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Quote from: MAAManda on September 05, 2022, 12:45:23 PM

They are in 5th place in the Ligue 1 standings after beating Montpelier with a score of 1-3 at the Mosson Stadium, the good result they got was the impact of the red card received by Valere Germain at the end of the first half so Lille could play more freely. Jonathan David has an important role for Lille in this match. And as you said that Lille looks like they will have a very difficult game in their next schedule, because they will face Marseille who until now have not had a loss in Ligue 1. Moreover, this match will take place at the Velodrome later.

If this match does not end in a draw, this is a very good opportunity to choose bets for 1 and 2, 1 has Odds @2.0 and @3.75 for 2. (Source: Rollbit Sports)

If one was willing to bet on Lille in that match, then they seemed ready to accept defeat given that Marseille's performance so far had been impressive. Marseille collected 14 points from 6 matches, they won 5 and drew only once. That's an important factor why I didn't choose Lille to win, because all the matches will take place at home to Marseille.
Here are the provisional odds for that match, may change again later because this match is still quite long (at least 6 days from now).

It was a one-sided match between Lille and Montpellier. It is at least my opinion that this is the case. There was 76% possession of the ball by Lille during the game. I really don’t know how they even conceded. In the end, Lille won the match by a score of 3-1. It is also important to mention that the red card of Montpelier was also a big help to Lille in their dominance. This was a much easier match than the one Lille has coming up against Marseille and I believe it will be a much more difficult match than this one.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on September 05, 2022, 03:26:39 PM

Nice 0-1 Monaco

After losing points in the last 4 matches, Monaco managed to get full points against Nice today. Monaco players had a good enough performance today. Breel Embolo's goal in the 69th minute of the match gave Monaco a 1-0 lead. Although Nice's players had some good attacks, they were unable to break Monaco's strong defense in this match.

Monaco's coach Philippe Clement was more careful in this match after the big loss against Troyes, he probably did some tactical work on their defense because losing 4-2 in your home stadium against a team that is new to Ligue 1 can tell you that there is something wrong in your defense, it showed in this match against Nice that they weren't playing aggressively and it worked out great.

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Nice 0-1 Monaco

After losing points in the last 4 matches, Monaco managed to get full points against Nice today. Monaco players had a good enough performance today. Breel Embolo's goal in the 69th minute of the match gave Monaco a 1-0 lead. Although Nice's players had some good attacks, they were unable to break Monaco's strong defense in this match.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 05, 2022, 02:48:58 PM

Heard the news if PSG got a Fine from UEFA. They were fined for violating financial fair play. Even PSG got a fine with a considerable amount of 172 million Euros.
1. Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - 65 million Euros
2. AS Roma (ITA) - 35 million Euros
3. Inter Milan (ITA) - 26 million Euros
4. Juventus (ITA) - 23 million Euros
5. AC Milan (ITA) - 15 million Euros
6. Besiktas (TOUR) - 4 million Euros
7. Marseille (FRA) - 2 million Euros
8. AS Monaco (FRA) - 2 million Euros
I don't know how they work but it seems like their goal is good.

So the French and Italian teams dominate for that? It was really surprising. I'm not surprised by PSG, but somehow I'm surprised by some of the other teams in Ligue 1 who have had to pay fines for FFP. Regardless, I think the pandemic might be the reason why this happened to 8 teams. But I don't know exactly how these 8 teams have to pay for something that happened so unexpectedly.

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1. Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - 65 million Euros

It was the equivalent of getting Haaland from Dortmund last season. Lol

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Didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years Roll Eyes

Unfortunately, we will never see Messi in the Premier League, and now it would be very epic:

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As for Mbappe, he has every chance of finishing as Neymar, maybe even better due to his achievements with the national team, but he will never come close to the greatest players. Haaland is now on the right track, Mbappe is not.

I agree regarding Haaland being on the right track vs. Mbappe making questionable choices. Would be nice to see Haaland play some international tournaments with Norway as well.

You didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years? I am not sure we are talking about the same players, but his speed when it came to acceleration with the ball on his feet was one of a kind. Just watch his best goals. One of them being against Bilbao in Copa del rey, I think there is also a speed analysis somewhere on YouTube. Or the one against Real Madrid when he started at the midfield line. I am not talking about these goals when a player just kicks it forward 30 meters and then runs after it in Usain Bolt style. Speed with the ball on rather short distances. I'd say he was the fastest ever when you put together acceleration, ball control and stopping from full speed to zero, then accelerate again. Let me know if you know a player who has done that better and maybe even more often than Messi.

