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Quote from: Minecache on July 23, 2022, 01:59:22 PM

In PSG when a certain player is in the final third of the field they really don't want to look up and pass the ball.

But in Barcelona, it almost felt like Messi knew what his teammates were about to do. And he positioned himself accordingly. The frustration of Lionel Messi is quite visible at times in PSG. Honestly, I don't think his poor form is apt to change unless he is playing the passing game that he is used to. He is not in his element unless he does so.

Spot on observation! They train you at Barca to always look up, so you have a team at least the top half of it constantly looking and being aware of space and opportunity, that's why the off ball movement is so great.

PSG players tend to even want to look down or pass instinctively, and it doesn't come off the way they expect. Messi seems to be the only one doing thinking 10 seconds ahead and everyone is just living in the moment.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 23, 2022, 04:11:47 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM

Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

I agree with your statement partly because right now still these three are one of the best in their business but as currently things are not going in favor of Neymar it's problem for him and PSG management they are desperate for offloading him but have no better choice and system to do this in very quick time he has never been ideal player here in this team with his behavior and things which are he doing here now as PSG management is sticking with few policies it's going to be hard for him to do his best and stay here otherwise it's going to be more problems for him with his lavish salary no other club can afford him and his game is also going down day by day which is another concern for management.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM

Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

The trio on paper is the best in the world currently. They can do really big things if they want too. Problem with Neymar is that he either dosent want to play or gets injured and that is the main problem for him. While Messi still needs time i guess to play at his elite level

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Actually I believe that Messi and Neymar both have left their brightest times behind. However PSG don't need their best ever performances now. They just need to see them being more productive than the previous season. This is very important to achieve the Champions League title now. The trio of Messi-Neymar-Mbappe can be even the best one in the world now. But if they don't play strongly all this wouldn't change anything. They would have another heartbreaking season in the CL.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 23, 2022, 04:28:08 AM

All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

Messi was a great striker in Barcelona and scored a lot of goals, but after moving to PSG, he began to score much less, a lot of time between this transfer did not pass, he did not become much older. Therefore, I think that it is not the player, but the team. And if Messi could now move to another club, perhaps he would return his efficiency, and in PSG to realize himself in such a big rivalry not ease.

Messi wasn't a striker, he scored a lot of goals but a striker he was not. He is mainly a winger, or plays behind the striker, at the "10" position famously. You could check his positions in football manager or fifanad you will see that he is mainly a RW but could play at AMC position as well (attacking midfield center) and that is where he shines.

In PSG he played in the right wing as well, but he couldn't get into the middle like he normally would. That is not based on him or anything, that's based on how he is not used to playing with the other players there and the other players there weren't used to him, the more they play together the better they will be.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on July 22, 2022, 11:22:13 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on July 21, 2022, 06:15:20 PM

The performance of the trio at PSG is going to be the thing that we are going to be very curious about. Messi and Neymar especially will need to show much better performances to be able to help the team reach their goal in the Champions League especially. They are already a huge favourite for the title in the Ligue 1. Neymar is staying as it seems so he should do his best for the team. I hope that he doesn't have any serious injury this time. Messi improved his performance a lot after some time. But he still needs to do better than this. Maybe it isn't easy for him to go back to his times at Barcelona but PSG need his best now.

I saw players who joined Paris Saint Germain failed to give their best, failed I didn't mean failed to contribute, but their game was below their standard. I'm not sure about this, but I think as long as they don't have good chemistry between the players then they certainly won't find a change. One more role of the coach at PSG is still in question.

As we all know having big players are never been guarantee for winning titles or having better results you have to settle things in good way with very strong strategy for bringing good results is also very important for any club right now we have no positive things at PSG with few players are not following discipline, and they are also treated in good way by management which is big concern and having not good results.

