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It would be. That's why we don't do it.



It is an indication that the selective action we have taken has been effectively targetted on abusive accounts and very few legitimate users have been affected. Compared to the support requests I had earlier this year when wetsuit tried a different method I have had hardly any requests from real users this time, just a few botters trying it on.

@kakmakr

I tried to help people around me but also tried to recover my income from referrals
I just want TheQuin to be careful in removing botnets so that the original user is not affected.
isn't it ridiculous if freebitco.in blacklisted ISPs with very many customers.
but I am just like an astronaut who has a point where I will not be able to return

thank you for your suggestion, but what is the difference between my account and the new account that I might make


@TheQuin

I'm surprised you look proud of the 50% decline in traffic and free rolls of games even though the wager volume remains the same
I think free roll is the beginning for someone to recognize your site and various features in it
and the wager volume is likely to come from people who already feel the pleasure of free rolls so they decide to make a deposit and no longer interested in free rolls

as you said before that if they gamble continuously then they will lose by house edge
so sooner or later I think they will stop because they run out of money or get bored because they are losing.

I think you will always need new customers so that your business continues to grow and grow
but it is precisely now that you close many roads to your site that might generate potential new customers

in my opinion, a decrease in traffic and free rolls of more than 50% is an early indication of the decline in the performance of freebitco.in
I think this is due to the many interesting features that are only for customers who make deposits and bet
and this is compounded by massive blocking of IP addresses
You try to limit the space for botnets, but this also limits the original user space on the same portion
because basically botnets and the original user you will not be able to differentiate even though you sort them manually because the requirements that you request are only email and bitcoin addresses
if you sort it manually and accidentally block or even delete an account that turns out to be a genuine user then this will erode the trust that people have given to your site for about 5 years

but all this is just my opinion
if you feel everything you do is right and feels everything that is happening is on the right track then you can just ignore it.


@ Jack

right jack, the first number is used by several cities in my country
I could have told TheQuin about one of the ISP's IP addresses but that would only reveal my location rather than recover my income from referrals as my main goal of reporting this
because I think my referrals are people who understand english
maybe they come from various countries, so reporting 1 country won't help me
I just think that if this happens in my country, then most likely this also happens in other countries

I want TheQuin to improve the way to get rid of botnets if what I report makes sense
because if it's like this, they are like farmers who eradicate pests using fire, so the plants will also burn.

So you do suggest to remove their Faucet? That's an impossible thing to be done since Faucet is one of the assets of this gambling site why it became too popular.They do really need get to rid of bots but doesn't mean they will remove faucet. You do love Bots,arent you?

Stopped reading there.  This just goes to prove that these clowns have no idea what they are doing.  Banning IPs is NOT the right way to go about combating bots.  They only need to look at OTHER casinos to figure out how they are doing it.  Simply remove what the bots are after........ problem solved.  Ax the faucet,  its completely useless anyway.  Until then,  they will perpetually be banning IPs and eventually they will have banned the entire internet.  You CANT beat bots.  Just like you cant beat the house.  The more you try to beat the bots,  the worse you're going to lose the battle in the end.  The ONLY way to beat a bot is to remove whatever the bot is after.  Thats the solution.  There is no other solution.  Banning isnt going to solve anything.  Bots are not limited to geographical (nor or they bound by IP ranges) locations but it appears this clown doesnt understand that fact.  Banning an ENTIRE range,  Class C or otherwise is completely LUDICROUS because all thats going to accomplish is the bot moving to a new range.  The bots are NOT going to run out of ranges.  Duuuuuuuuuuuuh.

You may not be able to beat the house,  but the house cant beat the bots.  The house isnt invincible.  Eventually the bots will win in the end and Freebitcrap will have to drop it's faucet.  Once it does so,  there will no longer be a need to ban ips.

I mean when I did it I got a completely different range, the first number was still the same but depending on the depth of the range, Garry could request one out of it. Ranges are used for locations (supposedly), in my country most towns with a population high enough have their own range of first letter,

Free rolls have also declined by 50% but wagering volume has remained the same.



It really depends on how the IP address database has it defined. ISPs usually have many thousands of ranges and they each vary in size. Generally speaking the average range I'm talking about when adding a block is a class C subnet of 254 usable addresses.



Yes, the support email only tells me an account number and obviously the email address associated with it.

TheQuin already said he blocks a range of IP's, if and when it is found that it is abusing the system. A new IP from the same ISP will most probably be in the same range or subnet, so this will not help.

I respect the fact that people do not want to dox themselves, by giving out information that might help people to reveal their true identity, but then they will have to be willing to cut their losses.  

