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Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 753. (Read 565470 times)

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@justme_gamblin You are not fooling anyone by making a newbie account to spread the same lies and sling the same mud you just did in your real account. Unlike your unsubstantiated bullshit the allegations against you come with evidence of criminal activity on your part:
[Flag] - "broke_tradah" installing hidden backdoor.

I think people should go that one step further and also DT distrust these users via the [Link] then placing

Code:
~justme_gamblin
~broke_tradah

as there is evidence they are attempting to build a default trust via their various alts.

And tag it as an ALT account.

He posted this from his real account and everyone ignored him because of his reputation of being an untrustworthy obnoxious troll.

Well remembered but I'm not sure why you are discounting that they might have actually won a lot of Bitcoins.

Sup TheQuack:  Winning less than one has lost is not considered winning or being successful which is what the post was referring to.  So "Why" are they discounting it?  Because they are not out to shill FBC with unreasonable thoughts.  It's unreasonable to assume that this person won anything at all due to the high house edge of FBC and the amount of LONG time the account ID has been seen (if it was an actual account of course which no one can prove or disprove including you lol).  As you said yourself, the longer one plays, the more LIKELY they are to lose.  So there you have it,  the "Why" of why someone would assume they lost instead of won using your own speeches on gambling and lengths of time.

As for how someone gambles this much BTC,  thats an interesting subject to discuss.  IMO these are likely not legit BTC.  If you take a look you can see that many addresses that have deposited into known FBC addresses come from known hacked BTC addresses (there are monitors you can look at online to see this or you can research it yourself).  It's common knowledge that one of the MANY ways to filter/disperse stolen/hacked BTC is to use gambling sites (FBC isnt the only one that is used for this purpose but it is among the top 3), tumblers, anonymous exchanges,  etc.  They all serve the same purpose and it's mostly just personal preference as to which one someone may use.  The other option is that this isnt a real account at all and is just a dummy account by FBC itself.  All of these are plausible explanations as to how anyone would put this much BTC on the line for next to no return at all.

It is far too much of a coincidence for anyone to believe that another newbie just came along and made the same claim.

I think the player just got carried away by adrenaline.

Actually the more likely scenario as that of mixing stolen BTC.  No one in their right mind (other than a hacker who is playing with free BTC) is going to gamble away the amount of BTC seen here (It would take 188 to 800BTC to pull off wagering 4000+BTC).  It's a pretty well known fact (provable with the BTC ledger) that FBC is used as sort of a mixer for those that like to play with other people's BTC.  They dont care if they win or lose so long as they get back mixed BTC.  Anonymous casinos are just one of a plethora of options for mixing BTC,  its mostly just personal preference on which options a hacker will use.  Some use multiple options, others dont.  The end result is still the same.  Mixed BTC.  Note that it's MIXED and not "cleaned" BTC.  There is no such thing as "cleaned" BTC since it's not a privacy coin like Monero.  The idea is to mix BTC so much with "clean" BTC that by the time someone tries to block or blacklist it (if its consolidated into a single or only a few addresses),  it's to late and would affect others who had nothing to do with the theft to begin with (including themselves).


He using an ALT to hide from his flag and try and fool people into taking him seriously.

On the subject of illegitimate BTC anyone using freebitco.in as a mixer is a fool. If approached by a law enforcement agency with evidence of wrongdoing we would help them put together the deposits and withdrawals. For real anonymity they need to use a service designed for the purpose that doesn't keep any logs.

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@justme_gamblin You are not fooling anyone by making a newbie account to spread the same lies and sling the same mud you just did in your real account. Unlike your unsubstantiated bullshit the allegations against you come with evidence of criminal activity on your part:
[Flag] - "broke_tradah" installing hidden backdoor.

I think people should go that one step further and also DT distrust these users via the [Link] then placing

Code:
~justme_gamblin
~broke_tradah

as there is evidence they are attempting to build a default trust via their various alts.
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.
You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance.
I understand that winner may have started with a small amount and got very lucky and gambled a lot of money. But we are talking about a long standing amount of gambling, not like he gambled once and got lucky, we are talking about him gambling thousands every month, that is a lot of money.

