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I do agree that Bayern didn't get "that" bad, certainly not enough to be a 1.95 against Leipzig that is for sure, and PSG could be 1.36, I have absolutely no bother with that because they are certainly much better team and they will win that game.

What I do not understand is only stuck with Bayern and Bayern only, there is no comparison in my mind about PSG versus Bayern because that is not the topic here, how much better they are against each other will have no point when the real opponents are Nantes and Leipzig. It should both be under 1.50 and that would make sense, but when you give Bayern such a hard time, I will just bet on that and thank you for the free double on my money.
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poor = handicap? I didn't quite understand what kind of bet you are interested in. Try to look at the bets in the bookmaker that is in my signature - they have a wide line of bets and if there is some kind of bet on the market, then for this event (the French Super Cup is not a niche but a major event), then they will have it too.

By the way, it's funny that PSG's odds against Nantes are rated at 1.36 at the moment, while Bayern's odds against Leipzig are 1.95. PSG are extremely overrated.
It is quite confused to see bookmakers determined the odds for PSG because Nantes is not so weak even during last season they can able to beat PSG several times and i think low odds is not safe bet for this match because possibly Nantes will flipped people predictions and won the game and Bayern match seems very interesting because bookmakers giving higher odds for them and bet for Bayern ML seems good choice especially Bayern players also very confident can beat Leipzig and the records showed since 2019 Leipzig never can win from Bayern

I can only explain such strange odds by saying that people bet on names and the bookmakers take this into account. Lewandowski left Bayern and betters think that this weakened the club (I think that his value for the club was no more than 5-7% - obviously even Bayern -10% is still stronger than Leipzig). PSG is very strong on paper, so it looks like a "safe" bet. I will only bet on PSG live and I'm not sure if I can pick up a good moment (preferably PSG concede an early goal).
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The disharmonious relationship emerged after Mbappe got some privileges in his latest contract, so it's like making other players second compared to Mbappe who has several privileges. Therefore, at the same time Neymar has habits such as being undisciplined so there is an assumption that Mbappe asks Neymar to get punished. Extending Mbappe's contract by granting some privileges breaks the harmonious relationship between them, and I think in such a case it would be better for Neymar to leave if possible.
PSG needs him for their club reputation and income and with hope that he will contribute for their first Champions League. They also know that it is hard to find another player at same level and young like Mbappe. So they bet on success with Mbappe even they had to sacrifice not only money to pay him higher salary but also to give him unreasonable priviledge over other players.
They bet that it won't create player conflict and it won't bring down the general teammateship and performance of the club. I think they made bad choice but let's see how they will end the new season. If they win Champions League, their bet wortths something but if they don't win it, their bet is bad. I am sure internally PSG currently have and will have something bad.

Neymar will stay with PSG for at least one more season. PSG coach Christophe Galtier has developed his match strategy around Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe. And if these three players can play consistently well, without facing any major injuries, then it is possible for PSG to win the Champions League title. I know PSG management is giving Mbappe more priority now. Because Mbappe is a young player. He will support the PSG team for a long time. But Neymar and Messi can't do that. So PSG is giving Mbappe more opportunities to secure their future.
I am seeing Neymar to be the problem in the team,because it seems he is jealous of Mbape and how the fans have loved the lad.Mbape impressed everyone last season,being very helpful to the team and contributing with goals and assist,which helped them remain top of the league. Messi has no problem,he is ready to work with everyone in the team and every one loves him as well,but Neymar is the player trying to cause Disunity to the team.There is nothing as good as unity,if the both can work together,unite with the rest of the team,there is every tendency that they will win the champions league.But if they cannot unite,then it will be difficult for them to even win their league this season.
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Isn't it interesting that Neymar still doesn't seem to be very friendly to Mbappe now? I'm saying this taking a video related to this into account. As you must have also seen it already Neymar didn't seem eager to work closely with Mbappe and waited for Messi to team up with him. This makes me think about if there is a problem that we don't know currently. I hope that it isn't the case while PSG are trying this hard to win the Champions League especially. The trio must show their best effort this season to have a bigger chance.
the personal relationship between neymar and mbappe will be difficult because neymar is still very happy with the privileges given by the PSG owner to mbappe, neymar is not special anymore so pairing neymar with mbappe will never run smoothly