You are confusing dribbling and Barcelona's game model in general. Messi was part of it, and the part that was replaceable - the Spanish team without Messi won two European Championships and the World Cup in a row, and Villa perfectly replaced Messi (do you even remember who he is?). Outside of Barcelona's scheme of play, Messi has turned into an average player.
Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Mbappe etc. shone at PSG, but can you say the same about Messi? Roll Eyes

PSG dominate France and it's easier for any player to shine here than in Lyon or Monaco, but so far only the ones I've listed (and a few others) have really done it.

Messi's style of play this season reminds me a bit of his early career style. Messi was a playmaker rather than a striker in his first three seasons with the Barcelona ace team. He was constantly feeding Eto'o and Ronaldinho, even if he had a chance, he was scoring goals, but there was no such effort to score an extra goal. During the Guardialo era, the scorer feature was prominent, and this situation continued a little out of necessity, especially after MSN disbanded in the following periods. At psg he returned to that first playmaker Messi again. But I think he's more comfortable in this role as well. He always expressed that he liked the role of playmaker more than the striker.

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Heard the news if PSG got a Fine from UEFA. They were fined for violating financial fair play. Even PSG got a fine with a considerable amount of 172 million Euros.
1. Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - 65 million Euros
2. AS Roma (ITA) - 35 million Euros
3. Inter Milan (ITA) - 26 million Euros
4. Juventus (ITA) - 23 million Euros
5. AC Milan (ITA) - 15 million Euros
6. Besiktas (TOUR) - 4 million Euros
7. Marseille (FRA) - 2 million Euros
8. AS Monaco (FRA) - 2 million Euros
I don't know how they work but it seems like their goal is good.

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Quote from: MAAManda on September 05, 2022, 12:45:23 PM

They are in 5th place in the Ligue 1 standings after beating Montpelier with a score of 1-3 at the Mosson Stadium, the good result they got was the impact of the red card received by Valere Germain at the end of the first half so Lille could play more freely. Jonathan David has an important role for Lille in this match. And as you said that Lille looks like they will have a very difficult game in their next schedule, because they will face Marseille who until now have not had a loss in Ligue 1. Moreover, this match will take place at the Velodrome later.

If this match does not end in a draw, this is a very good opportunity to choose bets for 1 and 2, 1 has Odds @2.0 and @3.75 for 2. (Source: Rollbit Sports)

If one was willing to bet on Lille in that match, then they seemed ready to accept defeat given that Marseille's performance so far had been impressive. Marseille collected 14 points from 6 matches, they won 5 and drew only once. That's an important factor why I didn't choose Lille to win, because all the matches will take place at home to Marseille.

Here are the provisional odds for that match, may change again later because this match is still quite long (at least 6 days from now).

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Quote from: bering on September 05, 2022, 02:01:31 AM

Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

They are in 5th place in the Ligue 1 standings after beating Montpelier with a score of 1-3 at the Mosson Stadium, the good result they got was the impact of the red card received by Valere Germain at the end of the first half so Lille could play more freely. Jonathan David has an important role for Lille in this match. And as you said that Lille looks like they will have a very difficult game in their next schedule, because they will face Marseille who until now have not had a loss in Ligue 1. Moreover, this match will take place at the Velodrome later.

If this match does not end in a draw, this is a very good opportunity to choose bets for 1 and 2, 1 has Odds @2.0 and @3.75 for 2. (Source: Rollbit Sports)

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Messi - Mbappe duo did a great job today and helped the team have a comfortable win by 3-0. I didn't see Neymar in the starting eleven this time as Galtier put Sarabia instead. I wonder if there was a special reason for that. Maybe it might be related to the recent transfer rumours and the problems between him and Mbappe. He entered the game in the second half in the place of Mbappe. Maybe these problems don't affect their results in the league much but they should work this out before things get serious in the Champions League.

In addition, Lyon were amazing today. They defeated Angers 5-0 and increased their points to 13. After a very troubling season they have improved their effort very much now. It is still too difficult for them to bother PSG for the title but their main goal would be finishing the season at no less than the second position.

