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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 29, 2022, 09:35:15 AM

I was really scandalized to see that management of PSG wants to kick out Neymar at every cost. In some part I've read that they will spend something like 200 m € to kick him out, and I would like to understand why
because neymar is absolutely a good player, and with Mbappe could do great things for the next years. I've already heard something about his discpline but I don't think that it will be decisive for letting him stay or not.

Has PSG benefited by keeping Neymar in the team? PSG pays a lot of wages to Neymar every year. But they are not getting the expected performance from Neymar. In the last 5 seasons, Neymar has played only 82 matches in Ligue 1. Mbappe has played 66 matches in the last 2 seasons. And so PSG management is now considering it a waste of money to pay Neymar high wages. So I think it is the right decision to remove Neymar from the team.

Neymar is such a high quality player that selling him or "getting rid of him" is not really an ideal situation for any player. Yes, he hasn't been around and yes he missed plenty of games so far, both of those are correct statements.

But you need just one season, one season of him playing at his absolute best and along with Mbappe, that would be crucial beast playing that will get them the UCL cup. They do not even need him to play during the regular season domestic league, they just need him for the last 10 games of the champions league, if they win those, they would be fine with him playing zero games in ligue1, would be weird but still happy situation.

Perhaps Nasser Al-Khelaifi will keep Neymar at PSG for one more season and give him a chance. If Neymar fails to play well next season, then PSG boss Nasser Al-Khelaifi is no longer interested in Neymar. We heard some rumors that Chelsea is looking to sign Neymar this season. But today Jason Cundy(former Chelsea defender) has made some derogatory remarks regarding taking. He says Neymar is an overrated player. And he doesn't want to see Neymar in the Chelsea squad. Even Chelsea management may not be interested in signing Neymar now.

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Quote from: hashrateproducts on June 30, 2022, 12:14:07 PM

Olympique Lyon have signed Corentin Tolisso on a free transfer as the Frenchman failed to extend his contract with the Bundesliga giant. The 27years old midfielder will be offer a new opportunity in his former team which he left for Bayern few years ago. Corentin Tolisso will impressed the team and fans with his incredible key passes and finally balance the midfield actions of OL. Tolisso will sign a long term contract with Olympique Lyon which will be valid till June 2027.

So Olympique Lyon will sign a failed player? LOL, I think this will be a bad decision for Olympique Lyon, especially after seeing the term of his contract which is until 2027. Bayern never fail to see the potential of a player, let alone a player who is still relatively young like Tolisso, when they don't want to extend his contract, it means he is not a potential player and will only waste the club's money.

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Quote from: ShowOff on June 30, 2022, 12:00:21 PM

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It shouldn't be for me because actually PSG have spent too much money on some of their star players without a single European achievement like the Champions League. I think that would be the most plausible reason why PSG would try to sell Neymar to another interested team.
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not just that, he is not that popular anymore, and that means less jerseys and t-shirts sold, which accounts for team profit

they are losing all CL kick-out matches, and that will probably not change with Neymar leaving, they need years to get to the point were you are winning European matches, even you are not playing great
it is a question do the owners have patience to wait those years to pass, for them to become big club, not just in France

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Olympique Lyon have signed Corentin Tolisso on a free transfer as the Frenchman failed to extend his contract with the Bundesliga giant. The 27years old midfielder will be offer a new opportunity in his former team which he left for Bayern few years ago. Corentin Tolisso will impressed the team and fans with his incredible key passes and finally balance the midfield actions of OL. Tolisso will sign a long term contract with Olympique Lyon which will be valid till June 2027.

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Quote from: mia_houston on June 30, 2022, 11:53:10 AM

Whatever the reason PSG threw away Neymar, of course, raises a lot of question marks for all of us, because so far Neymar has never been rumored to be leaving nor having problems with PSG's management,

It shouldn't be for me because actually PSG have spent too much money on some of their star players without a single European achievement like the Champions League. I think that would be the most plausible reason why PSG would try to sell Neymar to another interested team.

Quote from: mia_houston on June 30, 2022, 11:53:10 AM

now it seems like it will be difficult for other teams to sign Neymar because maybe the price set by PSG will later be very high, besides that Neymar also has a fairly high salary so far at PSG and other teams will rethink to sign him considering his age now.

