Topic: freebitco.in an actual scam - page 4. (Read 15174 times)

Hey admin of freebitco.in, is your job finding post saying your sites is scam and then defend your website lol, the reason i don't believe in any gambling against the house is that a close to 50% chance means there's also good chance casino can lose, do you think they will allow this to happen? How many casinos have you heard become bankrupting? It's always the players that are losing. No matter what algorithm they use, what game they created, the outcome is the same. So what's the point of gambling? People should really stop dreaming that they can become rich gambling, there's almost no such thing exist.

Thanks for that, it makes a change to have someone who actually understands it post.



It is sad that so many people don't understand what provably fair actually does. It allows them to prove to themselves whether or not they were cheated. Given that information, they could choose to go and use another site if they found one that was unfair. Instead, they just act like babies crying "it's not fair" because they lost a bet.

Provably fair means nothing, you can't actually tell what those dice sites do behind the screen, if they want to find a way to cheat to their benifits, they can always find one, it's just you can never know, so simple. And if you believe those sites that verify the bets are trustful, i have nothing to say... Don't believe what they say, just watch what they do. Most of people who play the dice game are losing, what is that telling you? I'll keep saying because that freebitco.in admin keep brainwashing people to make them believe it's fair, but apparently it's not.

The level of discussion has dropped, so let's all try to lift it up a notch. First of all, the OP has no clue what "provably fair" means and how hashes and mathematics work. OP believes it is impossible to get 50 bad strikes in a row and that is where he is wrong (because even if consecutive, each bet has nothing to do with the bet before it, and you could say each bet is a "new" bet, so if a new bet can be a bad strike, 2000 or more bets can too) . Entropy, or "mathematically chaos" how I call it, can be ruthless. You could literally get 2000 or even 20000 bad strikes in a row, not just 50. This can happen both online or offline (if you would use actual dices). If OP was right and 50 bad strikes are impossible, then we could all make millions using the Martingale method (look that up). Now, my advice for OP is to show us the hashes that can't be confirmed as valid.
I don't work for Freebitco.in , but facts are facts. There's a reason this site is among the first 800 in the world, and that reason is that until now it has proven to be a genuine paying site. However you aren't betting against them, you are betting against math and arithmetic, which is why I recommend betting for fun, and only amounts which you can afford to lose.

I've been using the faucet on the site to get $15-30 worth of free BTC every month (800-1200 satoshis/hour), I think this is one of their greatest feature. Recently they have added a betting system where you can bet on Game of Thrones, UEFA Champions league and other events (they can't possible control the results there can they?). This is just my opinion based on my experience as I've been using the site since its beginning. My best win was $1200+ from $60 using the Martingale betting system (100 satoshi bets with %220 bet increase on losing strikes).

Conclusion: The site is not cheating, since you can verify each hash of each of your bets, but provably fair doesn't mean you will win, so only bet what you can afford to lose.
Hope this helps.

Stop playing the multiplier game, I know it's hard for you people in the third world countries to stop gambling but sheesh.
Maybe you should read up on how they get the roll, do the same results with the server seed, server seed hash, client seed, and nonce.

People don't know that they probably did like 10000 rolls before hitting their cursed 12 losses streak in a row. Hell, I've even hit 22 losses in a row on old Bustabit v1. Is that a scam?
Maybe you should withdraw your btc, and gamble on a site that has a house edge of 1%? Instead of gambling your wager 20 times and having it expected to lose your wager by now.

Sorry for being mean but only slow people martingale. If you martingale, you decrease your chances of winning on a dice site by like 100%.

Anyways that's all I have to say.

Very funny how it was Govenment Officials from The BVI that told us to demand ALL DEPOSITS as no losses could take place as NO Internet Gambling or the operation of such a business is LEGAL in the BVI.  It was BVI Officials who stated that your company was NOT a registered business or corporation in the BVI and is looking forward to receiving signed complaints for Investigation and LAW ENFORCEMENT.  You really need to report them for Blackmail and Demanding Money with Menaces which are legal terms in British Law which I do not have to follow as a minor and none of these legal terms are mentioned in your FAQ's and we all know there is no TOS!  Anyone can access and play your house sided games if they have the knowledge of how to operate a computer.  You should have allowed me to withdraw my deposits for which I have proof of making.  Your arrogance and insulting remarks are going to come back to haunt you and you can be sure of that.  Waiting for you to show you have an ounce of common sense but doubt we will see it.  You pat yourself on the back so much I feel like sending you some shoulder pads as they have to be black and blue and maybe even bruised from the constant patting.  You steal money plain and simple and Government Officials from the BVI have indicated they are on our side and even recommended the induction of LAW Enforcement on our end as having an even stronger arm through the Federal Bureau of Investigation that you laugh about.

We moved from Belize to BVI well over a year ago. I only insult idiots that get everything wrong and are too thick to accept that when they are corrected.

