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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 27, 2021, 02:15:29 PM

So far in the Nantes - Lyon game, I see that Nantes are performing better than Lyon. Lyon still haven't got their first win and if they play like this they will maintain the bad streak. They have really effective attacking players now. They have signed Xherdan Shaqiri and he is in the starting eleven now also. Let's see if they will manage to win this game somehow.

Nantes was playing better the entire match,but Lyon had some really good chance,in the end of the game Lyon received a red card and played with 10 men and was able to win in the end.I still dont understand how this game had only 1 goal and not like 3 or 4.Always attacks and good chances but ended up 0-1 for Lyon

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 27, 2021, 05:54:19 AM

It's not about salary because Mbappe rejected all offers from PSG so far according to news on media. He wants to find a new challenge and wants to be a biggest star in a team he is playing for.

With Neymar, Messi in PSG, Mbappe will not have that position. In Real Madrid, he will be the first brick of the Galaticos 3.0 in Bernabeu. I guess it is what Mbappe wants at this time and PSG won't be able to pay him too high salary. After they signed with Messi and pay too high salary for Messi.

Do we know what the offers were? I mean we know that there were few offers from PSG and he declined them all but we do not know exact numbers as far as I know, and I am 100% sure that it wasn't 50 million euro per year neither, nor was it 2x of what Real could offer neither, PSG could do that, they do not have la liga financial cap type of deals and they could offer Mbappe way more than what Real could offer.

Make it a stupid offer, make it so stupid that people will think that it would have been better to let him go for free instead of paying him that much, make it that big and then you get Mbappe for sure. I know 100 million a year sounds silly, but I just want to give an example; would mbappe say no to 100 million a year? Of course not, which means there IS a number that he would accept, maybe not 100 because that is too much but there is definitely a number out there.

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So far in the Nantes - Lyon game, I see that Nantes are performing better than Lyon. Lyon still haven't got their first win and if they play like this they will maintain the bad streak. They have really effective attacking players now. They have signed Xherdan Shaqiri and he is in the starting eleven now also. Let's see if they will manage to win this game somehow.

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Today, the new match week start with the Nantes - Lyon game. As we know, Lyon couldn't have a good start so far. They got 2 draws and 1 loss. They were really close to getting their first win against Clermont but Clermont made an insane comeback from 3-1 to 3-3 and it ended like that. Nantes might be a worse team than Lyon in general but Lyon should still be careful in this game. Nantes made Monaco have big difficulties in their first game. I still believe that Lyon will be victorious here.

I wouldnt be surprised if Lyon dosent win as well today,they are playing really bad at the start of this season plus they are playing an away against Nantes that arent playing really good but are always a hard opponent to beat

Lyon is in awkward situation with only 2 points after 3 games. Nantes is relatively weaker than Lyon regarding its performance last season but with the actual performance of Lyon no one could be sure about the outcome of this game.
The match just begins and the odds are @1.8 for Lyon and @4 for Nantes.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 27, 2021, 05:22:50 AM

Today, the new match week start with the Nantes - Lyon game. As we know, Lyon couldn't have a good start so far. They got 2 draws and 1 loss. They were really close to getting their first win against Clermont but Clermont made an insane comeback from 3-1 to 3-3 and it ended like that. Nantes might be a worse team than Lyon in general but Lyon should still be careful in this game. Nantes made Monaco have big difficulties in their first game. I still believe that Lyon will be victorious here.

I wouldnt be surprised if Lyon dosent win as well today,they are playing really bad at the start of this season plus they are playing an away against Nantes that arent playing really good but are always a hard opponent to beat

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Quote from: barbara44 on August 26, 2021, 01:15:27 PM

I believe that given enough money PSG could still hold him, offer him twice what Real is offering and he will stay, who would say no to 2x amount of money? And give him like 5+ years worth of contract, give him like 50 million a year for 7 years, and I do not see any case that he is not staying, that is A LOT of money.

It's not about salary because Mbappe rejected all offers from PSG so far according to news on media. He wants to find a new challenge and wants to be a biggest star in a team he is playing for.

