French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 1312.

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Quote from: kayiboyu on September 20, 2021, 11:14:09 AM

We had a great game yesterday: PSG 2 -1 Lyon. PSG were being favored against Lyon of course. We watched the Messi - Neymar - Mbappe trio in this game too. This time, Mbappe was the centre-forward and Neymar was the left winger again. But Messi didn't play as a winger. We watched him right behind Mbappe like the old times as he was playing in that position at Barcelona. But unfortunately, Messi didn't make any assist or score a goal. And he was not happy to be replaced by Hakimi in the 76th minute. PSG still managed to win this by Icardi's goal in the last minutes.

No player is thrilled with a substitution, especially the likes of Messi, but that doesn't mean disrespect for the coach. He has done the same with Guardiola and Enrique in the past. This attitude can have a negative impact on the atmosphere in the team, and I wouldn't be surprised if the coach gets fired at the end of the season.

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I understand Messi,he is probobly the biggest player in football history,him and Ronaldo dont like to be changed.When did you see Messi get subed in Barca,o most never.So he wants all the 90 minutes to show what he has and to score or assist and even to sub him in a big game like this makes him even more angry.But yeah he needs to adapt fast.

If Messi uses a professional approach to business, then no matter how great he is (or no matter how great he thinks he is), he should respect the coach and even more so not to bring disagreements to the public. Plus, I'm sure that now, in terms of the strength of the game, he is definitely not the top-1 in PSG, so there is no point in arguing with the coach, the best way to prove something is to play well.

I think in that match messi played quite well and was able to create lots of chances , but unfortunately some golden opportunities couldn't be converted into goals so they were just wasted, I was also surprised by messi exit in the 76th minute, but I think the coach knows better what the team needed at that time so that messi shouldn't have to protest against Pochettino's decision, after all, after the match was finished, Pochettino had revealed the reason for messi substitution was to protect him from possible injury because in fact messi had not fully adapted to the French league style of play.

Messi may not be happy about his situation, but Pochettino is just scared of his injury. Whenever Pochettino chooses to substitute players in the interest of the team, he has every right to do it. Messi should settle in with a new team and a new style. The coach made a good decision if he thinks someone else might be better at this or if he is changing tactics to win the match. In the 76th minute, Messi was replaced, and his reaction was not bad. I'm just glad Messi played well and the coach is not scared to sub him.

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We had a great game yesterday: PSG 2 -1 Lyon. PSG were being favored against Lyon of course. We watched the Messi - Neymar - Mbappe trio in this game too. This time, Mbappe was the centre-forward and Neymar was the left winger again. But Messi didn't play as a winger. We watched him right behind Mbappe like the old times as he was playing in that position at Barcelona. But unfortunately, Messi didn't make any assist or score a goal. And he was not happy to be replaced by Hakimi in the 76th minute. PSG still managed to win this by Icardi's goal in the last minutes.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 20, 2021, 08:04:07 AM

I understand Messi,he is probobly the biggest player in football history,him and Ronaldo dont like to be changed.When did you see Messi get subed in Barca,o most never.So he wants all the 90 minutes to show what he has and to score or assist and even to sub him in a big game like this makes him even more angry.But yeah he needs to adapt fast.

If Messi uses a professional approach to business, then no matter how great he is (or no matter how great he thinks he is), he should respect the coach and even more so not to bring disagreements to the public. Plus, I'm sure that now, in terms of the strength of the game, he is definitely not the top-1 in PSG, so there is no point in arguing with the coach, the best way to prove something is to play well.

I think in that match messi played quite well and was able to create lots of chances , but unfortunately some golden opportunities couldn't be converted into goals so they were just wasted, I was also surprised by messi exit in the 76th minute, but I think the coach knows better what the team needed at that time so that messi shouldn't have to protest against Pochettino's decision, after all, after the match was finished, Pochettino had revealed the reason for messi substitution was to protect him from possible injury because in fact messi had not fully adapted to the French league style of play.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 20, 2021, 08:04:07 AM

I understand Messi,he is probobly the biggest player in football history,him and Ronaldo dont like to be changed.When did you see Messi get subed in Barca,o most never.So he wants all the 90 minutes to show what he has and to score or assist and even to sub him in a big game like this makes him even more angry.But yeah he needs to adapt fast.