btw, neymar is really a problem player even the case of allegations of transfer fraud (from santos to barcelona) is still rolling until now
It is useless for us to link the allegations that happened to neymar in the past with what is happening now at PSG, the privileges obtained by mbappe will of course trigger conflicts between players in the PSG squad later and it will be a difficult job for the coach in order to reduce the existing conflict, the tension between Neymar, mbappe and Messi at the training ground should be a warning to PSG management because otherwise it will only disrupt the stability of the club later.
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The disharmonious relationship emerged after Mbappe got some privileges in his latest contract, so it's like making other players second compared to Mbappe who has several privileges. Therefore, at the same time Neymar has habits such as being undisciplined so there is an assumption that Mbappe asks Neymar to get punished. Extending Mbappe's contract by granting some privileges breaks the harmonious relationship between them, and I think in such a case it would be better for Neymar to leave if possible.
PSG needs him for their club reputation and income and with hope that he will contribute for their first Champions League. They also know that it is hard to find another player at same level and young like Mbappe. So they bet on success with Mbappe even they had to sacrifice not only money to pay him higher salary but also to give him unreasonable priviledge over other players.
They bet that it won't create player conflict and it won't bring down the general teammateship and performance of the club. I think they made bad choice but let's see how they will end the new season. If they win Champions League, their bet wortths something but if they don't win it, their bet is bad. I am sure internally PSG currently have and will have something bad.

Neymar will stay with PSG for at least one more season. PSG coach Christophe Galtier has developed his match strategy around Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe. And if these three players can play consistently well, without facing any major injuries, then it is possible for PSG to win the Champions League title. I know PSG management is giving Mbappe more priority now. Because Mbappe is a young player. He will support the PSG team for a long time. But Neymar and Messi can't do that. So PSG is giving Mbappe more opportunities to secure their future.
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The disharmonious relationship emerged after Mbappe got some privileges in his latest contract, so it's like making other players second compared to Mbappe who has several privileges. Therefore, at the same time Neymar has habits such as being undisciplined so there is an assumption that Mbappe asks Neymar to get punished. Extending Mbappe's contract by granting some privileges breaks the harmonious relationship between them, and I think in such a case it would be better for Neymar to leave if possible.
PSG needs him for their club reputation and income and with hope that he will contribute for their first Champions League. They also know that it is hard to find another player at same level and young like Mbappe. So they bet on success with Mbappe even they had to sacrifice not only money to pay him higher salary but also to give him unreasonable priviledge over other players.

They bet that it won't create player conflict and it won't bring down the general teammateship and performance of the club. I think they made bad choice but let's see how they will end the new season. If they win Champions League, their bet wortths something but if they don't win it, their bet is bad. I am sure internally PSG currently have and will have something bad.
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Isn't it interesting that Neymar still doesn't seem to be very friendly to Mbappe now? I'm saying this taking a video related to this into account. As you must have also seen it already Neymar didn't seem eager to work closely with Mbappe and waited for Messi to team up with him. This makes me think about if there is a problem that we don't know currently. I hope that it isn't the case while PSG are trying this hard to win the Champions League especially. The trio must show their best effort this season to have a bigger chance.
the personal relationship between neymar and mbappe will be difficult because neymar is still very happy with the privileges given by the PSG owner to mbappe, neymar is not special anymore so pairing neymar with mbappe will never run smoothly

btw, neymar is really a problem player even the case of allegations of transfer fraud (from santos to barcelona) is still rolling until now
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This is a pretty important thing. For a team to be a champion or to play good football, there must be harmony between the players in the team. If there is a problem, it should be resolved as soon as possible and their friendship should increase. Otherwise, this situation will affect the game of the team quite a lot.
With such good players together, we should watch something great Smiley
Well with what you said because with harmony it will provide a very positive atmosphere and teamwork I'm sure will be created because as happened to some world football players who are arrogant and ostracized by their friends in the club so that ultimately made him unable to work with the team and on the field he could not give his maximum contribution and it was a bad ending for him.
Mbappe is a player who has the privilege of being a sporting director at PSG at this time, this privilege have makes Mbappe the privilege to control who can be discarded or retained by PSG at this time, this privilege sometimes creates feelings of jealousy from other players and of course will make the atmosphere in the squad uncomfortable again and harmonious as before, currently there are many issues of division in the PSG squad including the uncertain future of neymar at this time due to Mbappe dislike of neymar so far.
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I also am worried about this Mbappe - Neymar situation. Neymar should drop his cold attitude against Mbappe immediately. It isn't the first time they are playing together at PSG in the end. They have been playing together more than they have done with Messi so far. I don't doubt Mbappe's performance next season but I can't say the same for Neymar. His performance level will depend on how much happy he is about being here.
The disharmonious relationship emerged after Mbappe got some privileges in his latest contract, so it's like making other players second compared to Mbappe who has several privileges. Therefore, at the same time Neymar has habits such as being undisciplined so there is an assumption that Mbappe asks Neymar to get punished. Extending Mbappe's contract by granting some privileges breaks the harmonious relationship between them, and I think in such a case it would be better for Neymar to leave if possible.
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Well with what you said because with harmony it will provide a very positive atmosphere and teamwork I'm sure will be created because as happened to some world football players who are arrogant and ostracized by their friends in the club so that ultimately made him unable to work with the team and on the field he could not give his maximum contribution and it was a bad ending for him.
I think there was only a small problem between Neymar and Mbappe last season because Mbappe accused Neymar of his ego on the pitch. After that incident I think they are in good shape, indeed on the one hand if a team has internal problems between players I think it will cause a big problem in the team's journey to win the title because they are not balanced in concentration on the pitch.
Neymar has been closely linked with Chelsea in the past few weeks but until now it seems the rumors have not come true and I think he prefers to stay with PSG this season.