This is why it is a shock to many people and most of us have hard time believing this dude started with a few bitcoins at best and managed to reach to 4000+ bitcoins wagered, that is still in the possibility of what could happen, but we are still talking about something that would require a few miracles in a row. Obviously you know what you are talking about and we do not, you can see what he deposited and we do not, which is why we can't say this happened or that happened because we all would be guessing it. However you should also realize how hard it is for us to understand something like a few bitcoins turning into few thousand bitcoin wagering.

The one thing they did to help keep the winning streak going for so long was to make very few rolls each day. Someone using auto-bet or a script would have made the same number of bets they did in 3 months in 1 day. The smaller the sample size the bigger the chance of variance occurring. That can obviously work against you as well.



@justme_gamblin You are not fooling anyone by making a newbie account to spread the same lies and sling the same mud you just did in your real account. Unlike your unsubstantiated bullshit the allegations against you come with evidence of criminal activity on your part:
[Flag] - "broke_tradah" installing hidden backdoor.

Edit:

There really isn't anything anyone here wants to say to you here other than this:

I have supported this flag, and it is now active... peddling a bot with claims of "guaranteed" winning is one thing... peddling malware designed to steal usernames/passwords and wallet files is a completely different level of scum. Undecided

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I think the player just got carried away by adrenaline.

Actually the more likely scenario as that of mixing stolen BTC.  No one in their right mind (other than a hacker who is playing with free BTC) is going to gamble away the amount of BTC seen here (It would take 188 to 800BTC to pull off wagering 4000+BTC).  It's a pretty well known fact (provable with the BTC ledger) that FBC is used as sort of a mixer for those that like to play with other people's BTC.  They dont care if they win or lose so long as they get back mixed BTC.  Anonymous casinos are just one of a plethora of options for mixing BTC,  its mostly just personal preference on which options a hacker will use.  Some use multiple options, others dont.  The end result is still the same.  Mixed BTC.  Note that it's MIXED and not "cleaned" BTC.  There is no such thing as "cleaned" BTC since it's not a privacy coin like Monero.  The idea is to mix BTC so much with "clean" BTC that by the time someone tries to block or blacklist it (if its consolidated into a single or only a few addresses),  it's to late and would affect others who had nothing to do with the theft to begin with (including themselves).
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.
You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance.
I understand that winner may have started with a small amount and got very lucky and gambled a lot of money. But we are talking about a long standing amount of gambling, not like he gambled once and got lucky, we are talking about him gambling thousands every month, that is a lot of money.

This is why it is a shock to many people and most of us have hard time believing this dude started with a few bitcoins at best and managed to reach to 4000+ bitcoins wagered, that is still in the possibility of what could happen, but we are still talking about something that would require a few miracles in a row. Obviously you know what you are talking about and we do not, you can see what he deposited and we do not, which is why we can't say this happened or that happened because we all would be guessing it. However you should also realize how hard it is for us to understand something like a few bitcoins turning into few thousand bitcoin wagering.

I think I would not be able to make a bet of 400Bitcoin, it is that only with a fraction of 4 Bitcoin is already too much, a person who makes this type of bets must be a whale that has a lot of bitcoin, you must have a lot of security to risk losing So much money, that type of player that I admire, just thinking about betting that huge amount already scares me. Although Freebitco.in gambling is so easy and makes you play and play, I think the player just got carried away by adrenaline.
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Man, in fact, I absolutely agree with you ... Just recently, I decided to test the doubling strategy, (if you can call it that) but it didn't end as I expected. I assumed that using a 47% chance, and doubling the rate in case of a loss will sooner or later pay for itself, but I could not imagine that with such a high probability I will have 10 losses in a row. So from my experience I can say that not everything depends on statistics.

lol, the "doubling strategy" has a name: martingale
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.
You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance.
I understand that winner may have started with a small amount and got very lucky and gambled a lot of money. But we are talking about a long standing amount of gambling, not like he gambled once and got lucky, we are talking about him gambling thousands every month, that is a lot of money.

