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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on September 07, 2021, 11:57:27 PM

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What's interesting with the many star players that PSG have, usually there will be a small commotion, because
usually star players are selfish. This is Pochettino's job as a coach who must manage his players, to be disciplined and professional. But we know
Pochettino has never coached a big team before, so this is the first time he has to manage a lot of star players.

It would bring headache to Pochettino because Ramos if is healthy, will not feel happy if he won't have a solid position in centre of PSG defense system. He will try to become a leader in the defense system after a few months.

In any other situation I would definitely agree with you that Ramos would want to take over the defense and be the leader there, however since he was basically let go from Real Madrid, dude must have realized a bit time ago that he is not the great player that he used to be and he is way older. This is why even Messi was let go from his team, if Messi can be sent away, Ramos has no value at all right now.

I am not saying he is not a good player, of course he is a good player and of course he deserves to play, but if he acts as if he is the leader and disturbs people, then I have to say he is also not inexpendable neither, he would be basically fired mid-season for not being a team player. However if he acts like a leader on defense and team is okay with it, and players are fine with it, then I have to say that would not be a problem at all, as long as other players accept it.

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I don't think coach Pocchetinno will give Messi a chance to play for 90 minutes. But the coach should put Messi on the field in every match now. So that he can get a good idea about PSG's match strategy and play style. And his understanding with the players is even better. Messi is not needed in Ligue 1 matches. PSG is strong enough without Messi.

Even in Champions League matches, the usefulness of the aged Messi is in doubt. Messi was good with certain partners in a certain model of the game, and in PSG, firstly, it requires a lot of versatility, and secondly, it is not clear what the balance will be between the costs of Messi and the benefits from him. Perhaps playing on him will worsen the overall strength of PSG.

Messi is probably older. But his performance is still better than any young player. But if you want to get a good performance from him, you must help him. Messi has the most wages in PSG's squad. So management must have high hopes for him. However, we will have to wait a few more days to see how he performs on the PSG team.

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Quote from: bitjoin on September 08, 2021, 05:52:27 AM

Donnarumma quality as the best goalkeeper cannot be doubted, after successfully breaking through the number one goalkeeper in the italian squad, he will do it again in the PSG squad, he is still very young and the quality of his reflexes is very good when repelling the opponent attack. If PSG coach Pochettino gives Donnarumma playing minutes, he will easily shift keylor navas in the PSG main squad, Moreover, the presence of Donnarumma in the PSG squad is projected to replace the position of Keylor Navas who has entered his old age.

Keylor Navas will be like Buffon in Juventus who plays with experience. Years ago, Szczęsny joined Juventus from AS Roma but he had to accept the second position, after Buffon. Then gradually, he took the first position and is the main goalkeeper in Juventus after that. PSG has solid plan with Donnarumma. They signed a long contract with him, to prepare for Keylor Navass' decreasing performance, retirement or leave in next 1 to 2 seasons.

Even now, it is hard to say who is a better goalkeeper between them but Donna has to accept the second position because he only joined the club in this summer.

Quote from: Spack17 on September 08, 2021, 06:03:08 AM

Messi isn't going to be able to score as he will be at his national team in a match one day before the Ligue 1 match. And Neymar won't also. Because the World Cup Qualifier matches are going to end on that day rather than an earlier date. We will most probably watch Messi and Neymar as of the CL matches. And it is only in one week so we will not have to wait for a long time.

They will be given rest by PSG. They can win match without Messi and Neymar. They need them for big matches in Ligue 1 and Champions League and they are smart enough to give those important players good time to recharge energy after long flights and international duties.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on September 07, 2021, 11:39:22 AM

I don't think coach Pocchetinno will give Messi a chance to play for 90 minutes. But the coach should put Messi on the field in every match now. So that he can get a good idea about PSG's match strategy and play style. And his understanding with the players is even better. Messi is not needed in Ligue 1 matches. PSG is strong enough without Messi.

Even in Champions League matches, the usefulness of the aged Messi is in doubt. Messi was good with certain partners in a certain model of the game, and in PSG, firstly, it requires a lot of versatility, and secondly, it is not clear what the balance will be between the costs of Messi and the benefits from him. Perhaps playing on him will worsen the overall strength of PSG.

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PSG's next opponent is Clermont and the game is on September 11.

I look forward to seeing the performances of Messi Neymar and Ramos together. We all know that Ramos has been the enemy of Messi and Neymar for so long. Ramos has fouled Messi in a bad way many times. Now they will play in the same team at the same time, I am eagerly waiting to see their performance.

