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Quote from: Falconer on July 17, 2022, 01:55:16 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2022, 12:17:22 AM

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

I don't think so, Ligue 1 remains competitive but maybe not as competitive as other leagues like the Premier League if it is based on the intensity of play between teams. Just like Serie A, when Juventus dominated the title for more than 5 seasons in a row, do you think it is a competitive league? Manchester City have also done it in the last 5 seasons in the Premier League, isn't that annoying?

By meaning on how psg have far more better players statistically than the rest of league 1 teams makes everyone around the globe thinks that it's a farmer league, it's not fair league and it's not a competitive one as it's easy to guess which one will win the game when psg play.

When you can guess it easily and the odds itself on the market shows how low the chance of any teams against psg, it's getting boring day by day.

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Quote from: Falconer on July 17, 2022, 01:55:16 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2022, 12:17:22 AM

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

I don't think so, Ligue 1 remains competitive but maybe not as competitive as other leagues like the Premier League if it is based on the intensity of play between teams. Just like Serie A, when Juventus dominated the title for more than 5 seasons in a row, do you think it is a competitive league? Manchester City have also done it in the last 5 seasons in the Premier League, isn't that annoying?

Yeah that was quite annoying you right but was way more of a competitive competition than the league 1 I bet you the winner this time around is still going to be PSG retaining the title. This is more boring the a the premier league.
And when it comes to competition in the Champions League they don't go too far expect dome seasons ago which they did against Bayern Munich that was the last time they ever cam close to playing the champions league final. Can Lillie or Monaco become the shocker by winning these new season, I'll be so pleased.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on July 17, 2022, 10:39:15 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2022, 07:01:59 AM

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

let's look at the history of great coaches who have coached PSG, the most highlighted is ancelotti, he has coached PSG for 2 seasons but PSG is still not able to get the UCL trophy

This "cohesiveness" is something that until now has been difficult for us to find at PSG, each player has a high ego (because they have high values and salaries), it is difficult to build a solid partnership, and all fans hope that in the hands of Galtier, each player's ego can be overcome. muffled by him

Not all great coaches will be able to lift the team's performance in this matter because the compatibility between coaches and players can still be a factor there.
We can take the example of Tuchle who failed to win the Champions League title at PSG but succeeded at Chelsea. Another example is when he said Mourinho, who was said to be a coach with The Special One title but still failed with MU.
The fact in this case compatibility is also an important factor.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2022, 12:17:22 AM

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

I don't think so, Ligue 1 remains competitive but maybe not as competitive as other leagues like the Premier League if it is based on the intensity of play between teams. Just like Serie A, when Juventus dominated the title for more than 5 seasons in a row, do you think it is a competitive league? Manchester City have also done it in the last 5 seasons in the Premier League, isn't that annoying?

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They don't seem to be signing many players for this season because it's clear that the arrivals of Vitinha and Nuno Mendes and Danilo Pereira have also taken a lot of their money, not to mention the extension of Mbappe's contract which is indeed an astonishing one in my opinion.
As for the problem of the Champions League, their target is always there, but I have seen some news that the PSG officials will not be too ambitious with the Champions League in Galtier's first season.

On top of that, they didn't lose too many players, so they do not feel like they need more players. They already had a good team last season, and they had Nuno Mendes before as well. All they want right now is to repeat last year. Sure it wasn't a great year that ended with UCL for them, but it was a good enough year. This is why I believe they will be doing fine enough.

The team was good, they just lost to Real Madrid who went on to win the whole thing, which isn't a shock to anyone. If they could play with the same roster but play better, they should be able to get something out of this year. Many teams want the same thing, title at the league and the UCL cup, it will be tough.

Getting the title in Ligue 1 has become a fairly common thing actually and it's already in the grip if roughly speaking now that they don't have any rivals at the moment.
But if that's the case, they certainly won't be satisfied, because what's the difference between them and last season if their achievements just end there. Even though there is no obligation to win the Champions League for Galtier but of course they still intend to do that.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2022, 07:01:59 AM

Quote from: minairia3 on July 17, 2022, 04:53:22 AM

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

nothing less than the squad that PSG have at the moment, maybe the coach was the only reason for their failure in the Champions League but I don't think they should change the coach immediately, giving more time to build a stronger team might be a good solution.
in terms of the players that PSG have, they are strong on all fronts even they have a very good mix of young players and senior players.

PSG is a newly built team and it is unlikely that they will easily win many titles let alone the highest title in the blue continent of the Champions League, not all of that even though they have many star players. but have to build a strong team framework, it may take 3 years or more for them to be able to dominate Europe.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2022, 07:01:59 AM

Quote from: minairia3 on July 17, 2022, 04:53:22 AM

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

let's look at the history of great coaches who have coached PSG, the most highlighted is ancelotti, he has coached PSG for 2 seasons but PSG is still not able to get the UCL trophy

This "cohesiveness" is something that until now has been difficult for us to find at PSG, each player has a high ego (because they have high values and salaries), it is difficult to build a solid partnership, and all fans hope that in the hands of Galtier, each player's ego can be overcome. muffled by him

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 17, 2022, 04:53:22 AM

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

What do you think Paris Saint Germain lacked when they failed in the Champions League? Is their coach a "poor" strategy? Because if you look at the players, it's clear they have a lot of quality players.
In my opinion, Paris Saint Germain failed to build harmony and chemistry between the players. Things like that become a problem, because no matter how good a player is, it will look useless.

