Topic: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) - page 9. (Read 4366 times)

Really?  Lying to them huh.  How many posts do you see here where I use the word inevitable?  And how many times do you see me use the term 'too greedy'in my readme?  Where is this lying you speak of.  If you are attempting to say that math is a lie,  you have serious issues.  

I make no claim that the bot never loses.  I do however make the claim that I use time as an ally and push the inevitable so far into the future that its not likely to happen any time soon.  How is that a lie.  please explain and provide the math to back it up.

No, normal casino customers aren't being lied to that they can't lose. They understand it is game of chance and some win and others lose.


There are not, but lying to them is.

There is a flaw in your flaw.  Using this logic, there is a retention issue of gamblers to casinos since ALL casinos are mathmatically DESIGNED to make the user lose.  Why on earth would anyone ecer play again at any casino if the damn game is rigged to begin with.  lol

The site you are reading hasnt been updated in a while.  My viewers know the strategy I use now which is similar but slightly different.  Not so different as to warrant modification though.  I keep a 0.04 balance and withdraw at 0.08.  Its essentially the same mathmatically except I dont have to withdraw as often.

Btw,  how are referrals snakey.  If it is,  why does freebitco offer it.  So are you saying that its ok for the casino to offer the same service and its 'not' evil,  yet its evil for others to do that?  I fail to see the logic.  Is it my bot thats causing the true evil (which is the 5% house edge) because if it is I will fix it right away asap!  I do not stack the deck.  That is the site doing that,  not me.

Using your logic of 'making a profit' is evil can just as easily be applied to the casino..... and even to a LARGER degree.

I put in time and effort to build something and its not cool if im paid for it,  but its cool if the casino is paid for their time and effort for work they have done.   What kind of socialist crap thinking is that.  Are you a chinese communist or something?  lol

The proof that you are making a lot off of your referrals naivety and greed. That's not proof you have successfully become the first person in history to invent and infallible betting system.

It says on your website that you keep a balance of 0.05 to win 0.00000547 a day. That's means you have a high probability of winning but when you lose you going to lose big.

You're not the first snake oil salesman to pull that scam.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/12Qqr3tc8J3NfhM6W6PAyT6p7H9CybF52X

Proof is in the pudding.  Try to tell me I make up profits now.  As you can see i live streamed for 2 days with it running 24x7,  it literally doubled the account and i then withdrew 50% of the account (you can still see the pending transaction on  the live stream)  it will show up as an unconfirmed transaction whenever the 'slow' withdraw does its batching which i think is every 1 hour.

Hey TheQuin,  since you think fees in trading equate to a house edge which lowers your chance of winning a roll (or in this case a trade) enlighten me how a fee lowers the likelyhood that btc goes up or down lmfao.  Fees can be CALCULATED into stoploss and take profit lines.  So yes, please enlighten us hahaha.  Why dont you take a look at my 4 current open positions and tell me they are wrong

And no I did not stop the bot after withdrawing.  Its still running  I am confident in this process because I have been using it for so long lol.  The inevitable huge losing strike has not hit in over a year so far.  Im sure someone will but ill take my chance and try it just the same.  Its hard to argue with success

Now tell me what happens if I win again, and again, and again before it finally loses once.  How much would I be up?  And how much would I put back into the account?    This current set of config has a 91% success rate.  So if I win 9 out of 10 account doublings,  you are telling me its not worth the risk right lol.  Its amazing how many people can ignore what is right in front of them.  Is it eventually going to hit a losing streak,  you bet it is.  But its not going to happen anytime soon and since the profit is in the users wallet (if they withdraw like i did)  it gives them the choice to continue or not.  Remember its a tool,  not a get rich quick plan  Take the profits and trade like I do.  Turn the profits into even bigger profits etc.  Its a lot of work to make a financial income but I show how its possible 24×7.  And if referral capitol is considered 'evil'  why does freebitco even offer it heh.

