Topic: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) (Read 4366 times)

For this case it includes both: logical calculation & personal experience. His bot initially perform not very effective (hit a rare streak once every two or three weeks) but after sometimes play and together with input from other users it achieve a near perfect result (hit a rare streak once every two or three months). So it can be concluded: research to have logical calculation (betsize, odds, iteration of random events/sets), resolve the "spike" or "skewness" of distribution of numbers (rolled results), test as much as possible to have accurate statistic. Sum of few dollars I would say it is a no, the minimum balance at least should be 0.5BTC (total willing to lose) for around 70% win chance but for better chance to win in the long term you need 1 -> 2BTC (almost you will never lose 24/7 plays with minimal/safest settings).

Otherwise as the site mod said, majority of them lose, that's because of "not enough balance". In any case, play with test mode first to understand how it work, if you managed to have enough patent to run the test 24/7 for few months or even half a year you will understand much of it and have enough confident on playing for real (required balance/ total earning / chance of bursting at specified balance). The reason for test that long is to find out how long it is for the question "you will lose in the long run".

I am one of those people who are confident that a good result can only be reached through logical inference.  But in this case, there are two options for how to achieve the goal, and this is the study and understanding of the whole process or the method of personal trial and error, during which understanding comes.  In my opinion, personal practice gives more results, because in this case a person gains experience.  But will the practice give me experience if I play with minimal sums of a few dollars?

It is correct and you are missing the vital point that the "unlucky event" can happen the very first time you try it. What I have noticed is that in general the people that walk away with a large profit generally make very few bets.


It might be easy but I have no interest in doing it. I do regularly check accounts that are deep in profit to make sure they haven't found an exploit. So far the OP's account hasn't shown up.


Whatever. The only thing that matters to me is that in total the people using this bot lose 8% of what they wager compared to a house edge of 5%.

That's the whole concept before something can be concluded thus it's complicated, but once it is concluded you might be surprise that it's required only less than 100 lines of code for the logic (not counting those supporting things for the bot to work i.e: talk with server, catch errors, etc..) and if it work for freebitco.in with 5% edge, it will work on any site since 1% or 2% is max.

Undoubtedly, I understand what you are talking about, but it’s very difficult to immediately understand and comprehend.  The situation in which I am today reminds me of the time when I was studying the multiplication plate.  When I was just trying to study it, it was very difficult for me, but over time, in a place with knowledge that I just learned by heart, I came to understand how this all happens.  Now, with this understanding, I can solve multilevel equations mentally, without the help of a calculator.  Now it’s time for me to study the procedure for gambling, which I have yet to understand.

That's not correct since the total bets placed is 200,000,000+, lucky alone will not get someone pass this number of bets. If so, when will be the unlucky event happen? will it be 1,000,000,000 or higher/lower?

It's easy to find out since the bot paused sometimes (which in his term is digout), base on the stat there it's easy to spot (top 20 at least for each month contest), but the harder part is once it is spotted and is deep in PROFIT which will cause you to choose between: admit or deny/ truth or lie.

It's the fact that the majority of the users are still deep into greedy (earning too much per a total amount going to be risked, like i said in previous post which require the user willing to risk decent amount to see a high chance of getting out in profit -- or non-losing state), so it's common to see the overall stat which includes profit/lost from winners/losers -- i see few kids/noobs really there to risk everything at the first try with the bot within minutes due to their lack of understand. And since it is exposed to the public (to let anyone keep an eye on the livestream) no one stupid enough to give his account to collect referral might be the account of his wife or daughter/son or even a poor friend, and the live streamed account might not have a referrer at all since it's profit is 1.5 btc/3 weeks (500 - 550 hours) or 2 btc per month might be enough for him lol. The main point here which I was referring to is the profit of himself playing not the referrals.

Majority of them currently are those have not enough balance to play and those users with that amount of BTC are afraid of since the bot is closed source and get bad reputation here in this forum, as you already see it 99% of the people against it (or him). Due to the "not enough balance issue", the users requested for an alternative to play with alts which majority of us have that amount of required capital (20BTC is not but 20ETH is yes) thus accumulating and come back with you later once the "capital" isssue is resolved. That's the reason he and the users including me keep looking for a good site to start with.

That's hardly an admission it is a statement of how gambling works. Some people get lucky and win and others don't. Gambling wouldn't exist if it didn't offer the possibility to win.


I do monitor accounts that win but I never have spotted the OP's account that runs the live stream.


The account they use to collect referral commissions from the script users has a wagering profit of -0.03670473.
The referrals have a profit of -14.30733113

The site mod admit they "lose to some users", and with your live stream is running 24/7 he can easily spot which account is it, given the scenario he has access to database (beside the owner), just the matter if he is honest enough to admit that you win or just some excuses of those winners are whale players or extremely lucky dudes.