TheQuin does have something to hide!  Why do deposit receipts by email state you are located in The British Virgin Islands when you in fact operate from Belize?  Could this be to avoid paying taxes to the Belize Government on your very high profits?  I tried in good faith to withdraw Deposits, not WINS for which I have your emails acknowledging these deposits that you literally STOLE from me.  When I told you I took Accounting and Business Law classes at school as I told you I am a "Freshmen" in High School you stated:  I have no idea which flee ridden State you studied law in but you should look up "demanding money with menaces".  I am not a Lawyer and far from it.  You use legal terms and have a habit of telling people to look things up in the Dictionary like Variances, Probability, etc.  It was looking like with your clout and probably support of this forum that my posts were being deleted so to those seeing duplicate messages I do apoligize as I am new to this forum thing.  I do not feel TheQuin should steal candy from kids which he does.  Now Ken uncle has supplied a great story of 100% truth of Freebitcoin which is worthy of reading.  If you read the reviews those who are just "Free" customers claiming from the faucets have great things to say about the site.  Those who have played their games have quite another story to say.  I encourage everyone to see the reviews as these people were not compensated and have no influence over a forum like TheQuin appears to.  Even reports to Moderators reporting his rude and obsense comments were COMPLETELY IGNORED! https://www.lottoexposed.com/freebitco-exposed/#comment-11445

Just more proof that "TheQuin" insults everyone he does not agree with and acts like he has full knowledge of laws with his infamous quotes and terms he tells one to research.  It goes to question Why claim to be located in The British Virgin Islands where Internet Gambling and the Operation of such a business is highly ILLEGAL when you are in fact from Belize?  Could it be to avoid paying your Government taxes on profits they are owed?  I will make this query to concerned Govenmental Departments in Belize now.  Your "Good Name" are viewpoints from those making the "FREE" claims from the faucet, those who play your games and lottery tell quite a different story.  Freebitcoin scores from two trusted review sites with a 5 out of 10 and a 2.8 out of 5.0 which tells the real truth.  Would you like the links to the review sites?  I could PM them to you but when I questioned the "Location Deception" and demanded access to my account to withdraw the deposits which I have email acknowledgements from your site, YOU BLOCKED ME!

Go away and do some research about how provably fair works. It is the thing that differentiates Bitcoin casinos from fiat ones as it actually does allow the customer to prove fairness rather than rely on a government agency just certifying an RNG. That's why we have a good name with people that understand it and it is only the people like yourself who are too lazy to find out the facts who still believe there is manipulation.

Everybody knows casino is full of manipulation, that's why they get their bad name. And online casino is the worst because almost no one supervise them at all, talking about evidence lmao, no casino is stupid enough to let player get evidence that they are cheating, but don't believe what they are saying about fairness, just think like 90% of people are actually losing in gambling, give me 1 story that people are actually becoming rich gambling and are having quality lives. Even though you win 1 time, you will lose if you keep gambling. I don't even want to try to understand their questionable mechanism, just think this way, if they give you nearly 50% chance, there's almost same chance that casino will lose if player gamble huge, do you think they will let this happen?  So why are we wasting our time letting those people getting rich. If you have crypto, invest it or trade it, don't be stupid and gamble them away, simple enough.

Provably fair gives customers the opportunity to actually check if it was fair or not. Many people like yourself are too thick to understand that and make bullshit claims without any evidence.


If you want a puritanical authoritarian world where other people decide what you can and can not do based on their prejudices then Bitcoin probably isn't for you. This about giving people financial freedom that can not be interfered with by governments.

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A lot of people make that mistake. All the free things like lottery tickets, reward points, and free-roll bonuses etc. actually make us very competitive against the no thrills plain vanilla low house edge sites. That is why we have one of the highest volumes wagered in the Bitcoin dice business. You could even win a Lambo with us.

Well you can't blame a site as scam for loosing your money in gamble unless you actually find out their algorithm in not provably fair.
What is clear is that freebitco.in is one of the worst site to play dice on. They have a huge house edge which has greater possibility of making you loose.

Provably fair is just used to trick players, you actually believe those bloodsucking casino people would be fair lol, probability just means everything can happen, so they can manipulate as they want, no one would actually supervise those casino, so just stay away this dark area! The world would be a much better place without casino, they shouldn't even be legal.

And what exacltyon your picture is shoing us that this is not provably fair?
You lost 15 times in a row ? Nothing surprising here ? You could lose more than 30 times in a row and its still normal its just luck.


regards

Provably fair does not mean that you cannot lose...

just a quick explanation.

in your case with every bet you can win with 47.5% probability and lose with 52.5%, ok?
now, let's see the second bet. in the second bet you have the same %, 47.5% and 52.5%. the third, 47.5% and 52.5% and guess the fourth.. yes 47.5% and 52.5%.

so if you have a series of losses it does not mean that you have a greater chance of winning.

This is scam, I got about 22000 satoshi by using the faucet for about 2 years.
I recently start using the multiply part and at this :

http://www.zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=19/11/40c4.png

this site is clearly not provably fair...

We don't have an RNG as it is a provably fair system based on cryptography. The seeds are randomly generated and as you are free to change the client seed if the server seed was not truly random that would mean it was predictable which in turn would leave mean someone could work out what client seed to use to win.

When you use the word "probability" and calculate chances, you pretend that they (freebitcoin game) have a Random Number Generator. Do they? Of course, no) First of all it's a program emulator. Who can give me exact formula of their algorithm?  47.5% What is this? As I said earlier their 50% are not real Random 50/50. Why should I believe in 47.5% then?  Anyway, I quit the game five months ago, stopped losing and made more money on exchanges and ico's.

That sounds like a local problem with your browser.