This is why it is a shock to many people and most of us have hard time believing this dude started with a few bitcoins at best and managed to reach to 4000+ bitcoins wagered, that is still in the possibility of what could happen, but we are still talking about something that would require a few miracles in a row. Obviously you know what you are talking about and we do not, you can see what he deposited and we do not, which is why we can't say this happened or that happened because we all would be guessing it. However you should also realize how hard it is for us to understand something like a few bitcoins turning into few thousand bitcoin wagering.
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Doubling strategy just the words makes me fear the worst for your chances of a gain vs the risk of loss.   Doubling anything gets expensive fast, offer 2 cents to someone & on some condition  to double it every day you will by end of month owe them 21 million

Golden tickets from the wheel of fortune is about 40k to 1 odds for the largest 50 tickets but overall about 5700 to 1 for any golden ticket which is likely a bit over once a year for the top premium holder.   The Rolex win I would not estimate anyone has won yet as its just 1 ticket out of 1 billion,  It probably does happen in the end because of the amount of spins attempted but will be notable when it happens.  My best hope is for the golden tickets and then to be very lucky on that :p

As far as this end month price bet deal, we got such a rise ignited I wonder whats powering it but I would guess we magnetise to the 50 day average as the point of most significance shared which is 56 or 57k so once reached it could be pivotal I guess.  I dont think we especially then get as great movement before month end so we end in this region.
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You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance.

Doing math isnt called "schoolboy" anything.  It's just facts.  You cant dispute math.  FBC makes the SAME bet,  it bets that you'll lose before you ever wager 25x.  Otherwise it would have set it's "Bonus account" to a much HIGHER percentage.  It's set at 25% because thats what the math dictates is most likely to happen for it's own benefit.  Thats just common sense.  No "variance" garbage needed.  Besides,  thinking about it any other way is just fantasy and THAT would be the schoolboy error.  I've seen your replies in here and you ALWAYS push the "could have been lucky" excuse every time,  as if you're a huge FBC shill or something,  trying to get people to believe things that are just unrealistic.  I dont do things that way,  I live in reality where I DONT plan on winning lotteries, I dont plan on winning in gambling, and I certainly dont tell others to expect to win either.  Those that are faced with opposition,  usually resort to the "variance" excuse,  which is just that,  it's an excuse.  "Variance" exists in EVERYTHING.  For example,  if time lasts long enough,  it's possible that a fully functional Lambo, complete with logo and a nice paint job would just fall together all by itself.  That is "variance".  Just like it's possible to deposit 1 sat and end up winning all the way to 4000BTC without ever losing.  So trying to base things off "Variance" is completely absurd.  It exists,  but is it practical or realistic to use it as the basis for estimations and probabilities?  No absolutely NOT .  It makes more sense to use common sense math such as what I've already described.  It's simple,  easy to understand, and has a very high probability of being reasonably and more importantly commonsensically close to the truth.

The one that did the "Schoolboy" thinking here is YOU because as I ALREADY MENTIONED,  TIME was a huge factor with this particular "user".  They clearly played for over a LONG time evidenced by the daily/weekly wins,
 etc and when you play for a longer period of time, "variance" becomes less of a factor and house edge plays a greater role.  Play long enough and even house edge isnt going to save you from the inevitable breaking the bank.  It was even evident with this particular user that they mysteriously stopped playing (geeeeee I wonder why that is lol).  When a gambler like this stops,  it's NOT because they won.  It's because they cant play anymore.  Now, if they made 1 HUGE bet (which you cant do in FBC due to it's 20BTC limit),  then variance would play a major role,  more so than house edge.  So ya,  you can go back to school now since you just got schooled in how variance works, what it is, and it's relevance (or lack thereof) to estimation and to a large degree probability formulas Tongue.
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Using the same logic you might think that within 100k tries you are definitely going to hit a 0.01% target at least once(because it "should" happen once in 10k tries). But this is not necessarily the case. Some gamblers lose big money relying on such wrong calculations.
Man, in fact, I absolutely agree with you ... Just recently, I decided to test the doubling strategy, (if you can call it that) but it didn't end as I expected. I assumed that using a 47% chance, and doubling the rate in case of a loss will sooner or later pay for itself, but I could not imagine that with such a high probability I will have 10 losses in a row. So from my experience I can say that not everything depends on statistics.
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I already transferred with the lowest fee available on Betfury (BTC0.000075) to Freebitco.in and I'm just hoping it clears before the offer expires Grin
me too, i also just did this, transferring my Bitcoin from Betfury with a cheap fee.  i bought FUN tokens with those BTC, well even though the nominal is still small but hopefully it can make it easier for me to bet on Freebitco.

