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Quote from: acquafredda on September 01, 2021, 09:07:22 AM

Ligue 1 cannot be considered among the top-tier European Leagues.
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You should ask yourselves if this league can be competitive relying only on the Paris team.

Ligue 1 is better than many other European leagues but for sure cannot be compared to EPL, La Liga nor Serie A.
Basically, PSG is a top team that worth playing in EPL, otherwise Marseille, Lille and other teams like Nice and Lyon aren't consistent at all in their own league without talking about EL or CL matches...

Of the several existing football leagues, in my opinion the EPL is the most attractive and competitive league compared to other football leagues, clubs competing in the English league have equal strength and the same opportunities to become champions, as did Leicester City in the 2016 season, while other leagues may only have 2 or 3 teams that continue to compete for the championship, such as the :
Bundesliga (Bayern Munich and Dortmund),
Ligue 1 (PSG, Lille),
La Liga (Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid)
Serie A (Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan).

What I realized was that Ligue 1 in the past was a competitive league as well but indeed, they couldn't be consistent to stay on the title track. When I was very young when there was Ligue 1 of course it was about Lyon, Marseille and also Bordeaux and even then, when I have entered into gambling at this age at least I still see these teams as big teams. But yes, I realize their dominance is no longer good in the title race because of that, they can't consistently maintain good management and of course that will also affect their performance in every match.

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Quote from: acquafredda on September 01, 2021, 09:07:22 AM

Ligue 1 cannot be considered among the top-tier European Leagues.
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You should ask yourselves if this league can be competitive relying only on the Paris team.

Ligue 1 is better than many other European leagues but for sure cannot be compared to EPL, La Liga nor Serie A.
Basically, PSG is a top team that worth playing in EPL, otherwise Marseille, Lille and other teams like Nice and Lyon aren't consistent at all in their own league without talking about EL or CL matches...

Of the several existing football leagues, in my opinion the EPL is the most attractive and competitive league compared to other football leagues, clubs competing in the English league have equal strength and the same opportunities to become champions, as did Leicester City in the 2016 season, while other leagues may only have 2 or 3 teams that continue to compete for the championship, such as the :
Bundesliga (Bayern Munich and Dortmund),
Ligue 1 (PSG, Lille),
La Liga (Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid)
Serie A (Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan).

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The coach of PSG has a lot on his hands too many superstars is really hard to handle because everyone wants to play and not be on the bench. Donnarumma came to PSG to be the first goalkeeper and now he is probobly really angry that he is on the bench.

Moving to PSG was a mistake for him. He is 22 years old and he should be pursuing his career further in other top league but he choose to go to PSG just because PSG could afford to pay him so much higher. I know its pretty hard for a goalkeeper to get a spot in some top club but instead of PSG, he could have stay though.

Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

But for me Kaylor Navas had an amazing last season at PSG.

Yeah and there is no reason to put Navas on the bench so Donnarumma need to keep sitting on the bench

Donnarumma is a very talented goalkeeper. He is 22 years old but he already deserves to be in the starting eleven of whatever team he goes to. I also doubt whether PSG are the right club for him at least for now. Because Keylor Navas' performance is still very high. I don't think that PSG will suddenly cut him off from the starting eleven. Donnarumma might not find the chances he want so quickly.

I'm sorry to say it but for me, Donnarumma is a bit overestimated player. Not that he is not a very good goalkeeper but €60 million is a lot of money for him. I believe that this price has been made more from his "gold finger" manager, Mino Raiola, and not so for his skills. PSG wanted a keeper at least younger from Navas and they have money to spend. So everyone is happy, I guess. Grin

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 03, 2021, 03:55:19 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

The coach of PSG has a lot on his hands too many superstars is really hard to handle because everyone wants to play and not be on the bench. Donnarumma came to PSG to be the first goalkeeper and now he is probobly really angry that he is on the bench.

Moving to PSG was a mistake for him. He is 22 years old and he should be pursuing his career further in other top league but he choose to go to PSG just because PSG could afford to pay him so much higher. I know its pretty hard for a goalkeeper to get a spot in some top club but instead of PSG, he could have stay though.

Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

But for me Kaylor Navas had an amazing last season at PSG.

Yeah and there is no reason to put Navas on the bench so Donnarumma need to keep sitting on the bench

Donnarumma is a very talented goalkeeper. He is 22 years old but he already deserves to be in the starting eleven of whatever team he goes to. I also doubt whether PSG are the right club for him at least for now. Because Keylor Navas' performance is still very high. I don't think that PSG will suddenly cut him off from the starting eleven. Donnarumma might not find the chances he want so quickly.

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I think that for this season, if the health of both goalkeepers is in order, then the principle of rotation will be applied, when, for example, Navas plays in the championship, and Donnarumma plays in the cup matches or vice versa.

I think it is what will happen in this season. If Keylor Navas won't make serious mistakes, Donnarumma will not be able to overtake Keylor position. He will need to spend a first season in PSG as a substitution for Keylor.

Donnarumma is a great goalkeeper. We have seen his ability before. With his help, Italy has won the Euros this season. And Italy has conceded far fewer goals than any other team. My guess is that Pochettino will give him the responsibility of goalkeeper of important matches.

I also think Donnarumma will be given a chance to play in UCL matches. PSG now has a lot of talented players. Everything will depend on the coach, he will decide which player is suitable for his team. But as like @laurenB7742, I think too that Donnarumma might be given priority in important matches.

The coach of PSG has a lot on his hands too many superstars is really hard to handle because everyone wants to play and not be on the bench. Donnarumma came to PSG to be the first goalkeeper and now he is probobly really angry that he is on the bench. But for me Kaylor Navas had an amazing last season at PSG.

Yeah, this is the point. It is very difficult to control if there are more star players on the team. Coach Pocchetinno now has a lot of responsibility. He has to control the players and influence them. But it will be difficult for him to choose the right squad. His skills will be proven now.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 03, 2021, 03:55:19 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

The coach of PSG has a lot on his hands too many superstars is really hard to handle because everyone wants to play and not be on the bench. Donnarumma came to PSG to be the first goalkeeper and now he is probobly really angry that he is on the bench.

Moving to PSG was a mistake for him. He is 22 years old and he should be pursuing his career further in other top league but he choose to go to PSG just because PSG could afford to pay him so much higher. I know its pretty hard for a goalkeeper to get a spot in some top club but instead of PSG, he could have stay though.

Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

But for me Kaylor Navas had an amazing last season at PSG.

Yeah and there is no reason to put Navas on the bench so Donnarumma need to keep sitting on the bench

Is is a questionable move by Donnarumma, but honestly speaking imagine you are 22 and were is his shoes and a club comes and pays you an absolutely insane amount of money. We now say hey it is important to play, and I am sure he expected to be number one goalkeeper, but still if you can earn a high amount of money in the range of double digit millions, and you can play with Neymar and Mbappe, now even Messi, what are you going to do? It is not an easy decision to be honest. And he can also still become number one, the season is very young still.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

The coach of PSG has a lot on his hands too many superstars is really hard to handle because everyone wants to play and not be on the bench. Donnarumma came to PSG to be the first goalkeeper and now he is probobly really angry that he is on the bench.

Moving to PSG was a mistake for him. He is 22 years old and he should be pursuing his career further in other top league but he choose to go to PSG just because PSG could afford to pay him so much higher. I know its pretty hard for a goalkeeper to get a spot in some top club but instead of PSG, he could have stay though.

Quote from: Joca97 on September 03, 2021, 03:37:21 PM

But for me Kaylor Navas had an amazing last season at PSG.

Yeah and there is no reason to put Navas on the bench so Donnarumma need to keep sitting on the bench

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Quote from: AndySt on September 02, 2021, 06:30:36 PM

I think that for this season, if the health of both goalkeepers is in order, then the principle of rotation will be applied, when, for example, Navas plays in the championship, and Donnarumma plays in the cup matches or vice versa.

I think it is what will happen in this season. If Keylor Navas won't make serious mistakes, Donnarumma will not be able to overtake Keylor position. He will need to spend a first season in PSG as a substitution for Keylor.

