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The PSG versus Lille Match is over and as expected PSG won the match very easily. The score was 7-1 at the end of the match. Kylian Mbappé scored a Hattrick, Neymar scored a brace and Messi scored one goal. The defender Achraf Hakimi also scored one goal. This was a really good performance from PSG. But if I have to nitpick I am going to say they could have done better on the defensive side. But on the attacking side, there is no problem right now. I am glad to see Kylian Mbappé understand that he is a player and not above the team. That is why I think the team is starting to work well. And obviously, the arrival of a new coach for PSG also did well for their performance. Just look at how they started the last season and how they have started the season.
I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.
Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.

The situation of PSG is absolutely the same as Bayern Munich. Both of them don’t have any good competition in their own respective league and that is a big reason why they don’t prepare well for the Champions League. If you don’t prepare well by playing against a better opponent, you will not be able to perform well when those better opponents will be put in front of you. The whole season these two teams play against childish teams compared to them and then people expect them to do well in the Champions League. That is really funny to me Cheesy.
I mean there is a reason why most of the successful teams in the Champions League last time were teams from the English Premier League and La Liga.
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Money does not guarantee success, but success is possible because of money if the team and the players alike strive to put the team mission above the individual mission.

Remember how Porto won the Champions League in the 2003-2004 season? Who says they are star-studded team with good financial conditions. But teamwork has made them win the title back then.



So apart from strategy, squad depth and collaboration between players are the reasons why these teams won the Champions League title. Solid cooperation, having good players are things that will support this team to achieve success in a competition. So if PSG want to win titles, then they have to have some of those things in my opinion.
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Big investors for other teams are about the Premier League, but here in Ligue 1, no one will dare to do this, because what's the point? They will have to invest a lot of money, even a very lot of money just to win Ligue 1? It's not prestigious, no one will do it, big investors will go to strong leagues to feel the full taste of victory. And PSG can beat teams in Ligue 1 by scoring 5 or even 10 goals in each game, the championship will not become more interesting from this.
Still not have big investor want to buy or invest with Ligue 1 team except PSG only because less values and not really popular with Ligue 1 compare other competition like Primer League or La Liga and Serie A. After several years acquisition with PSG until right now still not have new bigger investor want to make Ligue 1 become competitive league. I think without popular exactly there are not have much money and make several investor not really excited with Ligue 1 competition. Keep label as farmer league with Ligue because until several years later PSG as the king of Ligue 1, have healthy financial and always dominance with several star player on their team squad, different with other Ligue 1 participants.
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From the results of this match, it shows that from season to season the team's strength can change and all of them have a training process to create good strength, so PSG have shown that their teamwork is still the best in Liga 1. From 2019 until now "PSG" no team has ever been able to beat.
Teamwork deserves to be appreciated but is that the real reason PSG won big?
I don't think so, because actually there are many teams that have even better cooperation than PSG in Ligue1, but in fact PSG seems to be more dominant than other teams, you know why?
Because actually the quality of the squad owned by PSG does not have commensurate opponents in ligue 1, other teams have good cooperation but indeed their finances do not support them at all to buy players and build them like PSG did, with the existing player materials such as right now, no matter how good the cooperation of the opposing team, it certainly can't do anything if agains PSG in my opinion.
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So, then what is the difference with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, with reference to SPG which always fails in the Champions League, then that's why the club management and Galtier are trying to upgrade their players, by bringing in some new players, especially in defense and midfield positions, because in the attacking position, they already have a trio of MNM who have proven their prowess.
I believe, IF, spg don't have drama problems like what happened in the locker room, they can and it's not impossible to beat other big european clubs competing in the champions league.
let's just wait for them to appear in the champions league against other big clubs.
At least Bayern Munich has proven its toughness on the European stage, Munich has something that PSG does not have, namely a winning mentality on the European stage.
PSG failure in the Champions League always raises a big question mark, what's wrong with PSG. They already have a very good squad when compared to other teams, players who defend PSG have also lifted the Champions League trophy several times.
This season PSG again dominates Ligue 1, we'll see how far PSG can go in the Champions League.