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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.

You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance.

I was going to say the same thing. Overall, assuming that with wagering a certain amount you are definitely going to lose the house edge is a dangerous thing to do. Using the same logic you might think that within 100k tries you are definitely going to hit a 0.01% target at least once(because it "should" happen once in 10k tries). But this is not necessarily the case. Some gamblers lose big money relying on such wrong calculations. The truth is that even a million rolls might not be enough for one person, while another one can hit it from the first try. With 42 million registered users you can be getting both cases quite often.
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Everyone's still on the Lambo winner's BTC bets Grin

If you haven't noticed yet (or a reminder to those who already knew), deposit bonus for 10 free WOF is still up. You have 28 hours left to complete the task and claim the reward.

I already transferred with the lowest fee available on Betfury (BTC0.000075) to Freebitco.in and I'm just hoping it clears before the offer expires Grin

Almost 3 million Golden tickets, that's just insane... if only he does an AMA like the winner from one of the previous rounds Grin

Just got my $1 deposit credited, and received more raffle tickets and reward points than Sats. Best investment ever huehue
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Everyone's still on the Lambo winner's BTC bets Grin

If you haven't noticed yet (or a reminder to those who already knew), deposit bonus for 10 free WOF is still up. You have 28 hours left to complete the task and claim the reward.

I already transferred with the lowest fee available on Betfury (BTC0.000075) to Freebitco.in and I'm just hoping it clears before the offer expires Grin
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.

You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance.
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If you want a free Wheel of Fortune bonus in proportion of your deposit amount, you just need to convert your BTC amount in FUN tokens and to deposit them on Freebitcoin. With only 5000 FUN you'll get immediately 3 WOF free rolls each day, with 50 000 you'll get 7 rolls, and with 500 000, 13 rolls...

there is a huge difference between depositing bitcoin in this site and having it sit there safely and even generate some profit and converting the precious bitcoin to a token that is volatile in nature and has a chance of going down in price so my bitcoins could be partially lost.
Yes but you can buy FUN tokens AND deposit BTCs on your freebitcoin account.
Moreover freebitcoin doesn't create bitcoins from nowhere. To give BTCs to people they need to earn them first and if we don't support them by gambling on their platform or by buying their tokens, it will result in a net loss for them to give us coins. If we want more coins from freebitcoin we need to support them.
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has a chance of going down in price so my bitcoins could be partially lost.

Its worth mulling this question over on prospects and possible price accumulation should benefits prove valid, I wonder even if BTC could go down and FUN rise to compensate for the fall in value perhaps one day but this token has usage so its not the torturous risk others seem to perceive and fear.   Really the highest utility is going to be with the biggest gamblers and so this is the scenario to consider for balance in price.   Its very nice that they made it give out immediate bonus wheel of fortune spins on purchase because that is a good plus for the little holders which is most of us.   Also alot of people dont intend to hold crypto a year, they think about a month ahead to gamble the bill money on something before its due natural leverage everyone has this; hence the market is always going to be volatile we get alot of day trippers in crypto I reckon.
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.
200mil / 50K == 4000 BTC wagered (roughly)

Since we know that 25x is about the MAX one could wager at the point where you lose EVERYTHING (based on 5% house edge),  we'll use 25x to guestimate the deposit (or deposit total in the case of multiple deposits).

4000 / 25x == 160 BTC.

So,  160 is about the SMALLEST we could guestimate his deposit was and we could also assume that they lost it ALL since 25x is just to high (otherwise 25x wouldnt be FBC's "bonus account" bet against you).

If you go with a CONSERVATIVE guess in a scenerio where they could have actually WON (as the owner insinuated),  we would use something reasonable like 5x

4000 / 5x == 800BTC

Now check the known FBC addresses and see if you can find deposits that are around these amounts..  If you cant find them,  then you'd have to question if this was even a real account at all.  If you do find them,  well,  then you now have the exact amounts Tongue

So my guess would be between 160 and 800.  What we do know is that the HOT WALLET doesnt have anything NEAR these amounts.  So you'd see BTC in huge amounts going from the hot wallet to their cold storage addresses.




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