France declares war on the cryptocurrencies - page 9.

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Quote from: Carlsen on January 17, 2018, 11:16:18 AM

I think there is a big difference between regulations and war.
I have always been a friend of some regulative measures because they make it more difficult for scammers to use bitcoin for their purposes.
And I think as well that regulations make crypto currencies more accepted in the public opinion.

Regulative measures can make the trust in crypto currencies stronger, and maybe even decline the big swings of the price.

Massively agree. People tend to exaggerate everything heavily. The world looks like black and white to them, they don't see either colors or shades, all 50 of them. Mass media with their yellow journalism and sensationalism are also a contributing factor. And this can be very annoying or even frustrating when people are so myopic and don't look beyond attention-grabbing headlines.

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In my opinion, the negative issue of bitcoin may affect the reduction of bitcoin prices, including French news that declares war on cryptocurrency Bitcoin and altcoin.
The more issues like this, bitcoin prices will continue to decline, let alone the issue or news is really realized,
But we should not panic for now,
bitcoin prices will surely rise slowly in the future.

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Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

I read on news that

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"
Source ( http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/france-declares-war-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-ripple-tough-new-stance-lead-ban-7231339/?ito=cbshare)

Is this having any impact on the downtrend nature of the whole Crypto Currency market today?
Are some investors having second thought about crypto and selling them?

Would like to get some idea about this.

we do not need recognition from them without Bitcoin's acknowledgment still goes, as usual, their problem says Bitcoin is abused for terrorist financing before Bitcoin is created even terrorists have earned their funds with cash..

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Bitcoin become so popular because of the sudden pump in its value last 2017 so it is really not surprising why many countries wants to regulate bitcoin of course governments would like to have the tax for such earnings people can get out of bitcoin especially that the value keeps growing and appreciating. I think because of what other countries are doing today puts impact on bitcoin value that's why it keeps on dropping.

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They just want to have a global regulation and have asked that the G20 experts take a look at it.
But I'm quite sure that once they will have understood how much money they can make from crypto by taxing us, they'll find it interesting and worth allowing it.

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I think there is a big difference between regulations and war.
I have always been a friend of some regulative measures because they make it more difficult for scammers to use bitcoin for their purposes.
And I think as well that regulations make crypto currencies more accepted in the public opinion.

Regulative measures can make the trust in crypto currencies stronger, and maybe even decline the big swings of the price.

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Honestly, I'm not surprised if we see more and more countries trying to regulate crypto, since let's be real, tax evasion is a crime and crypto allows that to be done fairly easily. Financing of terrorism is a dumb excuse, everything can be used for that from weapons to oil...

There are some dumb arguments but the tax evasion one is fair. France has some questionable decisions lately overall.

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Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

I read on news that

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"
Source ( http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/france-declares-war-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-ripple-tough-new-stance-lead-ban-7231339/?ito=cbshare)

Is this having any impact on the downtrend nature of the whole Crypto Currency market today?
Are some investors having second thought about crypto and selling them?

Would like to get some idea about this.

They just pointed out some disadvantage of using bitcoin. Actually even using their currency their paper money, forms of crimes like this can still happen. They are just threatened with bitcoin as it is gain much attention. People are more into investing than saving their money.

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Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"

It seems that the world banking system has declared war on the crypto-currencies, and begins to hang on them all the sins - from tax evasion, to the financing of terrorism.

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Quote from: Shenzou on January 17, 2018, 10:50:08 AM

Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

I read on news that

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"
Source ( http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/france-declares-war-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-ripple-tough-new-stance-lead-ban-7231339/?ito=cbshare)

Is this having any impact on the downtrend nature of the whole Crypto Currency market today?
Are some investors having second thought about crypto and selling them?

Would like to get some idea about this.

It says regulation ot actually banning it, a lot of goverments have woken up and relized the fact that there are a lot of people who are involved in the cryptocurrency industry that are earning millions of dollars without paying taxes, honostly i am suprised that they didn't do this a long time ago when the cryptocurrency was just used by a few people, i think this was the strategy all along for goverments to let the crypto industry to evolve and grow and let the prices go up so that people think that they can get rich from it and than drop the bompb by regulating it and making them pay taxes for it, and we can see that not only the french govermment has came to the decesion of regulating it, many govements have taken severe decisons conserning it, and we can see that that affected the prices real hard.

As you said immediate action of many governments are against the crypto currency investors so it causes huge price fall in crypto currency market.Bitcoin price is falling under $10K and still falling same cases going on with every crypto currency.The total coinmarket value of crypto currency turned $650B into less than $400B maybe it will fall more.
I hope this is weird situation will change soon hopefully or it may affect many investors hardly.

I don't want to sell any of my crypto currency until the condition will get normal or I will lose more money from my life savings.

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Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

I read on news that

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"
Source ( http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/france-declares-war-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-ripple-tough-new-stance-lead-ban-7231339/?ito=cbshare)

Is this having any impact on the downtrend nature of the whole Crypto Currency market today?
Are some investors having second thought about crypto and selling them?

Would like to get some idea about this.