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Quote from: minairia3 on July 17, 2022, 04:53:22 AM

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

The coach always plays a big role in the team, and this is especially true for PSG, because here, in addition to a good strategy, also need to manage players who have a very high opinion of themselves and perhaps at some points they think they know better what they need to do. Here we again return to the question of the authority of the coach in the team. Luck is also important, if you look at Real Madrid, I can say that they were able to win thanks to a lot of luck!

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Why the French giants haven't won the Champions League, despite having a star-studded team.

I can answer that with a question: why Manchester City didn't win Champions League although they have one of the best squad? Why Bayern didn't make it so far in CL although dominating Bundesliga by far and having many stars?
It isn't a matter of how much good players you have, it is a matter of how coherent is the players in every game, how tactically good is the coach and how much injuries they have in addition to how many mistakes were made especially in case of lack of concentration due to exhaustion.
Real Madrid won its game although being behind thanks to the lack of vigilance of their opponents when facing the dangerous offence of RM.. Ancelotti made mistakes but their rivals did worst. That's football after all.

One of the most plausible reasons is because the level of League 1 competition is relatively low, so it is difficult for PSG and even very difficult to win the Champions League even though they already have many star players. The low quality of League 1 competition from other top leagues could make it difficult for PSG to win the Champions League trophy, because PSG will face much more difficult opponents in the Champions League competition.
The factor of a coach who is inexperienced in the UCL competition can also be another reason, PSG has no difficulty winning the League 1 trophy with any coach, because the caste of the event is very much different from the Champions League.

Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

Ligue 1 I don't think is in the same level of the Premier League,La Liga or Serie A but yes it is one of the 5 major leagues in Europe.I think for PSG not winning the Champions League is more a psychological problem rather than an obstacle in their quality as a team.We all know now with the coming of Messi and the other players they have,they are strong contenders,last year they were eliminated by Real Madrid which happens to be the team that won the last season Champions League.I agree though a great amount of luck is needed for any team to win the Champions League.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 16, 2022, 06:40:10 PM

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Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

The Ligue 1 isn't a low-quality league indeed. Maybe the general quality is not as good as the Premier League but it is still one of the biggest leagues. When it comes to luck I agree with it as well. Having one of the best lineups in the tournament isn't enough. You need to be lucky as well. For example Real Madrid's comeback against Manchester City was really epic and their luck also helped there a lot.

To do well on a platform like the Champions League, you definitely need an experienced coach. PSG's players were talented but their match strategy was poor. So there was no consistency in PSG's performance last season. If you want to win the title in a competitive place like the Champions League, there must be the consistency of performance. At the same time the help of luck is needed. But what is most needed is good match strategy.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 16, 2022, 06:40:10 PM

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Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

The Ligue 1 isn't a low-quality league indeed. Maybe the general quality is not as good as the Premier League but it is still one of the biggest leagues. When it comes to luck I agree with it as well. Having one of the best lineups in the tournament isn't enough. You need to be lucky as well. For example Real Madrid's comeback against Manchester City was really epic and their luck also helped there a lot.

The problem is believe it or not and admit it or not still at this time Ligue 1 even though it is still good for the top league there but still this league is a farmers league for most people because of the lack of competition there.
It's very difficult for Ligue 1 to say it's competitive there because it's almost difficult to happen, and even though they are in the top 5 leagues because there are still some big players there I think if nothing else then I can guarantee the quality of Ligue 1 will be very good. slumped.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 16, 2022, 06:25:37 PM

Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

The Ligue 1 isn't a low-quality league indeed. Maybe the general quality is not as good as the Premier League but it is still one of the biggest leagues. When it comes to luck I agree with it as well. Having one of the best lineups in the tournament isn't enough. You need to be lucky as well. For example Real Madrid's comeback against Manchester City was really epic and their luck also helped there a lot.

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Quote from: judas on July 16, 2022, 03:39:25 PM

I also doubt Christophe Galtier for PSG but we don't have any other choice than waiting and seeing what he will do. I always defended that PSG needed a very experienced and successful manager like Zinedine Zidane. But they made a surprising decision and signed a very inexperienced manager like Galtier. I just hope that he makes all of us become wrong about him. I would love to see a challenging PSG for the Champions League title this time. This squad really deserves it.

I totaly agree with you when i heard that galtier was going to be psg manager i was shocked and confused since it was unexpected and one of the question i had is will he be able to manage such a club filled with superstars, i guess we will find out soon.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 16, 2022, 10:43:50 AM

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Why the French giants haven't won the Champions League, despite having a star-studded team.