PSG's squad now has several players who are too experienced for a platform like the Champions League. But PSG coach Galtier has no Champions League experience. But Messi and Ramos are too experienced for the Champions League. I think we will see a more organized PSG team next season.

Bayern Munich is a very renowned team. They form strong squads every season. The performance of their players is quite stable as their match strategy does not change much. So they can continue to perform consistently well in Bundesliga and Champions League.
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So, then what is the difference with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, with reference to SPG which always fails in the Champions League, then that's why the club management and Galtier are trying to upgrade their players, by bringing in some new players, especially in defense and midfield positions, because in the attacking position, they already have a trio of MNM who have proven their prowess.

I believe, IF, spg don't have drama problems like what happened in the locker room, they can and it's not impossible to beat other big european clubs competing in the champions league.
let's just wait for them to appear in the champions league against other big clubs.
At least Bayern Munich has proven its toughness on the European stage, Munich has something that PSG does not have, namely a winning mentality on the European stage.
PSG failure in the Champions League always raises a big question mark, what's wrong with PSG. They already have a very good squad when compared to other teams, players who defend PSG have also lifted the Champions League trophy several times.
This season PSG again dominates Ligue 1, we'll see how far PSG can go in the Champions League.
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The Ligue 1 isn't at the same level as the biggest leagues like the EPL, La Liga etc.. It has still a long way to go to reach there. The reason is of course that the Ligue 1 can't attract sponsorships as much as those leagues. As a result, it doesn't have a total revenue as much as them also.

The graph below shows the revenues of European leagues from the 1996/97 season to the 2021/22 season. We can clearly see that the Ligue 1 has always been behind the other top four leagues. PSG's domination in the recent years has made the league even more boring. We should be seeing more strong teams in this league to increase the attention of people to this league. People like to watch the Premier League for example because there are many solid teams and there are quite a lot of skilled players at the same time. The competition level is very high as a result.



The source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/261218/big-five-european-soccer-leagues-revenue/
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Exactly, they have to prove themselves first by facing a club that has the same level as them. That way we can conclude whether their game can compete if they are in a more difficult competition or not. Because if you look at the match here (Ligue 1) it is clear they are able to do well, although their internal problems still cannot be resolved. And I think, even if one of their star players is absent they will still perform like that.
Just wait for them to appear in the Champions League against other big clubs, although the atmosphere is different it can at least prove the depth of the squad that PSG has. If you look at PSG who always fail in the Champions League, Ligue 1 can be said to be a livestock league because there is no team that can provide competition to PSG. Maybe for that reason players who join Ligue 1 clubs are less popular than players who compete in the Premier League or La Liga.

So, then what is the difference with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, with reference to SPG which always fails in the Champions League, then that's why the club management and Galtier are trying to upgrade their players, by bringing in some new players, especially in defense and midfield positions, because in the attacking position, they already have a trio of MNM who have proven their prowess.

I believe, IF, spg don't have drama problems like what happened in the locker room, they can and it's not impossible to beat other big european clubs competing in the champions league.
let's just wait for them to appear in the champions league against other big clubs.
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I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.

Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.

Big investors for other teams are about the Premier League, but here in Ligue 1, no one will dare to do this, because what's the point? They will have to invest a lot of money, even a very lot of money just to win Ligue 1? It's not prestigious, no one will do it, big investors will go to strong leagues to feel the full taste of victory. And PSG can beat teams in Ligue 1 by scoring 5 or even 10 goals in each game, the championship will not become more interesting from this.
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The 1-7 PSG victory is ordinary because they have a team that has world class players. If PSG cannot score 7 goals when Lille has lost enthusiasm in the match, then it is in vain to have a MMN trio. I do not intend to underestimate PSG and Ligue 1, but in Spain (La Liga) and in England (Premier League) the big score is rare, because all teams can provide resistance, even the team at the bottom of the standings can beat the ranking team at the standings.
Ligue 1 teams are relatively less powerful than La Liga and Premier League. However, Lille is not a weak team. Lille was the Ligue 1 champion in the 2020-21 season. Scoring 7 goals against such a renowned team were not easy. PSG played very well. They scored in the first minute of the match. Maybe PSG won't be able to score 7 goals against any Premier League or La Liga team. But if PSG are able to maintain such consistent performance, they are capable of defeating any strong team.
If so, we can also equate great teams outside Europe. They can also beat Europe's great teams if they are able to maintain a consistent performance.
I know that Lille is not a weak team, but the players in the PSG squad are not comparable to the average players in the Ligue 1 squad. Logically, PSG are able to score more than 4 goals when they face other teams in Ligue 1 although on the field luck factor also affects the results.