PSG has not been defeated in the league so far and of course Clermont will be a commensurate opponent for PSG, because Clermont is in a pretty good condition and team performance, and currently they are in 3rd place in the standings with 8 points from 4 matches and only 4 differences points from PSG which is the leader of the standings, although on paper PSG is more superior but of course Clermont still has the opportunity to be able to get points in Parc des Princes stadium.
The match will certainly be very interesting in my opinion, as a team with a promotion status, Clermont was able to show a fairly consistent and impressive performance at the start of the competition.

PSG must win this match anyway. With such players in the squad, even a draw will be a failure. And no reason can justify the PSG players in case of failure. The only question is whether Messi will score in this match.

Messi isn't going to be able to score as he will be at his national team in a match one day before the Ligue 1 match. And Neymar won't also. Because the World Cup Qualifier matches are going to end on that day rather than an earlier date. We will most probably watch Messi and Neymar as of the CL matches. And it is only in one week so we will not have to wait for a long time.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 08, 2021, 02:57:36 AM

If indeed Donnarumma still wants to be the best goalkeeper, of course he should get more playing opportunities at PSG now and I think that is a very difficult thing, because until now Keylor Navas is still the main choice for Pochettino in guarding PSG goal, after all Keylor Navas performances which are quite consistent this season will certainly make Pochettino keep their squad, I think if Donnarumma is going to play only for the champions league of course it's not a good choice for him because the champions league has only a few games to play, and if indeed Keylor Navas is playing quite well in the league, it is not impossible that he will also play in the champions.

Donnarumma quality as the best goalkeeper cannot be doubted, after successfully breaking through the number one goalkeeper in the italian squad, he will do it again in the PSG squad, he is still very young and the quality of his reflexes is very good when repelling the opponent attack. If PSG coach Pochettino gives Donnarumma playing minutes, he will easily shift keylor navas in the PSG main squad, Moreover, the presence of Donnarumma in the PSG squad is projected to replace the position of Keylor Navas who has entered his old age.

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PSG's next opponent is Clermont and the game is on September 11.

I look forward to seeing the performances of Messi Neymar and Ramos together. We all know that Ramos has been the enemy of Messi and Neymar for so long. Ramos has fouled Messi in a bad way many times. Now they will play in the same team at the same time, I am eagerly waiting to see their performance.

PSG has not been defeated in the league so far and of course Clermont will be a commensurate opponent for PSG, because Clermont is in a pretty good condition and team performance, and currently they are in 3rd place in the standings with 8 points from 4 matches and only 4 differences points from PSG which is the leader of the standings, although on paper PSG is more superior but of course Clermont still has the opportunity to be able to get points in Parc des Princes stadium.
The match will certainly be very interesting in my opinion, as a team with a promotion status, Clermont was able to show a fairly consistent and impressive performance at the start of the competition.

PSG must win this match anyway. With such players in the squad, even a draw will be a failure. And no reason can justify the PSG players in case of failure. The only question is whether Messi will score in this match.

Please do not be overconfident. PSG is a very strong team. They were strong in the previous season as well. However, they did not win the Ligue 1 title last season. The only reason they were overconfident was that they lost 8 matches last season and lost the title. Moreover, Clermont is not a weak team. Winning against them will not be easy.

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I bet that Messi won't play all 90 minutes and won't start the match as a player in the squad. PSG needs him for Champions League and there is no reason why they use him after the international days. They will give him time to rest.

Without Messi, with players they have, PSG will win the match and perhaps win it easily.

I don't think coach Pocchetinno will give Messi a chance to play for 90 minutes. But the coach should put Messi on the field in every match now. So that he can get a good idea about PSG's match strategy and play style. And his understanding with the players is even better. Messi is not needed in Ligue 1 matches. PSG is strong enough without Messi.

Pocchetino needs to give Messi, Donnarumma and Ramos once healed some time to play in the next game imo, 45 minutes should be enough for Messi and Ramos as a start, less than this their impact will be limited like the previous time with Messi and obviously that might affect them negatively since fans and everyone are expecting a lot from them. For Donnarumma, he should play full time whether vs Clermont or in CL, or else Pochettino should explain why the best goalkeeper is on the bench for this long time!

Messi and Neymar won't be able to play in the next game (vs Clermont) unfortunately due to their games in the World Cup qualifiers on September 10. The league game is on September 11 as you know. I was also expecting to see Messi being in the starting eleven normally. After this game, we will watch them in the starting eleven in their Champions League game which is against Club Brugge I think.

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Quote from: snipie on September 07, 2021, 12:47:26 PM

Pocchetino needs to give Messi, Donnarumma and Ramos once healed some time to play in the next game imo, 45 minutes should be enough for Messi and Ramos as a start, less than this their impact will be limited like the previous time with Messi and obviously that might affect them negatively since fans and everyone are expecting a lot from them. For Donnarumma, he should play full time whether vs Clermont or in CL, or else Pochettino should explain why the best goalkeeper is on the bench for this long time!

