Topic: freebitco.in an actual scam - page 3. (Read 15101 times)
See, no matter what you say, that guy always have excuses, nobody is going to random the client seed every bet especially when you are doing autobet,that becomes impossible. You guys keep changing the server seed every bet just because you guys want to manipulate the results. Or please give me one reason for doing that lol. Lots of dice casino especially this site try to make it harder for people to play fairly by designing the system to their benifits. Most of the people don't know and won't change client seeds which makes the casino super easy to cheat, even if you want to change it, you have to change it every bet because the server seeds do. Always trying to take advantage of players. Garbage casino industry!!!
Why is this topic "alive" in micro earnings category...?
Because people keep bumping it like you just did.
Why is this topic "alive" in micro earnings category...?
Yes it can, because the server seed changes every bet,
Did you really just say that the server knows the client seed because the server seed changes every bet?
so unless you do the same to the client seed which is too tedious, the client seed will remain the same, it's so easy to tell the client seed from last bet.
It is too tedious to click randomize client seed?
And i believe the reason server seed changes every bet is, this site is trying to selectively choose server seed based on last client seed to make the number locate in the range they want.
You believe wrong again. There are two different implementations of provably fair both with pros and cons and opinion is divided as to which is best. The usage of those two systems is as divided between dice sites as opinions. Whether the nonce is applied to a static server seed or not doesn't change the fact that it is provably fair and that means if it was manipulated you would be able to prove it. How about you try doing that rather than just shouting your mouth off calling scam with no evidence?
Yes it can, because the server seed changes every bet, so unless you do the same to the client seed which is too tedious, the client seed will remain the same, it's so easy to tell the client seed from last bet. And i believe the reason server seed changes every bet is, this site is trying to selectively choose server seed based on last client seed to make the number locate in the range they want.
Ok since you mentioned your provably fair system so many times, i actually did a little research and found freebitco.in changes their server seed every bet which means unless you change your client seed every bet which is tedious, the system already knows your seed and can selectively choose the next server seed to make the number locate in any range they want. Telling me about fair lmao, why do you keep changing your server seed?
No. The server doesn't know your seed as it is generated by your device.
Ok since you mentioned your provably fair system so many times, i actually did a little research and found freebitco.in changes their server seed every bet which means unless you change your client seed every bet which is tedious, the system already knows your seed and can selectively choose the next server seed to make the number locate in any range they want. Telling me about fair lmao, why do you keep changing your server seed?
The truth of dice is house can win with no house edge even negative house edge. Why? They don't beat you by house edge, they win their money from their algorithm,
That is provably untrue.
they will give you high if they want if you keep betting on low and vice versa, they can give you 20 or 50 high in a row in a 50% chance game and still tell you it's fair, there's just no rules. Even if i bet sometimes high sometimes low, i seldom win and neither do almost all the people i talked to, does the algorithm beat you or they can manipulate the bet? What they are doing behind the screen? You don't know and it's very questionable and not transparent at all.
It is completely transparent. That is the difference between a crypto casino and a fiat one. The fiat casino is supposed to use a government certified RNG but there is no way for the customer to prove whether or not they actually did. A provably fair crypto site gives you the tools not only to prove whether the roll was fair or not but to also chose to use a different client seed of your choice if you don't trust the RAND function on your device.
They will tell you you can verify the bet, but how much credibility does the sites that verify the bets have?
You don't need to trust the site that verifies the roll because all you need is a SHA256 hash generator and a hex to decimal converter to do it yourself.
So even if their algorithm doesn't beat you, their manipulation will. That's my conclusion for all the dice casino and maybe all the betting against the house.
And to those people who post positive reply to this site, you are either brainwashed by this site or just too cheap to have principles.
And to those people who post positive reply to this site, you are either brainwashed by this site or just too cheap to have principles.
My conclusion is that you haven't got the first clue what you are talking about.
All dice casinos are shit, freebitco.in is one of the worst, they use tiny free bitcoin to lure you to the site to gamble and lose, so they get way more than what they give out, what a business style lol!
