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Then Paris Sant German football club will make history if that should happen and would be the first and only club to have signed two world best players in the history of football and have both play together in same team, plus having Neymar Jr and Kylian Mbape both in the club, that will mean disaster for other clubs in French lique 1 and including other European football clubs, because I don't see why the Coach and the team with that kind of squad will not crush any team they come across. Hence they will be tittled celebrity players Club.

However I don't think that Paris Saint German needs the services of Christiano Ronaldo in the club in order to be successful this season and to help them lift the UEFA champions league trophy, upon having the trio ,Messi, Neymar and Mbape "MNM" already in the club.

PSG is a team of stars, but in such teams there is often a problem of player interaction, because the club has a lot of money and can afford to constantly buy new players, and for the team to interact well, the players need time to understand each other. PSG is just a team, the same people play there as in any other team, so they will lose like any other big team.

Paris SG has an excellent squad. They have one of the best offensive lines in the world right now. Neymar, Mbappe and Messi are playing perfectly. Even before the match starts, the psychological superiority is on the side of Paris SG. They won 3-0 this week and continue to lead the league. They scored 24 goals and conceded only 4 goals. It's obvious how well they get along. I think Paris SG is one of the big favorites for UCL this year.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on September 04, 2022, 08:35:25 PM

So far or especially this season PSG have never lost a match except for only playing one draw. But defeat is not impossible for PSG if the star players continue to put their egos forward without cooperating with every player in the team. Because in a team it's not about how many stars to see, but about how valid the cooperation of the players in carrying out the strategy or direction from their coach even though with the presence of star players the strength of the team can also increase.

Even though PSG's strength is far above other clubs, it is very difficult not to lose in a season and even if it is PSG, they will still feel defeat even if it can only count fingers.
But it's quite natural for something like this to happen because there is no opponent who is truly equal to them and defeat is one thing that can but is difficult to happen.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 04, 2022, 03:46:52 PM

One of the things I wonder is if we will see Messi and Ronaldo playing for PSG at the same time in the future. As you might have heard there were some rumours about Ronaldo to join PSG in the past. But PSG weren't in need of a transfer like this not to change the dream trio. However these days aren't going well between Mbappe and Neymar as you know. Let's say Neymar left the team at the end of the season then there might be a chance to see Ronaldo here maybe who knows. I've never dreamt Messi and Ronaldo in the same team before. Maybe we will figure out how it will be if PSG make such move for Ronaldo.

As we all know transfer window is already closed so most chances any things like this is not going to happen with PSG which is already having trouble with three stars are in their squad which creating too many controversies will not take any chance like this with they are already trying to offload some big player like Neymar, but it's not good happening to them even his form is amazing, and he can do much better than current statics but personal issues and attitude is having nothing positive for PSG right now with Champions League is also going to start in next few days.

If they are going to win this Champions League then surely too many issues can solve otherwise this club's future is now looking not impressive which we have right now under Qatar Foundation.

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Quote from: Inwestour on September 04, 2022, 05:16:16 AM

PSG is a team of stars, but in such teams there is often a problem of player interaction, because the club has a lot of money and can afford to constantly buy new players, and for the team to interact well, the players need time to understand each other. PSG is just a team, the same people play there as in any other team, so they will lose like any other big team.

So far or especially this season PSG have never lost a match except for only playing one draw. But defeat is not impossible for PSG if the star players continue to put their egos forward without cooperating with every player in the team. Because in a team it's not about how many stars to see, but about how valid the cooperation of the players in carrying out the strategy or direction from their coach even though with the presence of star players the strength of the team can also increase.

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Lyon are one of the impressive teams of this season. They finished last season at the 8th position as you know. But now a lot of things have changed about the team. Lacazette's coming back to the team being in the first place, the changes in the team have increased their strength very much. We are watching a team that are far stronger in offense compared to last season. Their defense is also quite solid as they are one of the least conceding teams now. The most important thing is to keep this effort throughout the season. They might be able to join the Champions League finally at the end.

