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Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1436. (Read 565938 times)

legendary
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Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game



Basically, above post didn't answer my questions. You just asking users to believe you guys and buy the tickets. There is no such thing that we can verify what you guys are doing fair or not. Every individual will vouch for themselves saying that they are good. But there should be a system to prove that they are doing good.

So you assume that every user will vouch for themselves, saying they're not cheating. And that FreeBitco.in should have a system to prove that they're not lying?

I think you're losing the audience a bit with this last comment.

Anyway, you requested a response and we gave you one. We offered you the truth, sometimes the truth hurts.

To everyone else...if you can think of a way to make the lottery ticket acquisition process provably fair, we're open to suggestions.

Cheers, friends.

I have a question with related to the topic you are discussing with the guy you quoted.

Why those 105 users that win the first prize didn't bother to share their experience in winning the freebitco lottery here in bitcointalk forum? It's hard to believe that all of them doesn't have a forum account here. It's possible that they don't have an account here but chances are low. Low chances also that those 105 users are not active anymore in your site. And no tx id are being provided. And later there will be the 106th winner.

I understand other thoughts about the lottery. If you can't give at least bright proof there how can we trust your wallet feature? Please don't treat this as criticism as Im just asking a question. Everyone needs an answer.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 255
@MinerHQ, other questions?
Basically, above post didn't answer my questions. You just asking users to believe you guys and buy the tickets. There is no such thing that we can verify what you guys are doing fair or not. Every individual will vouch for themselves saying that they are good. But there should be a system to prove that they are doing good.

So you assume that every user will vouch for themselves, saying they're not cheating. And that FreeBitco.in should have a system to prove that they're not lying?

I think you're losing the audience a bit with this last comment.

Anyway, you requested a response and we gave you one. We offered you the truth, sometimes the truth hurts.

To everyone else...if you can think of a way to make the lottery ticket acquisition process provably fair, we're open to suggestions.

Cheers, friends.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1026
In Search of Incredible
Freebitco.in is te best faucet. But their hi-lo game system is too bad for the high (5%) house edge. As they says it's a bitcoin faucet but their most income comes from gambling.
I have lost my affordable btc here. I'm not reporting about their gambling. I just share my opinion here. I will suggest don't play multiply game here. I think there is not any chance to won big prizes.After playing 5400+ hourly roll I never won 2$,20$,200$ prizes.


We have a well rounded business and most of the income comes from our MULTIPLY BTC game. Only a part of the investments is invested in mining and we have access to sub-5 cent power which gives us a big advantage. Look for username wetsuit at https://slushpool.com/stats/hall-of-fame/ and you can see we have been adding more than 1.5 petahashes of miners every month. I have personally spent over $1.5 million in expanding the mining business and in no way do I need user investments to fund it, I plan to go ahead with expanding it regardless. The investment is just an option to increase user loyalty and also give newbies a chance to grow their faucet income passively.

I hate to break it to you, but there is no way to get a "safe" return of more than 4% a year.

Just a little something to prove that I don't really "need" the investments: http://www.coinig.com/?adr=12Q18uwjHJo13UCws46xKyyeuZomZwdywB&msg=Bitcoin+address+owned+by+bitcointalk+user+wetsuit&sig=G0MOX5pavwdw260GHWeOfiL14on8%2FwF6A8gcFTxyPCxbBJMzT5aN%2Fya%2BFLAhwE9y1f6HitkmqOeDaLWdYZZpCt0%3D
sr. member
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If you want to win every hour in freebitco.in don't be greedy because if you become greedy the amount you win will turn into nothing. I experienced it always due to I can't stop myself betting in any gambling site.

You mean say asking people don't gamble with the amount you received from faucets?

That is correct because firstly you receive a very small amount from each claim and site has a super high house edge then how you can make money from this hi-low game?. Even in a decent house edge site also can't make money with a small amount but with 5% house edge site no way you can win even with your own deposit as well.

