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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 10, 2021, 11:36:55 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 10, 2021, 08:21:04 AM

There could be less interest because there are places that offer much much much more than 4% right now, liquidity providing is doing at least 10% a year and even more for lower level coins, I have seen as much as 17000%, sure that seemed dangerous to me too so I didn't do that Cheesy

. But in the end people trust this place, that is the only reason they keep their money here, that 4% offer is not the main reason because it is really tiny compared to any other place.

Be careful man 17000% isn't called a investment, it's called a HYIP and that usually turns into a total loss of the initial investment at the end. Undecided

So feel free to quote the serious places you're talking about that offer earnings above 4% APY in BTC please. Because I disagree with you, 4% APY in BTC is one the biggest rates you can find on internet for a serious investment plan.

Average investments returns like 4% APY are much more preferable than those ones which offer rates and rewards too good to be true. These are the first signs the investment isn't sustainable and that it won't last for too long. However I understand people who think rates like 4% are low, because they can't make much profit from it with a low budget.
All people have to do is to save maximum as possible and at some point they will have enough money to make a 4% APY investment worth for them. And I'm not talking only about bitcoin investment, but even fiat ones, which also pay similar rates.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 10, 2021, 08:21:04 AM

There could be less interest because there are places that offer much much much more than 4% right now, liquidity providing is doing at least 10% a year and even more for lower level coins, I have seen as much as 17000%, sure that seemed dangerous to me too so I didn't do that Cheesy

. But in the end people trust this place, that is the only reason they keep their money here, that 4% offer is not the main reason because it is really tiny compared to any other place.

Be careful man 17000% isn't called an investment, it's called a HYIP and that usually turns into a total loss of the initial investment at the end. Undecided

So feel free to quote the serious places you're talking about that offer earnings above 4% APY in BTC please. Because I disagree with you, 4% APY in BTC is one of the biggest rates you can find on internet for a serious investment plan.

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Quote from: Taskford on March 10, 2021, 05:43:00 AM

But its a big problem for gamblers to have a huge fee brought by bitcoins and if they will never take an action towards this issue maybe there are small time players will quit since they can't afford to pay huge fees for just playing here, maybe the best solution to implement is the lightning network and also its good to have an option like adding LTC since its also good to have, just disregard the name since it already got a reputation and players doesn't care about the essence of the name since majority wants convenience.

Yeah that's the shout of the masses we always heard not just from gambling sites but almost on all aspects. I really think they need to have some alternative sooner or later and I think freebitco.in can do it.

Quote from: BitcoinzB on March 10, 2021, 08:50:14 AM

Hello, I've been a long time user of freebitco.in and I was wondering if you would consider lowering the minimum amount of reward points to be exchanged at one time, 100.000 seems a bit too high imo

I think it can't be changed since RP doesn't rely on something like btc price. It was stable since then, unless you're trying to take the opportunity when they got multiplier promotion for reward points that could even get to x5 x10 or make sure you really have to claim all those free RP within 24 hours which is pretty hectic AFAIK.

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Quote from: Taskford on March 10, 2021, 05:43:00 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on March 10, 2021, 04:53:06 AM

Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 05:01:53 PM

They need to start looking at alternatives. And LN's the best bet.

Will they looked at Litecoin at least considering it's the identical to bitcoin and has low fee and faster execution. The thing is will they still see as freebitco.in? Well, I know this was just a domain name but this issue of transaction fees will have to be addressed first. Lightning Network was the best option to take since a gambling site doesn't profit from just transaction fee from withdrawal and deposits.

But its a big problem for gamblers to have a huge fee brought by bitcoins and if they will never take an action towards this issue maybe there are small time players will quit since they can't afford to pay huge fees for just playing here, maybe the best solution to implement is the lightning network and also its good to have an option like adding LTC since its also good to have, just disregard the name since it already got a reputation and players doesn't care about the essence of the name since majority wants convenience.

If users deposit BTC from an exchange, they can have problems with huge BTC fees because exchanges usually set inadequate fees (50-100k sats) for BTC withdrawal, but if users use their wallets, then 3-4k sats will be enough to transfer BTC. Anyway, I guess freebitcoin doesn't have any plan to add other cryptocurrencies to their platform.

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Hello, I've been a long time user of freebitco.in and I was wondering if you would consider lowering the minimum amount of reward points to be exchanged at one time, 100.000 seems a bit too high imo

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Quote from: soslex on March 08, 2021, 08:08:05 PM

They tell you what they do with the bitcoin you store there on the FAQ page of the EARN tab. I'm not sure how accurate all the information is because it hasn't been updated in a while and I remember TheQuin saying a few pages back that it is a little outdated but it at least gives you some idea of what is happening behind the scenes:

"How do you make money to pay us interest?

When you hold money in your FreeBitco.in account, we split it into 3 parts - the first part is used to cover user withdrawals, the second part is used to bankroll our MULTIPLY BTC game and the third part is used to expand our bitcoin mining operation (which is currently 9.065Petahashes or 0.007% of the total hashpower of the bitcoin network). We make a profit and assume the full risks of our businesses and in return for you saving your money with us, we give you a risk-free fixed rate of return."