Their biggest rendezvous is against PSG in a home match in two weeks. They drew with PSG 1-1 here the last time. If we see a strong effort by Lyon in this most difficult match of them then I can be more confident about a successful year for them.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 04, 2022, 02:10:26 PM

I am not entirely sure, he is great at PSG which means that he will have amazing Domestic career if he stays here, I am sure he will score as many as anyone can, he could reach to Messi levels for sure, maybe he will fail, but he "can", the potential is there with such a dominant team and a great striker.

Secondly he could be awesome in national team as well because he is great and plays with a great team, even though ronaldo scored a lot, and messi did too, they did not have a team as good as France if you ask me. Only question remaining would be UCL, and not like they are bad there neither, he could have good numbers. I am not saying he will be like Ronaldo, but he would be good enough that he would be top 5 IF he plays like this for another 10 years which he can if he works hard.

for Mbappe to reach the level of messi, ronaldo and neymar he would need to leave PSG and be in teams like barcelona or real madrid or even bayern and be lucky when being in one of these teams win more than twice the league champions and he would also need to be lucky for france to perform well in the world cup. PSG is a great team but only in france, when they are in the champions league playing against teams outside france I could see that they are not as superior as in france, maybe that scenario will change with this new coach. but i have my doubts

Montpellier 1 - 3 Lille

great victory for Lille, even though they were losing they managed to reverse the result, but the red card that the Montpellier player received was one of the biggest factors that helped Lille in that victory

AC Ajaccio 0 - 1 Lorient

this result was expected

Clermont Foot 2 - 0 Toulouse

was also an expected result

Brest 1 - 1 Strasbourg

for this game I already imagined that I wouldn't have many goals

Reims 1 - 1 Lens

another draw

Troyes 1 - 1 Rennes

and another draw

Nice 0 - 1 Monaco

this is a result that I also expected

had many games that ended in a draw

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it interesting to see how marseille can continue to match the points earned by PSG

- while NICE looked very disappointing, they lost 1-0 to monaco and that kept them in 16th position

Quote from: CLS63 on September 04, 2022, 03:46:52 PM

One of the things I wonder is if we will see Messi and Ronaldo playing for PSG at the same time in the future. As you might have heard there were some rumours about Ronaldo to join PSG in the past. But PSG weren't in need of a transfer like this not to change the dream trio. However these days aren't going well between Mbappe and Neymar as you know. Let's say Neymar left the team at the end of the season then there might be a chance to see Ronaldo here maybe who knows. I've never dreamt Messi and Ronaldo in the same team before. Maybe we will figure out how it will be if PSG make such move for Ronaldo.

I think CR7 to PSG will only be a rumor forever and will not come true, CR7 doesn't seem to fit PSG's pattern of play, he is more convinced that he will retire at MU

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One of the things I wonder is if we will see Messi and Ronaldo playing for PSG at the same time in the future. As you might have heard there were some rumours about Ronaldo to join PSG in the past. But PSG weren't in need of a transfer like this not to change the dream trio. However these days aren't going well between Mbappe and Neymar as you know. Let's say Neymar left the team at the end of the season then there might be a chance to see Ronaldo here maybe who knows. I've never dreamt Messi and Ronaldo in the same team before. Maybe we will figure out how it will be if PSG make such move for Ronaldo.

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I am not entirely sure, he is great at PSG which means that he will have amazing Domestic career if he stays here, I am sure he will score as many as anyone can, he could reach to Messi levels for sure, maybe he will fail, but he "can", the potential is there with such a dominant team and a great striker.

Secondly he could be awesome in national team as well because he is great and plays with a great team, even though ronaldo scored a lot, and messi did too, they did not have a team as good as France if you ask me. Only question remaining would be UCL, and not like they are bad there neither, he could have good numbers. I am not saying he will be like Ronaldo, but he would be good enough that he would be top 5 IF he plays like this for another 10 years which he can if he works hard.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 04, 2022, 09:06:56 AM

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Can this be considered a great achievement in a club that scores an average of 4 goals per game (and therefore dominate all rivals)? Everything is relative, I think that the vast majority of midfielders who play in the top divisions of the national championships would have shown no worse results when playing at PSG.

