Topic: France(ism): ban the burkinis - page 2. (Read 5668 times)

Again please work on your reading comprehension.
Where did i say something about burkas and burkinis (or whatever they are called - until this thread i didnt even knew they existed)?
I bolded my post and will ask you the same:

Are you demanding from girls to go topless or naked outside in the public?
Very questionable.


Whoever does that is imho not normal in the head.


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Burkas gonna get banned in germany and im supporting it for obvious reasons.
And the reason is not because it is a symbol of islam.

I think real issues here are not burkinis but can we accept different culture, tradition and way of life in our countries?
Woman in burkinis are not criminals or terrorist, so why to ban their swimming clothes?
If we accept even naked woman on the beaches, why we can't accept woman in burkinis?
What is wrong with burkinis?
I don't understand really.
It seems if this ban of burkinis passed successfully, next step will be rule which music is acceptable to listen, which books to read, which language to talk etc.
Orwell's ''Big brother'' in reality.
Maybe, last step will be to ban any clothes for man or woman on the beaches

i Support burkini ban

If you had any clue to why we want the burka or burkini banned then you would agree that it should be banned..BUT to STUPID to know why.

Now i suppose my earth sisters want women to walk around naked?..

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Burkini is a symbol of religion and that religion is ISLAM the worst kind of religion..
Yes please ban NUN's from beach if the muslims feel they are hard done by WIN WIN situation..
 
I don't care if they ban all religion in public places best thing to do solves all problems no one can complain to say who as been favoured..

And the reason your blind to the situation is because you love MAMA MERKEL..
Crazy dude ..

Are you demanding from girls to go topless or naked outside in the public?
Very questionable.

Burkini is a step forward for Muslim women. A stupid version of Islam prevents people from enjoying and having fun like listening to music or having fun in water. Generally confined, the burkini would allow muslim women to socialize with the European way. And eventually they would choose what they would find better.

Personally, I see a ban on certain styles of clothing as "things going backwards".  It's downright archaic.  Sure, people should have the right to bare some flesh if they want, but they should also have the right to cover up or dress modestly if that's their preference.  Trampling over peoples' rights to wear what they want is not "progress".  Forced conformity is not "progress".  Demanding that others change their ways to meet your worldview is not "progress".  Those are antiquated ideals from much darker periods in human history.  You should be exceedingly careful what you wish for in that regard, because it might be *your* preferences that come under attack next.  If human beings were to truly progress, we would stop caring about physical differences altogether and respect the personal choices of others.  How about we stop repeating the mistakes of the past and try moving forward? 

I've seen one fully veiled woman today. In France, in Grasse. I thought it was forbidden, maybe she didn't know the law. You could only see her eyes, and that wasn't nice. There are more than 50 countries (yes, five-O) in the world where a woman cannot wear a skirt in the world, and I hope France will not add to that list. French women have been fighting for decades the right to show and enjoy their body and sexuality, and it's very sad to see things going backwards.

Fortunately, it was better at the beach, with one woman topless, but she was more than 50. The young women do not go topless the way their parents did. I don't see this as progress.

If by "a handy photographer" you mean "an ordinary member of the public with a phone" just happening to be right there, then it's not really that hard to imagine.  Feel free to talk about the possibility of it being staged as much as you like.  I'll feel free to keep pointing out that the best way to stop someone staging such an event would be to lift the ban, like the courts said to.

Not just that.  But the fact she did it 10 feet from the police/guard station, with a handy photographer just happening to be right there. 

It looks pretty much staged, dude.

What's your point?  That we shouldn't talk about it being staged?  Even Wikipedia has an accurate history of the Rosa Parks staging of her protest.

Yes, I cut your post off. 

Remind me again why people should dress to meet your expectations as opposed to wearing what they want?  If everyone thought that way, no one would be allowed any choice whatsoever.  Can't you understand what a dangerous mindset that is?


Because you decided to "cut my worthless post off right there".  If you don't want to take my arguments seriously, I'm happy to reply in kind.  I'll repeat the point again to give it a chance to sink in: 

If you think lacking a towel/book/parasol is somehow proof that it was staged, then you are absolutely 100% clutching at straws.  I've been to a beach more times than I can remember without any of those things.  It proves literally nothing.

Not sure what the ad hoc ad hominem has to do with a question over the staging of events...