It is obvious that they are using it to profit themselves in order to give us some returns as well from what you can see there. Mining and bankroll all important, they make money from mining and they do make money from gamblers who lose here, and they are capable of providing a lot bigger wagering thanks to the money we have in our accounts, that is why I believe it is quite obvious that they are profiting from this and because they are profiting from it they are still providing the interest.

There could be less interest because there are places that offer much much much more than 4% right now, liquidity providing is doing at least 10% a year and even more for lower level coins, I have seen as much as 17000%, sure that seemed dangerous to me too so I didn't do that Cheesy

. But in the end people trust this place, that is the only reason they keep their money here, that 4% offer is not the main reason because it is really tiny compared to any other place.

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Quote from: freebitco.in PR on March 09, 2021, 07:58:32 AM

We Need a New Logo for FUN Token!

Would you like to shape the future of FUN Token? Here's your chance to do so!

LAUNCHING... A LOGO DESIGN CONTEST

Come up with logo designs for FUN that will represent the best the token has to offer!

Here are the prizes for designing the winning logo:

1. 50,000 FUN
2. 25,000 FUN
3. 15,000 FUN

So, are you ready?

Be creative. Be original. Be innovative. Send in your designs to [email protected]

5 entries will be shortlisted for a final vote by FreeBitco.in Premium Members.

Deadline: Friday, 19th March, 12:00 UTC

I think it's better to open a separate thread for this contest in the Games and Rounds section. The prizes are good, up to 0.0315 BTC in FUN, so it will surely draw some attention, while here far fewer people will notice it.

Also, if we can see the works of the contestants, it brings more fun to the game.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on March 10, 2021, 04:53:06 AM

Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 05:01:53 PM

They need to start looking at alternatives. And LN's the best bet.

Will they looked at Litecoin at least considering it's the identical to bitcoin and has low fee and faster execution. The thing is will they still see as freebitco.in? Well, I know this was just a domain name but this issue of transaction fees will have to be addressed first. Lightning Network was the best option to take since a gambling site doesn't profit from just transaction fee from withdrawal and deposits.

But its a big problem for gamblers to have a huge fee brought by bitcoins and if they will never take an action towards this issue maybe there are small time players will quit since they can't afford to pay huge fees for just playing here, maybe the best solution to implement is the lightning network and also its good to have an option like adding LTC since its also good to have, just disregard the name since it already got a reputation and players doesn't care about the essence of the name since majority wants convenience.

rhomelmabini

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Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 05:01:53 PM

They need to start looking at alternatives. And LN's the best bet.

Will they looked at Litecoin at least considering it's the identical to bitcoin and has low fee and faster execution. The thing is will they still see as freebitco.in? Well, I know this was just a domain name but this issue of transaction fees will have to be addressed first. Lightning Network was the best option to take since a gambling site doesn't profit from just transaction fee from withdrawal and deposits.

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Quote from: NABiT on March 09, 2021, 11:13:41 AM

Quote from: Yogee on March 09, 2021, 09:58:38 AM

Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 07:57:46 AM

Hey, are there any plans to add LN deposits and withdrawals on the site? Its getting expensive to move btc.
If so, Is there an ETA?

I'm not sure if there is any interest since I only saw "lightning network" mentioned twice in this thread when I searched and those were back in 2018.

LN was briefly mentioned last month.

"I've finally persuaded wetsuit to take a serious look at LN. It came from a discussion we had recently about our dust problem (229 BTC that's too expensive to consolidate).

First, we'll add Lightning Network deposits and after that's been running for a while we'll start charging a very small fee for sub 30,000 deposits via the blockchain to pay for the consolidation."

TheQuinn

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56287309

Thanks for the info!

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Quote from: Yogee on March 09, 2021, 09:58:38 AM

Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 07:57:46 AM

Hey, are there any plans to add LN deposits and withdrawals on the site? Its getting expensive to move btc.
If so, Is there an ETA?

I'm not sure if there is any interest since I only saw "lightning network" mentioned twice in this thread when I searched and those were back in 2018. It looks like they do not even plan to support segwit.

The fees are quite low now by the way so you may want to take advantage of that. The high priority right now according to mempool.space is 20 sats/vb.

Its the deposits that are expensive, 20-40k sats per deposit is expensive. And it's bound to get more expensive as price of btc go up.
They need to start looking at alternatives. And LN's the best bet.

Withdrawals are still cheap If I chose to go with slow withdrawals. But it won't last as so imo.

Cremi

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I think the luck draw hourly number payout for the first category is just 1 satoshi which should be increased atleast to couple of satoshi. Though if required can reduce from the last 2 high category numbers so that it can be sort of compensated and help the normal users to have some sort of which they occasionally pic on hourly basis.

at the moment its 4 satoshi not 1 ( if you keep a minimum balance of 500.000 satoshi)

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Thanks for the link NABiT. It's strange that I still get the same result when I tried the search bar again.