Well PSG needs to test several associations and strategies before CL to be ready for all scenarios since their main objective is to take that title after all money spent.
Lyon scoring 5 goals was impressive.
For now, OM is still annoying PSG with 16 points. Both Lens and Lyon have 13 points and still lack 1 game. It is quite good to see such competitiveness!

I don't know whether this can really be considered a test. It's a bit interesting that he lets Messi play the full distance while bringing Neymar from the bench and taking Mbappe off since Messi is the oldest. Despite that he seems to be fit and without any physical issues. The thing is that PSG has less wake up moments where the get under pressure and understand that they need to step up their game. That is different in most other important European leagues where clubs understand quickly that if they don't win, someone else will and win the title in the end. If you miss this feeling for half a year and then go against the most serious competitors in Europe, that might sometimes be the tiny bit that PSG is lacking. What I do like is that Messi doesn't look tired or anything. He is motivated for now and fun to watch.

But Nantes who only played with 10 player from the 24th minute was like a win that was too low for PSG, should be with PSG's great composition of players they can at least win more. Don't care about Neymar and Mbappe, because it looks like their case has been resolved and after all Mbappe must have awareness because after all the young must respect the older. It's different if Neymar's attitude is a mistake then Mbappe might be able to fight him, but their problem is only about a goal they fight over a penalty kick which shouldn't be a case that lasts forever.

That's a difficult rule when you say that after all the young must respect the older. In my opinion that also counts the other way around. The point is that the younger first have to do well in order to climb up the hierarchy, but making it a general rule that the younger have to respect the older isn even always the best way for the team. If there is a younger guy who is the best on the team then he is the best of the team no matter what when it comes to free kick or penalty shooting. Messi let's take Neymar the penalties and even very often the free kicks. Messi understood that he is not 25 anymore when he literally took responsibility for everything that happened on the pitch. It is good for the chemistry that Messi also doesn't claim to be at the top of the hierarchy anymore.

The game against Nantes was done as you said when the red card was shown, but even before that Nantes would have hardly had any chance. Now we finally get to see the games that tell more about the teams.

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Quote from: mv1986 on September 04, 2022, 11:18:12 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 04, 2022, 09:06:56 AM

Didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years Roll Eyes

Unfortunately, we will never see Messi in the Premier League, and now it would be very epic:

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Absolutely no one:

Casemiro when he sees Messi:

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https://twitter.com/trollfootball/status/1494009643236204544

As for Mbappe, he has every chance of finishing as Neymar, maybe even better due to his achievements with the national team, but he will never come close to the greatest players. Haaland is now on the right track, Mbappe is not.

I agree regarding Haaland being on the right track vs. Mbappe making questionable choices. Would be nice to see Haaland play some international tournaments with Norway as well.

You didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years? I am not sure we are talking about the same players, but his speed when it came to acceleration with the ball on his feet was one of a kind. Just watch his best goals. One of them being against Bilbao in Copa del rey, I think there is also a speed analysis somewhere on YouTube. Or the one against Real Madrid when he started at the midfield line. I am not talking about these goals when a player just kicks it forward 30 meters and then runs after it in Usain Bolt style. Speed with the ball on rather short distances. I'd say he was the fastest ever when you put together acceleration, ball control and stopping from full speed to zero, then accelerate again. Let me know if you know a player who has done that better and maybe even more often than Messi.

You are confusing dribbling and Barcelona's game model in general. Messi was part of it, and the part that was replaceable - the Spanish team without Messi won two European Championships and the World Cup in a row, and Villa perfectly replaced Messi (do you even remember who he is?). Outside of Barcelona's scheme of play, Messi has turned into an average player.
Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Mbappe etc. shone at PSG, but can you say the same about Messi? Roll Eyes

PSG dominate France and it's easier for any player to shine here than in Lyon or Monaco, but so far only the ones I've listed (and a few others) have really done it.

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PSG are stronger than other clubs in Ligue 1 but their defense is not good enough. Their strength is skewed into attacking and it gives opponents more chance to beat PSG from Ligue 1 to Champions League.

In Ligue 1, this weakness hardly to be exploited but in Champions League, PSG has to play against stronger clubs and in many important matches, we saw how their defense was collapsed within few minutes. Defense is like an Achilles of PSG. If they can not fix it, chance to win Champions League is still low.