Salaries and high selling points will definitely be a consideration for other teams. Another thing is age, but I think there are still capable teams if Neymar is the type of player that is desperately needed.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 30, 2022, 05:34:32 AM

The reason why PSG are willing to sell Neymar now must be his performance related. He is getting injured very often also but I don't think that it's the only reason. I think that it would still be good for the team that sign Neymar now. Teams like Chelsea and Juventus are also after him as it seems. I would like to see him in Chelsea's squad actually as I believe he would be nice for the Premier League. Chelsea are a good team for him too as he can show his skills well. But he would cost quite much for them so we will see if they will still be willing about this.

Whatever the reason PSG threw away Neymar, of course, raises a lot of question marks for all of us, because so far Neymar has never been rumored to be leaving nor having problems with PSG's management, but after mbappe has great authority at PSG now it seems PSG are starting to look for ways to get rid of Neymar from the squad, now it seems like it will be difficult for other teams to sign Neymar because maybe the price set by PSG will later be very high, besides that Neymar also has a fairly high salary so far at PSG and other teams will rethink to sign him considering his age now.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 29, 2022, 09:35:15 AM

I was really scandalized to see that management of PSG wants to kick out Neymar at every cost. In some part I've read that they will spend something like 200 m € to kick him out, and I would like to understand why
because neymar is absolutely a good player, and with Mbappe could do great things for the next years. I've already heard something about his discpline but I don't think that it will be decisive for letting him stay or not.

In the photo collection for a new season, Neymar is still in and it is a signal that PSG will not sell Neymar, at least in a new season. Maybe they want to try another season with the trio attackers, Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. If they fail to win Champions League again, Neymar will be replaced soon. Messi might not sign a new contracf with PSG and Barcelona will still be one of best destinations for Messi if he leaves Paris.

Since PSG's contract with Messi until 2023. And so I think PSG management wants to rely on the Messi-Neymar-Mbappe trio for another season. Because we have seen the performances of Messi and Neymar Duo. They performed exceptionally well together. Neymar missed many important matches due to his injury in the previous season. If Neymar does not suffer a major injury next season, we will see better gameplay from the Messi-Neymar and Mbappe trio.

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Quote from: cygan on June 30, 2022, 07:18:47 AM

according to information from "l'equipe", the french europa league participant stade rennes is interested in signing central defender Samuel Umtiti, who is under contract with fc barcelona. rennes is currently looking for a replacement for Nayef Aguerd, who moved to english premier league club west ham united

I still feel that Umtiti is not the right player to replace Nayef Aguerd. Even though Umtiti is a pretty good player but the problem he has until now is his legs are fragile and prone to injury which makes me not too sure about this player.
in terms of skill, indeed he is above average but it is seen from Barcelona now that he is even more often in the treatment room than on the banch or on the field.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 29, 2022, 04:56:23 PM

It is surprising to hear rumors that PSG will sell Neymar, even though Neymar's contract expires in 2025. Then after I researched from various sources,
it turned out that the main reason Neymar was sold was disciplinary problems and also Neymar is prone to injury. Because we know that several
times Neymar was undisciplined during training sessions with PSG, then Neymar, who has a high salary, also often gets injured.

Any player that has disciplinary issued always face serious challenges. A player must be able to show good character off and on the pitch. Many potential great players have lost their place in history due to unruly behavior. If he doesn't respect Mauricio Pochettino, then he would never be loyal to Christophe Galtier. For me Paris Saint-Germain made the right decision because having three great players in the same team would always lead to personality class and power tussle. I have stated it time without number that Messi,Neymar and Mbappe cannot be productive together. Everyone of these want all the attention and respect, hence at least one must leave. Neymar is a good player and would do well in other club where he would get his attention and adoration.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 30, 2022, 09:15:32 AM

I think the main reason is that he did not give the result that was expected from him. Any other club would keep Neymar as he is still good and doesn't fall below a certain level, but PSG will go over different players until they hit the target and the money is not important to PSG. The only thing that surprises me is that they are trying to get rid of Neymar before Messi. Neymar is much more useful than Messi and he is much younger than him.

Neymar is not a bad player but he does not reach to his best. Even his stats in PSG last few seasons is very good, he still does not meet demand from PSG boss and even does not reach what he wanted when he decided to leave Barcelona.