Even recently we have news that management is not happy with Neymar, but sadly they can't do anything with having contract until 2025 and wager is also very high which is not acceptable for any other club even Manchester City decline offer from PSG for exchange of Neymar for Bernard Silva which is very important player for them.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on July 23, 2022, 05:25:52 AM

Quote from: arimamib on July 23, 2022, 04:28:08 AM

All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

Messi was a great striker in Barcelona and scored a lot of goals, but after moving to PSG, he began to score much less, a lot of time between this transfer did not pass, he did not become much older. Therefore, I think that it is not the player, but the team. And if Messi could now move to another club, perhaps he would return his efficiency, and in PSG to realize himself in such a big rivalry not ease.

After watching some gameplay of Lionel Messi at PSG, I am quite certain that he is unable to adapt to the playstyle. I also believe that he is really missing the link-up play that he was so used to when he was in Barcelona. In PSG when a certain player is in the final third of the field they really don't want to look up and pass the ball.

But in Barcelona, it almost felt like Messi knew what his teammates were about to do. And he positioned himself accordingly. The frustration of Lionel Messi is quite visible at times in PSG. Honestly, I don't think his poor form is apt to change unless he is playing the passing game that he is used to. He is not in his element unless he does so.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 23, 2022, 04:28:08 AM

All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

Messi was a great striker in Barcelona and scored a lot of goals, but after moving to PSG, he began to score much less, a lot of time between this transfer did not pass, he did not become much older. Therefore, I think that it is not the player, but the team. And if Messi could now move to another club, perhaps he would return his efficiency, and in PSG to realize himself in such a big rivalry not ease.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on July 21, 2022, 12:02:40 AM

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It's time for Leo Messi to open his preseason account against Kawasaki. A new season brings a new beginning. In the game of football, Messi is one of the legends. When the season begins, you never know what he will become. When Messi looks like this, I love it. It looks like he is prepared for the season. This season, he should be able to accomplish more than ever before.

I believe you know that the Messi of before is no longer the Messi of now again? Yes, he may be very much ready for the new season but we should not expect him to do his usual magic on the field of play because age is no longer on his side. Messi is a legend no doubt but judging from his performance last season with his new club PSG, I think it's time for him to take a bow because his presence is no longer seen as a big problem to defenders. I doubt if he can accomplish more than he has done before according to you because a lot of young players are rising every day and their strength can not be compared to that of Messi who is aged and still trying to perform better.

All football players will experience a decline in performance as he ages, Messi has already passed the peak of glory during his career as a football player. Now he is looking at the remnants of his time as a player before deciding to hang up his boots. He is a bit lucky when compared to his rivals, PSG can give Messi the opportunity to continue to lift the title at the end of the season. While Ronaldo is struggling to get out of Manchester United, but unfortunately there is no club that is interested in using his services.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

Hollywood? Yes he should be there playing roles with famous artists, LOL Cheesy

. BTW, I don't agree with you about Manchester City not needing Neymar there. Haaland is a striker while Neymar plays on the left wing. As we know that the left wing of Manchester City is Foden and Grealish, and IMO, they are not good enough for Manchester City.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 23, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

what happened ? I think this rumor has been dismissed by the Manchester City side, Pep Guardianola has denied rumors that PSG have offered their striker Neymar to his club this summer or swapped him for Bernao Silva.

I think the rumors circulating are the lack of harmony between neymar and kylian mbappe, and not due to incompatibility with galtier's strategy.
Neymar is a very talented player whose role in the SPG squad is needed especially to get the champions league title this season.

I think at the moment there is no club that wants to sign Neymar because his salary is too high and also his performance is decreasing every season because the contribution he gives to PSG is getting less and less every season.
There were a lot of rumors circulating that led to rumors of a move going around, but I believe in the rumors that Christophe Galtier doesn't really need Neymar in his squad but I also don't think he will meet a new club.
PSG now have a very qualified squad and they are targeting to win the UCL trophy for that reason I believe the PSG management will still keep Neymar.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 23, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

what happened ? I think this rumor has been dismissed by the Manchester City side, Pep Guardianola has denied rumors that PSG have offered their striker Neymar to his club this summer or swapped him for Bernao Silva.

