Topic: France(ism): ban the burkinis - page 4. (Read 5668 times)

What really shocks me is when someone says that there could be a bomb under the burkini... Bagpack anyone? It's hopeless 

One of the main principles of the French Republic is the laïcité. It is the total disconnection, even the hate between State and religion. In that way, wearing religious clothes is prohibited.

The biggest problem I see with those ghettos is:

- weed illegal, making the drug trade prosper... And all the illegal victim full activities too (gun trade, human trafficking etc).

- if you don't wear a hijab your a slut and can be gang raped in a cave.

- as you said a lot of illegal unregistered people there.

- 0 support for the republic like you said, visible soon at the soccer World Cup where all the flags are on display but the French one. Of course if the cops are always harassing for plants... How to like the republic

- these buildings are from Soviet Union... Even worst. Proximity is unbearable.

- very few success stories but pushing a ball...

Then the goal isn't to deport peaceful protest against the return of the mount of the temple... But the violent ones.

 Yes, I appreciate the fact that you have considered some solutions.  I like your deportation option. 
Sure, France showed short-sightedness in employing cheap labour but it allowed their economy to become one of the strongest in europe.  Les Banlieues continues to be a problem for France with nearly 50% unemployment and seriously impoverished conditions.  No doubt these areas will become more problematic with continued immigration from low-skilled asylum seekers.  France needs to deal with this before anything else.   That costs money though, whereas banning the burkini cost virtually nothing.

Ahaha... Be ready to be blown away!

So first France should tackle the young men... Why!?! Hehehe, this one you will have to figure it yourself. Btw where is price money? (You can always pm me for btc address).

So legalize cannabis, and kick start the weed economy, chateau cannabis, organic, highest quality to compete with the west coast. This would bring back sanity, justice, equality and fraternity.

Then as this is not a French issue, it must be seen in a global context. Ready?!? Isreal should take over the mount of the temple military. As soon as the fake French start to manifest violently, the purge begins. But be aware it's gonna be massive, revolt, cities burning and co.

But there is no other path. The goal isn't to jail the violent up risers in France but send them back in the Sahara.

Or with birth rate and demographic shitft (French baby boomers + crazy breeders = A Muslim will soon win the presidential election)... And as its clear supremacists always win as they see martyrdom in imposing the Quran as the only path to martyrdom.

This is the gift that those that wanted cheap labor from North Africa have let you... And it will never stop giving.

So do you like it?

It's not forbidden if you go back to Muslim lands ..We are at war with Islam state..

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3 YEARS GONE BY AND STILL WE GET THIS?

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Burkini symbol of ISLAM     ISLAM =BOMBS=DEATH=SADNESS..
And like i said i went the beach to relax  STRESS=CANCER

So it could harm me by getting blew up..
Then i could get cancer with the stress knowing we have a Muslim fanatic on the beach..
Now she must be a fanatic because why she gone that far to wear the Burkini in the first place?..

Now if a women come on the beach showing her body then said she was a muslim i would think oh she must be a moderate Muslim..My thinking not to serious about fairy tales hmm happy days..
Then that be ok with me..NOT THE BURKINI.. FANATIC MUSLIM.. BOMBS=DEATH=SADNESS..

I say give ISLAM UP and we can have peace ..

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As usual you have no logic.

Dogs ARE regulated because they can bite and can have rabies.

We should invite a saudi woman to tell what she thinks.
I remember dining in Cannes a few years ago, when a group of 20 saudis arrived around midnight. They were all loud and flashing their money, with some women showing serious cleavage (as most women do in Cannes). It was obvious the women were having a good time, and enjoying the freedom they had in France.
More recently, in Geneva, I saw an arab walking with his woman fully veiled behind him, I can't say if she was having fun, but I don't think so.

 So aside from the radical islamists randomly attacking and killing people, please tell us what stuff was unbearable for you.  What freedoms did you feel you didn't have while you were freely coming and going to this communist paradise?  List those things that you couldn't put up with.  Were you unable to find the new heavily guarded Charlie Hebdo office?  Did you miss an event at the Bataclan?  Was your sunbathing interrupted during the police investigation in Nice after Bastille Day?