He left Barcelona in order to get out of Messi domination but in PSG, now he is no longer a biggest star there. It belongs to Mbappe. It is a failure for Neymar from personal to club level.

Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 29, 2022, 09:35:15 AM

I was really scandalized to see that management of PSG wants to kick out Neymar at every cost. In some part I've read that they will spend something like 200 m € to kick him out, and I would like to understand why

because neymar is absolutely a good player, and with Mbappe could do great things for the next years. I've already heard something about his discpline but I don't think that it will be decisive for letting him stay or not.

In the photo collection for a new season, Neymar is still in and it is a signal that PSG will not sell Neymar, at least in a new season. Maybe they want to try another season with the trio attackers, Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. If they fail to win Champions League again, Neymar will be replaced soon. Messi might not sign a new contracf with PSG and Barcelona will still be one of best destinations for Messi if he leaves Paris.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 29, 2022, 09:35:15 AM

I was really scandalized to see that management of PSG wants to kick out Neymar at every cost. In some part I've read that they will spend something like 200 m € to kick him out, and I would like to understand why

because neymar is absolutely a good player, and with Mbappe could do great things for the next years. I've already heard something about his discpline but I don't think that it will be decisive for letting him stay or not.

I think the main reason is that he did not give the result that was expected from him. Any other club would keep Neymar as he is still good and doesn't fall below a certain level, but PSG will go over different players until they hit the target and the money is not important to PSG. The only thing that surprises me is that they are trying to get rid of Neymar before Messi. Neymar is much more useful than Messi and he is much younger than him.

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according to information from "l'equipe", the french europa league participant stade rennes is interested in signing central defender Samuel Umtiti, who is under contract with fc barcelona. rennes is currently looking for a replacement for Nayef Aguerd, who moved to english premier league club west ham united

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The reason why PSG are willing to sell Neymar now must be his performance related. He is getting injured very often also but I don't think that it's the only reason. I think that it would still be good for the team that sign Neymar now. Teams like Chelsea and Juventus are also after him as it seems. I would like to see him in Chelsea's squad actually as I believe he would be nice for the Premier League. Chelsea are a good team for him too as he can show his skills well. But he would cost quite much for them so we will see if they will still be willing about this.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 29, 2022, 04:30:03 PM

The rumours about Neymar have made me really surprised. I don't understand the reason why they are so eager to sell him this summer. Is it related to his being very injury prone for some time or is there something else? Chelsea and Juventus have been recorded as the teams interested in him highly these days. If he really leaves then it would be interesting to watch these two teams fight for him. I think they have similar level of chances to sign him but it is hard to know what country Neymar is keen on going to now.

Besides injured issue one of the biggest problem why PSG decide to sell Neymar because he cannot play good such as in Barcelona and as the most expensive player in the world who transfered from Barcelona to PSG he seems became overpriced and moreover in PSG they already have Messi and Mbappe so losing him aren't big problem for PSG and i heard too PSG actually has hugh of debt because of their habit always be spend a lot of money to buy players or for salary players so with selling Neymar will slightly reduce expenses money from PSG

Basically it's not about being prone to injury and not playing well, there are internal problems going on and it's not even Chelsea and Juventus that are interested, but PSG themselves who offered Neymar to these two teams. As a result, because Neymar's salary is too big, no team is ready to buy him. Moreover, Neymar is still under contract until 2025. Offers to Chelsea and Juventus are as loan players with the option of paying salaries in half, therefore the problem is about salaries that are too high. What's more, PSG's current situation where Mbappe has the right to choose players to keep or sell, not only that and the many privileges given to him makes PSG's situation not in good condition.

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as reported by "rmc sport", olympique lyon is about to sign midfielder Corentin Tolisso, who comes from the youth of the club and had left him in 2017 for bayern munich. according to the report, the medical check will take place on thursday. CT has no more future with the german champion and looking for a new club - with OL he has most likely found a new club

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 29, 2022, 04:30:03 PM

The rumours about Neymar have made me really surprised. I don't understand the reason why they are so eager to sell him this summer. Is it related to his being very injury prone for some time or is there something else? Chelsea and Juventus have been recorded as the teams interested in him highly these days. If he really leaves then it would be interesting to watch these two teams fight for him. I think they have similar level of chances to sign him but it is hard to know what country Neymar is keen on going to now.