With Neymar, Messi in PSG, Mbappe will not have that position. In Real Madrid, he will be the first brick of the Galaticos 3.0 in Bernabeu. I guess it is what Mbappe wants at this time and PSG won't be able to pay him too high salary. After they signed with Messi and pay too high salary for Messi.

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Today, the new match week start with the Nantes - Lyon game. As we know, Lyon couldn't have a good start so far. They got 2 draws and 1 loss. They were really close to getting their first win against Clermont but Clermont made an insane comeback from 3-1 to 3-3 and it ended like that. Nantes might be a worse team than Lyon in general but Lyon should still be careful in this game. Nantes made Monaco have big difficulties in their first game. I still believe that Lyon will be victorious here.

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Let's get back on business. Focusing on a specific game today
Nantes' performance has been fluctuating in the first games of the new Ligue 1 season. One draw, one win and one defeat for Antoine Kombouare's men. Therefore, not an exceptional haul, but for a team that last year finished needed the play-off to keep its spot in Ligue 1, it can be safely defined as a positive start.
For tonight's match with Lyon, which it has been a delusion so far, I expect a draw (1-1 or 2-2).

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Quote from: DU18 on August 27, 2021, 04:52:01 AM

Messi is certain to have his first match in PSG match when they travel to Reims headquarters in Ligue 1 on Sunday, and of course if Mbappe doesn't leave of course we will see how good their match will be by using the MMN trio in that match, to be honest, Even though I'm not a PSG fan but I won't miss the match and I really want to see if the MMN trio will be as dangerous as many people are predicting right now.

To be honest, I really hope that Mbappe will stay at PSG because with him staying at PSG, of course Mbappe will learn a lot from star players like Messi and Neymar. Well, Mbappe may be going to Madrid which of course there are also many experienced star players but that will lead Mbappe to adapt again and of course it takes time. By the way, regarding the away game against Reims, I'm not just waiting for Messi's performance because I'm also waiting for Donnarumma's performance. Of the 3 games that have been played PSG still haven't kept a clean sheet, and I hope that if Donnarumma is played maybe PSG will get a clean sheet for the first time this season.

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Messi is certain to have his first match in PSG match when they travel to Reims headquarters in Ligue 1 on Sunday, and of course if Mbappe doesn't leave of course we will see how good their match will be by using the MMN trio in that match, to be honest, Even though I'm not a PSG fan but I won't miss the match and I really want to see if the MMN trio will be as dangerous as many people are predicting right now.

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Quote from: barbara44 on August 26, 2021, 01:15:27 PM

Quote from: AndySt on August 25, 2021, 06:32:13 PM

It's more a matter of principle. Paris Saint-Germain does not need money as much and is not in such a hopeless situation regarding financial fair play as Barcelona, which urgently tried to find buyers for some of its players, so PSG can afford to do such symbolic things, such as, for example, we are not against selling a player, but only on their own terms. However, I am not at all sure that Real Madrid will agree to the proposed conditions, especially since the president of Real Madrid, Florentino Perez, expressed his dissatisfaction with Paris Saint-Germain's rude response to the transfer offer. Real Madrid seems to be ready to increase its offer, but I don't think that it is by the required amount.

I do not think that PSG will be selling Mbappe, I believe that they are going to let him go because there is no money in the world that worths Mbappe and it is not about selling him, it is about basically keeping him and showing that they care about him so much that they even declined 160 million offer. You think that does not have any impact on Mbappes decision to stay or not? Guys were offered 160 million and they said no, which means that Mbappe knows that PSG wants him this badly, and that will play into the fact of how much he will want when contract is offered again.

I believe that given enough money PSG could still hold him, offer him twice what Real is offering and he will stay, who would say no to 2x amount of money? And give him like 5+ years worth of contract, give him like 50 million a year for 7 years, and I do not see any case that he is not staying, that is A LOT of money.

This is a great point of view, the truth for money I do not think that PSG will deliver a player who is really very important for the team and worldwide, it is obvious that Real Madrid thinks it is a rude answer, but they have to offer Much more, what happens is that Real Madrid is accustomed that with the first offer and everyone falls and no, PSG now has the power in their hands with those world-class players, and if they join PSG CR7 wow , I think they have to prepare for all the triumphs that are coming, personally I am a fan of CR7 and just seeing him play in the same team as Messi I think it would make me a great fan of PSG, if with Messi 832 thousand shirts were sold , I do not want to imagine the sales by Ronaldo, besides that the token would go to very high levels.