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No it can't be and this is why I specifically mentioned the champions league and the teams they might be facing there. I don't consider 10 goals in Ligue 1 the same as 10 goals in the Premier League. But I am sure that Messi could still play an amazing offensive midfield role for Manchester City. We won't find that out, but Messi still has the speed and extremely smart ideas to put other players into perfect action.

On another note though, I can understand Messi better than Mbappe. Signing a contract in Ligue 1 when all the best clubs in the world want you is less comprehensible. Messi has had his greatest times at Barcelona, but where will Mbappe end up one day? And will he still be able to write history? You don't really write history with PSG unless you win the champions league several times. His reason was the money.

Didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years Roll Eyes

Unfortunately, we will never see Messi in the Premier League, and now it would be very epic:

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As for Mbappe, he has every chance of finishing as Neymar, maybe even better due to his achievements with the national team, but he will never come close to the greatest players. Haaland is now on the right track, Mbappe is not.

I agree regarding Haaland being on the right track vs. Mbappe making questionable choices. Would be nice to see Haaland play some international tournaments with Norway as well.

You didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years? I am not sure we are talking about the same players, but his speed when it came to acceleration with the ball on his feet was one of a kind. Just watch his best goals. One of them being against Bilbao in Copa del rey, I think there is also a speed analysis somewhere on YouTube. Or the one against Real Madrid when he started at the midfield line. I am not talking about these goals when a player just kicks it forward 30 meters and then runs after it in Usain Bolt style. Speed with the ball on rather short distances. I'd say he was the fastest ever when you put together acceleration, ball control and stopping from full speed to zero, then accelerate again. Let me know if you know a player who has done that better and maybe even more often than Messi.

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2 goals made by mbappe are assists from messi, they are an amazing collaboration. There were also many experiments carried out by Neymar when Galtier sub Mbappe with himself (neymar) but it seemed that Neymar was not lucky.

troyes is currently leading 1-0 from rennes (via ugbe goal in minute '14), this is a good chance for troyes to get 3 points from today's match.

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A good win for lille team today with a 3 1 score against montpellier a well needed win for them to stay on the top five position, it was not easy on paper since they faced a team on a momentum with two huge wins with 9 goals scored but that first half red card made it easier for lille one the second one it was a total domination.

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Quote from: FanEagle on September 04, 2022, 05:41:38 AM

Honestly I have seen Messi passing to Mbappe for a score a few times this year already and it looks like it is getting more common. I am not sure how many assists Messi has to Mbappe, but if someone calculated I am sure it is over 5 already, and that is a huge deal because you do not see that kind of numbers that easily. Which if you ask me is a proof that they are getting along very well.

We also know that Neymar and Messi go along very well too, one question remaining seems to be Neymar vs Mbappe, but if Messi could bring that together or at least they could be professional about it, then this team seems to be quite impossible to stop by any team in the world, they are that good when they play 100%.

PSG are in one of their best form this season so far. Leo Messi already creating impact and teamwork in the team. Their are rumours cycling Mbappe having issues and gap with Neymar and Messi on the pitch. These players, Messi and Neymar are close enough, even not on the pitch, they go out together and catch fun on more events. I just think Mbappe is a little bit envy or jealous and that doesn't stop him from scoring goals. Leo Messi still assists him in scoring goals, he's leading with the highest number of goals in the club. They're professionals in games and try don't know how to score, with these trio, they have the best set of pair Frontlines in the league.

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Quote from: mv1986 on September 03, 2022, 11:22:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 03, 2022, 07:53:39 AM

Can this be considered a great achievement in a club that scores an average of 4 goals per game (and therefore dominate all rivals)? Everything is relative, I think that the vast majority of midfielders who play in the top divisions of the national championships would have shown no worse results when playing at PSG.

