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June 04, 2015, 05:55:58 PM
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June 04, 2015, 09:37:46 AM
When you pick up the first "1" the sequence is waiting a "2".
If you roll another "1" or other than "2" the sequence stopped and restart with the next roll.
That's why every sequence that i writed doesn't win the jackpot.
And that's why the odds is not 1 every 10^6.
June 04, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
I think the first form (1-1-2-3-4-5-6) will not win the jackpot..
As I experienced, when I got 1-1-2-x-x the second "1" was not remarked as a jackpot starting number. http://prntscr.com/7cx8dh
It means that double "1" in a row is not counted as a jackpot. So, it should be at least 1-2-x-x-x to win the jackpot.
But I see your picture is only 1-1, not 1-1-2, of course the second 1 is not counted, but if you get 1-1-2, should second 1 be OK?
Just my opinion, what I can read from the rule is to get 1-2-3-4-5-6 in a row, so 1-1-2-3-4-5-6 is still 1-2-3-4-5-6 in a row.
Maybe we need admin explain here.
yeah I know my picture is only 1-1 but as far as I remember I've got this kind of form 1-1-2-x-x but it was not counted.
I'll try it again, I will take the screenshot when I realize it.
hope I was wrong about it
Edit : but logically when this form 1-1-x-x is counted to the jackpot, the second "1" should be in "orange" too whatever rolled number after the second "1"
Or the second "1" will be automatically changed to "orange" when we get number 2 after it?
P.S yes, we need admin to explain more about it..
June 04, 2015, 08:48:15 AM
I think the first form (1-1-2-3-4-5-6) will not win the jackpot..
As I experienced, when I got 1-1-2-x-x the second "1" was not remarked as a jackpot starting number. http://prntscr.com/7cx8dh
It means that double "1" in a row is not counted as a jackpot. So, it should be at least 1-2-x-x-x to win the jackpot.
But I see your picture is only 1-1, not 1-1-2, of course the second 1 is not counted, but if you get 1-1-2, should second 1 be OK?
Just my opinion, what I can read from the rule is to get 1-2-3-4-5-6 in a row, so 1-1-2-3-4-5-6 is still 1-2-3-4-5-6 in a row.
Maybe we need admin explain here.
June 04, 2015, 12:55:41 AM
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Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
I think that's no correct.
The odds is not 10^6... because everytime you pick up a "1" you must pick up a "2"... otherwise you restart.
For example, in those case you pick up the "1 to 6" but you don't win the jackpot:
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
probably... the correct odds is from (10^6) to 2*(10^6)
I don't think so, it is only one combination to win jackpot, you need to roll 1-2-3-4-5-6, don't care about other rolls before or after your get 1-2-3-4-5-6, so
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
can also win the jackpot, should be 10^6
I think the first form (1-1-2-3-4-5-6) will not win the jackpot..
As I experienced, when I got 1-1-2-x-x the second "1" was not remarked as a jackpot starting number. http://prntscr.com/7cx8dh
It means that double "1" in a row is not counted as a jackpot. So, it should be at least 1-2-x-x-x to win the jackpot.
June 03, 2015, 09:47:25 PM
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Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
I think that's no correct.
The odds is not 10^6... because everytime you pick up a "1" you must pick up a "2"... otherwise you restart.
For example, in those case you pick up the "1 to 6" but you don't win the jackpot:
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
probably... the correct odds is from (10^6) to 2*(10^6)
I don't think so, it is only one combination to win jackpot, you need to roll 1-2-3-4-5-6, don't care about other rolls before or after your get 1-2-3-4-5-6, so
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
can also win the jackpot, should be 10^6
It only matters when you are getting the correct serie for the jackpot and not before
June 03, 2015, 09:43:21 PM
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Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
I think that's no correct.
The odds is not 10^6... because everytime you pick up a "1" you must pick up a "2"... otherwise you restart.
For example, in those case you pick up the "1 to 6" but you don't win the jackpot:
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
probably... the correct odds is from (10^6) to 2*(10^6)
I don't think so, it is only one combination to win jackpot, you need to roll 1-2-3-4-5-6, don't care about other rolls before or after your get 1-2-3-4-5-6, so
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
can also win the jackpot, should be 10^6
June 03, 2015, 05:52:08 PM
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Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
I think that's no correct.
The odds is not 10^6... because everytime you pick up a "1" you must pick up a "2"... otherwise you restart.