I'm in Nice for a few days. I haven't any woman in burkini so far, and that's good. I hope I won't see any. I've seen women wearing some kind of sports bras in the street, that's what I'm expecting to see on the Riviera.

More blacks kill blacks than any white person who kills blacks by far.. Many many times more..
More muslims kill muslims than any white person who kills muslims by far..Many many times more..

Now about rights..Why come to our land and complain about your rights?..Why not complain in your own muslim law country?..
I will tell you why..Because you have no rights in your own lands and you come over here and complain because you can get away with it..
Done it in your own Muslim countries you be jailed whipped hands cut off..

Go and complain to your own Muslim country..

And the labour party will never win in a hundred years  ..Bringing low skilled workers for the vote in the election more poor voters to support your party..Scum bags

I was a die hard labour party man..NOT NO MORE..The things i know what tony rat Blair and Gordon Quasimodo brown have done to our country for money to line there own pockets..
You 2 people never show your faces in politics again..RATS

And you're still totally butthurt that you can't treat black people like lesser beings because they stood up for their rights, so you're going to cling onto any excuse to treat Muslims like lesser beings and refuse to let them stand up for their rights?  Got it.

I thought I would cut your worthless post off right there.  Now regarding the actuality of the matter we are discussing.

Why don't you look up Rosa Parks?  She was the famous black woman who refused to sit at the back of the bus, and is in the history books as an important part of civil rights.

It's well understood that Rosa Parks's bus incident was completely, 100% staged.

Many examples of this exist.  But please, don't just either believe me or shrug it off.  Just look up the Rosa Parks story and think about it.

I can assure you I'm not likely to be swayed by any swill from the Daily Fail.  Of all the odious gutter rags out there, I find theirs by far the most contemptible.  I could find more journalistic integrity from a single person in a mental asylum scrawling gibberish on the walls using their own excrement than from the entire staff of the Daily Fail combined.  

Also, their only "evidence" of it being staged is "no towel, book or parasol"?  I have NEVER in my ENTIRE LIFE brought a parasol or a book to a beach and maybe remembered to bring a towel half a dozen times or so.  And I live on the coast, so it's not like I don't go to the beach all that often.  The only thing that proves is the Daily Fail are just as desperate to clutch at straws as you are.    

And even if pigs flew, hell froze over and that incident did somehow turn out to be staged (hint: it wasn't), the best way to prevent anyone from using the ban as a propaganda tool is to lift the ban.

Very good post, specially the part about ham in the pizza!!! Terrorists. Air lift, Sahara desert, land open plan gate, move out, take water you can carry, good bye and good luck! Take off, next rotation. They become violent there: engage drones. Wipe, rinse and repeat.

After reading the story i was puzzled why isis would also like the ban ..

But campaigners say the burkini ban is 'exactly what ISIS wants'..
Very good of isis at least we agree on something ..

Oh i see the Muslims suppose to go crazy over the ban and cause loads of trouble..

Also to you freedom people you don't understand what will happen if islam spreads to our western lands and becomes the leading force..
Women you have fought for your freedom for thousands of years and in the 21st century your just starting to become equal in the west only just now your getting your rights the same as a man..

If islam takes over you can kiss good bye to all your rights as a woman..
Because when something become more of the other we humans do what the most want done

So why on earth would you want to be a mans slave?..
Look even a ham pizza upset muslims in france not even there own place of origin and they want to beat you over a pizza..
Now imagine if they become the most type of people what will it be like walking down the street then..
So if your going to let Islam spread and become the major people in your land then be prepared for the consequences..
Lets see if the want the burka and burkini then..

OH and if your thinking that will never happen...THINK AGAIN..

RA had same problem with the Jews..trying to take over and they won
Jews had same problem with Christians..trying to take over and they won

And in the 21st century the Christians have the same problem with the muslims..
NOW HAVE THEY TOOK OVER AND WON YET?..but they sure are taking the piss tho

Do you see the pattern once they become the most then the madness comes then..
It's the women i feel sorry for ..

But some woman are so stupid and have no clue as to what there doing ..
Example..Oh i will wear one of those burkini to hide my fat body..
Not knowing they are promoting ISLAM..
Then one day it will be you better leave it on or i will whip you..

But don't worry if you get fat we men can always marry another one
and no i don't want to but i am sure many will..

BURKINI symbol of ISLAM=SLAVE..