Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1184. (Read 559607 times)

True dat.

It’s not your money. If wetsuit exit scams it’s not like you’ll ever realistically be able to get your investment back (most crypto companies still exit scam and do it in clever ways so you can’t grt your funds back en if their identity is known)...

"Our Money".  Folks,  NONE of it is "your money".  You done sent it to freebitco,  so it's now THEIR BTC (btc isnt money btw,  its a digital asset).  It does not matter if you have BTC in your balance or not,  it's not yours.  Regardless of whether or not you deposited it.  What you're seeing is just a MySQL entry in a database.  The BTC you sent in is now in someone else's wallet and is rightfully theirs,  not yours (same goes for an exchange as well,  especially the anonymous ones,  and freebitco is every bit anonymous).  So dont be to surprised when they are less than forthcoming with common sense items such as management of anything you think you own but really do not.  They have no interest in your best interests at all and only care that you lose everything somehow.  Either by mistakes, gambling,  or giving them some dumb excuse to zero your balance (2 accounts for example).  Thats it,  that is all this place cares about.  This is the reason why a lot of "common sense" items are missing.  They are missing on purpose.  Its not some oversight or lack of time to develop.

It is not even a different Bitcoin address, but rather a ledger entry on the Freebitco.in web interface. So it should not be a train smash to implement this.   

I used to channel some of my income from my referral network via the web interface to reward my best referrals, so Freebitco.in already have the tools developed for that, so they can just adapt that function and add that to the total income, to manage the "budget" that are used for the different functions on the site. 

As you said, it is our money and we should be able to manage it better. 

IIRC it only showed the total you had earned from mining. I'll mention it to wetsuit but it seems like it might introduce a vulnerability to me.

I thought they could see your balance before couldn’t they?

Or am I mistaken here? I always thought it was somewhere on the mining page just rom the link. It doesn’t have to be an easy to guess link, it could be something like freebitco.in/depositaddress it’ll still save the faff with 2fa...

How would you secure that? It didn't matter with mining as all anyone could do with it was mine for you. With this, they could see your balance and that could make your account a target for hacking.

@thequin, is it possible to bring back something like the mining permalink so it’s possible to see ones ballance and ones interest without having that faff of logging in every time you want to view it?

It’ll mean there’s less download needed when roaming too...

I agree with what Kakmakr is saying here. It would be more convenient for users if they could keep the money intended for income generation on the same account were they make freerolls, play lottery and play multiply games. Of course people can do what they want with their own money, but it should be made difficult for them to start playing with the invested money. For example, transferring the money from "SAVE" account to "PLAY" account should be possible only with email confirmation.

If you don't precise the real balance of the account, nobody will buy. An account with 0 in balance and 141 inactive referrals is worth nothing, whatever the amount you can get in multiply BTC bonus.

any1 wants buy freebitco.in acc with 141 referral and bonus of 0.28265318 BTC for playing MULTIPLY BTC
PM me

It does only replace lottery tickets with reward points for free rolls not wagering.

Does disabling lottery tickets also disable them for the Multiply BTC game? I have the option to disable lottery tickets turned on so I receive Reward Points instead, but I just checked the lottery page and it says that I have 7 tickets. I had always assumed that disabling lottery tickets disabled them for the entire website. The only information I could find on the site mentions that lottery is disabled for faucet claims but says nothing about tickets earned from wagering.

Obviously, if it is 10 different people then it isn't abuse. You're trying to make complicated arguments about something that is very simple. Don't self-refer and don't play more than one free roll per hour. That's it.

I mean for case 2 is another 10 new users, so let say it is a Non abusive.

Bringing new customers which are potentially gamblers that bring profit to you. Abuse of the referral system, yes, but 50% correct. Another 50% can proof that someoone with an insanse bot algo + enough bank roll can shut the shop down to bankruptcy. i.e:

1. With a 10 BTC bankroll, split into 10 accounts and User A kick of the betting bot (which is not abusive as declared in your previous posts). As soon as one of the account get REKTED, his earning from another 9 accounts can be used to backup the other to beat the losing streak, and repeat again. What if all these accounts do not claim hourly FREE BTC but gets what it risked for (betting) to get the Reward Points/ exchange BTC + earned profit from betting? I guess it will be "abusive" answer. So, is this a case where you are scared of?

2. Same as above strategy but this time assume 10 of the closed/best friends/trusted with the referer is the team leader which is User A, collectively join the bankroll of 10 BTC (1BTC each and lending/borrowing/transfer back and forth) to bet against your site, all the BTC transfer around on the blockchain itself to gather up as long as a member need it, when he get a losing streak event. Will all of the friends get banned and get marked as abusive of the system? I guess it should be "abusive" "sometime/anytime" since your site is having a risk of losing against gamblers. If it is a non-abusive, then what are the reason why (1) is abusive and (2) is not abusive, since your potential income is 10BTC each case? Assume that both cases the referer will never get any more user into the system (no more level 2 user).

I already have been clear that referring yourself is an abuse of the referral system. It is there to reward you for bringing in new customers not to make referral commissions from yourself. So both of your examples are abusive.

Please be clear what is and isn't abuse, specific to the following case:
Case 1: User A create 1 main account and another 10 accounts refering himself. Deposit into all of these 11 accounts, play multiply on all accounts get RPs Claim free BTC (Not taking into account overall profit/loss). A specific purpose just to gambling against your site.
Case 2: User B create only 1 account, referring different 10 accounts. User B does not deposit a single satoshi, just play for free and get referrals, other 10 accounts selfdom play, some are depositing and may profit/loss.

Yeah, I’m going to be more biased towards hating the site since I can’t get in it anymore (Janet blocks everything, even medical data mining servers get blocked)...

Also thanks, so do I credits to MadZ for it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/madz-174480.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight,  more snakeoil lies.  "Small cases of abuse" is it.  What about the LEGIT referrers getting snubbed out by these assclowns who are losing their ass and being listed as "winners" in the wager "contest" which should actually be relabeled to "Biggest losers contest".  You see people, there is a reason for this.  If the idiots at the top actually WIN,  they'll still lose because they get their account EMPTIED due to "referral cheating".  But if they lose,  nothing happens (to either of their accounts).  In BOTH cases,  REAL referrers are NOT paid what they should be because they were edged out by the cheating mofos.  So for wetback and thequack,  it's a winwin because paying REAL referrers costs more than it does to pay someone whos gambling.  Dont let this assclown sweet talk you into making 2 accounts.  All it does is give them an opportunity to rape you even easier than otherwise (as if its not easy enough as it is).  So the problem with the Lottery simply moved from the Lottery to the "Wagering Contest" and never actually disappeared as these idiots would like you to think.  It's still there and very alive.

Fortunately, most customers don't look at an isolated figure but take into account the overall package and they see that we are very competitive with the plain low edge sites. Judging by the volume of business we do compared to them our approach is very popular.
You are right that we aren't going looking for small cases of abuse like that. We're far too busy dealing with people with hundreds or thousands of accounts.

BTW. I like the new avatar.

LMFAO.  More lies.  Dude doesnt realize he f'd up when he suggested using 2 accounts to recreate a feature that really should exist already but does not because this shithole enjoys stealing people's BTC due to mistakes and other non-sense of the sort.  He also fails to mention that if someone wins and they used their own referral,  it opens the door for them to conveniently say "opps,  to bad,  you still lose because you abused the referral system".  But the fact that they havent done that yet just goes to prove that these people are not winning in the first place anyway.