The truth of dice is house can win with no house edge even negative house edge. Why? They don't beat you by house edge, they win their money from their algorithm, they will give you high if they want if you keep betting on low and vice versa, they can give you 20 or 50 high in a row in a 50% chance game and still tell you it's fair, there's just no rules. Even if i bet sometimes high sometimes low, i seldom win and neither do almost all the people i talked to, does the algorithm beat you or they can manipulate the bet? What they are doing behind the screen? You don't know and it's very questionable and not transparent at all. They will tell you you can verify the bet, but how much credibility does the sites that verify the bets have?
So even if their algorithm doesn't beat you, their manipulation will. That's my conclusion for all the dice casino and maybe all the betting against the house.
And to those people who post positive reply to this site, you are either brainwashed by this site or just too cheap to have principles.
The truth of dice is house can win with no house edge even negative house edge. Why? They don't beat you by house edge, they win their money from their algorithm, they will give you high if they want if you keep betting on low and vice versa, they can give you 20 or 50 high in a row in a 50% chance game and still tell you it's fair, there's just no rules. Even if i bet sometimes high sometimes low, i seldom win and neither do almost all the people i talked to, does the algorithm beat you or they can manipulate the bet? What they are doing behind the screen? You don't know and it's very questionable and not transparent at all. They will tell you you can verify the bet, but how much credibility does the sites that verify the bets have?
So even if their algorithm doesn't beat you, their manipulation will. That's my conclusion for all the dice casino and maybe all the betting against the house.
And to those people who post positive reply to this site, you are either brainwashed by this site or just too cheap to have principles.
Guess that happened before you started working for Freebitcoin
And again you are wrong. Still trying to concoct a lame conspiracy theory rather than understanding the forum rules.
Did the moderators ever deleted one of your posts?
Yes. 18 of them https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=TheQuin
Guess that happened before you started working for Freebitcoin
No, it's not the stupidest thing to have the impression that Bitcointalk is partly owned by Freebitcoin.
It really is.
When Bitcointalk moderators quickly delete posts of mine, and in these posts I am not insulting anybody and only writing about existing video material about Freebitcoin, it's reasonable to start having that impression.
When you keep breaking a simple set of rules because you couldn't be bothered to read and stick to them, your posts will get deleted. Choosing not to work out what the simple things you are doing wrong and instead coming up with a dumb conspiracy theory really is very stupid.
Did the moderators ever deleted one of your posts?
Yes. 18 of them https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=TheQuin
i bet yesterday and you can always bet on team out of competition i m stupid
I couldn't have put it better myself. If someone places a bet on an outcome that is no longer possible they have not been scammed they just made a mistake and should take responsibility for their own actions.
I think you won't get any help here because I have the impression that Bitcointalk is partly owned by Freebitcoin.
That really is the stupidest thing you have said yet (and that's a high bar). Maybe do some research about the forum and its history before making a fool of yourself.
]I couldn't have put it better myself. If someone places a bet on an outcome that is no longer possible they have not been scammed they just made a mistake and should take responsibility for their own actions. Huh
why you say that it s the responsible of the provider of bet to not offers bet that don t exist if you go in reality in a match of soccer you can t come after the match and make a bet you silly you never saw a bookmaker say to you you can bet after the match maybe it s happen when the provider find a stupid boy like me for bet after the match on the team who lose if you lie to a stupid boy like me and say you can bet on this team and the match is already end YES YOU SCAMED THE STUPID BOY. THAT WHAT FREBITCOIN DO SCAM POOR PEOPLE AND SAY IT S YOUR OWN RESPONSABILITY LIKE ALL SCAMER
I think you won't get any help here because I have the impression that Bitcointalk is partly owned by Freebitcoin.
That really is the stupidest thing you have said yet (and that's a high bar). Maybe do some research about the forum and its history before making a fool of yourself.
No, it's not the stupidest thing to have the impression that Bitcointalk is partly owned by Freebitcoin.
When Bitcointalk moderators quickly delete posts of mine, and in these posts I am not insulting anybody and only writing about existing video material about Freebitcoin, it's reasonable to start having that impression.
Did the moderators ever deleted one of your posts?
i bet yesterday and you can always bet on team out of competition i m stupid
I couldn't have put it better myself. If someone places a bet on an outcome that is no longer possible they have not been scammed they just made a mistake and should take responsibility for their own actions.
I think you won't get any help here because I have the impression that Bitcointalk is partly owned by Freebitcoin.