BTW,  TheQuin is correct in that the bot does have an option to roll free rolls but he is incorrect in that it automates it.  Go ahead and use that feature.  It rolls only once and it fails if there is any captcha on the roll  Its up to the user to figure out how to automate that.  I do not do it for them.

Oh... I didn't bother to check his site.
If his bot is doing automated faucet claims, then yes wetsuit should take a look and take action on it

well they won't realize it until they lost the full deposit, and OP will try to get new referrals like he's doing now
when winning they would be excited and keep playing for bigger profit, and at the end lost it
winning or losing, OP keeps getting profits from wager referral bonus and reward points
and a few of them are probably depositing some more trying to win back the losses

I've got an alchemy set I can sell him that turns base metals into gold.

Ah, so this guy created a fake betting script to beat the house, with the main purpose to whore his referral link? So in theory, newbies to Freebitco.in would signup with his referral link to try his fake betting script for the Multiplier? Well, let's give it to OP, he found a way to make some extra money, by doing this. 

The flaw in this strategy is obviously the retention of the referrals, because they will quickly figure out that they were duped and they will stop playing. 

His site claims that his bot actually claims free-rolls which is faucet abuse and could lead to those accounts being banned from playing free-rolls.

When it comes to the auto betting side we positive encourage that. He may claim to have an infallible betting script that always wins more than it loses, but if that was possible then casinos wouldn't exist. We only have his word for his profits and my guess that the referral income is subsidising his betting losses. He is telling people to sign up to his referral link to be able to use the bot and then deposit 0.01 BTC and trust that he has invented a way to walk on water.
Watching a live stream isn't going to tell you anything as you can't follow it 24/7.

He has made a lot factual errors on his site about how freebitco.in works that I won't bother correcting here but this is too funny not point out.


He thinks there are no commissions, exchange fees or spread when you trade. 

The image is just a screenshot of my youtube channel.  I put it there as a comparison to it's current status.  You can also watch the bot in real time on my channel as well.  I could use the bot on it's own without referral bonuses,  but if the opportunity to gain more is there (in the form of referrals),  then why not make use of that too.  I have purposely developed the bot to be very profitable if used correctly because the more people can bet with it,  the more I would stand to make in referral bonuses.  I also prove that the bot is actually profitable on it's own by allowing people to see how I use it personally right on my youtube channel.  It GREATLY out performs the free roll stuff.  It's not even close heh.  So as long as you come into it not expecting to be a billionaire in 3 days,  you should do well with it.  For my old viewers,  they already know how profitable it is because they witnessed me using it to re-fill my Evolve trading account whenever BTC wiped me out lol.  But circumstances are changing to the point where releasing the bot is now something I can afford to do.  I no longer lose my ass as much in trading, so I dont really need it's revenue as much and a good suggestion to tie it to my referral ID was brought up by a viewer which made good sense to me and that resulted in this bot being released.  I now view freebitco as more of a mining operation than an operation to keep my trading account funded.  Although if I do get wiped out in trading, I certainly will dig into freebitco profit heh.

assuming he doesn't lie about what he's doing, I think he doesn't break freebitco.in rules
people misunderstood his post and the kind of botting he provides
he is NOT providing bot for claiming free rolls (faucet)
but he provides bot for dice play (multiply btc) and reaps good amount btc from referral bonus
though I'm still a bit confused about how exactly he's doing it, and the image doesn't tell much

This is no different than a knuckle ball pitcher being used in every game simply because he is providing the most wins.  All the rules of the game are followed.  Seems you have an issue with users actually having a fighting chance of winning.  If that's the case,  why dont you just send me all you're BTC since you think everyone should lose.

I hope wetsuit and/or TheQuin will come buy and nuke your freebitco.in account. Not cool at all, thanks to your stupid actions many other users are affected. Use your computer skills for something else besides this.