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Quote from: AndySt on August 25, 2021, 06:32:13 PM

It's more a matter of principle. Paris Saint-Germain does not need money as much and is not in such a hopeless situation regarding financial fair play as Barcelona, which urgently tried to find buyers for some of its players, so PSG can afford to do such symbolic things, such as, for example, we are not against selling a player, but only on their own terms. However, I am not at all sure that Real Madrid will agree to the proposed conditions, especially since the president of Real Madrid, Florentino Perez, expressed his dissatisfaction with Paris Saint-Germain's rude response to the transfer offer. Real Madrid seems to be ready to increase its offer, but I don't think that it is by the required amount.

I do not think that PSG will be selling Mbappe, I believe that they are going to let him go because there is no money in the world that worths Mbappe and it is not about selling him, it is about basically keeping him and showing that they care about him so much that they even declined 160 million offer. You think that does not have any impact on Mbappes decision to stay or not? Guys were offered 160 million and they said no, which means that Mbappe knows that PSG wants him this badly, and that will play into the fact of how much he will want when contract is offered again.

I believe that given enough money PSG could still hold him, offer him twice what Real is offering and he will stay, who would say no to 2x amount of money? And give him like 5+ years worth of contract, give him like 50 million a year for 7 years, and I do not see any case that he is not staying, that is A LOT of money.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on August 25, 2021, 12:44:23 PM

Business wise, its such a bad idea to object to such amount at such crucial time, especially when the player is very much willing to leave the team. That's a lot of profit that a team would be willing to loose on a player to free transfer all in the name of a dream team should his contract with the club expires. You can be sure he won't renew and that would be a straight up free transfer. Though, the team as it is now, with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, it was going to be a complete dominance of the league 1 and a very strong competition for the internal club games. Wise choice for Real Madrid.

Perhaps PSG just doesn't want to sell Mbappe? Did you rightly say that PSG does not need money, and they simply don’t need to sell such a talented player as Mbappe? The championship has just begun, it is not clear which of the players will show themselves in a team with such a strong line-up, perhaps after a while they will want to sell someone else, and leave Mbappe in the team. Or they really believe that this player is worth more than 160 million. In any case, PSG can afford any action without consequences, because they have very strong funding.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on August 25, 2021, 11:27:05 AM

Yes, it seems bizarre. If someone offers you 160m for a player who is out of contract soon and can walk away for free, then why on Earth would you say no and start trying to haggle?

Business wise, its such a bad idea to object to such amount at such crucial time, especially when the player is very much willing to leave the team. That's a lot of profit that a team would be willing to loose on a player to free transfer all in the name of a dream team should his contract with the club expires. You can be sure he won't renew and that would be a straight up free transfer. Though, the team as it is now, with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, it was going to be a complete dominance of the league 1 and a very strong competition for the internal club games. Wise choice for Real Madrid.

It's more a matter of principle. Paris Saint-Germain does not need money as much and is not in such a hopeless situation regarding financial fair play as Barcelona, which urgently tried to find buyers for some of its players, so PSG can afford to do such symbolic things, such as, for example, we are not against selling a player, but only on their own terms. However, I am not at all sure that Real Madrid will agree to the proposed conditions, especially since the president of Real Madrid, Florentino Perez, expressed his dissatisfaction with Paris Saint-Germain's rude response to the transfer offer. Real Madrid seems to be ready to increase its offer, but I don't think that it is by the required amount.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on August 25, 2021, 11:27:05 AM

Yes, it seems bizarre. If someone offers you 160m for a player who is out of contract soon and can walk away for free, then why on Earth would you say no and start trying to haggle?

Business wise, its such a bad idea to object to such amount at such crucial time, especially when the player is very much willing to leave the team. That's a lot of profit that a team would be willing to loose on a player to free transfer all in the name of a dream team should his contract with the club expires. You can be sure he won't renew and that would be a straight up free transfer. Though, the team as it is now, with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, it was going to be a complete dominance of the league 1 and a very strong competition for the internal club games. Wise choice for Real Madrid.