Donnarumma is a great goalkeeper. We have seen his ability before. With his help, Italy has won the Euros this season. And Italy has conceded far fewer goals than any other team. My guess is that Pochettino will give him the responsibility of goalkeeper of important matches.

I also think Donnarumma will be given a chance to play in UCL matches. PSG now has a lot of talented players. Everything will depend on the coach, he will decide which player is suitable for his team. But as like @laurenB7742, I think too that Donnarumma might be given priority in important matches.

The coach of PSG has a lot on his hands too many superstars is really hard to handle because everyone wants to play and not be on the bench. Donnarumma came to PSG to be the first goalkeeper and now he is probobly really angry that he is on the bench. But for me Kaylor Navas had an amazing last season at PSG.

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I think that for this season, if the health of both goalkeepers is in order, then the principle of rotation will be applied, when, for example, Navas plays in the championship, and Donnarumma plays in the cup matches or vice versa.

I think it is what will happen in this season. If Keylor Navas won't make serious mistakes, Donnarumma will not be able to overtake Keylor position. He will need to spend a first season in PSG as a substitution for Keylor.

Donnarumma is a great goalkeeper. We have seen his ability before. With his help, Italy has won the Euros this season. And Italy has conceded far fewer goals than any other team. My guess is that Pochettino will give him the responsibility of goalkeeper of important matches.

I also think Donnarumma will be given a chance to play in UCL matches. PSG now has a lot of talented players. Everything will depend on the coach, he will decide which player is suitable for his team. But as like @laurenB7742, I think too that Donnarumma might be given priority in important matches.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 02, 2021, 06:30:36 PM

I think that for this season, if the health of both goalkeepers is in order, then the principle of rotation will be applied, when, for example, Navas plays in the championship, and Donnarumma plays in the cup matches or vice versa.

I think it is what will happen in this season. If Keylor Navas won't make serious mistakes, Donnarumma will not be able to overtake Keylor position. He will need to spend a first season in PSG as a substitution for Keylor.

Donnarumma is a great goalkeeper. We have seen his ability before. With his help, Italy has won the Euros this season. And Italy has conceded far fewer goals than any other team. My guess is that Pochettino will give him the responsibility of goalkeeper of important matches.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 02, 2021, 06:30:36 PM

I think that for this season, if the health of both goalkeepers is in order, then the principle of rotation will be applied, when, for example, Navas plays in the championship, and Donnarumma plays in the cup matches or vice versa.

I think it is what will happen in this season. If Keylor Navas won't make serious mistakes, Donnarumma will not be able to overtake Keylor position. He will need to spend a first season in PSG as a substitution for Keylor.

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In any case, no one will constantly keep the best goalkeeper of the European Championship on the bench, especially while paying a huge salary because of the amount of which Milan and his ungrateful pupil did not come together Wink

It will be interesting to see who they will bet on and who will be the main goalkeeper in the Champions League matches. However, football, like life itself, is quite changeable and any injuries or an uncertain game can make their own adjustments to this issue.

It happened with Buffon and Areloa years ago and results show that it is not a good thing. One club should have only one main goalkeeper for all matches. No main goalkeeper will make the defense system weaker. It is not good for the team in general because defenders need to work with a main goalkeeper to understand each other better.

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The experience Keylor Navas has is one of reasons he is the first choice for goalkeeper position in PSG now. However, I believe that PSG won't sign a contract with Donnarumma just to use him as a second goalkeeper. Additionally, Donnarumma won't join PSG with the intention to be a substitution for Keylor Navas.
He is talented and only lack of experience in Champions League because since his debut in Milan, AC Milan did not have a single season in Champions League. The Best player of Euro 2020 title is a good recognition for Donnarumma. He will beat Keylor and take the first position soon.

Keylor Navas is much more experienced than Donnarumma so it is only natural that PSG give him the opportunity to become the team's number one goalkeeper. Meanwhile, Donnarumma was brought to PSG as a second goalkeeper who might replace Navas as the main goalkeeper if Donnarumma's performance is better than Navas. Sooner or later Donnarumma will become PSG's main goalkeeper considering Navas is currently 34 years old. Navas' achievement with the team and his experience make him worthy of being PSG's current main goalkeeper. Donnarumma has to be patient for that.