No you are correct,  all bots do lose and there is no abuse going on at all.  No abusing of some bug, etc.  It's all just math.  But I think what people have a problem with is that I'm able to prove that it's working by leaving it running 24x7.  Most videos you see of someone showing something is probably just a small clip.  But on my channel you're going to find that my stream is running 24x7.  I do not try to make quick gains.  Instead,  I come at it from a different angle and use TIME as my ally.  I push the inevitable loss so far into the future that the likelyhood of it happening anytime this year is supremely low.  So low that the faucet part of the site actually eats up the 5% house edge because the amounts I get from it are enough to offset any small losses it would have which in turn means those losses are now wins.  The more smaller wins I have,  the further out I can push the inevitable huge loss.  There is no "abuse" going on at all unless you consider winning as abuse (which appears to be the case here).  Apparently people think it's ok for a casino to ALWAYS win.  I happen to disagree.  There also seems to be someone very similar to myself who is doing the exact same thing but I'd never heard of him before until this thread.  I just read a few of his msgs and it's pretty clear to me that his first language is probably not english.  I do find it interesting that I'm not the only streamer doing this though.  I thought I was the only one heh.  Maybe not  But I have yet to find his so called "youtube" channel with 100,000 subs.  Maybe he's one of my viewers?  IDK.  I certainly dont have 100,000 subs thats for damn sure hahaha.  Wouldnt surprise me if someone was trying to pretend to be me lmao,  I do get quite a few views,  especially during bull markets.  Right now viewership is on the low end but thats because its still a bear market.  It'll pick up once BTC goes nutz again lol.

I also just increased it's speed slightly live on stream just to show how easy it is to modify it's efficiency.  Putting on the crash helmets  But even so,  this process is anything BUT speedy,  the speed increase is only comparative to the slow methodical betting it was doing previously.  To some people it would still be painfully slow haha.

I'm trying to understand the situation here but still don't get it , I opened the stream and I can only see a bot running with a chart window for trading
where is the abuse ?? is the OP doing anything wrong ?
in all sites no matter what bot you use you will end up losing so I don't know what's going on here ? was he able to find a leak or something ?

I have no idea who "soloss" is and any admin of the forum could verify that simply by looking at my ip/location.  I am by FAR an anonymous "sockpuppet" lol.  I'm actually a fairly popular live streamer on youtube who also just happens to be a developer as well.  The bot I have released is one I've been using for quite a while on my trading channel.  Whenever I get raped in the trading dept,  I fall back on the revenue I generate from my gamblin' bot.  People have seen me empty it's account many times to re-fill my evolve account (which happens less and less these days because I'm getting better with trading lol).  I got many many requests to release it for others but I always refused because it was something I needed.  That really isnt the case anymore and couple that with a suggestion from a viewer that I lock it to only my referral ID and you get this little bot.  So that debunks that issue.

Bots are NOT anything new,  there are plenty to pick from but you'll find that any bot I develop would generally target those casinos with high house edges AND have referral programs on purpose.  If a site DOESNT have a referral program,  they have no worry that any bot from me would support their site.  Besides,  I have no need to support other sites at this time.  One is more than enough considering how well it does even with a super ridiculously high house edge site like freebitco.  Even if they raised the edge,  I could modify the bot to push that inevitable loss even further into the future.  The only thing it would do is require the user to use a higher balance.  Thats it,  thats all the house edge raising would affect.  Math is math.  Time is always on my side.  I can extend time as far as I want because it is infinite.  If you've seen my stream,  you would know this fact.  I literally run the bot 24x7x365 and it's only lost a few times.  Far less than what it has actually won.  And since I am in no hurry to take the gains,  I have plenty of time to wait for the gains to roll in.  Besides, if they raised the edge anymore,  it would just alienate the other non-bot users anyway.  That may or may not cause the site to die,  even if it DID die,  I could careless.  Something would take its place if there isnt one already available that could do so.  Therefore,  I dont care about the site's health or profitability and I certainly dont care for freebitco's "business practices" If it could even be called that to begin with.  IMO,  I consider it lack of ethics and I have no problem lowering my own ethics to their level.  Maybe you do,  idk but I sure dont.  Maybe thats why I'm able to trade with money I can afford to lose and you cannot.