I am thinking of joining this website as well as I know the better sides of having that small amount efforlessly. Even having that small amounts from free faucet I will gladly be gratelfull because that's a free bitcoin to be deposited in your wallet. That is not my first experience joining the faucet , but my sad thing had happened from a faucet app is not legit and I wasted my time waiting to achieve that 300k satoshi turns to nothing send to my wallet. Maybe the less amount be earned for this faucet from online web will be used for bettig smaller amounts of gambling games will be fun and lucky profit at all.
legendary
Activity: 2688
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Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game
If you want to win every hour in freebitco.in don't be greedy because if you become greedy the amount you win will turn into nothing. I experienced it always due to I can't stop myself betting in any gambling site.

You mean say asking people don't gamble with the amount you received from faucets?

That is correct because firstly you receive a very small amount from each claim and site has a super high house edge then how you can make money from this hi-low game?. Even in a decent house edge site also can't make money with a small amount but with 5% house edge site no way you can win even with your own deposit as well.

Funny to think that someone will become greedy for that small amount of hourly reward. I will assume that he is talking about faucets since that is the only hourly thing in this site.

Majority of claims landed only at tier 1 to 3 most of the times so can't imagined if someone will think of greedy activity out of that around 60 satoshis hourly reward. Smiley
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legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
If you want to win every hour in freebitco.in don't be greedy because if you become greedy the amount you win will turn into nothing. I experienced it always due to I can't stop myself betting in any gambling site.

You mean say asking people don't gamble with the amount you received from faucets?

That is correct because firstly you receive a very small amount from each claim and site has a super high house edge then how you can make money from this hi-low game?. Even in a decent house edge site also can't make money with a small amount but with 5% house edge site no way you can win even with your own deposit as well.
hero member
Activity: 1134
Merit: 517
REALLY!!! Liking it a lot now a days. Playing each hour and getting atlas $2-$3 per day from the site. It is not much but it is free and thats why it is amazing!! Whoever it is, thats for introducing such a good site. I love it to go on freebitcoin everyday and click that recaptcha and play roll button. Lol. Its HI-LO game however is not that provably favour as it says but I still like it playing. Sometimes I put automatic mode on and it gives me good profits or atlas it doesn't make me loose my money. Good one!

Are you sure you get $2-$3 per day by claiming the faucet only? Logically you can claim 24x per day and the minimum faucet amount is $0.02 = 24 * 0.02 = $0.48 unless you get the 2nd lowest reward $0.2 several times per day. Are you so lucky enough to get $0.2 several times per day?
Of course those are bogus claims, he openly admitted the site is not provably fair, so how would the $2 - $3 per day be possible. Let us face it, this site have seized to have high rollers and it does not also have any major source of income (besides the adverts), so to stay afloat, a lot of things cannot be ruled out to be going on underground.
hero member
Activity: 630
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If you want to win every hour in freebitco.in don't be greedy because if you become greedy the amount you win will turn into nothing. I experienced it always due to I can't stop myself betting in any gambling site.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1083
REALLY!!! Liking it a lot now a days. Playing each hour and getting atlas $2-$3 per day from the site. It is not much but it is free and thats why it is amazing!! Whoever it is, thats for introducing such a good site. I love it to go on freebitcoin everyday and click that recaptcha and play roll button. Lol. Its HI-LO game however is not that provably favour as it says but I still like it playing. Sometimes I put automatic mode on and it gives me good profits or atlas it doesn't make me loose my money. Good one!

Are you sure you get $2-$3 per day by claiming the faucet only? Logically you can claim 24x per day and the minimum faucet amount is $0.02 = 24 * 0.02 = $0.48 unless you get the 2nd lowest reward $0.2 several times per day. Are you so lucky enough to get $0.2 several times per day?


Maybe he have lot of active referrals. Also it's possible that he is very lucky gambler. But it's impossible to earn $2-3 only by claiming from faucet each day.

Even with lots of referrals, reaching that amount without risk is not close to reality. I doubt that all of his referrals is active, even they are, the rewards are low that the word "lots" meaning "really a lots".

To make things clear, claimnants like thatmust provide a proof or else it's just a trolling post here just to have a post count. I will believe if it's on the past as Im earning $1 too with hard work faucets and referrals only but today it's damn hard.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2273
REALLY!!! Liking it a lot now a days. Playing each hour and getting atlas $2-$3 per day from the site. It is not much but it is free and thats why it is amazing!! Whoever it is, thats for introducing such a good site. I love it to go on freebitcoin everyday and click that recaptcha and play roll button. Lol. Its HI-LO game however is not that provably favour as it says but I still like it playing. Sometimes I put automatic mode on and it gives me good profits or atlas it doesn't make me loose my money. Good one!