GhostStories, here's the answer to your ETA question.

Quote from: TheQuin on February 07, 2021, 03:12:05 AM

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This isn't something that's going to happen immediately because there is a lot of work involved in making sure it is both reliable and secure.

There is no date given as you can see since it's hard to put a timeline on something that needs to be tested thoroughly.

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Quote from: Yogee on March 09, 2021, 09:58:38 AM

Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 07:57:46 AM

Hey, are there any plans to add LN deposits and withdrawals on the site? Its getting expensive to move btc.
If so, Is there an ETA?

I'm not sure if there is any interest since I only saw "lightning network" mentioned twice in this thread when I searched and those were back in 2018.

LN was briefly mentioned last month.

"I've finally persuaded wetsuit to take a serious look at LN. It came from a discussion we had recently about our dust problem (229 BTC that's too expensive to consolidate).

First, we'll add Lightning Network deposits and after that's been running for a while we'll start charging a very small fee for sub 30,000 deposits via the blockchain to pay for the consolidation."

TheQuinn

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56287309

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Quote from: GhostStories on March 09, 2021, 07:57:46 AM

Hey, are there any plans to add LN deposits and withdrawals on the site? Its getting expensive to move btc.
If so, Is there an ETA?

I'm not sure if there is any interest since I only saw "lightning network" mentioned twice in this thread when I searched and those were back in 2018. It looks like they do not even plan to support segwit.

The fees are quite low now by the way so you may want to take advantage of that. The high priority right now according to mempool.space is 20 sats/vb.

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We Need a New Logo for FUN Token!

Would you like to shape the future of FUN Token? Here's your chance to do so!

LAUNCHING... A LOGO DESIGN CONTEST

Come up with logo designs for FUN that will represent the best the token has to offer!

Here are the prizes for designing the winning logo:

1. 50,000 FUN
2. 25,000 FUN
3. 15,000 FUN

So, are you ready?

Be creative. Be original. Be innovative. Send in your designs to [email protected]

5 entries will be shortlisted for a final vote by FreeBitco.in Premium Members.

Deadline: Friday, 19th March, 12:00 UTC

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Hey, are there any plans to add LN deposits and withdrawals on the site? Its getting expensive to move btc.
If so, Is there an ETA?

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Quote from: soslex on March 08, 2021, 08:08:05 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 08, 2021, 01:58:10 PM

They "might" make profit from the interest as well, you are leaving your money in there and that is an incentive, and the more money stays there would mean they could use that for more profits, they could use it for something, could be mining, could be something else, I don't know how because if I did, I would offer the same and get people to invest to me, but I can't, hence I do not think that I can give you the answers but I think they could still profit from it.

They tell you what they do with the bitcoin you store there on the FAQ page of the EARN tab. I'm not sure how accurate all the information is because it hasn't been updated in a while and I remember TheQuin saying a few pages back that it is a little outdated but it at least gives you some idea of what is happening behind the scenes:

"How do you make money to pay us interest?

When you hold money in your FreeBitco.in account, we split it into 3 parts - the first part is used to cover user withdrawals, the second part is used to bankroll our MULTIPLY BTC game and the third part is used to expand our bitcoin mining operation (which is currently 9.065Petahashes or 0.007% of the total hashpower of the bitcoin network). We make a profit and assume the full risks of our businesses and in return for you saving your money with us, we give you a risk-free fixed rate of return."

Yes, they have extra activities to earn revenue from besides gambling dice game. It seems Freebitco.in made good choices along the years and were very benefited by bitcoin pumps, being around since 2013, as @hd49728 said above. Freebitco.in also claims they can reduce the interest rate at any moment if they feel it's necessary for some reason.
So far they have been a very transparent company, alive for a long time already and never promising unrealistic rewards to their users. I feel more confident on them because of this.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 08, 2021, 01:58:10 PM

They "might" make profit from the interest as well, you are leaving your money in there and that is an incentive, and the more money stays there would mean they could use that for more profits, they could use it for something, could be mining, could be something else, I don't know how because if I did, I would offer the same and get people to invest to me, but I can't, hence I do not think that I can give you the answers but I think they could still profit from it.

Same goes for FUN tokens, they could offer more stuff, better HE, better interest rate whatever and they could still profit from it. All I wanted to say is that it could be a "loss" because there are costs for the casino, not that I believe it is a loss for them, it is definitely a profit, and I think you are right that they wouldn't do something that doesn't profit them, I just wanted to say it must be profiting them something.

You are correct that gambling sites or exchanges give investment pool, services to bring win-win situations for their companies and customers. Customers must know what they are doing with their money: choose a good company with high trust and good reputation to use, to store money, to invest.

FreeBitco.in is a trusted gambling site and it has been in the online gambling industry for many years, almost 1 decade: since October 2013.

Customers have to have own investment schedule and have a saving or preventive capital for urgent use in lives. I never recommend anyone to use all life saving or make big loan to invest in crypto or in anything. It is gamble with their lives.

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