The PSG versus Lille Match is over and as expected PSG won the match very easily. The score was 7-1 at the end of the match. Kylian Mbappé scored a Hattrick, Neymar scored a brace and Messi scored one goal. The defender Achraf Hakimi also scored one goal. This was a really good performance from PSG. But if I have to nitpick I am going to say they could have done better on the defensive side. But on the attacking side, there is no problem right now. I am glad to see Kylian Mbappé understand that he is a player and not above the team. That is why I think the team is starting to work well. And obviously, the arrival of a new coach for PSG also did well for their performance. Just look at how they started the last season and how they have started the season.

I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.

Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.
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I see some people saying that Lille are one of the main opponents of PSG in the Ligue 1. However I don't believe this is true anymore. Their last head-to-heads can be shown as a proof for that also. I have added it below:



I respect Lille's success like being the champions of the league two seasons ago. But this was only related to their having a special season, that's all. There has been a huge power difference between these teams for years. PSG showed this once again by that 7-1 win.

In short, there is actually no team in the Ligue 1 that can keep up with PSG every season. As long as we don't see any other team building a very qualified squad like PSG, this will never change. PSG have real opponents in only the Champions league now.

Since winning the Ligue 1 trophy in the 2020/2021 season, Lille's performance has decreased, even the previous season Lille had performed
poorly by being in 10th position. That's why when the start of this season started I didn't think of Lille as a strong team anymore in Ligue 1.
So it's only natural that PSG can win big against Lille this season, because based on the previous head to head it was very clear Lille was not
a strong competitor for PSG anymore. Even looking at Lille's performance in 3 games this season, I'm not sure Lille this season is in the top 5.

So for me it would be much more interesting to see PSG face Marseille or Lyon, especially Marseille which has proven in the last few seasons
to play quite consistently by always being in the top 5. So this season in Ligue 1 it is Marseille who deserves to be PSG's main opponent,
although if Marseille face PSG it is likely to lose, at least Marseille can provide resistance and will not be easily defeated by PSG. Even though
the truth is true, it's more interesting to watch PSG play in the Champions League, which in the Champions League PSG can face opponents
who have almost the same strength. Because other Ligue 1 teams struggle to build quality teams, and so far no other team in Ligue 1 has
the same financial strength as PSG.

After Lille won the league back in 2020/2021 they played next year the champions league and in that time they sold most of their best players. Yilmaz carried Lille and got sold and some other players aswell. Now i dont think they got even the material to be in top 7 of the league. Other teams this year have really signed some good players,while PSG will win the title again easily.
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The 1-7 PSG victory is ordinary because they have a team that has world class players. If PSG cannot score 7 goals when Lille has lost enthusiasm in the match, then it is in vain to have a MMN trio. I do not intend to underestimate PSG and Ligue 1, but in Spain (La Liga) and in England (Premier League) the big score is rare, because all teams can provide resistance, even the team at the bottom of the standings can beat the ranking team at the standings.
Ligue 1 teams are relatively less powerful than La Liga and Premier League. However, Lille is not a weak team. Lille was the Ligue 1 champion in the 2020-21 season. Scoring 7 goals against such a renowned team were not easy. PSG played very well. They scored in the first minute of the match. Maybe PSG won't be able to score 7 goals against any Premier League or La Liga team. But if PSG are able to maintain such consistent performance, they are capable of defeating any strong team.
If so, we can also equate great teams outside Europe. They can also beat Europe's great teams if they are able to maintain a consistent performance.
I know that Lille is not a weak team, but the players in the PSG squad are not comparable to the average players in the Ligue 1 squad. Logically, PSG are able to score more than 4 goals when they face other teams in Ligue 1 although on the field luck factor also affects the results.