Are you sure you get $2-$3 per day by claiming the faucet only? Logically you can claim 24x per day and the minimum faucet amount is $0.02 = 24 * 0.02 = $0.48 unless you get the 2nd lowest reward $0.2 several times per day. Are you so lucky enough to get $0.2 several times per day?


Maybe he have lot of active referrals. Also it's possible that he is very lucky gambler. But it's impossible to earn $2-3 only by claiming from faucet each day.
I think what he meant is that faucet was paying more satoshies, compared to today's price of bitcoin it would be 2-3$ every day.
At least i understand it that way, because minimum payout in dollars was always the same, but bitcoin price is changing so is the reward(in bitcoins)
legendary
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I'm not asking them to give me the user details but asking about how they will pick the winner and that system should be fair enough for everyone.

You can't pick one which you may like and it is site responsibility to prove that they are fair enough. If they don't do it then I will say that system is not fair and we shouldn't buy the lottery tickets until we are sure that not cheated from the system.

MinerHQ, answers for you...

There are two different elements here (1) our methodology to drawing the winners and (2) the approach users take toward earning tickets.

(1) Our methodology for drawing the winners is fair, it's a random selection of the available tickets.

(2) The approach to earning tickets each week is impossible to police in a way that guarantees users aren't cheating to acquire tickets.

You can look at both of these elements together and conclude that to be 100% provably fair the system must also guarantee that users aren't cheating. Or you can look at these elements and realize what's realistically possible for us to control.

At this time we can only vouch for ourselves, our own honest approach to ticket selection. We can't vouch for every single user earning tickets.

Here's an example of how users can cheat (this scenario came up recently)...wait, if I do that I risk encouraging more cheating. I can't do that. But if you're concern is really significant, PM me and I'll share some of the details of the scenario.

Most importantly, and as a sign of our devotion to keeping the site as fair as possible - we'll offer a bounty to anyone that can arrive at a way to combat potential cheating, which would eliminate instances where tickets are being generated against our rules.

wetsuit has posted about this in the past, the offer remains open for someone to claim. We're always open to ways to improve the site!

@MinerHQ, other questions?

Basically, above post didn't answer my questions. You just asking users to believe you guys and buy the tickets. There is no such thing that we can verify what you guys are doing fair or not. Every individual will vouch for themselves saying that they are good. But there should be a system to prove that they are doing good. But now I understood that you guys don't have a system to prove your lottery system is fair to prove in public.

Anyway, I'm not buying any more tickets from your site. Becuase I don't trust your selection process and trust only the system which can be proved in a public.
sr. member
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sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 255
I'm not asking them to give me the user details but asking about how they will pick the winner and that system should be fair enough for everyone.

You can't pick one which you may like and it is site responsibility to prove that they are fair enough. If they don't do it then I will say that system is not fair and we shouldn't buy the lottery tickets until we are sure that not cheated from the system.

MinerHQ, answers for you...

There are two different elements here (1) our methodology to drawing the winners and (2) the approach users take toward earning tickets.

(1) Our methodology for drawing the winners is fair, it's a random selection of the available tickets.

(2) The approach to earning tickets each week is impossible to police in a way that guarantees users aren't cheating to acquire tickets.

You can look at both of these elements together and conclude that to be 100% provably fair the system must also guarantee that users aren't cheating. Or you can look at these elements and realize what's realistically possible for us to control.

At this time we can only vouch for ourselves, our own honest approach to ticket selection. We can't vouch for every single user earning tickets.

Here's an example of how users can cheat (this scenario came up recently)...wait, if I do that I risk encouraging more cheating. I can't do that. But if you're concern is really significant, PM me and I'll share some of the details of the scenario.

Most importantly, and as a sign of our devotion to keeping the site as fair as possible - we'll offer a bounty to anyone that can arrive at a way to combat potential cheating, which would eliminate instances where tickets are being generated against our rules.

wetsuit has posted about this in the past, the offer remains open for someone to claim. We're always open to ways to improve the site!