For example, in those case you pick up the "1 to 6" but you don't win the jackpot:
1-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5-6
1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-6
probably... the correct odds is from (10^6) to 2*(10^6)
June 02, 2015, 08:48:26 AM
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June 02, 2015, 08:01:12 AM
June 02, 2015, 02:54:46 AM
So... i made a withdrawal today. My casino account page shows the withdrawal as complete. The withdrawal page still has my wallet address populated in the appropriate field, which I have twice confirmed as accurate. And the wirhdrawal amount has been deducted from my casino account. However, they do not offer a transaction i.d., the funds have not arrived to my wallet, nor do they show as pending, and the blockchain has no record of them sending it at all. Also, zero response to support requests or to messages on this forum. This was several hours ago, as I do realize the time difference. Zero response to support requests from 7 hours ago makes me feel enough uncertainty with this site to reach out and possibly warn others.
If you click on your withdraw transaction ID, you are directed straight to your coin explorer, opening up withdraw transaction where you can see status whether it is confirmed or not.
There was a minor problem with the DOGE coin server, that was already fixed. The amount was credited back to your account you can withdraw it straight away, accept our apologies for the delay.
Thank you for resolving and explaining the issue, which has been fixed. However, the withdrawal transaction id on your site was not clickable on the first withdrawal which was unsuccessful but, displayed as complete on your site. So, while I understand you are explaining how to view the blockchain transaction for a withdrawal, it was not feasible for or relevant to the withdrawal of concern. The new, successful withdrawal does have a clickable tx id.
thanks
June 02, 2015, 01:55:59 AM
So... i made a withdrawal today. My casino account page shows the withdrawal as complete. The withdrawal page still has my wallet address populated in the appropriate field, which I have twice confirmed as accurate. And the wirhdrawal amount has been deducted from my casino account. However, they do not offer a transaction i.d., the funds have not arrived to my wallet, nor do they show as pending, and the blockchain has no record of them sending it at all. Also, zero response to support requests or to messages on this forum. This was several hours ago, as I do realize the time difference. Zero response to support requests from 7 hours ago makes me feel enough uncertainty with this site to reach out and possibly warn others.
If you click on your withdraw transaction ID, you are directed straight to your coin explorer, opening up withdraw transaction where you can see status whether it is confirmed or not.
There was a minor problem with the DOGE coin server, that was already fixed. The amount was credited back to your account you can withdraw it straight away, accept our apologies for the delay.
June 02, 2015, 12:11:14 AM
So... i made a withdrawal today. My casino account page shows the withdrawal as complete. The withdrawal page still has my wallet address populated in the appropriate field, which I have twice confirmed as accurate. And the withdrawal amount has been deducted from my casino account. However, they do not offer a transaction i.d., the funds have not arrived to my wallet, nor do they show as pending, and the blockchain has no record of them sending it at all. Also, zero response to support requests or to messages on this forum. This was several hours ago, as I do realize the time difference. Zero response to support requests from 7 hours ago makes me feel enough uncertainty with this site to reach out and possibly warn others.
You will get paid I am sure, they have paid big payouts and I think you should be more patient, write a post here is better than a ticket, and you can also talk to admin in the chatting room, I heard FJ is a Russian casino, so time difference is an issue. Just be patient.
Thanks for the advice. I felt like I had given the situation several hours, and attempted all avenues of communication, including chat. I'm sure they have a great history of completing transactions successfully. My concern is when I see their site telling me the transaction is complete, but it's not, and no other information. Organizations that "go away" while causing losses to it's customers, usually have a good history until the day they don't. But, again, I appreciate the advice and reassurance. Just explaining my reasoning to try and not sound too alarmist or reactionary.
June 01, 2015, 09:57:50 PM
So... i made a withdrawal today. My casino account page shows the withdrawal as complete. The withdrawal page still has my wallet address populated in the appropriate field, which I have twice confirmed as accurate. And the wirhdrawal amount has been deducted from my casino account. However, they do not offer a transaction i.d., the funds have not arrived to my wallet, nor do they show as pending, and the blockchain has no record of them sending it at all. Also, zero response to support requests or to messages on this forum. This was several hours ago, as I do realize the time difference. Zero response to support requests from 7 hours ago makes me feel enough uncertainty with this site to reach out and possibly warn others.
You will get paid I am sure, they have paid big payouts and I think you should be more patient, write a post here is better than a ticket, and you can also talk to admin in the chatting room, I heard FJ is a Russian casino, so time difference is an issue. Just be patient.
June 01, 2015, 07:57:32 PM
So... i made a withdrawal today. My casino account page shows the withdrawal as complete. The withdrawal page still has my wallet address populated in the appropriate field, which I have twice confirmed as accurate. And the wirhdrawal amount has been deducted from my casino account. However, they do not offer a transaction i.d., the funds have not arrived to my wallet, nor do they show as pending, and the blockchain has no record of them sending it at all. Also, zero response to support requests or to messages on this forum. This was several hours ago, as I do realize the time difference. Zero response to support requests from 7 hours ago makes me feel enough uncertainty with this site to reach out and possibly warn others.