If Messi uses a professional approach to business, then no matter how great he is (or no matter how great he thinks he is), he should respect the coach and even more so not to bring disagreements to the public. Plus, I'm sure that now, in terms of the strength of the game, he is definitely not the top-1 in PSG, so there is no point in arguing with the coach, the best way to prove something is to play well.

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PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

it could affect him, he wasn't happy at all about being substituted in the match when the score was 1-1, but PSG managed to score and win without him, maybe Pochettino had a plan it worked who knows! it could affect Messi since he's new in PSG and didn't play a lot yet and he gets substituted when they were 1-1, it gives the intention that he's not that important for them.

If I understood the hype on social media correctly, did he refuse to shake hands with the coach after he was unexpectedly replaced? If so, I don't think that this tension between Messi and the coach will have a positive effect on his game (and possibly other players). I think Messi needs to get used to the fact that he is not the top-1 in the team and try to reclaim this place by playing.

Messi did look disappointed and refused to shake hands with Pochettino when he had to be substituted. Messi should respect the coach, although
I understand Messi is actually frustrated by failing to score in the PSG vs Lyon match. Messi should understand PSG is different from Barcelona,
because at PSG he is not the only big star there. So Messi can't expect to always play 90 minutes, unless Messi can adapt and show his
best performance. It looks like Messi is under pressure with a lot of people expecting him to score goals for PSG, but Messi is also a human being
who needs time to adapt.

I understand Messi,he is probobly the biggest player in football history,him and Ronaldo dont like to be changed.When did you see Messi get subed in Barca,o most never.So he wants all the 90 minutes to show what he has and to score or assist and even to sub him in a big game like this makes him even more angry.But yeah he needs to adapt fast.

Mario Pochettino's second-half substitution by pulling Lionel Messi off and being replaced by Achraf Hakimi did prove to be very quick as they could overturn the lead and secure the three points over Olympique Lyon at home, but the substitution left Messi feeling disappointed where he didn't play the full 90 minutes, but if he's a big player then he has to accept all the coach's decisions because this is a team need so whoever has to be replaced if he's left behind like PSG experienced last night, I think Leo Messi just needs an adaptation process to can score his first goal at PSG this season

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on September 20, 2021, 07:48:44 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 20, 2021, 05:16:10 AM

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PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

it could affect him, he wasn't happy at all about being substituted in the match when the score was 1-1, but PSG managed to score and win without him, maybe Pochettino had a plan it worked who knows! it could affect Messi since he's new in PSG and didn't play a lot yet and he gets substituted when they were 1-1, it gives the intention that he's not that important for them.

If I understood the hype on social media correctly, did he refuse to shake hands with the coach after he was unexpectedly replaced? If so, I don't think that this tension between Messi and the coach will have a positive effect on his game (and possibly other players). I think Messi needs to get used to the fact that he is not the top-1 in the team and try to reclaim this place by playing.

Messi did look disappointed and refused to shake hands with Pochettino when he had to be substituted. Messi should respect the coach, although
I understand Messi is actually frustrated by failing to score in the PSG vs Lyon match. Messi should understand PSG is different from Barcelona,
because at PSG he is not the only big star there. So Messi can't expect to always play 90 minutes, unless Messi can adapt and show his
best performance. It looks like Messi is under pressure with a lot of people expecting him to score goals for PSG, but Messi is also a human being
who needs time to adapt.

I understand Messi,he is probobly the biggest player in football history,him and Ronaldo dont like to be changed.When did you see Messi get subed in Barca,o most never.So he wants all the 90 minutes to show what he has and to score or assist and even to sub him in a big game like this makes him even more angry.But yeah he needs to adapt fast.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on September 19, 2021, 07:32:41 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 19, 2021, 04:53:57 PM

PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

it could affect him, he wasn't happy at all about being substituted in the match when the score was 1-1, but PSG managed to score and win without him, maybe Pochettino had a plan it worked who knows! it could affect Messi since he's new in PSG and didn't play a lot yet and he gets substituted when they were 1-1, it gives the intention that he's not that important for them.