It says regulation ot actually banning it, a lot of goverments have woken up and relized the fact that there are a lot of people who are involved in the cryptocurrency industry that are earning millions of dollars without paying taxes, honostly i am suprised that they didn't do this a long time ago when the cryptocurrency was just used by a few people, i think this was the strategy all along for goverments to let the crypto industry to evolve and grow and let the prices go up so that people think that they can get rich from it and than drop the bompb by regulating it and making them pay taxes for it, and we can see that not only the french govermment has came to the decesion of regulating it, many govements have taken severe decisons conserning it, and we can see that that affected the prices real hard.

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Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

I read on news that

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"
Source ( http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/france-declares-war-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-ripple-tough-new-stance-lead-ban-7231339/?ito=cbshare)

Is this having any impact on the downtrend nature of the whole Crypto Currency market today?
Are some investors having second thought about crypto and selling them?

Would like to get some idea about this.

It doesn't surprised me at all. EU has been very vocal against cryptocurrency since the beginning. I'm sure that there would be more EU countries coming out of and declaring war on crypto's. As far as the effect, it could impact the price at a minimum. There are really a lot of FUD around China and South Korea that really affects the market price significantly.

Quote from: sp01_cardo on January 17, 2018, 10:07:49 AM

Yes, i just read some news that france declare war on cryptocurrencies. Because they say that they are using bitcoins in trading some illegal transactions. And also china banning bitcoin mining. Thats give big effect in all markets in crypto world.

Fiat as well can be traded and use in illegal activities, so that argument is flawed. But I could understand if they say that crypto can't be controlled by their government, because that's how most of the coins are designed, anonymous and pseudo-anonymous. They should look at Venezuela and Zimbabwe's economic situations, those people in their survived with the used of bitcoin and other crypto currencies in general. It also brings positive impact to the government and its citizens as well.

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Well it has just put gas to a burning fire. What is happening right now is bad news over bad nes is coming that is why it is helping Bitcoin to go down more at this dip because a lot of investors are fearing of what is happening and they are wise to do so. Additionaly the chart of Bitcoin has failed to re-test its resistance having a declining double tops showed that a decline like this would happen. So people who have sold their Biycoin are lucky as they can buy it at a cheaper price.

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that news just advertises the beautiful tax-evasion possibilities cryptos provide, good for market

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Bitcoin doesnt need France to pump. Despite of Bitcoin's current bloody position. I believe it will recover. Just look at the volume. Whales are just accumulating from the dip. They are slowly buying every single dip.

Quote from: marlonBitCoin on January 16, 2018, 08:54:13 AM

I read on news that

"The French finance minister has called for tough new regulations on cryptocurrencies to stop them being used to dodge tax or finance terrorism and other crimes"
Source ( http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/france-declares-war-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-ripple-tough-new-stance-lead-ban-7231339/?ito=cbshare)

Is this having any impact on the downtrend nature of the whole Crypto Currency market today?
Are some investors having second thought about crypto and selling them?

Would like to get some idea about this.

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Quote from: ChaitanyaKosaraju on January 17, 2018, 09:21:37 AM

Quote from: Netnox on January 16, 2018, 11:31:10 AM

What is wrong with all these nations? First it was China which was trying to ban the Bitcoin trade. Then it was India's turn. And then we heard news from Nepal and Bangladesh, where Bitcoin users were arrested and detained. And when we thought that we had enough, there was a major blow from one of the most significant markets (South Korea). And now France as well...

Small correction India didn't try to regulate Bitcoin or crypto, Indian Income tax department raided Bitcoin traders to check if there is any money laundering case, if one is honest there is no need to worry here.

i wish france would rather do like India that only checked that there is something illegal is happening , unlike what others do that it really affects the price of bitcoin today , i dont think that the price drop is alarming , also hoping for some kick to pump price.

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Yes, i just read some news that france declare war on cryptocurrencies. Because they say that they are using bitcoins in trading some illegal transactions. And also china banning bitcoin mining. Thats give big effect in all markets in crypto world.

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I am very much in favour of any regulation or hard stance on the financing of illegal activities, or at minimum those related to terrorism and illegal drugs. Obviously, I would rather make it difficult for people who are trying to kill me.

I am however afraid of governments using fear for political means.

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Quote from: Tenderino on January 16, 2018, 05:28:00 PM

I do not think that decisions of single countries will have a huge impact on the crypto currency price, except China probably. The crypto market cap already reached $840 billion and I was expecting that a war will start when reaching $1 trillion. But this only confirms the success of the independent crypto currencies and I have no idea how they practically want to stop the use of it. Yes, they can regulate or prohibit the public exchanges, but they can not stop the use.

We all hope after the ban crypto trading in china, other countries are able to overcome the problems that could affect the market price so that in the future there is a country that has the largest market other than China and market price movements that can beat the value of digital currencies such as the current price that lowers the price . Hopefully in 2018 there is a structuring of cryptocurrency trading so that the value of market prices can increasingly raise the price.

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Quote from: Netnox on January 16, 2018, 11:31:10 AM

What is wrong with all these nations? First it was China which was trying to ban the Bitcoin trade. Then it was India's turn. And then we heard news from Nepal and Bangladesh, where Bitcoin users were arrested and detained. And when we thought that we had enough, there was a major blow from one of the most significant markets (South Korea). And now France as well...

Small correction India didn't try to regulate Bitcoin or crypto, Indian Income tax department raided Bitcoin traders to check if there is any money laundering case, if one is honest there is no need to worry here.

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