 The law was made by regional governments as a reactionary measure to give the percpetion to the public that something was being done to protect them. This is what leaders do!  They come up with solutions to problems.  Elected representatives are not necessarily the brightest individuals but the beauty of living in a free society is that you have recourse and those laws can be appealed.  There is however, no coming back from having your life premaurely snuffed out by a misguided radical freely expressing himself with a rifle, knife, truck or bomb.

 Do you have answers to this problem?
 ...I doubt it.

 How about you Masha Sah?  You're great a posting the political issues... how about your solution?


 

I've spent a lot of time in france. there's a lot of stuff I couldn't put up with. it's about as close to communism as you're gonna get in Europe these days.

Now sarkozy is trying to score political points saying he will change the constitution to allow the ban if he gets reelected.



Different things. Banning religious symbols from schools and public buildings has to do with separation of church and state. The state not imposing a religion on people. Everyone is still able to choose what they want to believe in. This law is just stupid and unconstitutional.

LoL a francist refuse to see reality... Pathological denial of reality detected.

I find this whole thing really freaking bizarre. it's an item of clothing that fits the way they want to live their life. they are citizens of a supposedly free country who should be free to do what they want.

it's one thing to ban religious symbols from schools and public buildings, but I don't get that either, it's another level of weirdness to get heavy about this.

they do have track record about this though. I don't of any other country that forces you to wear speedos so it's evidently some glitch in the French psyche.

Yeah very reasonable point of view! Let's ban everyone and everything that doesn't suit you. So start with burkini,  then maybe young people because they make noise, then any people with dogs, and why not couples?

See, freedom stops where the freedom of others starts. It doesn't harm you in any way to see other people with burkini, so why should it be forbiden ?

No there is no place in france where you get hurt for not wearing a burka. That's just shit propaganda it doesn't happen.

And banning burkini isn't better than making them compulsory! In both cases you don't allow people a basic freedom which is to wear what they god damn want!

It's more than a wish... The theory goes that most opponents to the one world gov ruled by western olgicarchs have been white. The official narrative is that white are responsible for slavery and nazism.

You're right that this isn't going to disappear, but it sounds like some people in this thread wish that non-whites would magically vanish because they feel threatened by the mere presence of them.  "Grow a pair" means, if you're living in fear of anyone with a different ethnicity or religion, you're a weak and spineless creature and you need to grow some balls and get used to it.  We're all human beings, but at the same time, we're all individuals and are perfectly entitled to be.  If you can't cope with people who are different to you, then the problem lies with you.  Stop trying to change other people to fit your ideals. 

In all fairness, the only method used in recent history against hard-right authoritarians were extremely harsh sanctions (which were responsible for the death of millions of innocent children in Iraq) and all out war.  So has the west become hard-right authoritarians or have they just "grown a pair"?  I liken the burkini ban reaction to a sanction; the first step toward a resolution to this terrorist problem.  This isn't simply going to disappear, what do you mean by growing a pair?  It doesn't seem to be a viable solution.

I was replying to an argument about covered faces and you came in with a completely unrelated and irrelevant argument about cold temperatures.  People do wear wetsuits in summer and are perfectly and legally entitled to do so.  Therefore, the same entitlement should apply to burkinis.  If you're not also arguing that wetsuits covering the head should be banned in summer as well, you're still a hypocrite.



If your sensibilities are really that delicate, I can't help but wonder how you even function on a day to day basis.  What you're basically saying is that terrorism has won and you spend all day jumping at shadows as a result.  Grow a pair.



You too, grow a pair.  And stop tarring everyone with the same brush.



So we should totally fight fire with fire and become just as totalitarian as those countries.   Yeah, that makes sense.  
That's the mentality you're supporting.  You're just becoming the opposite side of the same extremist coin.  You'll eventually turn into everything you claim to hate.  They are hard right authoritarians and you're a hard right authoritarian.  Peas in a pod.  I'm struggling to see the difference already.