I think that for this season, if the health of both goalkeepers is in order, then the principle of rotation will be applied, when, for example, Navas plays in the championship, and Donnarumma plays in the cup matches or vice versa. In any case, no one will constantly keep the best goalkeeper of the European Championship on the bench, especially while paying a huge salary because of the amount of which Milan and his ungrateful pupil did not come together Wink

It will be interesting to see who they will bet on and who will be the main goalkeeper in the Champions League matches. However, football, like life itself, is quite changeable and any injuries or an uncertain game can make their own adjustments to this issue.

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Quote from: acquafredda on September 01, 2021, 09:07:22 AM

Ligue 1 cannot be considered among the top-tier European Leagues.

well I agree, even the Portuguese league manages to have teams that won the champions league, and frankly PSG is simply a team that is at a very different level from other teams, and this also greatly unbalances competitiveness

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PSG still has not won anything.

now that they have lionel messi they will probably finally be able to win the champions league

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Regarding Mbappé I believe it was very stupid to not sell now because at the end of his contract the guy will leave anyway.

truth. but he is still fundamental for PSG to win the Champions League, Is a big bet the club is making by keeping him

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Quote from: acquafredda on September 01, 2021, 09:07:22 AM

Ligue 1 cannot be considered among the top-tier European Leagues.
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You should ask yourselves if this league can be competitive relying only on the Paris team.

Ligue 1 is better than many other European leagues but for sure cannot be compared to EPL, La Liga nor Serie A.
Basically, PSG is a top team that worth playing in EPL, otherwise Marseille, Lille and other teams like Nice and Lyon aren't consistent at all in their own league without talking about EL or CL matches...

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Quote from: kro55 on September 01, 2021, 08:22:03 AM

Moreover, their goalkeeper was not very experienced.

Keylor Navas played for Real Madrid for 5 years and won 3 consecutive UCL which most players cherish to. Even Messi couldn’t have 3 consecutive UCL titles, did he?(No disrespect to Messi) & you are saying him not much experienced Tongue

The experience Keylor Navas has is one of reasons he is the first choice for goalkeeper position in PSG now. However, I believe that PSG won't sign a contract with Donnarumma just to use him as a second goalkeeper. Additionally, Donnarumma won't join PSG with the intention to be a substitution for Keylor Navas.

He is talented and only lack of experience in Champions League because since his debut in Milan, AC Milan did not have a single season in Champions League. The Best player of Euro 2020 title is a good recognition for Donnarumma. He will beat Keylor and take the first position soon.

I also believe in Donnarumma. He is one of the best goalkeepers in this era I think. He is only 22 years old now but he is very talented and great already. Milan lost their best player actually.

I like Keylor Navas. He was awesome at Real Madrid and he is still doing a great job at PSG. He is 34 now but it is still a good age for goalkeepers. Donnarumma might have difficulty in taking his place in the starting eleven but I strongly believe that he will make it.

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It is true that there are not many strong clubs in this league. Because the players are not that qualified in general also. Only the players of some big teams are really qualified and have the capacity to play at strong teams in big leagues like the English Premier League.

Other than English premier league, which league has so many complete/strong team? More or less all the other leagues are same. Dominated by a few teams. Look at Bundesliga, Serie A, even La Liga.

I would say that Bundesliga is definitely up there, but looking at Serie A, it was finally broken, and not like ligue 1 broken because in ligue 1 lille won last year but PSG is still the best team this year, in serie A things finally truly broken because Juventus is no longer the best team and not looking like they may win the league this year neither, there is a big competition going there and even though they lost Lukaku, Inter is still looking like a great team.