This in my opinion is also a weakness that is difficult to fix in the PSG squad because the MNM trio are still lazy in helping their defense when needed

we all still remember last season when PSG lost to madrid (UCL) and it happened because their defense was overwhelmed while the MNM trio was in the spotlight for not helping PSG's defense to the maximum

In the UCL later Galtier will have to urge the MNM trio to help the defense when facing strong teams like Madrid or Bayern

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 05, 2022, 10:24:16 AM

For the PSG match against Nantes it was something that I thought would not happen, I thought that in Nantes I was going to do something better, for me this team was one of the ones with the best chance of beating PSG, I had it as one of the best candidates For this, however, I did not like the last games, I do not know, but now a team that seems good to PSG I see it difficult, at least for this time, I do not know which one can face it, otherwise PSG will win the French league very easy and the truth It won't be a lot of emotion, especially All for bettors, the fact that a team wins or draws PSG is synonymous that it is very good and that it can face it, but I have not seen any team with that guarantee.

Although there are some things to emphasize, I really like what the technical director said to his stars:

PSG's Messi, Neymar, Mbappe warned to accept bench role by coach Christophe Galtier

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"We play a lot, every three days, then every four days, then there is the World Cup. Everyone has to understand that they won't be able to play all the games."

Sergio Ramos was also given a relative rest against Nantes, only coming on in the 62nd minute.

"Everyone has to be ready to play. The most important thing is the team. We have quality in both the starters and the substitutes," Presnel Kimpembe said.

"We have a good group. Everyone knows that. We take advantage of each other to be as good as possible."

Source: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/paris-saint-germain--frapsg/story/4738775/psgs-messi-neymar-mbappe-warned-to-accept-bench-role-by-coach-galtier

I think that these things make me give a message to Mbappé saying that the coach is the boss here and not the stars, I think it's a good thing and apart from that he is taking care of them, this coach has all my respect.

Of course the coach have every right to keep the stars on the bench if they're not fit for games. He's the boss and he selects the kind of players he wants to start games for him. Christophe Glatier is in charge of the Parisians and controlled them all, despite the contract the club offered to Kylian Mbappe when he wanted to leave for Real Madrid when they came for him. Mbappe happens to be one of the big earners in the club, although he have his decisions and obligation in the club but not bigger than the coach. The trio always do better when they played together on the pitch.

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For the PSG match against Nantes it was something that I thought would not happen, I thought that in Nantes I was going to do something better, for me this team was one of the ones with the best chance of beating PSG, I had it as one of the best candidates For this, however, I did not like the last games, I do not know, but now a team that seems good to PSG I see it difficult, at least for this time, I do not know which one can face it, otherwise PSG will win the French league very easy and the truth It won't be a lot of emotion, especially All for bettors, the fact that a team wins or draws PSG is synonymous that it is very good and that it can face it, but I have not seen any team with that guarantee.

Although there are some things to emphasize, I really like what the technical director said to his stars:

PSG's Messi, Neymar, Mbappe warned to accept bench role by coach Christophe Galtier

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"We play a lot, every three days, then every four days, then there is the World Cup. Everyone has to understand that they won't be able to play all the games."

Sergio Ramos was also given a relative rest against Nantes, only coming on in the 62nd minute.

"Everyone has to be ready to play. The most important thing is the team. We have quality in both the starters and the substitutes," Presnel Kimpembe said.

"We have a good group. Everyone knows that. We take advantage of each other to be as good as possible."

Source: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/paris-saint-germain--frapsg/story/4738775/psgs-messi-neymar-mbappe-warned-to-accept-bench-role-by-coach-galtier

I think that these things make me give a message to Mbappé saying that the coach is the boss here and not the stars, I think it's a good thing and apart from that he is taking care of them, this coach has all my respect.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 05, 2022, 01:40:48 AM

Even though PSG's strength is far above other clubs, it is very difficult not to lose in a season and even if it is PSG, they will still feel defeat even if it can only count fingers.
But it's quite natural for something like this to happen because there is no opponent who is truly equal to them and defeat is one thing that can but is difficult to happen.

PSG are stronger than other clubs in Ligue 1 but their defense is not good enough. Their strength is skewed into attacking and it gives opponents more chance to beat PSG from Ligue 1 to Champions League.

In Ligue 1, this weakness hardly to be exploited but in Champions League, PSG has to play against stronger clubs and in many important matches, we saw how their defense was collapsed within few minutes. Defense is like an Achilles of PSG. If they can not fix it, chance to win Champions League is still low.