June 01, 2015, 05:43:11 PM
Seems like the chances of winning the jackpots on games has got alot tougher.... keno is one i noticed most only getting 1 chance every 200 spins??
June 01, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
Yup. but it's not safe to assume JP will always stay above 0.05. If too many people are aware of the advantage, and you have say 20 players competing, then JP could easily go below that.
I think it's fair to say it'll quite often be above 0.05, that isn't a high amount and there isn't a particularly high chance to get the JP.
And as you mentioned:
The problem is it can take a long time to break even or get in profit position. Short term results is based purely on luck. If you want to play this way, you have to have enough funds, as placing 1 mil bets won't give you 100% chance of winning, it could as well take 10-20 mils bets.
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jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually
The problem is it can take a long time to break even or get in profit position. Short term results is based purely on luck. If you want to play this way, you have to have enough funds, as placing 1 mil bets won't give you 100% chance of winning, it could as well take 10-20 mils bets.
And my entire point is that with 1 uBTC bets you're going to be going long-term. Unless you somehow are losing a ridiculously high amount of bets, we're talking hundreds of thousands over your wins - which is so, so, so unlikely - you're not going to be very bad off because of variance.
Just as a note, you would need a hundred thousand losses more than wins with these bets...to lose $25.
June 01, 2015, 03:59:04 PM
Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
Yup. but it's not safe to assume JP will always stay above 0.05. If too many people are aware of the advantage, and you have say 20 players competing, then JP could easily go below that.
And as you mentioned:
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jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually
The problem is it can take a long time to break even or get in profit position. Short term results is based purely on luck. If you want to play this way, you have to have enough funds, as placing 1 mil bets won't give you 100% chance of winning, it could as well take 10-20 mils bets.
June 01, 2015, 02:34:23 PM
Hmm, that's interesting. Seems like it'd be abused by people betting 0.000001 BTC (that's 1 uBTC) though, 20% of ~1.7 BTC (~0.34 BTC) is still quite nice pay for such low risk. A bot might even make that quite profitable. Hopefully people don't decide to abuse that else FJ will probably have to make micro-bets ineligible.
It won't be profitable to run a bot. Max bet is 1 BTC, so that's enough for only 20 steps of martingale. The highest noted losing streak at 2x payout on Just-Dice was over 30, so 20 losses in a row is pretty realistic.
Ps. mattyd403 is the first dice jackpot winner, he grabbed BTC0.858748018 (50%). Congrats!
Why would you martingale when going for the jackpot with such a low bet? There's no reason at all to martingale in an attempt to avoid a loss when betting 1 uBTC simply to win a jackpot. It doesn't make mathematical sense.
My bad, somehow automatically assumed (without checking) that placing 'normal' bets will result in house edge profit > jackpot.
With 1 in a million chance of hitting jackpot that's not the case. Although things are getting more complicated when you know that placing 1 million, or even 10 million bets won't guarantee you win and that there are multiple players competing with you.
Well, if the jackpot is 0.05 BTC constantly and you constantly bet 1 uBTC, your variance/profit will always tend towards zero. Any jackpot above 0.05 BTC will result in your profit over time eventually going positive and rising proportionally to how high the jackpot is above 0.05 BTC.
June 01, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
Hmm, that's interesting. Seems like it'd be abused by people betting 0.000001 BTC (that's 1 uBTC) though, 20% of ~1.7 BTC (~0.34 BTC) is still quite nice pay for such low risk. A bot might even make that quite profitable. Hopefully people don't decide to abuse that else FJ will probably have to make micro-bets ineligible.
It won't be profitable to run a bot. Max bet is 1 BTC, so that's enough for only 20 steps of martingale. The highest noted losing streak at 2x payout on Just-Dice was over 30, so 20 losses in a row is pretty realistic.
Ps. mattyd403 is the first dice jackpot winner, he grabbed BTC0.858748018 (50%). Congrats!
Why would you martingale when going for the jackpot with such a low bet? There's no reason at all to martingale in an attempt to avoid a loss when betting 1 uBTC simply to win a jackpot. It doesn't make mathematical sense.
My bad, somehow automatically assumed (without checking) that placing 'normal' bets will result in house edge profit > jackpot.
With 1 in a million chance of hitting jackpot that's not the case. Although things are getting more complicated when you know that placing 1 million, or even 10 million bets won't guarantee you win and that there are multiple players competing with you.
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