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No it can't be and this is why I specifically mentioned the champions league and the teams they might be facing there. I don't consider 10 goals in Ligue 1 the same as 10 goals in the Premier League. But I am sure that Messi could still play an amazing offensive midfield role for Manchester City. We won't find that out, but Messi still has the speed and extremely smart ideas to put other players into perfect action.

On another note though, I can understand Messi better than Mbappe. Signing a contract in Ligue 1 when all the best clubs in the world want you is less comprehensible. Messi has had his greatest times at Barcelona, but where will Mbappe end up one day? And will he still be able to write history? You don't really write history with PSG unless you win the champions league several times. His reason was the money.

Didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years Roll Eyes

Unfortunately, we will never see Messi in the Premier League, and now it would be very epic:

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https://twitter.com/trollfootball/status/1494009643236204544

As for Mbappe, he has every chance of finishing as Neymar, maybe even better due to his achievements with the national team, but he will never come close to the greatest players. Haaland is now on the right track, Mbappe is not.

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Quote from: xzone on September 04, 2022, 06:19:32 AM

We saw many goals in the Lyon match, they beat their opponents without any difficulty. They can pass very well on offense and allow us to watch good goals.
I'm not at all surprised that Lyon scored so many goals in this match because Angers are playing so badly. There is no player who can defend, everyone just watches the ball. In fact, some players don't even get upset when they score a goal. They have no chance in this league, they are a team that will never leave the relegation zone

As you said Angers are a weak team and played very badly, so it's not surprising if Lyon can finally win the game with a big score. In fact,
we can see match statistics showing how Lyon dominated the match with possession of the ball up to 65%. Not only is the performance of
Lyon's front line very good, but Lyon's midfield and back line are also very solid. Make Lyon look extraordinary against Angers.

Lyon started this season with a very good performance, hopefully this season Lyon can be in the top 5, so that next season they can play
in European competitions. So far Lyon managed to win 4 matches and 1 draw from 5 matches, now Lyon are in 3rd position with 13 points,
meaning that it is only 3 points different from PSG and Marseille. Lyon's big win against Angers has definitely made the Lyon players confidence
even higher, so I really hope Lyon will continue their positive form and at least be able to play consistently until the end of the season.

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We saw many goals in the Lyon match, they beat their opponents without any difficulty. They can pass very well on offense and allow us to watch good goals.
I'm not at all surprised that Lyon scored so many goals in this match because Angers are playing so badly. There is no player who can defend, everyone just watches the ball. In fact, some players don't even get upset when they score a goal. They have no chance in this league, they are a team that will never leave the relegation zone

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Honestly I have seen Messi passing to Mbappe for a score a few times this year already and it looks like it is getting more common. I am not sure how many assists Messi has to Mbappe, but if someone calculated I am sure it is over 5 already, and that is a huge deal because you do not see that kind of numbers that easily. Which if you ask me is a proof that they are getting along very well.

We also know that Neymar and Messi go along very well too, one question remaining seems to be Neymar vs Mbappe, but if Messi could bring that together or at least they could be professional about it, then this team seems to be quite impossible to stop by any team in the world, they are that good when they play 100%.

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Quote from: shogun47 on September 04, 2022, 05:15:50 AM

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Messi - Mbappe duo did a great job today and helped the team have a comfortable win by 3-0. I didn't see Neymar in the starting eleven this time as Galtier put Sarabia instead. I wonder if there was a special reason for that. Maybe it might be related to the recent transfer rumours and the problems between him and Mbappe. He entered the game in the second half in the place of Mbappe. Maybe these problems don't affect their results in the league much but they should work this out before things get serious in the Champions League.

In addition, Lyon were amazing today. They defeated Angers 5-0 and increased their points to 13. After a very troubling season they have improved their effort very much now. It is still too difficult for them to bother PSG for the title but their main goal would be finishing the season at no less than the second position.