I will give you bundesliga because Bayern is definitely the best team there and will win the league for sure unless some shock happens, and La liga always had 2 great competitors with Barcelona and real Madrid instead of one which made it a bit more special than having just one team, plus now ATM is playing awesome and not only they won last year but this year they are looking great too.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 02, 2021, 10:53:26 AM

The experience Keylor Navas has is one of reasons he is the first choice for goalkeeper position in PSG now. However, I believe that PSG won't sign a contract with Donnarumma just to use him as a second goalkeeper. Additionally, Donnarumma won't join PSG with the intention to be a substitution for Keylor Navas.

He is talented and only lack of experience in Champions League because since his debut in Milan, AC Milan did not have a single season in Champions League. The Best player of Euro 2020 title is a good recognition for Donnarumma. He will beat Keylor and take the first position soon.

Keylor Navas is much more experienced than Donnarumma so it is only natural that PSG give him the opportunity to become the team's number one goalkeeper. Meanwhile, Donnarumma was brought to PSG as a second goalkeeper who might replace Navas as the main goalkeeper if Donnarumma's performance is better than Navas. Sooner or later Donnarumma will become PSG's main goalkeeper considering Navas is currently 34 years old. Navas' achievement with the team and his experience make him worthy of being PSG's current main goalkeeper. Donnarumma has to be patient for that.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 01, 2021, 08:22:03 AM

Moreover, their goalkeeper was not very experienced.

Keylor Navas played for Real Madrid for 5 years and won 3 consecutive UCL which most players cherish to. Even Messi couldn’t have 3 consecutive UCL titles, did he?(No disrespect to Messi) & you are saying him not much experienced Tongue

The experience Keylor Navas has is one of reasons he is the first choice for goalkeeper position in PSG now. However, I believe that PSG won't sign a contract with Donnarumma just to use him as a second goalkeeper. Additionally, Donnarumma won't join PSG with the intention to be a substitution for Keylor Navas.

He is talented and only lack of experience in Champions League because since his debut in Milan, AC Milan did not have a single season in Champions League. The Best player of Euro 2020 title is a good recognition for Donnarumma. He will beat Keylor and take the first position soon.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 31, 2021, 01:36:49 PM

It is true that there are not many strong clubs in this league. Because the players are not that qualified in general also. Only the players of some big teams are really qualified and have the capacity to play at strong teams in big leagues like the English Premier League.

Other than English premier league, which league has so many complete/strong team? More or less all the other leagues are same. Dominated by a few teams. Look at Bundesliga, Serie A, even La Liga.

Quote from: kro55 on September 01, 2021, 08:22:03 AM

Moreover, their goalkeeper was not very experienced.

Keylor Navas played for Real Madrid for 5 years and won 3 consecutive UCL which most players cherish to. Even Messi couldn’t have 3 consecutive UCL titles, did he?(No disrespect to Messi) & you are saying him not much experienced Tongue

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Quote from: DU18 on August 31, 2021, 11:01:01 AM

Messi arrival to PSG will actually increase the prestige of the French league and in my opinion, if Mbappe continue to stay at PSG, of course it will reduce his chances of winning the Ballon d'Or and of course Messi big name will make mbappe lose his prestige at PSG, I think more better for mbappe to go to real madrid instead of having to stay at PSG at this time.

Mbappe won't leave PSG till next summer. The transfer season was closed and Real Madrid made his last transfer with Camavinga, not with Mbappe. He has 8 to 10 years to find his Ballon d'Or and he should not hurry with this personal title hunting.

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 31, 2021, 10:43:17 AM

That's one of the most plausible reasons at the moment about why PSG didn't sell Mbappe this season to Real Madrid. There is no other big reason PSG signed Messi from Barcelona other than improving the status of the French League 1 for the better and giving them the opportunity to win the champions league title this season or next season. At least not a big problem for PSG so far rejecting Real Madrid's offer in my opinion.

Finally Mbappe will play for PSG in this season and I hope that PSG won't lose him as a free player. I meant I believe PSG will succeed to renew the contract with Mbappe. My belief is from the better strength of PSG in Champions League and I think they will only become stronger with Messi, Ramos and Donnarumma.

Win Champions League is possible but they can win it this season or next season with those new players. I believe if Mbappe see the new strength of PSG, he will renew his contract.

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