That really is the stupidest thing you have said yet (and that's a high bar). Maybe do some research about the forum and its history before making a fool of yourself.
ok thanks you mario to take the time to reply to me i understand what you say it s alway the same battle david vs goliath i thinks i was scamed and there nothing to do. thanks you mario but i think there other people who bet on team ou of competition you can go in freebitco en see ufa champion league and you can bet alway on this team i don t understand nobody say something all is normal for freebitco .maybe i try to have some help in association of gamblers i google it and see if i find some help bye
hello i m a victim of this site they offers to bet on ufa champion league with a advert and i go to the site excited i dont follow soccer and excited i bet on 4 team.but in reality the team i bet have already lost the competition they offer to bet on team that not on the game i must be stupid to bet without knowledge of the competition.what i want to say it s normally impossible to bet on team that is already out of competion but they offers thats i know i m stupid they stealth me 0.044btc and write to him and they say your responsible of your own mistake i m desgusted and the game is always on the site can you help me you can see the odds at this time for team already out of competitioni bet yesterday and you can always bet on team out of competition i m stupid what else i don t understand.more than ten day that left just two team but when i betting i m excited and don t know that...
I think you won't get any help here because I have the impression that Bitcointalk is partly owned by Freebitcoin.
I also have a problem with Freebitcoin. And when I made here a post complaining about them, there were four, five people mocking me right away.
hello i m a victim of this site they offers to bet on ufa champion league with a advert and i go to the site excited i dont follow soccer and excited i bet on 4 team.but in reality the team i bet have already lost the competition they offer to bet on team that not on the game i must be stupid to bet without knowledge of the competition.what i want to say it s normally impossible to bet on team that is already out of competion but they offers thats i know i m stupid they stealth me 0.044btc and write to him and they say your responsible of your own mistake i m desgusted and the game is always on the site can you help me you can see the odds at this time for team already out of competitioni bet yesterday and you can always bet on team out of competition i m stupid what else i don t understand.more than ten day that left just two team but when i betting i m excited and don t know that .
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Hours22
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TIME WEIGHT MULTIPLIER?
16.958x
PRIZE POOL
7.38662411
Liverpool
BETS COUNT
38,920
OUTCOME ODDS?
1.88
53%
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Barcelona
BETS COUNT
29,747
OUTCOME ODDS?
5.40
19%
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Tottenham
BETS COUNT
11,168
OUTCOME ODDS?
5.50
18%
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Ajax
BETS COUNT
7,925
OUTCOME ODDS?
18.86
5%
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Juventus
BETS COUNT
8,430
OUTCOME ODDS?
40.01
2%
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Manchester City
BETS COUNT
3,975
OUTCOME ODDS?
69.78
1%
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Manchester United
BETS COUNT
2,920
OUTCOME ODDS?
203.36
0%
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Porto
BETS COUNT
2,767
OUTCOME ODDS?
255.14
0%
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DECISION LOGIC
The winner of this bet will be the team that wins the UEFA Champions League 2018-19.
Betting on this event will stop before the final match.
its not scam - in over night if you keep on rolling dice you may loose your coins.. why not you invest and earn Interest Amount ? You can also play Lotto instead of playing dice.. 
Hey admin of freebitco.in, is your job finding post saying your sites is scam and then defend your website lol,
I'm not the admin and this is part of the job he pays me to do. I'm not sure why you find a company defending its reputation from false accusations funny.
the reason i don't believe in any gambling against the house is that a close to 50% chance means there's also good chance casino can lose, do you think they will allow this to happen?
I don't just think it I know they will. In gambling, your reputation is the most important thing. Paying out to the winners is what builds that reputation. Any respectable casino will have a large enough bankroll in proportion to its maximum win per bet to be able to absorb the high rollers who get lucky. It is just a matter of time before another one comes along and loses a little more.
How many casinos have you heard become bankrupting? It's always the players that are losing. No matter what algorithm they use, what game they created, the outcome is the same. So what's the point of gambling? People should really stop dreaming that they can become rich gambling, there's almost no such thing exist.
That's just a very common misconception fuelled by the fact that the losers like to make a lot of noise and don't believe they simply lost a bet whereas the winners just quietly pocket their winnings and walk away. The reality of gambling is that some players win, some players lose and the house makes a little profit from the house edge.
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