Well PSG needs to test several associations and strategies before CL to be ready for all scenarios since their main objective is to take that title after all money spent.
Lyon scoring 5 goals was impressive.
For now, OM is still annoying PSG with 16 points. Both Lens and Lyon have 13 points and still lack 1 game. It is quite good to see such competitiveness!

I don't know whether this can really be considered a test. It's a bit interesting that he lets Messi play the full distance while bringing Neymar from the bench and taking Mbappe off since Messi is the oldest. Despite that he seems to be fit and without any physical issues. The thing is that PSG has less wake up moments where the get under pressure and understand that they need to step up their game. That is different in most other important European leagues where clubs understand quickly that if they don't win, someone else will and win the title in the end. If you miss this feeling for half a year and then go against the most serious competitors in Europe, that might sometimes be the tiny bit that PSG is lacking. What I do like is that Messi doesn't look tired or anything. He is motivated for now and fun to watch.

But Nantes who only played with 10 player from the 24th minute was like a win that was too low for PSG, should be with PSG's great composition of players they can at least win more. Don't care about Neymar and Mbappe, because it looks like their case has been resolved and after all Mbappe must have awareness because after all the young must respect the older. It's different if Neymar's attitude is a mistake then Mbappe might be able to fight him, but their problem is only about a goal they fight over a penalty kick which shouldn't be a case that lasts forever.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on September 04, 2022, 02:30:16 AM

Then Paris Sant German football club will make history if that should happen and would be the first and only club to have signed two world best players in the history of football and have both play together in same team, plus having Neymar Jr and Kylian Mbape both in the club, that will mean disaster for other clubs in French lique 1 and including other European football clubs, because I don't see why the Coach and the team with that kind of squad will not crush any team they come across. Hence they will be tittled celebrity players Club.

However I don't think that Paris Saint German needs the services of Christiano Ronaldo in the club in order to be successful this season and to help them lift the UEFA champions league trophy, upon having the trio ,Messi, Neymar and Mbape "MNM" already in the club.

PSG is a team of stars, but in such teams there is often a problem of player interaction, because the club has a lot of money and can afford to constantly buy new players, and for the team to interact well, the players need time to understand each other. PSG is just a team, the same people play there as in any other team, so they will lose like any other big team.

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Quote from: snipie on September 03, 2022, 06:01:09 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on September 03, 2022, 04:54:06 PM

Messi - Mbappe duo did a great job today and helped the team have a comfortable win by 3-0. I didn't see Neymar in the starting eleven this time as Galtier put Sarabia instead. I wonder if there was a special reason for that. Maybe it might be related to the recent transfer rumours and the problems between him and Mbappe. He entered the game in the second half in the place of Mbappe. Maybe these problems don't affect their results in the league much but they should work this out before things get serious in the Champions League.

In addition, Lyon were amazing today. They defeated Angers 5-0 and increased their points to 13. After a very troubling season they have improved their effort very much now. It is still too difficult for them to bother PSG for the title but their main goal would be finishing the season at no less than the second position.

Well PSG needs to test several associations and strategies before CL to be ready for all scenarios since their main objective is to take that title after all money spent.
Lyon scoring 5 goals was impressive.
For now, OM is still annoying PSG with 16 points. Both Lens and Lyon have 13 points and still lack 1 game. It is quite good to see such competitiveness!

I don't know whether this can really be considered a test. It's a bit interesting that he lets Messi play the full distance while bringing Neymar from the bench and taking Mbappe off since Messi is the oldest. Despite that he seems to be fit and without any physical issues. The thing is that PSG has less wake up moments where the get under pressure and understand that they need to step up their game. That is different in most other important European leagues where clubs understand quickly that if they don't win, someone else will and win the title in the end. If you miss this feeling for half a year and then go against the most serious competitors in Europe, that might sometimes be the tiny bit that PSG is lacking. What I do like is that Messi doesn't look tired or anything. He is motivated for now and fun to watch.

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