Besides injured issue one of the biggest problem why PSG decide to sell Neymar because he cannot play good such as in Barcelona and as the most expensive player in the world who transfered from Barcelona to PSG he seems became overpriced and moreover in PSG they already have Messi and Mbappe so losing him aren't big problem for PSG and i heard too PSG actually has hugh of debt because of their habit always be spend a lot of money to buy players or for salary players so with selling Neymar will slightly reduce expenses money from PSG

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PSG have been silent so far in the transfer window but there is still a long time for the end of it. They have signed only Nuno Mendes so far after his loan deal with PSG has finished. The transfer fee was 38 million euros. He is a good and very young left-back so the deal is a good investment for the future. Maybe PSG are waiting for their manager in next season to be determined before going for some targets. Because Pochettino's targets might not match the targets of a possible new manager.

@Distraction it seems that there’s a lot going behind the scenes because it’s been reported that PSG told Neymar that he’s no longer wanted, and with no fixed coach I wonder who’s making these kind of decisions and based on what facts do you tell a player like Neymar to just leave?.

Lastly I feel that they spend a lot to keep Mbappe and it’s effected their spending power, so unless Neymar leaves I don’t expect them to make major signings cause they already have a quality squad, and don’t really need fresh additions in this transfer window.

I also thought that the squad is pretty much ok and maybe some tweaks in the midfield were needed. But other than that I think they have a very good squad. The problem is that they don't have a coach right now and Christophe Galtier who they are about to get is not much better compared to Mauricio Pochettino. I don't know why anyone is going to tell Neymar, that he is not needed anymore. We all know that he is obviously one of the best. Probably they want to sell him so that they can make some money and buy a good midfielder.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 29, 2022, 04:30:03 PM

The rumours about Neymar have made me really surprised. I don't understand the reason why they are so eager to sell him this summer. Is it related to his being very injury prone for some time or is there something else?

There may be jealousy from other players that make officials really interesting to sell him. we all know, which player is bigger than the club? I believe a player who wants Neymar to go is want to take his name over the club, we all know that name, a player who is money-oriented and must be bigger than the club (which Madrid won't recruit him). Discipline problem is just cover the issue which reality problem is a player itself.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 29, 2022, 04:30:03 PM

The rumours about Neymar have made me really surprised. I don't understand the reason why they are so eager to sell him this summer. Is it related to his being very injury prone for some time or is there something else? Chelsea and Juventus have been recorded as the teams interested in him highly these days. If he really leaves then it would be interesting to watch these two teams fight for him. I think they have similar level of chances to sign him but it is hard to know what country Neymar is keen on going to now.

The move to Juventus should be seen as clear speculations, he won't bother moving towards that ends truthfully.
He hasn't be worth the buy for me, he has proved less since he's move from Barcelona to Paris Saint Germany.With the deal handed over to Kylian Mbappe, I see he does not want competition and would want Neymar to leave the club behind the scenes.
To Chelsea ? Potential Dreamers! Thiago Silva is responsible for fuelling news and speculations of him coming to Chelsea, but he would make lots of jersey sale for Chelsea if he eventually moves down to the premier league.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 29, 2022, 04:30:03 PM

The rumours about Neymar have made me really surprised. I don't understand the reason why they are so eager to sell him this summer. Is it related to his being very injury prone for some time or is there something else? Chelsea and Juventus have been recorded as the teams interested in him highly these days. If he really leaves then it would be interesting to watch these two teams fight for him. I think they have similar level of chances to sign him but it is hard to know what country Neymar is keen on going to now.

It is surprising to hear rumors that PSG will sell Neymar, even though Neymar's contract expires in 2025. Then after I researched from various sources,
it turned out that the main reason Neymar was sold was disciplinary problems and also Neymar is prone to injury. Because we know that several
times Neymar was undisciplined during training sessions with PSG, then Neymar, who has a high salary, also often gets injured. That's what PSG
considers to include Neymar in PSG's selling list in this year's transfer market, indeed if we look at Neymar's goal productivity has also decreased
this season. So it's natural that PSG intend to sell Neymar, but the problem is that not many clubs can afford to pay for Neymar's transfer fee, which is
very large and also has a high salary burden. I think the most logical club that could sign Neymar is Chelsea, which has strong finances. Moreover,
Chelsea does need a striker after being left by Lukaku, who is on loan at Inter.

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