I can answer that with a question: why Manchester City didn't win Champions League although they have one of the best squad? Why Bayern didn't make it so far in CL although dominating Bundesliga by far and having many stars?
It isn't a matter of how much good players you have, it is a matter of how coherent is the players in every game, how tactically good is the coach and how much injuries they have in addition to how many mistakes were made especially in case of lack of concentration due to exhaustion.
Real Madrid won its game although being behind thanks to the lack of vigilance of their opponents when facing the dangerous offence of RM.. Ancelotti made mistakes but their rivals did worst. That's football after all.

One of the most plausible reasons is because the level of League 1 competition is relatively low, so it is difficult for PSG and even very difficult to win the Champions League even though they already have many star players. The low quality of League 1 competition from other top leagues could make it difficult for PSG to win the Champions League trophy, because PSG will face much more difficult opponents in the Champions League competition.
The factor of a coach who is inexperienced in the UCL competition can also be another reason, PSG has no difficulty winning the League 1 trophy with any coach, because the caste of the event is very much different from the Champions League.

Ligue 1 is on the same level as the other leagues, this is not a good excuse for PSG not being able to win the champions league. We can't forget that Porto (Portugal's team) won the Champions League even without having great players, they were being coached by Mourinho. City have a good coach and good players and they have a strong league (the premier league) but still they can't win the champions league. I usually say that winning the champions league is a matter of getting lucky

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Quote from: judas on July 16, 2022, 03:39:25 PM

I also doubt Christophe Galtier for PSG but we don't have any other choice than waiting and seeing what he will do. I always defended that PSG needed a very experienced and successful manager like Zinedine Zidane. But they made a surprising decision and signed a very inexperienced manager like Galtier. I just hope that he makes all of us become wrong about him. I would love to see a challenging PSG for the Champions League title this time. This squad really deserves it.

This kind of doubt may be reasonable because you have expectations about Zidane who has already become one of the very best and proven coaches for the top league but Galtier is actually still very good in my opinion even though from experience the Champions League is still very minimal but sometimes things like this become a problem. good because there are some things that can happen and it is possible that the term from zero to hero will be attached to Galtier.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 16, 2022, 08:19:49 AM

PSG have signed two players so far and these are Vitinha and Nuno Mendes. They have spent 80 million euros in total but I don't have any doubt that they have much more money left in their budget. However they aren't rushing their transfers now. We still haven't seen a big move from them. Maybe it would be nice for them to consolidate the team more with big transfers now. However their main problem was with the management and they have made their move for that as well. Time will tell how they will play in the CL this time.

They don't seem to be signing many players for this season because it's clear that the arrivals of Vitinha and Nuno Mendes and Danilo Pereira have also taken a lot of their money, not to mention the extension of Mbappe's contract which is indeed an astonishing one in my opinion.
As for the problem of the Champions League, their target is always there, but I have seen some news that the PSG officials will not be too ambitious with the Champions League in Galtier's first season.

On top of that, they didn't lose too many players, so they do not feel like they need more players. They already had a good team last season, and they had Nuno Mendes before as well. All they want right now is to repeat last year. Sure it wasn't a great year that ended with UCL for them, but it was a good enough year. This is why I believe they will be doing fine enough.

The team was good, they just lost to Real Madrid who went on to win the whole thing, which isn't a shock to anyone. If they could play with the same roster but play better, they should be able to get something out of this year. Many teams want the same thing, title at the league and the UCL cup, it will be tough.

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Quote from: judas on July 16, 2022, 03:39:25 PM

I also doubt Christophe Galtier for PSG but we don't have any other choice than waiting and seeing what he will do. I always defended that PSG needed a very experienced and successful manager like Zinedine Zidane. But they made a surprising decision and signed a very inexperienced manager like Galtier. I just hope that he makes all of us become wrong about him. I would love to see a challenging PSG for the Champions League title this time. This squad really deserves it.

PSG needed an experienced coach like Zidane. But Zidane did not accept PSG's offer. Christophe Galtier may not be as experienced as Zidane. But he has the ability. He won the Ligue 1 title with mediocre teams like Lille. Maybe he can do better with a strong team like PSG. But while Christophe Galtier has the ability, he lacks experience.

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I also doubt Christophe Galtier for PSG but we don't have any other choice than waiting and seeing what he will do. I always defended that PSG needed a very experienced and successful manager like Zinedine Zidane. But they made a surprising decision and signed a very inexperienced manager like Galtier. I just hope that he makes all of us become wrong about him. I would love to see a challenging PSG for the Champions League title this time. This squad really deserves it.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 16, 2022, 08:19:49 AM

PSG have signed two players so far and these are Vitinha and Nuno Mendes. They have spent 80 million euros in total but I don't have any doubt that they have much more money left in their budget. However they aren't rushing their transfers now. We still haven't seen a big move from them. Maybe it would be nice for them to consolidate the team more with big transfers now. However their main problem was with the management and they have made their move for that as well. Time will tell how they will play in the CL this time.

We can only guess. Last season they had a coach who rarely played in European competition. I think that's one of the factors they failed. They have a lot of good players but don't have an experienced coach in Europe. This season they have changed coach, Christophe Galtier. Christophe Galtier also looks like Pochetino, not much experience in Europe. But I don't know what the future holds, but I'm still not too sure about Christophe Galtier.

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