I think the rumors circulating are the lack of harmony between neymar and kylian mbappe, and not due to incompatibility with galtier's strategy.
Neymar is a very talented player whose role in the SPG squad is needed especially to get the champions league title this season.

Whatever the rumors, I would prefer Neymar to join Chelsea, because it will make the competition between the top teams in the Premier League continue. Manchester City got Haaland, Liverpool got Nunez and if Chelsea have any interest in Neymar then it should be rushed. Because after all, PSG have said that if there is a club willing to sign Neymar, the payment for Neymar's salary can be divided in half like 50:50. I personally don't understand why other big teams are not interested in Neymar, because Neymar's game play is still fine and also his young age maybe just because of his bad attitude but I think it's only a problem outside not inside.

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Quote from: kro55 on July 22, 2022, 08:13:07 PM

I would say, if Neymar doesn't suffer any serious injuries this season, we will see the best performances from the trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe next season. Neymar and Messi's chemistry was excellent at Barcelona. If we see this again, PSG is undoubtedly the favorite for the Champions League. Because PSG has talented players like Mbappe in the attack along with Neymar and Messi. Who are capable of breaking any team's defense.

Injuries are always big issues of Neymar since his transfer from Barcelona. Usually it hapens after winter holidays when players get relaxing time and sesson goes next to more serious time. Neymar does relax too much and it can affect his body too. Tighter intensity in second part of season is part of issue but main one should come from Neymar.

Naturally, human body get worse when they are getting older. Neymar can not avoid this process. His body will need more time to recharge, recover from matches and trainings. So if he won't change himself, he will surely get more injuries in next years, not less. If he gets more injuries, his performance will be worse.

Quote from: blue Snow on July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

Manchester City has a tactic that helps them to play well and not actually depend too much on a single player. In big matches, absence of De Bruyne ie. can cause issue but in general and in non big matches, they can play well.

They don't actually need Neymar to improve their quality. In recen lt seasons, they shown they need a classic striker like Kane and Haaland to find goals when their whole system without a real striker fail to score goals. Neymar is not that type of player.

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Quote from: blue Snow on July 22, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

what happened ? I think this rumor has been dismissed by the Manchester City side, Pep Guardianola has denied rumors that PSG have offered their striker Neymar to his club this summer or swapped him for Bernao Silva.

I think the rumors circulating are the lack of harmony between neymar and kylian mbappe, and not due to incompatibility with galtier's strategy.
Neymar is a very talented player whose role in the SPG squad is needed especially to get the champions league title this season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 21, 2022, 06:15:20 PM

The performance of the trio at PSG is going to be the thing that we are going to be very curious about. Messi and Neymar especially will need to show much better performances to be able to help the team reach their goal in the Champions League especially. They are already a huge favourite for the title in the Ligue 1. Neymar is staying as it seems so he should do his best for the team. I hope that he doesn't have any serious injury this time. Messi improved his performance a lot after some time. But he still needs to do better than this. Maybe it isn't easy for him to go back to his times at Barcelona but PSG need his best now.

I saw players who joined Paris Saint Germain failed to give their best, failed I didn't mean failed to contribute, but their game was below their standard. I'm not sure about this, but I think as long as they don't have good chemistry between the players then they certainly won't find a change. One more role of the coach at PSG is still in question.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 21, 2022, 06:15:20 PM

The performance of the trio at PSG is going to be the thing that we are going to be very curious about. Messi and Neymar especially will need to show much better performances to be able to help the team reach their goal in the Champions League especially. They are already a huge favourite for the title in the Ligue 1. Neymar is staying as it seems so he should do his best for the team. I hope that he doesn't have any serious injury this time. Messi improved his performance a lot after some time. But he still needs to do better than this. Maybe it isn't easy for him to go back to his times at Barcelona but PSG need his best now.