Mbappe should have been sanctioned for bringing such childish behavior to the pitch
Neymar tends to be selfish but why will Mbappe say such outrightly to his face.
The both of them are good they can achieve it all at PSG
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I think there was only a small problem between Neymar and Mbappe last season because Mbappe accused Neymar of his ego on the pitch. After that incident I think they are in good shape, indeed on the one hand if a team has internal problems between players I think it will cause a big problem in the team's journey to win the title because they are not balanced in concentration on the pitch.
Neymar has been closely linked with Chelsea in the past few weeks but until now it seems the rumors have not come true and I think he prefers to stay with PSG this season.
Every great player clearly has a little ego to be better in the team and also on the field, especially if Neymar and Mbappe are great players who have become stars at PSG.
So it's natural that there is a little ego and it becomes a problem, but PSG club officials and coaches must have resolved this in a healthy manner.
As for this rumor I haven't read it and also Chelsea have not shown much interest in Neymar. Although there has been news about Neymar being linked with Chelsea now.
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Well with what you said because with harmony it will provide a very positive atmosphere and teamwork I'm sure will be created because as happened to some world football players who are arrogant and ostracized by their friends in the club so that ultimately made him unable to work with the team and on the field he could not give his maximum contribution and it was a bad ending for him.
I think there was only a small problem between Neymar and Mbappe last season because Mbappe accused Neymar of his ego on the pitch. After that incident I think they are in good shape, indeed on the one hand if a team has internal problems between players I think it will cause a big problem in the team's journey to win the title because they are not balanced in concentration on the pitch.
Neymar has been closely linked with Chelsea in the past few weeks but until now it seems the rumors have not come true and I think he prefers to stay with PSG this season.
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I also am worried about this Mbappe - Neymar situation. Neymar should drop his cold attitude against Mbappe immediately. It isn't the first time they are playing together at PSG in the end. They have been playing together more than they have done with Messi so far. I don't doubt Mbappe's performance next season but I can't say the same for Neymar. His performance level will depend on how much happy he is about being here.
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Isn't it interesting that Neymar still doesn't seem to be very friendly to Mbappe now? I'm saying this taking a video related to this into account. As you must have also seen it already Neymar didn't seem eager to work closely with Mbappe and waited for Messi to team up with him. This makes me think about if there is a problem that we don't know currently. I hope that it isn't the case while PSG are trying this hard to win the Champions League especially. The trio must show their best effort this season to have a bigger chance.
Disunity among the players at PSG,especially Neymar and Mbape will not take them anywhere. They've been doing bad lately,not been able to get to the chpuons league final. Neymar is a player that has pride,and there is no way he can stay in thesame team with Mbape because it is obvious to they cannot just play together in peace.
Nevertheless,if they can come together and play together in unity,it is possible that they will win the champions league.
The news about this kind of thing is getting bigger and bigger especially when they give Mbappe great authority in influence at the Club which must make Neymar a little uncomfortable because he has some internal problems there.
But apart from that all this should have been resolved soon if they are a team with a high professional considering this league will soon be running and obviously problems like this are problems they must avoid in order to make the club more stable.
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Isn't it interesting that Neymar still doesn't seem to be very friendly to Mbappe now? I'm saying this taking a video related to this into account. As you must have also seen it already Neymar didn't seem eager to work closely with Mbappe and waited for Messi to team up with him. This makes me think about if there is a problem that we don't know currently. I hope that it isn't the case while PSG are trying this hard to win the Champions League especially. The trio must show their best effort this season to have a bigger chance.
I think Neymar will have to drop his childish attitude and focus on getting his game play on. Funny thing is, acting rudely to mbappe will not change the fact that the latter was given the right to choose the kinds of players to be signed. Frankly, PSG will have to do everything possible to ensure they not just play in the championship but strive to win and this can be achieved by harmony and cooperation.
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Isn't it interesting that Neymar still doesn't seem to be very friendly to Mbappe now? I'm saying this taking a video related to this into account. As you must have also seen it already Neymar didn't seem eager to work closely with Mbappe and waited for Messi to team up with him. This makes me think about if there is a problem that we don't know currently. I hope that it isn't the case while PSG are trying this hard to win the Champions League especially. The trio must show their best effort this season to have a bigger chance.
Ever since Psg had favored Mbappe with lots of things to stop his move to Real Madrid, Neymar had been jealous of him, I'm not suprised either seeing Neymar in such behaviour, I believe if his weekly payment is not huge he would have opted for another club, I still see Psg as a favorite to win next season champions league, they only need a good coach who knows how to utilise those stars there and a coach that they will be able to listen to, not a coach that players will be dictating for. I believe that Neymar and Mbappe friendship will be more better as the season starts.
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This is a pretty important thing. For a team to be a champion or to play good football, there must be harmony between the players in the team. If there is a problem, it should be resolved as soon as possible and their friendship should increase. Otherwise, this situation will affect the game of the team quite a lot.
With such good players together, we should watch something great Smiley
Well with what you said because with harmony it will provide a very positive atmosphere and teamwork I'm sure will be created because as happened to some world football players who are arrogant and ostracized by their friends in the club so that ultimately made him unable to work with the team and on the field he could not give his maximum contribution and it was a bad ending for him.
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Isn't it interesting that Neymar still doesn't seem to be very friendly to Mbappe now? I'm saying this taking a video related to this into account. As you must have also seen it already Neymar didn't seem eager to work closely with Mbappe and waited for Messi to team up with him. This makes me think about if there is a problem that we don't know currently. I hope that it isn't the case while PSG are trying this hard to win the Champions League especially. The trio must show their best effort this season to have a bigger chance.
Disunity among the players at PSG,especially Neymar and Mbape will not take them anywhere. They've been doing bad lately,not been able to get to the chpuons league final. Neymar is a player that has pride,and there is no way he can stay in thesame team with Mbape because it is obvious to they cannot just play together in peace.
Nevertheless,if they can come together and play together in unity,it is possible that they will win the champions league.