It's a little bit more complicated than that because according to Leonardo Araujo, Kylian Mbappe has promised to never leave the team for free. So we don't know if it's written in his contract but if Mbappe doesn't want to make a free transfert, PSG is able to refuse to sell him to Real Madrid and to keep him for one more year at least and to sell him to another team at a bigger price eventually.

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Weird scene to see the fans fighting the players, last I can remember was malice in palace for NBA, and do not remember this much clear conflict in anything major, probably it did happen between those years, nearly 20 years since then but I have to say I do not remember it. Nice and Marsielle game is postponed and I am not sure if it will even happen at this point, it could be automatic loss for one side.

However we should also consider the fact that the amount of security was vastly not enough, they were able to protect the players who were willing to be protected, but for the fans and the players who wanted to fight, they were not enough in numbers to protect everyone, you do not even have to protect the players only, you also need to protect the fans as well. It was a very shameful scene and I hope that it will never be seen again.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on August 25, 2021, 11:27:05 AM

Yes, it seems bizarre. If someone offers you 160m for a player who is out of contract soon and can walk away for free, then why on Earth would you say no and start trying to haggle?

Business wise, its such a bad idea to object to such amount at such crucial time, especially when the player is very much willing to leave the team. That's a lot of profit that a team would be willing to loose on a player to free transfer all in the name of a dream team should his contract with the club expires. You can be sure he won't renew and that would be a straight up free transfer. Though, the team as it is now, with Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, it was going to be a complete dominance of the league 1 and a very strong competition for the internal club games. Wise choice for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on August 25, 2021, 08:49:18 AM

It is still rumoured that Kylian Mbappe is likely to leave the team to join Real Madrid in this transfer window. And I've heard that Real Madrid made a €160m offer but it was rejected by PSG side as they expected €200m at least. They are not willing to let Mbappe go for a price than they would like. But if they continue to be stubborn, then they may have to lose Mbappe for free after 6 months.

Yes, it seems bizarre. If someone offers you 160m for a player who is out of contract soon and can walk away for free, then why on Earth would you say no and start trying to haggle?
Equally confusing is how Real Madrid can afford to pay such a huge fee. Unless they are planning to structure the deal by paying 1m a year for 160 years Cheesy

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Quote from: MAAManda on August 25, 2021, 09:22:24 AM

Do you know? If PSG does not let Mbappe go to another club, then the other club will get Mbappe for free (not through a team transfer route).
It's not a matter of PSG not needing money or not, the problem is that PSG will not get anything if Mbappe's transfer status becomes a free transfer. We'll see how this Mbappe and PSG drama continues Cheesy

Mbappe will be a free agent from next year. So he has to play one more season in PSG if the transfer doesn't happen now. Actually PSG expecting more amount from Real Madrid to leave Mbappe. Others clubs aren't showing their attempts like RMA. And Mbappe have the interest to play in Real Madrid. Anyway, everything will be clear here within a week. I think the drama will end soon with the transfer of Mbappe.

It's still a mystery over Mbappe's transfer to Real Madrid but will it be a shocking drama this weekend? I think it's still being negotiated but in the news it says leaving purely because this is the player's wish so it's clear that PSG will hold on to it for a high price while Real Madrid are still sticking with the offer because it's urgent with a very short time. so who will relent? Have PSG let Mbappe go this season?
It's still a rumor to this day.

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Quote from: MAAManda on August 25, 2021, 09:22:24 AM

Do you know? If PSG does not let Mbappe go to another club, then the other club will get Mbappe for free (not through a team transfer route).
It's not a matter of PSG not needing money or not, the problem is that PSG will not get anything if Mbappe's transfer status becomes a free transfer. We'll see how this Mbappe and PSG drama continues Cheesy

Mbappe will be a free agent from next year. So he has to play one more season in PSG if the transfer doesn't happen now. Actually PSG expecting more amount from Real Madrid to leave Mbappe. Others clubs aren't showing their attempts like RMA. And Mbappe have the interest to play in Real Madrid. Anyway, everything will be clear here within a week. I think the drama will end soon with the transfer of Mbappe.

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