Suggestion : Send a PM from another account or use the support link on the site that are not linked to information on this forum.

@Jack

thank you for your attention Jack, but no
I am not a victim of the IP address blocking that TheQuin has done
I'm just trying to report the news around me that might impact my referrals.
I am not sure about how much this will affect my referrals. because as a user we are not given facilities for that. I only know that my income is decreasing.
I tried to see traffic to freebitco.in through a site like this:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/freebitco.in

we can see that the traffic has fallen by more than 50% in 2 months.
I dare not say that it was caused by a massive blocking carried out by TheQuin because it could also be caused by people's interest in bitcoin has declined.

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@TheQuin

so you block IP addresses at a certain range
based on what I know, if the IP address that you block is the IP address of the Dynamic ISP, it will make thousands or millions (depending on the range you block) of innocent IP addresses victimized because the workings of Dynamic IP addresses are random like the process of creating bitcoin addresses when randomizing the SHA-256 number as a raw private key.
That's if I don't misunderstand the word "range" that you mean.

Thequin has given a fair reasoning there.
@garry, if you want to contact your isp to ask them to give you a new IP address then that might help you and mean you don’t have to hand it over to thequin.
Otherwise, you’ll hav pe to give your IP address to thequin to try to remove you from the database.

More lies by omission.  Par for the course.  Players DO NOT WIN.  They can only be successful using the right tools (https://dlive.tv/btctrading is a good example),  but they certainly CAN NEVER "win" as in coming out on top due to some "contest" or miraculous single bet.  In order to do that,  one would have to come to this shithole,  win enough to be ahead and then NEVER return.  So you're saying thats the type of player you want to use as an example player of the site?  One that no longer even exists?  Ya ok whatever,  thats gotta be GREAT for business lmfao.  Get it straight.  Just because someone gets a SINGLE "win" as you are referring to,  you're ignoring all the LOSSES that they will take or have already taken up to that point.  The "Wagering contest" is a PERFECT example of people who "win" but actually LOSE.  Yet you call them "winners" which is imo utterly disgusting.  That contest needs to be renamed to "The biggest losers contest".  And trying to say "Some of them win" is an out right LIE because it cant be proven whether they won more than they've put in or not.  Therefore the ONLY solution is to assume the MATH got them and they LOST.

Therefore the statement "Some people win" is a complete lie because all it does is try to cover up the fact that 99.99999999999999% of all players LOSE.  Who cares if there has been 1 person in the history of the site who came in,  put 100K sats and won with 0.02 odds,  and walked away never to be seen again.  If that has even EVER happened (which I'll wager it has NOT).  If it did happen,  I'd also put money on the fact the player stayed and ended up losing it all,  including the 100K sats they put in right along with it.  Therefore,  even that player is a loser,  not a "winner" as you would label it.

This means that the statement "The house always wins in the end" is 100% ACCURATE.  There is no asterisk necessary with "some people do win" because thats just FALSE.  You could replace it with "some people are successful" though because that doesnt insinuate that they always win.  It also means they could have taken losses but despite those losses,  they have been successful,  for the time being.  Anyone whos been in business knows that it takes losses in order to be successful.  This is why when you ask a wealthy person who owns a business how they "won",  they'd look at you like you were completely stupid and say "You mean successful?".

Look at it this way.  Your odds of "winning" at ANY casino that has a house edge of any kind are less than those of ALL the lotteries in the world.  Combined and multiplied by 100000.  Because your odds of winning are literally 0.  In the end,  its the house that always wins.  Anyone who says otherwise is just lying to you.

As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.

@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

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@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue

It's going very well. This month has had a bit of a runaway leader for a while so less action to follow, but overall good levels again. We don't like to spam too many emails to you 

Also C'mon man, no one says you shoud win, no one says casino is a great way of money making for gamblers, no one says deposit much and much or play here to be rich. All they say is that you have to gamble just for fun, it's another task what you do and what you expect from casino. So don't blame others for it, you do everything on your own.
TheQuin
How is thr contest going? Haven't received email for a while.

That might be true overall but individual players do win as well.

I asked twice but without a clue to even which ISP he's talking about I can't look into the complaint. There are databases of IP addresses with location, ISP and usage type. I can also look at the usage we get from any particular network and it is pretty easy to see where there are large amounts of abuse going on.

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This is not the village idiot's shitbot thread. Please respect the forum rules and go and discuss it somewhere else.

Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic. 

He was betting 7x and it is quite remarkable that only 51 is the longest he managed to get.

lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak

The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.