If I understood the hype on social media correctly, did he refuse to shake hands with the coach after he was unexpectedly replaced? If so, I don't think that this tension between Messi and the coach will have a positive effect on his game (and possibly other players). I think Messi needs to get used to the fact that he is not the top-1 in the team and try to reclaim this place by playing.

Messi did look disappointed and refused to shake hands with Pochettino when he had to be substituted. Messi should respect the coach, although
I understand Messi is actually frustrated by failing to score in the PSG vs Lyon match. Messi should understand PSG is different from Barcelona,
because at PSG he is not the only big star there. So Messi can't expect to always play 90 minutes, unless Messi can adapt and show his
best performance. It looks like Messi is under pressure with a lot of people expecting him to score goals for PSG, but Messi is also a human being
who needs time to adapt.

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Too bad Messi hasn't gotten he's name on the score sheet yet.
Hopefully soon, he'll sure do.
He deserves more playing time for crying out loud.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on September 19, 2021, 07:32:41 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 19, 2021, 04:53:57 PM

PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

it could affect him, he wasn't happy at all about being substituted in the match when the score was 1-1, but PSG managed to score and win without him, maybe Pochettino had a plan it worked who knows! it could affect Messi since he's new in PSG and didn't play a lot yet and he gets substituted when they were 1-1, it gives the intention that he's not that important for them.

If I understood the hype on social media correctly, did he refuse to shake hands with the coach after he was unexpectedly replaced? If so, I don't think that this tension between Messi and the coach will have a positive effect on his game (and possibly other players). I think Messi needs to get used to the fact that he is not the top-1 in the team and try to reclaim this place by playing.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 19, 2021, 09:26:23 PM

Lyon started the game well, they scored with Paqueta but then Paris Saint-Germain tied with a cheap penalty, then won the game with Icardi's header in extra time.
When Messi was removed from the game, his body language tells he was very angry. I couldn't understand why he came out.
I think the penalty decision was not correct, the match could've finished as a draw. Paris Saint-Germain won all of their six games after this match. It's been an easy year for them.

Messi just joined PSG in very last day of the transfer season and he did not join pre-season trainings with PSG. He needs more time to familiarize with new tactics, new coach and new team mates.

Messi also need to find a new house in Paris. Living in luxurious hotel is not a solution for his career. 2 or 3 years in Paris in hotel, he would be mad.

Messi has outstanding ability and he only needs more time. Because if you look at his performance in Arghentina in the last national call, he is still a good player. Ageing does not affect Messi too much and the problem is his adaptation to a new team.

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Lyon started the game well, they scored with Paqueta but then Paris Saint-Germain tied with a cheap penalty, then won the game with Icardi's header in extra time.
When Messi was removed from the game, his body language tells he was very angry. I couldn't understand why he came out.
I think the penalty decision was not correct, the match could've finished as a draw. Paris Saint-Germain won all of their six games after this match. It's been an easy year for them.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on September 19, 2021, 07:32:41 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 19, 2021, 04:53:57 PM

PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

it could affect him, he wasn't happy at all about being substituted in the match when the score was 1-1, but PSG managed to score and win without him, maybe Pochettino had a plan it worked who knows! it could affect Messi since he's new in PSG and didn't play a lot yet and he gets substituted when they were 1-1, it gives the intention that he's not that important for them.

I don't think that this should affect Messi's game, but the fact remains that Messi was very unhappy when Pochettino replaced him and the photo with the expression of the Argentine player's face has already become a new meme. It is also quite significant that the disgruntled Messi did not shake the head coach's hand after the replacement. Therefore, it is still desirable for both the team and the microclimate in the team that Messi starts scoring as early as possible. And Pochettino has already begun to reap the first fruits of the situation when there are a lot of superstars in the team and they all need to find a place in the squad and at the same time win matches, while getting dissatisfaction with players who do not get into the squad.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 19, 2021, 04:53:57 PM

PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

it could affect him, he wasn't happy at all about being substituted in the match when the score was 1-1, but PSG managed to score and win without him, maybe Pochettino had a plan it worked who knows! it could affect Messi since he's new in PSG and didn't play a lot yet and he gets substituted when they were 1-1, it gives the intention that he's not that important for them.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 19, 2021, 04:45:33 PM

It's been difficult for Messi to blend into PSG game play and French football, maybe because he has played only in Spain the most of his career, I think he needs a bit more time to get comfortable. The major topic for Messi critics will be that after he was removed from the game, PSG finally scored. Do you think it's a coincidence or the coach was right to take him off?

