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Quote from: Bitcoin Dragon on December 09, 2017, 03:25:07 AM

It is just bytes in a computer though.

It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.

I'm missing the point of your argument or you don't undestand the abstract meaning of "value".

Even the "faith in a God" is intangible but it holds so much value that affects the world in so many ways. For humans, being material is not a mandatory feature of a thing to hold value.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Dragon on December 09, 2017, 03:25:07 AM

It is just bytes in a computer though.

It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.

True, but how do you think the current fiat is made? Used to be covered by gold, but not anymore. Your bank account is using the very same "bytes in a computer".
The difference is banks can create as many fiat money as they can (with some small limitations of course) contrary BTC has given supply and fixed ceiling.

EDIT, but this is off topic. Create special thread about and I'll gladly discuss this with you.

Bitcoin Dragon

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It is just bytes in a computer though.

It's "money" made out of thin air based on nothing. Prove me otherwise.

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Quote from: coinpr0n on October 27, 2013, 09:21:28 AM

You might want to be a little careful about the AdSense ads, as from experience I have seen too many Bitcoin faucets get burned by Google. I think Google considers the traffic to be incentivised and this goes against their ToS. Worst part is: it's Google. They will ignore if you file a complaint. Good luck with the faucet!

Oh they are using google adsense for earning?

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I honestly don't know in which time you live in (maybe in the past Huh

) but minimum reward was lower than 20 satoshi for a while now.
And also, 1000% BTC Bonus doesn't work like you said. The bonus is 1000%, not 900%. It's ADDED to your current reward, not changed. So in your delusional example where minimum roll is 20 satoshi, you would get 200 satoshi as a bonus (220 total claim). So yeah, you got every single thing wrong. And you still have the guts to insult others. Pathetic.

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Quote from: hroub on December 08, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

Quote from: Flechashe on December 07, 2017, 10:28:00 AM

Quote from: trilyuner on December 05, 2017, 08:35:05 PM

If i ha e 100,000 reward points and my goal is satoshi

Which is more profitable? Exchange it to 100,000 satoshi or use it to 1000% bonus?

By far the best option is to encash (exchange it to 100000 satoshi). 1000% bonus is a waste of points right now. If you do the max possible rolls, that is 24, you get 3120 satoshi, 80 less than encashing them. To do 24 rolls in the bonus you have to roll every 1 hour exactly and not sleep at all, and for encashing you have to click a button that says encash whenever you want.
I've been saying it for a while now, the BTC Bonus is broken if encashing is that high, the solution to this is to tune down encashing points. This is a mistake, it shouldn't work this way. BTC Bonus should obviously reward more than simply encashing the points.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this.

Cosnider the following:
- You have 100,000 RP
- 1000% BTC bonus costs 3,200 RP/day
- Assume current minimum roll is 20 satoshi
- Current payout difference with 1000% is 0.00000200 - 0.00000020 = 0.00000180 BTC
- if you invest your 100,000 in 1000% BTC bonus which costs 3,200/day: you end up with an extra 0.00000180 BTC/hour
- With 100,000 RP, the 1000% BTC bonus should last you 100,000 RP / 3,200 RP/day = 31.25 days

Now, Consider the followinfg Options:

A: You buy 0.00100000 BTC with the 100,000 RP. You end up with 0.00100000 BTC right away

B: You sleep 7 hours hours and 55 minutes a day

If you sleep 7 hours and 55 minutes per day, then you should be able to make 17 rolls per day = 17 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003060 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003060 BTC/day = 0.00095625 BTC. That is only 4.375 % less than Option A. Not "by far" as you arrigantly mentioned

But,
C: What if you sleep 5 hours and 55 minutes per day?

You should be able to make 19 rolls per day = 19 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003420 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003420 BTC/day = 0.00106875 BTC. That is actually 6.875 % more than Option A!

D: If you dont sleep at all (or take rolling shifts with someone else, maybe I roll yours, you roll mine type of deal if allowed) then:

You should be able to make 24 rolls per day = 24 x 0.00000180 = 0.00004320 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00004320 BTC/day = 0.00135000 BTC. That is actually a whopping 35% more than 0.00100000!