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There was a Côte d'Azur derby game last night.

This was a really important game for both sides honestly. Because both of them were in a desperate need of a win as they got only one win in five weeks. In fact, I didn't like Monaco's effort much in this game even though they won by 1-0. Because they were so clumsy when it comes to finding the target. There was even no shot on target in the first half. They must be thankful for their goalkeeper Nubel also as his important saves didn't let the team go into a disadvantageous condition. Embolo's goal was due to a bad defending by Mattia Viti and it cost Nice three points here.

After a four-week break Monaco really needed this win. They are too far from their performance in the second half of last season. But it is very similar to their start to that season at the same time. Maybe Monaco can have a better form in time again and start recovering. They have made nice transfers but it looks like the main problem is different.

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Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

Lille's game improved greatly in the second half and it was inseparable from the red card that Velere Germain got at the end of the first half. and Lille was able to use it well to finally win the game.

in the next match of course will be a very difficult match for Lille because they have to travel to Marseille headquarters.
Marseille who performed very well at the start of this season will certainly be seeded but Lille's quality can also balance it and the possibility of this match will be very fierce.

Lille not playing the European tournament could be a good chance to get a good final result, at least even if it's just one point it won't be a problem for Lille. Considering that Lille have had a better rest than Marseille who will play in the Champions League against Tottenham, what will certainly drain the Marseille players' stamina is that they will play away and of course it will be a very tiring day. With these factors, Lille will still have a chance to get points, if Lille can maximize this opportunity then of course Lille will be able to get 3 points.

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Quote from: FanEagle on September 04, 2022, 05:41:38 AM

Honestly I have seen Messi passing to Mbappe for a score a few times this year already and it looks like it is getting more common. I am not sure how many assists Messi has to Mbappe, but if someone calculated I am sure it is over 5 already, and that is a huge deal because you do not see that kind of numbers that easily. Which if you ask me is a proof that they are getting along very well.

We also know that Neymar and Messi go along very well too, one question remaining seems to be Neymar vs Mbappe, but if Messi could bring that together or at least they could be professional about it, then this team seems to be quite impossible to stop by any team in the world, they are that good when they play 100%.

almost all the goals scored by Mbappe are assists from messi, at least in 6 PSG matches Messi has contributed to providing 6 assists. messi is a very clever player in seeing gaps and providing feedback to his teammates. Thus, I think it's very clear that Galtier has put Mbappe as a Target Man.
In six matches, Messi's performance is the most stable when compared to Neymar, let alone Mbappe. this season, messi is playing so well, he has no serious problems with almost all his team-mates.
The problem that always raises issues around the PSG squad is none other than Neymar and Mbappe. these two stars always have disputes and feuds that are always raised by the sports media as a hot issue.

Well, again about the privileges that Mbappe has, is the trigger for all the existing disputes.
as you said, if Neymar and Mbappe can lower their egos and prioritize the interests of the club, it is not impossible that they can win the champions league trophy for the first time.

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Quote from: bering on September 05, 2022, 02:01:31 AM

Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

Lille's game improved greatly in the second half and it was inseparable from the red card that Velere Germain got at the end of the first half. and Lille was able to use it well to finally win the game.

in the next match of course will be a very difficult match for Lille because they have to travel to Marseille headquarters.
Marseille who performed very well at the start of this season will certainly be seeded but Lille's quality can also balance it and the possibility of this match will be very fierce.

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So far or especially this season PSG have never lost a match except for only playing one draw. But defeat is not impossible for PSG if the star players continue to put their egos forward without cooperating with every player in the team. Because in a team it's not about how many stars to see, but about how valid the cooperation of the players in carrying out the strategy or direction from their coach even though with the presence of star players the strength of the team can also increase.

Even though PSG's strength is far above other clubs, it is very difficult not to lose in a season and even if it is PSG, they will still feel defeat even if it can only count fingers.
But it's quite natural for something like this to happen because there is no opponent who is truly equal to them and defeat is one thing that can but is difficult to happen.

Last season they also felt 4 defeats. Even with the available strength, it is true that defeat is not impossible for Paris Saint Germain to accept.
Last season they recorded 26 wins, 8 draws and 4 defeats with a collection of 86 points, 15 points adrift of Marseille in second place in the standings.
But in terms of scoring goals they will not be unstoppable in my opinion.

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Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

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