He has already played with Neymar at Barcelona so it shouldn't take him long to adapt we don't know what the exact reason for messi his contribution has not been seen at PSG

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Do you think it's a coincidence or the coach was right to take him off?

The coach plays with strategy, he knows what happens in the game so every decision is part of the strategy and I don't agree if it's called a coincidence

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PSG took the lead as soon as Messi was benched.

Quite a difficult game for PSG, according to statistical indicators, the game was almost equal, I can imagine the nerves of the betters who made a bet on PSG. Messi was very close to scoring in the first half, but the goalkeeper played great. Interestingly, the situation with the fact that he still cannot start to score will put pressure on him in the next matches?

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It's been difficult for Messi to blend into PSG game play and French football, maybe because he has played only in Spain the most of his career, I think he needs a bit more time to get comfortable. The major topic for Messi critics will be that after he was removed from the game, PSG finally scored. Do you think it's a coincidence or the coach was right to take him off?

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 19, 2021, 03:22:48 PM

PSG is playing against Lyon today. Lyon is not the weakest team. It is not possible to win against Lyon without good performance. Although PSG have won 5 of Ligue 1 matches so far. However, their performance against Brugge in the Champions League match was not good. So today coach Pochettino has applied a new formation. It will take some time for the players to adjust to the new formation. But in order to strengthen the team, now the coach has to do some experiments with the team.

the performance shown by PSG against club brugge in the Champions League was very disappointing where they only got a draw in that match, but in the match against Lyon which is currently underway we can say it is a very tight match that is presented in League One but we are very confident in the performance of Mario pochettino's team to secure three points at their headquarters at the parc Des princes stadium, because for Mario pochettino himself it is not easy to suppress the egos of their star players, so it is very influential on the field, especially with the performance of his players , especially considering that olympique Lyon is not a weak team, they can even surprise you in the match against Paris Saint-Germain

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PSG is playing against Lyon today. Lyon is not the weakest team. It is not possible to win against Lyon without good performance. Although PSG have won 5 of Ligue 1 matches so far. However, their performance against Brugge in the Champions League match was not good. So today coach Pochettino has applied a new formation. It will take some time for the players to adjust to the new formation. But in order to strengthen the team, now the coach has to do some experiments with the team.

Last minute of first half is in progress, and I was not expecting defence like this from Lyon because they have not good start, but today they are doing good job even opponent is very strong and Messi is also trying to have something for PSG but nothing serious happening in first half, hopefully we will be able to have some good number of goals from both teams.

PSG attack is very lethal but in last few matches they are unable to give result as they are on papers It's really strange thing happening De Maria, Naymar, Messi and Mbappe what you want after these all.

The score is still 1-1 and it seems PSG are still having trouble breaking through the Lyon defense and this is not underestimated by PSG because we know Lyon is a great team in its league but I see Messi and his friends are still trying to score goals.

But what I see is Messi still hasn't found the right kick to score his goal, does this need adaptation again? I think the fans want to see how Messi's first goal at PSG will be, whether in this game it will be, because there's still some time left.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 19, 2021, 03:22:48 PM

PSG is playing against Lyon today. Lyon is not the weakest team. It is not possible to win against Lyon without good performance. Although PSG have won 5 of Ligue 1 matches so far. However, their performance against Brugge in the Champions League match was not good. So today coach Pochettino has applied a new formation. It will take some time for the players to adjust to the new formation. But in order to strengthen the team, now the coach has to do some experiments with the team.

Last minute of first half is in progress, and I was not expecting defence like this from Lyon because they have not good start, but today they are doing good job even opponent is very strong and Messi is also trying to have something for PSG but nothing serious happening in first half, hopefully we will be able to have some good number of goals from both teams.

PSG attack is very lethal but in last few matches they are unable to give result as they are on papers It's really strange thing happening De Maria, Naymar, Messi and Mbappe what you want after these all.

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