I'm pretty sure everyone will appreciate your input more if you actually do some actual math once in a while.

Oohh nice math Mr. Intelligent.
I'm sorry to tell you that 1000% of 12 satoshi is 120, not 180. So yeah, learn some math

and if you let me make a subjective comment, I think that you are much more arrogant and aggressive than my first comment. Are you butthurt because you use the BTC Bonus option?
"Assuming that current minimum roll is 20 satoshi" is simply lying or not knowing current prizes. Stop trying to discuss things that you obviously didn't look up.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Dragon on December 07, 2017, 09:01:31 PM

It should be at least 100.

On a side note, crypto money isn't real. It's just a bit of fun on our computers, nothing more.

Dude, you understand nothing.
I'm starting to think you are trolling us.

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Quote from: serverus14 on December 08, 2017, 05:35:16 PM

Will FreeBitco.in support "super bitcoin" and give us free coins?? Cheesy

http://supersmartbitcoin.com/

Thanks.

Good question, we're thinking about it...we'll let you know, all of you.

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Don't be fooled by the propaganda. The reward drops and drops as the herd mentality user base increases.

Too many bots and multi-accounting has destroyed the free rolls.

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Quote from: hroub on December 08, 2017, 08:36:03 PM

Quote from: serverus14 on December 08, 2017, 05:35:16 PM

Will FreeBitco.in support "super bitcoin" and give us free coins?? Cheesy

http://supersmartbitcoin.com/

Thanks.

Who cares? Cheesy

(They usually announce fork plans on their main page when you click on withdraw. I assume we should see it there if the SBTC turns out anything but garbage)

Quote from: ConTraX on December 08, 2017, 02:12:38 PM

Quote from: hroub on December 08, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this.

Cosnider the following:
- You have 100,000 RP
- 1000% BTC bonus costs 3,200 RP/day
- Assume current minimum roll is 20 satoshi
- Current payout difference with 1000% is 0.00000200 - 0.00000020 = 0.00000180 BTC
- if you invest your 100,000 in 1000% BTC bonus which costs 3,200/day: you end up with an extra 0.00000180 BTC/hour
- With 100,000 RP, the 1000% BTC bonus should last you 100,000 RP / 3,200 RP/day = 31.25 days

Now, Consider the followinfg Options:

A: You buy 0.00100000 BTC with the 100,000 RP. You end up with 0.00100000 BTC right away

B: You sleep 7 hours hours and 55 minutes a day

If you sleep 7 hours and 55 minutes per day, then you should be able to make 17 rolls per day = 17 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003060 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003060 BTC/day = 0.00095625 BTC. That is only 4.375 % less than Option A. Not "by far" as you arrigantly mentioned

You also should remember, you are assuming minimum roll as 20 sat which has become a past. Now it's 13 sat. So it's a loss now. But you can use RP bonus to get small profit. And as long as RP is available, even if free claim becomes 1 satoshi, you will still be able to get 5 satoshi everytime (disabling lottery, you can claim 4 RP in each roll and 1 RP=1 sat, it means 1sat + 4RP=5sat).

It doent matter what they pay out is. I ws using an easy number as an example to make it easier to understand. As long as it the bonus %, the cost of the bonus and the free roll aount are constant. If you wish I can come up with a formula, but it could look a little comlicated...

EDIT: I just realized that I used the difference amount between the bonus and without the bonus to calculate the profit after 31.25 days instead of the actual amount... Not sure why I did that lol... too tired ... almost 4 AM here... I'll revisit this tomorrow. good night!

Thanks, I only love free coins because it gives me an extra $$$$ since I have plenty of BTC Tongue

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Quote from: serverus14 on December 08, 2017, 05:35:16 PM

Will FreeBitco.in support "super bitcoin" and give us free coins?? Cheesy

http://supersmartbitcoin.com/

Thanks.