@MinerHQ, other questions?
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1376
Slava Ukraini!
REALLY!!! Liking it a lot now a days. Playing each hour and getting atlas $2-$3 per day from the site. It is not much but it is free and thats why it is amazing!! Whoever it is, thats for introducing such a good site. I love it to go on freebitcoin everyday and click that recaptcha and play roll button. Lol. Its HI-LO game however is not that provably favour as it says but I still like it playing. Sometimes I put automatic mode on and it gives me good profits or atlas it doesn't make me loose my money. Good one!

Are you sure you get $2-$3 per day by claiming the faucet only? Logically you can claim 24x per day and the minimum faucet amount is $0.02 = 24 * 0.02 = $0.48 unless you get the 2nd lowest reward $0.2 several times per day. Are you so lucky enough to get $0.2 several times per day?


Maybe he have lot of active referrals. Also it's possible that he is very lucky gambler. But it's impossible to earn $2-3 only by claiming from faucet each day.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
REALLY!!! Liking it a lot now a days. Playing each hour and getting atlas $2-$3 per day from the site. It is not much but it is free and thats why it is amazing!! Whoever it is, thats for introducing such a good site. I love it to go on freebitcoin everyday and click that recaptcha and play roll button. Lol. Its HI-LO game however is not that provably favour as it says but I still like it playing. Sometimes I put automatic mode on and it gives me good profits or atlas it doesn't make me loose my money. Good one!

Are you sure you get $2-$3 per day by claiming the faucet only? Logically you can claim 24x per day and the minimum faucet amount is $0.02 = 24 * 0.02 = $0.48 unless you get the 2nd lowest reward $0.2 several times per day. Are you so lucky enough to get $0.2 several times per day?

sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 252
REALLY!!! Liking it a lot now a days. Playing each hour and getting atlas $2-$3 per day from the site. It is not much but it is free and thats why it is amazing!! Whoever it is, thats for introducing such a good site. I love it to go on freebitcoin everyday and click that recaptcha and play roll button. Lol. Its HI-LO game however is not that provably favour as it says but I still like it playing. Sometimes I put automatic mode on and it gives me good profits or atlas it doesn't make me loose my money. Good one!
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 504
Though I'm a bit skeptical that I would win 0.07 btc - i think it's only generated to give out the lowest price.
Does anybody already won 0.07btc in here?
To win that amount one should be really lucky to roll 10,000 and chance for it is just 0.01% which is really small but not impossible. There might be some lucky players out there who have got this but I have never got it when I used to claim there in past.
Have you tried gambling your btc on betting?
Yeah it's pretty impossible for you to get that 0.07 price
If you will click the roll for 24 hrs - 365 days the possibility of winning is 0.1%
Many peoples trying for years but they never have this so its need more then year because its very difficult to win this amount if you try on some other site then its may be possible but here is very hard
legendary
Activity: 3808
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Though I'm a bit skeptical that I would win 0.07 btc - i think it's only generated to give out the lowest price.
Does anybody already won 0.07btc in here?
To win that amount one should be really lucky to roll 10,000 and chance for it is just 0.01% which is really small but not impossible. There might be some lucky players out there who have got this but I have never got it when I used to claim there in past.
Have you tried gambling your btc on betting?
Yeah it's pretty impossible for you to get that 0.07 price
If you will click the roll for 24 hrs - 365 days the possibility of winning is 0.1%

Basically its one of those things that's not impossible but highly unlikely to hit it.

IN my opinion there are better deals and promotions out there with other sites. But I guess this is purely a marketing technique.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Though I'm a bit skeptical that I would win 0.07 btc - i think it's only generated to give out the lowest price.
Does anybody already won 0.07btc in here?
To win that amount one should be really lucky to roll 10,000 and chance for it is just 0.01% which is really small but not impossible. There might be some lucky players out there who have got this but I have never got it when I used to claim there in past.
Have you tried gambling your btc on betting?
Yeah it's pretty impossible for you to get that 0.07 price
If you will click the roll for 24 hrs - 365 days the possibility of winning is 0.1%
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