PSG has formed a strong squad. Now if they want to coordinate between the players. To make the bonding between the players better then new players have to be given plenty of opportunities to play. First, new players must be allowed to perform a full 90 minutes against weaker teams. This will allow them to get an accurate idea of PSG's style of play. It is not possible to perform well with a new team on the field all of a sudden.

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what I'm thinking now is whether Donnarumma's decision to join PSG is a good choice or not, because until now Donnarumma has not played at all and of course if conditions like that continue it is likely to damage his future career

It is normally a good choice. Because PSG have one of the best lineups now and they are very likely to become the champions in the Champions League also this time. However, Keylor Navas is a big obstacle for him. Because he is still the main goalkeeper here. PSG don't seem very eager to change this for now. But maybe, they have some agreement with Navas and Donnarumma both. It can be like Donnarumma will start playing as of the CL games. And after that, maybe they will play in all of the games respectively. Otherwise, Donnarumma had better leave and join a team that he can find chances much more.

If indeed Donnarumma still wants to be the best goalkeeper, of course he should get more playing opportunities at PSG now and I think that is a very difficult thing, because until now Keylor Navas is still the main choice for Pochettino in guarding PSG goal, after all Keylor Navas performances which are quite consistent this season will certainly make Pochettino keep their squad, I think if Donnarumma is going to play only for the champions league of course it's not a good choice for him because the champions league has only a few games to play, and if indeed Keylor Navas is playing quite well in the league, it is not impossible that he will also play in the champions.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 07, 2021, 09:28:53 PM

To be honest, I find it strange that Messi and Ramos are actually in the same team, because they were previously at two big clubs competing against
each other. But this is football, a lot of surprises happen. Now Messi and Ramos are under contract at PSG and they have to be professional. and
I'm sure both of them can do that.

You will find many strange things from Messi and Ronaldo. They won their first national titles on the same day. They had shock transfers in a same summer. They are born to be a competitors with each other.

Ramos and Messi, they are professional and I think they will have no problem to play in the same team. Ramos shown his leadership in the first time he met Messi in PSG.

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What's interesting with the many star players that PSG have, usually there will be a small commotion, because
usually star players are selfish. This is Pochettino's job as a coach who must manage his players, to be disciplined and professional. But we know
Pochettino has never coached a big team before, so this is the first time he has to manage a lot of star players.

It would bring headache to Pochettino because Ramos if is healthy, will not feel happy if he won't have a solid position in centre of PSG defense system. He will try to become a leader in the defense system after a few months.

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I too had these same feeling whether Ramos and Messi would fit in one team, and then I realised that these player’s are pro athletes and while they may have their differences off the pitch, but on the pitch they’ll play as one team. Also I’m hoping that Messi shows some magic soon because after the hype, I’m really waiting to see him perform well on the pitch.

Of course, they are professional players they should be able to adjust. At first it looks strange, but now they are one house they should be able to help each other for Tim. In addition, the role of the coach is also very influential, Mauricio Pochettino should be able to make them feel comfortable. With experience with Tottenham he should be able to control all. It was the safest move to make the team stronger. Many star players are certainly a lot of selfish traits that are obtained because of player status.

To be honest, I find it strange that Messi and Ramos are actually in the same team, because they were previously at two big clubs competing against
each other. But this is football, a lot of surprises happen. Now Messi and Ramos are under contract at PSG and they have to be professional. and
I'm sure both of them can do that. What's interesting with the many star players that PSG have, usually there will be a small commotion, because
usually star players are selfish. This is Pochettino's job as a coach who must manage his players, to be disciplined and professional. But we know
Pochettino has never coached a big team before, so this is the first time he has to manage a lot of star players.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 07, 2021, 07:16:08 AM

I too had these same feeling whether Ramos and Messi would fit in one team, and then I realised that these player’s are pro athletes and while they may have their differences off the pitch, but on the pitch they’ll play as one team. Also I’m hoping that Messi shows some magic soon because after the hype, I’m really waiting to see him perform well on the pitch.