This is a pretty important thing. For a team to be a champion or to play good football, there must be harmony between the players in the team. If there is a problem, it should be resolved as soon as possible and their friendship should increase. Otherwise, this situation will affect the game of the team quite a lot.
With such good players together, we should watch something great Smiley
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I understand that PSG is the favourite, but the question is, is the profit worth the risk? For example, if you bet on PSG to win in regular time and PSG win in extra time, you will lose money. And if you bet on the final victory of PSG, then the odds become very small ~ 1.18. Thus, even after guessing 5 such games in a row, you will not be able to double the bet (this means that even one loss will send you into a deep minus).
Is there any sports book we can bet on with the regular and extra time? this means we can bet a club in half and full time with "poor". I just remember that because I was ever playing "poor" when brazil face chili in the world cup 2010 In south Africa, where that time my friend has 1 ball "poor" in halftime. unfortunately, I still lose even quite promising to win.

poor = handicap? I didn't quite understand what kind of bet you are interested in. Try to look at the bets in the bookmaker that is in my signature - they have a wide line of bets and if there is some kind of bet on the market, then for this event (the French Super Cup is not a niche but a major event), then they will have it too.

By the way, it's funny that PSG's odds against Nantes are rated at 1.36 at the moment, while Bayern's odds against Leipzig are 1.95. PSG are extremely overrated.
It is quite confused to see bookmakers determined the odds for PSG because Nantes is not so weak even during last season they can able to beat PSG several times and i think low odds is not safe bet for this match because possibly Nantes will flipped people predictions and won the game and Bayern match seems very interesting because bookmakers giving higher odds for them and bet for Bayern ML seems good choice especially Bayern players also very confident can beat Leipzig and the records showed since 2019 Leipzig never can win from Bayern
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PSG front line is now too perfect because of the many great players who are there, so I don't think PSG should really think about many changes in the front line next season but not with their defense line, what Galtier said is true because if we look at PSG failure in the champions league yesterday defense was one of their weaknesses, maybe in ligue 1, PSG defense is quite strong because there is no other club in ligue 1 that is better but not so with the champions league which is filled with strong teams that have a club balance both defense and attack, so if PSG want to be able to compete strongly in the Champions League next season of course Galtier must be able to improve PSG defense.
I think it wasn't really about changes to the roster, but changes to the mindset and strategy that will make them better. In the end if they end up with something that would be profitable for them like very hardcore training, or a new tactic on the pitch, or some kind of new pressure defense, whatever it is that they could change with the same roster, that could help them win it.

Definitely messi, neymar, mbappe trio which didn't play too many minutes last season, could be awesome but lets face it, there is no guarantee that they would play all games together this year neither, meaning it will be hard for the manager to rely on just those three players.
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