Who cares? Cheesy

(They usually announce fork plans on their main page when you click on withdraw. I assume we should see it there if the SBTC turns out anything but garbage)

Quote from: ConTraX on December 08, 2017, 02:12:38 PM

Quote from: hroub on December 08, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this.

Cosnider the following:
- You have 100,000 RP
- 1000% BTC bonus costs 3,200 RP/day
- Assume current minimum roll is 20 satoshi
- Current payout difference with 1000% is 0.00000200 - 0.00000020 = 0.00000180 BTC
- if you invest your 100,000 in 1000% BTC bonus which costs 3,200/day: you end up with an extra 0.00000180 BTC/hour
- With 100,000 RP, the 1000% BTC bonus should last you 100,000 RP / 3,200 RP/day = 31.25 days

Now, Consider the followinfg Options:

A: You buy 0.00100000 BTC with the 100,000 RP. You end up with 0.00100000 BTC right away

B: You sleep 7 hours hours and 55 minutes a day

If you sleep 7 hours and 55 minutes per day, then you should be able to make 17 rolls per day = 17 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003060 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003060 BTC/day = 0.00095625 BTC. That is only 4.375 % less than Option A. Not "by far" as you arrigantly mentioned

You also should remember, you are assuming minimum roll as 20 sat which has become a past. Now it's 13 sat. So it's a loss now. But you can use RP bonus to get small profit. And as long as RP is available, even if free claim becomes 1 satoshi, you will still be able to get 5 satoshi everytime (disabling lottery, you can claim 4 RP in each roll and 1 RP=1 sat, it means 1sat + 4RP=5sat).

It doent matter what they pay out is. I ws using an easy number as an example to make it easier to understand. As long as it the bonus %, the cost of the bonus and the free roll aount are constant. If you wish I can come up with a formula, but it could look a little comlicated...

EDIT: I just realized that I used the difference amount between the bonus and without the bonus to calculate the profit after 31.25 days instead of the actual amount... Not sure why I did that lol... too tired ... almost 4 AM here... I'll revisit this tomorrow. good night!

serverus14

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Will FreeBitco.in support "super bitcoin" and give us free coins?? Cheesy

http://supersmartbitcoin.com/

Thanks.

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Quote from: hroub on December 08, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this.

Cosnider the following:
- You have 100,000 RP
- 1000% BTC bonus costs 3,200 RP/day
- Assume current minimum roll is 20 satoshi
- Current payout difference with 1000% is 0.00000200 - 0.00000020 = 0.00000180 BTC
- if you invest your 100,000 in 1000% BTC bonus which costs 3,200/day: you end up with an extra 0.00000180 BTC/hour
- With 100,000 RP, the 1000% BTC bonus should last you 100,000 RP / 3,200 RP/day = 31.25 days

Now, Consider the followinfg Options:

A: You buy 0.00100000 BTC with the 100,000 RP. You end up with 0.00100000 BTC right away

B: You sleep 7 hours hours and 55 minutes a day

If you sleep 7 hours and 55 minutes per day, then you should be able to make 17 rolls per day = 17 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003060 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003060 BTC/day = 0.00095625 BTC. That is only 4.375 % less than Option A. Not "by far" as you arrigantly mentioned

You also should remember, you are assuming minimum roll as 20 sat which has become a past. Now it's 13 sat. So it's a loss now. But you can use RP bonus to get small profit. And as long as RP is available, even if free claim becomes 1 satoshi, you will still be able to get 5 satoshi everytime (disabling lottery, you can claim 4 RP in each roll and 1 RP=1 sat, it means 1sat + 4RP=5sat).

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I prefer "100 reward points(1200rp)"+ "%500 free BTC".
It's much much better than %1000.
(Even it's better than %1000+100rp).
If you activate %1000 and roll 99xx, you'll lose some satoshis. If the base fbtc (non 99xx) is 14 satoshis, so with %1000 enabled it will pay 154. But 99xx will pay 140.
The best way is using the 100rp bonus and %500 fbtc.
100 points costs 1200.
%500 fbtc costs 1600.
So you need 2800 rp every day.