The PSG versus Lille Match is over and as expected PSG won the match very easily. The score was 7-1 at the end of the match. Kylian Mbappé scored a Hattrick, Neymar scored a brace and Messi scored one goal. The defender Achraf Hakimi also scored one goal. This was a really good performance from PSG. But if I have to nitpick I am going to say they could have done better on the defensive side. But on the attacking side, there is no problem right now. I am glad to see Kylian Mbappé understand that he is a player and not above the team. That is why I think the team is starting to work well. And obviously, the arrival of a new coach for PSG also did well for their performance. Just look at how they started the last season and how they have started the season.
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I started to think whether it is worth it when one of the top leagues is dominated by only one team, where the dominance of that team is very difficult to stop. I prefer to say their real competition is the Champions League. We see how they are there, even I see them only as a small team that does not have a winning mentality. Not condescending, but that's a fact I see.
Regardless of what you see and you value for this French League. I don't think there's anything to blame here when a league is only dominated by one team. Because each team must struggle to develop in order to dominate the League in their own country and also in the Champions League if the team gets a ticket to the Champions League. But if the team doesn't care about the development or progress of their team, then the potential to dominate the League will definitely not exist.
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Too early conclusions on the results of games in the farm league  Roll Eyes PSG is now the only top club in France, so we see such results. But who knows what will happen if they come across some strong team like Atlético (I'm not even talking about other top teams) - when in the center of the field it will be necessary to really fight and not play on clean balls. It is quite possible that this trio will fade again.
Exactly, they have to prove themselves first by facing a club that has the same level as them. That way we can conclude whether their game can compete if they are in a more difficult competition or not. Because if you look at the match here (Ligue 1) it is clear they are able to do well, although their internal problems still cannot be resolved. And I think, even if one of their star players is absent they will still perform like that.

It is a fact. No one noticed Mbappe's absence in the first game and PSG scored 5 goals - supposedly a great win, but based on that we can't say anything about PSG's chances in the Champions League. I wouldn't be surprised if PSG get knocked out by the first serious opponent and then the fans will talk about bad luck and that PSG is supposedly strong. But in order to see real strength, you need normal opponents, not clubs from Ligue 1.
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Exactly, they have to prove themselves first by facing a club that has the same level as them. That way we can conclude whether their game can compete if they are in a more difficult competition or not. Because if you look at the match here (Ligue 1) it is clear they are able to do well, although their internal problems still cannot be resolved. And I think, even if one of their star players is absent they will still perform like that.
Just wait for them to appear in the Champions League against other big clubs, although the atmosphere is different it can at least prove the depth of the squad that PSG has. If you look at PSG who always fail in the Champions League, Ligue 1 can be said to be a livestock league because there is no team that can provide competition to PSG. Maybe for that reason players who join Ligue 1 clubs are less popular than players who compete in the Premier League or La Liga.
It is difficult to remove Ligue 1 from the word farmers' league because indeed there is no one here that can be used as a target to be called a rival at this time and indeed there is no single club that can match PSG so it is quite reasonable to call it that because they are alone there in terms of league especially.
Stigma like this will always exist until whenever there is no team that can become an obstacle or make the competition exciting in the fight for the championship.
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I see some people saying that Lille are one of the main opponents of PSG in the Ligue 1. However I don't believe this is true anymore. Their last head-to-heads can be shown as a proof for that also. I have added it below:

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I respect Lille's success like being the champions of the league two seasons ago. But this was only related to their having a special season, that's all. There has been a huge power difference between these teams for years. PSG showed this once again by that 7-1 win.

In short, there is actually no team in the Ligue 1 that can keep up with PSG every season. As long as we don't see any other team building a very qualified squad like PSG, this will never change. PSG have real opponents in only the Champions league now.
From the results of this match, it shows that from season to season the team's strength can change and all of them have a training process to create good strength, so PSG have shown that their teamwork is still the best in Liga 1. From 2019 until now "PSG" no team has ever been able to beat.
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Not many big clubs can play like PSG who can get a lot of goals in a very short time because most of them only get less than 10 goals, if PSG can get more goals then it will give a high number of points and will It is very difficult to beat PSG when it is already at the top of the French league rankings.
The 1-7 PSG victory is ordinary because they have a team that has world class players. If PSG cannot score 7 goals when Lille has lost enthusiasm in the match, then it is in vain to have a MMN trio. I do not intend to underestimate PSG and Ligue 1, but in Spain (La Liga) and in England (Premier League) the big score is rare, because all teams can provide resistance, even the team at the bottom of the standings can beat the ranking team at the standings.