The key that most people are not able to see is the Time element.  It's more than just a word,  it's actually a part of a mathematical equation and as we all know,  there are always 2 sides to an equation.  If you move the numbers around,  they can change only 1 element,  time,  yet still produce the SAME result.  This is proven when you bend light for example (gravity, curvature of the earth, etc).  The same is true for mathematical truths.  It doesnt matter if it takes 3 seconds or 3 trillion years,  at some point the statement will become true.  So if you manipulate the equation to have time be as long as possible,  you'll begin to understand why this works.  See,  there is absolutely NO getting around the fact that with a house edge,  the house always wins.  However that doesnt tell you the most IMPORTANT part.  WHEN will the house win.  If the house wins in 500 years,  do you really care?  I know I sure dont.  So that is what my bot does,  it flips time to the side of the equation that produces the most time.  It gives you the most time that your balance can support and in doing so,  you can be VERY successful and turn quite a decent profit because you know that the inevitable isnt going to happen in your lifetime.  I prove this with my live stream.  It's been up 24/7 365 for over 2.5yrs now.  I have gone from 0 to 31BTC in that time span.  However it was not all roses and candy during that time.  I DID have to endure weeks of being "in the hole" significant amounts of BTC but persistence and knowledge of how things work eventually paid off in the end and I broke ALL the losing streaks I've ever had.  My goal is to reach 100BTC before I retire and that goal is now well within reach.  At that point,  I probably wont need to do this anymore,  but who knows,  it's extremely fun and I may just continue simply for the fun factor alone.

Heres an example:
If you have a situation where you can roll 1000 times and the odds of you winning goes down incrementally,  you end up with this:

10 mins = 50% odds to lose
20 mins = 25% odds to lose
40 mins = 12.5% odds to lose
and so on.  So if you push the time out far enough, you can eventually reach a point where you're at 99.9999% or more likely to win.  You'll NEVER reach 100% because of the house edge,  but if it takes eons to lose,  who the fuck cares right?  

The one thing that can ruin your day though is GREED.  The greedier you get,  the more likely you are to bite off more than you can chew.  Keep it slow and steady and always insure that time will never be less than you're going to be on this earth and you can be successful.  What I have done is simply show you how to do it and about how much capitol it would take to do so.  The rest is up to you.

Truth be told, I really wondered exactly what you wrote to me.  I copied all your words into a notebook to study in more detail and it is possible to understand what my mistake is, if I am almost always in the red.  Of course, the help of an experienced person would visually be much better, but I will try to figure it out based on how you advised.

The rule is simple:
1. Losing streaks fall into 3 categories: common, rare, extremely rare.
- Scale your total balance (willing to lose) to beat more than rare streaks.

2. Resolve the "skewness" of the rolled result/number (sometime it tend to appear more on LO, or HI or more EVEN number than ODD and vice versa, this is normally the cause to lose all).
- Introduce some random events into the strategy with aim to normalize/resolve it (simple example: two set of random numbers, if you join them there are common numbers belong to both sets).

3. Be within 1% of people who believe there is method to beat above problem of random numbers (if you are in 99% then please don't mind and leave).
- Albert Einstein supposedly once said: “No one can win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn’t looking.”. Everyone tend to have no doubt on this statement, but at his time he did not have a computer to test, that's the problem for someone to prove it...not 100% correct.

4. Within 1% above, have ball to play (willing to risk few BTCs...recommended is  min 2BTC for Freebitco.in this is the most difficult thing).

His bot solve (1) and (2) for you, and for successfully play with it, you need (3) and (4).

Good. It's very good  It looks really very tempting.  I already feel the desire to experience the same experience as you personally.  I am still not very experienced in gambling and in most cases I am worried that these numbers will mislead me and I will call back my opportunities.

A decent result, yes. On other site, it work exactly the same with his live stream and is alive 24/7 for almost 3 months (started 3rd week of June, 19).
- Bets: 22,641,361
- Wagered: 9.36300474
- Profit: 0.77323021
- Initial capital: 1.0
- Current balance: 1.77323021
- Max draw down (to win a rare losing streak): 0.62
* Adjusted to meet total 1.0 capital (bet size not as big as his live stream...need 20 coins)

You are quite interesting and correctly outlined the current situation, which really looks very good.  Nevertheless, I would like to see the real results of the fact that you or another person used this concept personally and got a decent result.

Make one private version for other site which profile (bet count, profit or loss) can be viewed by the public , once it reach 50 million bets, publish the user name for everyone to verify (or you might just live stream it along with current one). Seeing is believing, once people get it they will join you in Freebitco. This private version might never be published to others since other sites referral income is shitty and might not have good a way to control/ limit the usage of users.