If you roll 19 times (if you do it more than 20 times somehow believe me your account will be blocked soon).
It will give you 102×19=1938 reward points .
2800-1938=862.
So you need only 862 points everyday.
If you have 100000 rp:
100000÷862~116 days.

If it pays even 10 satoshis per hour.
With %500 enabled it will pay you 60 satoshis.
If you roll 19 times a day ,
19×60=1140.
And it's for 116 days.
1140×116=132,240 satoshis.
There will be plenty of times that you roll 99xx.(100 satoshis).
There will be 5x,4x,3x and 2x weekend bonuses.
So you'll do this for more than 116 days.
So it's better to use my way.

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Quote from: Flechashe on December 07, 2017, 10:28:00 AM

Quote from: trilyuner on December 05, 2017, 08:35:05 PM

If i ha e 100,000 reward points and my goal is satoshi

Which is more profitable? Exchange it to 100,000 satoshi or use it to 1000% bonus?

By far the best option is to encash (exchange it to 100000 satoshi). 1000% bonus is a waste of points right now. If you do the max possible rolls, that is 24, you get 3120 satoshi, 80 less than encashing them. To do 24 rolls in the bonus you have to roll every 1 hour exactly and not sleep at all, and for encashing you have to click a button that says encash whenever you want.
I've been saying it for a while now, the BTC Bonus is broken if encashing is that high, the solution to this is to tune down encashing points. This is a mistake, it shouldn't work this way. BTC Bonus should obviously reward more than simply encashing the points.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this.

EDIT: These calculations on what would be more profitbale are assuming min reward is 20 satoshi and that there are no other bonuses on top of the 100%. (Read later posts):
Cosnider the following:
- You have 100,000 RP
- 1000% BTC bonus costs 3,200 RP/day
- Assume current minimum roll is 20 satoshi
- Current payout difference with 1000% is 0.00000200 - 0.00000020 = 0.00000180 BTC
- if you invest your 100,000 in 1000% BTC bonus which costs 3,200/day: you end up with an extra 0.00000180 BTC/hour
- With 100,000 RP, the 1000% BTC bonus should last you 100,000 RP / 3,200 RP/day = 31.25 days

Now, Consider the followinfg Options:

A: You buy 0.00100000 BTC with the 100,000 RP. You end up with 0.00100000 BTC right away

B: You sleep 7 hours hours and 55 minutes a day

If you sleep 7 hours and 55 minutes per day, then you should be able to make 17 rolls per day = 17 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003060 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003060 BTC/day = 0.00095625 BTC. That is only 4.375 % less than Option A. Not "by far" as you arrigantly mentioned

But,
C: What if you sleep 5 hours and 55 minutes per day?

You should be able to make 19 rolls per day = 19 x 0.00000180 = 0.00003420 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00003420 BTC/day = 0.00106875 BTC. That is actually 6.875 % more than Option A!

D: If you dont sleep at all (or take rolling shifts with someone else, maybe I roll yours, you roll mine type of deal if allowed) then:

You should be able to make 24 rolls per day = 24 x 0.00000180 = 0.00004320 BTC/day

So in 31.25 days you would make 31.25 days x 0.00004320 BTC/day = 0.00135000 BTC. That is actually a whopping 35% more than 0.00100000!

I'm pretty sure everyone will appreciate your input more if you actually do some actual math once in a while.

serverus14

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http://supersmartbitcoin.com/

Thanks.

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i think BTC go to 20k on 2018 Grin

fbtcvip10

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Who said that BTC will go up to 10k at the end of this year?
It's nearly 17k right now! Shocked

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Quote from: Bitcoin Dragon on December 07, 2017, 09:01:31 PM

It should be at least 100.

On a side note, crypto money isn't real. It's just a bit of fun on our computers, nothing more.

Just like any money physical or otherwise as long as there are supply and demand it's as real as it gets. In this instance if you exchange them to any 'real' currency [if you want to use that term] then it's definitely real.

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