As for stealing,  I am not exploiting ANY bug,  therefore it's not "stealing".  I use the site using it's own dice rules.  Therefore it cant be considered "stealing".  If anyone is "stealing" it's actually the casino.  IMO, ANY casino that uses an "edge" at all is essentially "stacking the deck".  IMO,  gambling should be exactly 50/50 and NOT profitable to either party.  Why?  Because gambling is a cancer.  It's a disease and those that pray upon that human issue will get no love from me at all.  So therefore they picked their side of the fence and I picked mine.  To me it's fun and even profitable to scalp the casino sites.  I then teach people how to trade with it which again IMO is the only type of "gambling" that is actually ethical since it has 0 "house edge" that affects your chances of coming out on top.  Poker is also a good gambling game I think because it too also has 0 house edge and actually requires some skill.  Rolling dice and giving someone lower odds to win than they should is just underhanded and requires absolutely no skill at all........ unless you're someone like myself who can reverse the curse by automating things and pushing the inevitable loss so far into the future that I'd be worm food before that event ever actually happened.

If you want to say "They dont allow bots" is one of the rules,  well,  clearly they dont really care about that because pretty much all of the public bots will lose everything (including all gains) eventually which is to the benefit of the casino.  It makes no sense for them to stop that kind of activity.  Just take a look at the "Lottery" section of the Freebitco site and tell me that it's not littered with bot use.  I'd laugh in your face.  They also are not going to publicly admit that they are lax on bot use either UNLESS it involves the free roll parts of the site or it creates an administrative nuisance such as creating 1000s of fake accounts.  This bot does neither of those.  It's mainly just a tool to push an eventual loss so far into the future,  that it's likelyhood of happening is near zero.  Which is also why I dont consider this a "get rich quick" bot either.  It's slow but still faster than the free rolls feature of the site.

Besides,  show me a bot who puts their money where their mouth is.  Does ANY other bot stream it's use 24x7?  Answer:  Yes............ Mine.  And it's the only one lol.  Thats says a lot about it's success rate imo.  If you dont like it or agree with it,  dont use it.  But dont attempt to bring out the moral card because I'll beat you silly with it  Those moral/ethical arguments are a two way street and I am a proponent of eye for an eye

Remember this 1 rule and you'll see where I am coming from:   NOTHING in life is free.  So stop thinking that freebitco is some sort of angel like charity lol.  It's not and neither am I.

#solosss, why did you create a separate thread under a Sockpuppet account? Based on what you wrote so far, it is clear that

it is the same person that are trolling in the Freebitco.in thread.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/solosss-2070532

It does not matter to us that they have a higher house edge than other gambling sites or if they are not a pure faucet

site, because theft is theft... no matter where you are stealing from. This makes me think about the comments that some

criminals in my country are making, by saying that they are not stealing from people... but rather from the insurance

companies. To me it comes down to who the real victims are and in this scenario, they are the people that are using the site.

No matter if you are a gambler or a faucet user.... you still get ripped off by bots.  ... The owner will just have to recover

 the money you steal, by increasing the house edge or paying less money on the free rolls. 

Well since i have it locked to my referral ID I also have the ability to limit how many could use it if I ever felt like it was becoming to popular.  Not just anyone can use it.  It has to be authorized first and those auth rules could change if need be but as of right now there is no need.  This is why it took me almost a year to be convinced to release it.  I didnt want it going hogwild and I think I have that concern under control with the auth mechanism I put in that was actually suggested by a viewer which made sense to me so I created it.

Using Bot or Not, Abusing faucets or so-called gambling sites like Freebitco wont really be safe into abuse which there would really people who would really take the advantage specially to have those skills. Quite smart enough to create one even you are just using it on your own but if you tend to share up then it would really spread like wild fire. Just my assumptions too but high chances we would really heading that way.