To anyone who interested in, I can confirm that this really work, this dude actually found out something on math & probability studies. I actually made a copy cat bot myself for other site based on understanding his explaination of things (well, surprising that he did not hide but explain the concept inside out)...and it work exactly the same (of course, with less capital needed due to lower house edge), and if you want to see proof, well not yet I am just 40% of 50 million bets count mark (having that much bets is to shut any moron saying that it is just lucky).

Hah,  good one,  digout the thread  467 days later My bot still rollin 24/7 live every day.  Ya,  tell me the strategy and bot isnt successful again haha.  I guess their site cant say the same.  It literally just died :/  Been down a couple hours now.  I hope I didnt bankrupt them right off da interwebz lol.  Or maybe they done pissed off the wrong hacker dudes and are now suffering from a DDOS (cloudflare sux at protecting against those).

Since there is request for you @broke_tradah, i am helping you to "Digout" this thread.

This has nothing to do with gullible anything and everything to do with an obvious change to Multiply roll RESULTS (which are need for bots to determine what to bet next, etc).  Clearly freebitco lost the game of chicken we were in and swerved hard to port.  Actions speak louder than your babble  Freebitco's own actions have proven my point for me.  Thanx  I sat here with a LIVE 24x7 stream of everything I was saying and now we have Freebitco's action in a direct attempt to stop the bleeding.  No matter what you say now,  you've been proven a liar lol.  But its ok man,  it's just your job to protect the casino's bottom line.  You're still a good man just doing his job.  No ill feelings.  It's not your fault that the deck was stacked against you.

Thats right,  run along little one.  Go play with the bugs and birds that have the same intelligence level as yourself LMFAO.

You know,  even though the site has clearly blocked multiply rolls on purpose and broke my bot,  I really dont even care.  I'm actually satisfied with the fact that I was proven correct by the site itself.  This should help people take notice that being successful in a dice game is VERY real and that the bots doing it are not doing it for the fashion statement.  There truly is something to this,  I documented it every step of the way and it ended in the predicted outcome that it would be the casino that swerves off the road first,  not my bot.

I see that the multiply roll result encryption wasnt the only change either.  Freebitco is gearing up to have advertising also from the looks of things:

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<     $(".advertise_link_stats").click(function(event) {});
---
>     $(".advertise_link_stats").click(function(event) {
>         window.location.replace("http://freebitco.in/?op=home&tab=advertise");
>     });

Previously that advertise event was blank.  Now it's got an actual URL.  Hurting for capitol much?  lol.  That link doesnt do anything yet,  but my assumption is that it's probably for admins anyway

EDIT:  I left the above post intact because unlike some people around here,  I actually will admit when I was wrong  I have since noticed that I was incorrect about the encryption.  It wasnt actually encrypted,  it was that wetsuit removed the Br compression header yet chrome browser says it was requested which threw me off for a little bit.  Good "DUUUUUUH" moment lmao.  So,  the chicken game is back on  Chalk one up for the freebitco team,  that was a good curveball.  Looks like wetsuit is just cleaning up his spaghetti code and removed Br from the headers of all requests.  But whatever,  it's now working again heh.  Game on  I look forward to running you through the mud some more with my success haha.

I have since withdrawn 0.16 (4 more 0.04 wins) and recorded 1 loss of 0.04.  Whatz up bubz.  I thought you said I'd lose it all.  lol.  All I hear are crickets.  You gotta watch my youtube live stream sometime,  maybe you'll learn a thing or 5.

UPDATE:  6-21-2018 (Yep, it's still live! lmfao)
Now also have a Discord channel with LOTS of people having success here:  https://discord.gg/xkRH8R
Deposits: 0.05BTC
Withdraws: 4.842BTC
Record: 7-1 (record is since the start of this thread,  I've won much more than this in the past)

No longer using 0.05 as a starting balance.  I've kicked it up to 0.5 and withdraw at 1.1BTC.

I'm bored listening to your bullshit right now and I have more interesting things to do this evening than argue with your delusions. Enjoy talking to yourself because the Gambling board on the Bitcoin Forum isn't going to yield the gullible idiots you're looking for.

Let me remind you of something.

THERE IS NO REASON TO ENCRYPT A FREE ROLL RESULT.

Why?  Because there is no action to take place AFTER the roll.  You simply roll, and dont care about the result.  You do realize that my bot's free rolls feature still work right?  Why?  Because it doesnt care about the result you complete retard.  This only affects MULTIPLY rolls in which you NEED a result to calculate what the next bet amount should be.  Man you are daft.  Stop harping on the free roll stuff,  that feature of the site still works just fine as far as my bot would be concerned.

What part of "RESULT" dont you understand?