their jobs, so they've obviously done the math. And even if we take the most prolific strikers of all the teams, and use the goalscorer any time odds and multiply it by 7, then you can understand it's a longshot. Salah and Kane at their peak will have about 1.8 odds. So even if both Kane and Salah are in picks, you then have others with 2.5 and more.

So let's just assume we get the best: 1.8*1.8*2.5*2.5*2.5*2.5*2.5, then each of us has 316/1 chance to hit it all.

And I bet you, we don't go for the best picks in each team;) I like to mix it up a bit too.

You are confusing me buwaytrees Cheesy

. First you say it has been talked to death, and then you come out and tell me that there is 316/1 to chance to hit it. Now if you do not mind I would like to respond to that as well. What I was trying to say that, even a 9999x hit happens in dice games, we have seen them right? So, when it is 316 to one, you think someone would get it.

I have no idea how many people get to try it each week, maybe it is 10 or maybe it is 10000 I have no idea, which is why I said if there was plenty of people that play it, there would be at least one person who gets it.

For something that is 316 to 1 with over a thousand people playing for over 40 weeks (last season's end was in there as well I think) I would have assumed it is a lot to actually get someone to figure it out eventually. Or maybe there is a winner and we just don't know, who knows?

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