I would say, if Neymar doesn't suffer any serious injuries this season, we will see the best performances from the trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe next season. Neymar and Messi's chemistry was excellent at Barcelona. If we see this again, PSG is undoubtedly the favorite for the Champions League. Because PSG has talented players like Mbappe in the attack along with Neymar and Messi. Who are capable of breaking any team's defense.

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Quote from: BALIK on July 21, 2022, 09:56:11 PM

I don't see the reason why they should be exchanging Neymar for Bernardo Silva. Neymar is someone who is considered a “has been”. He has not been able to perform to his standards at PSG. And bringing in Neymar to the team obviously creates a lot more competition in the team itself as you already mentioned.

Actually, Neymar is good but ManCity doesn't need him at the moment because has bought Haaland. As you said, it will be a conflict of interest for the team. Maybe Neymar isn't compatible with the Gartier scheme so they want to sell it. but Neymar is still comfortable, he won't go because no other club wants to pay him a high salary, maybe if Neymar has to go, Hollywood is good because his acting is good also.

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Reportedly it is true that PSG tried to persuade Man City to exchange Neymar with Bernardo Silva, but Man City immediately rejected the offer.
It is natural that Man City refused PSG's offer, not because Neymar is not a good player, but Man City does not need Neymar. Man City still have
Jack Grealish and also Phil Foden who can play on the left, where Neymar plays in that position. After all, Guardiola said he still needed
the services of Bernardo Silva, so it is very likely that Bernardo Silva will not move to any club.

First of all, Neymar is over 30s so he is not good choice for a long plan. Second, you are right that Manchester City has many good players and they don't actually need Neymar. Even they are not too good in the past season, they are still good enough and Manchester City can use them without interest in Neymar. Lastly Pep does not like players who are unprofessional and don't take care of their bodies and obey club rules. Neymar is not a favorite player with Pep's management philosophy.

I don't see the reason why they should be exchanging Neymar for Bernardo Silva. Neymar is someone who is considered a “has been”. He has not been able to perform to his standards at PSG. And bringing in Neymar to the team obviously creates a lot more competition in the team itself as you already mentioned.

So that is not going to be a situation that Manchester City wants to find themselves in. What I like about Manchester City is that they are trying to put togethe a balanced squad rather than making a squad that is all about attacking players like PSG. If PSG also tried to make a balanced squad, they wouldn't have to work so hard to sell Neymar right now.

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The performance of the trio at PSG is going to be the thing that we are going to be very curious about. Messi and Neymar especially will need to show much better performances to be able to help the team reach their goal in the Champions League especially. They are already a huge favourite for the title in the Ligue 1. Neymar is staying as it seems so he should do his best for the team. I hope that he doesn't have any serious injury this time. Messi improved his performance a lot after some time. But he still needs to do better than this. Maybe it isn't easy for him to go back to his times at Barcelona but PSG need his best now.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 21, 2022, 02:41:58 PM

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PSG has won 2-1 from Kawasaki Frontale from Japan pre season tour yesterday that PSG were playing with their several key players especially in the forward line that i saw Galtier using 3 forward players Messi, Mbappe and Neymar but from all of them only Messi can score goal however i think PSG should be can win more than 2 goals because during the match they made several attempts to score goals and next match on Saturday their opponent is Urawa Reds

Messi scored a lucky goal when the ball hit the defender but its still a goal. With how aggresive they played in this friendly they werent wasting themselfs. Kawasaki Frontale also played a really good match against PSG and showed they are at a really big level aswell

But in this case, even if they win, of course there are still some improvements to be made, such as when facing a counterattack and not being too hasty in attacking because this is indeed one of the things they have to improve.
other than that I don't see any flaws from their players because it's possible that the levels are also different so for ball control and the passes provided are very good.

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