Ligue 1 teams are relatively less powerful than La Liga and Premier League. However, Lille is not a weak team. Lille was the Ligue 1 champion in the 2020-21 season. Scoring 7 goals against such a renowned team were not easy. PSG played very well. They scored in the first minute of the match. Maybe PSG won't be able to score 7 goals against any Premier League or La Liga team. But if PSG are able to maintain such consistent performance, they are capable of defeating any strong team.
If so, we can also equate great teams outside Europe. They can also beat Europe's great teams if they are able to maintain a consistent performance.
I know that Lille is not a weak team, but the players in the PSG squad are not comparable to the average players in the Ligue 1 squad. Logically, PSG are able to score more than 4 goals when they face other teams in Ligue 1 although on the field luck factor also affects the results.
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I get that PSG is a great team and they are doing as well as hoped for. But when they score in 7th second then it becomes a bit of a problem. I mean it is not going to be something that we can't really see again, they are so good that I think it could even happen again, maybe not 7th second but like 20th second next time who knows?

What I really want to believe is that we are talking about something that is quite uncommon with how powerful they are compared to rest of the league, them and Bayern, that's it. These teams are not doing it on some low level out of top 50 league, they are doing it on one of the best leagues in the world and they are unfairly good against everyone else without any shred of doubt.
I started to think whether it is worth it when one of the top leagues is dominated by only one team, where the dominance of that team is very difficult to stop. I prefer to say their real competition is the Champions League. We see how they are there, even I see them only as a small team that does not have a winning mentality. Not condescending, but that's a fact I see.
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I see some people saying that Lille are one of the main opponents of PSG in the Ligue 1. However I don't believe this is true anymore. Their last head-to-heads can be shown as a proof for that also. I have added it below:



I respect Lille's success like being the champions of the league two seasons ago. But this was only related to their having a special season, that's all. There has been a huge power difference between these teams for years. PSG showed this once again by that 7-1 win.

In short, there is actually no team in the Ligue 1 that can keep up with PSG every season. As long as we don't see any other team building a very qualified squad like PSG, this will never change. PSG have real opponents in only the Champions league now.

Since winning the Ligue 1 trophy in the 2020/2021 season, Lille's performance has decreased, even the previous season Lille had performed
poorly by being in 10th position. That's why when the start of this season started I didn't think of Lille as a strong team anymore in Ligue 1.
So it's only natural that PSG can win big against Lille this season, because based on the previous head to head it was very clear Lille was not
a strong competitor for PSG anymore. Even looking at Lille's performance in 3 games this season, I'm not sure Lille this season is in the top 5.

So for me it would be much more interesting to see PSG face Marseille or Lyon, especially Marseille which has proven in the last few seasons
to play quite consistently by always being in the top 5. So this season in Ligue 1 it is Marseille who deserves to be PSG's main opponent,
although if Marseille face PSG it is likely to lose, at least Marseille can provide resistance and will not be easily defeated by PSG. Even though
the truth is true, it's more interesting to watch PSG play in the Champions League, which in the Champions League PSG can face opponents
who have almost the same strength. Because other Ligue 1 teams struggle to build quality teams, and so far no other team in Ligue 1 has
the same financial strength as PSG.
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I get that PSG is a great team and they are doing as well as hoped for. But when they score in 7th second then it becomes a bit of a problem. I mean it is not going to be something that we can't really see again, they are so good that I think it could even happen again, maybe not 7th second but like 20th second next time who knows?

What I really want to believe is that we are talking about something that is quite uncommon with how powerful they are compared to rest of the league, them and Bayern, that's it. These teams are not doing it on some low level out of top 50 league, they are doing it on one of the best leagues in the world and they are unfairly good against everyone else without any shred of doubt.
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