Of course, they are professional players they should be able to adjust. At first it looks strange, but now they are one house they should be able to help each other for Tim. In addition, the role of the coach is also very influential, Mauricio Pochettino should be able to make them feel comfortable. With experience with Tottenham he should be able to control all. It was the safest move to make the team stronger. Many star players are certainly a lot of selfish traits that are obtained because of player status.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 07, 2021, 12:59:55 PM

what I'm thinking now is whether Donnarumma's decision to join PSG is a good choice or not, because until now Donnarumma has not played at all and of course if conditions like that continue it is likely to damage his future career

It is normally a good choice. Because PSG have one of the best lineups now and they are very likely to become the champions in the Champions League also this time. However, Keylor Navas is a big obstacle for him. Because he is still the main goalkeeper here. PSG don't seem very eager to change this for now. But maybe, they have some agreement with Navas and Donnarumma both. It can be like Donnarumma will start playing as of the CL games. And after that, maybe they will play in all of the games respectively. Otherwise, Donnarumma had better leave and join a team that he can find chances much more.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 07, 2021, 12:59:55 PM

what I'm thinking now is whether Donnarumma's decision to join PSG is a good choice or not, because until now Donnarumma has not played at all and of course if conditions like that continue it is likely to damage his future career

I personally think that this is a bad deal from my POV but there is probably some assurance from PSG that he will play at some point to replace Navas, next season most likely. He is 22 years old and he could choose to play in all other league aside from Ligue 1, this will put a dent on his career especially if he is benched all the time

Anyway I think PSG has a chance to win all 38 matches this season without losing even once. This is pretty much expected from PSG especially with alot of top players in their squad

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Quote from: Ebede on September 06, 2021, 01:45:17 PM

Having won the European Championship, I think Donnarumma will be eager and ambitious to win the Champions League.
The young likewise should grow,do I expect more start in the Champions League for him.
Navas is experience quite obvious but I'd choose the later over him.

Donnarumma's performance in the Euro 2020 championship was indeed very good and he even won the best player award in the championship, but what I'm thinking now is whether Donnarumma's decision to join PSG is a good choice or not, because until now Donnarumma has not played at all and of course if conditions like that continue it is likely to damage his future career and is it possible just to earn a big salary at PSG, Donnarumma is willing to become a backup goalkeeper for Keylor Navas Huh

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I bet that Messi won't play all 90 minutes and won't start the match as a player in the squad. PSG needs him for Champions League and there is no reason why they use him after the international days. They will give him time to rest.

Without Messi, with players they have, PSG will win the match and perhaps win it easily.

I don't think coach Pocchetinno will give Messi a chance to play for 90 minutes. But the coach should put Messi on the field in every match now. So that he can get a good idea about PSG's match strategy and play style. And his understanding with the players is even better. Messi is not needed in Ligue 1 matches. PSG is strong enough without Messi.

Pocchetino needs to give Messi, Donnarumma and Ramos once healed some time to play in the next game imo, 45 minutes should be enough for Messi and Ramos as a start, less than this their impact will be limited like the previous time with Messi and obviously that might affect them negatively since fans and everyone are expecting a lot from them. For Donnarumma, he should play full time whether vs Clermont or in CL, or else Pochettino should explain why the best goalkeeper is on the bench for this long time!

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 07, 2021, 09:21:01 AM

I bet that Messi won't play all 90 minutes and won't start the match as a player in the squad. PSG needs him for Champions League and there is no reason why they use him after the international days. They will give him time to rest.

Without Messi, with players they have, PSG will win the match and perhaps win it easily.

I don't think coach Pocchetinno will give Messi a chance to play for 90 minutes. But the coach should put Messi on the field in every match now. So that he can get a good idea about PSG's match strategy and play style. And his understanding with the players is even better. Messi is not needed in Ligue 1 matches. PSG is strong enough without Messi.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 07, 2021, 07:16:08 AM

I too had these same feeling whether Ramos and Messi would fit in one team, and then I realised that these player’s are pro athletes and while they may have their differences off the pitch, but on the pitch they’ll play as one team. Also I’m hoping that Messi shows some magic soon because after the hype, I’m really waiting to see him perform well on the pitch.

Great question. I am curious too. Messi needs time to recover after long flight, jet lag and international matches. I think PSG will not use him in the debut squad. If Messi plays, he will start from the bench and join as a substitution.

Ramos is still struggling to recover from injury and get his fitness back. Maybe next one month, we might see them in the squad of PSG.

Quote from: kassex on September 07, 2021, 08:48:24 AM

PSG must win this match anyway. With such players in the squad, even a draw will be a failure. And no reason can justify the PSG players in case of failure. The only question is whether Messi will score in this match.

I bet that Messi won't play all 90 minutes and won't start the match as a player in the squad. PSG needs him for Champions League and there is no reason why they use him after the international days. They will give him time to rest.

Without Messi, with players they have, PSG will win the match and perhaps win it easily.

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PSG's next opponent is Clermont and the game is on September 11.

I look forward to seeing the performances of Messi Neymar and Ramos together. We all know that Ramos has been the enemy of Messi and Neymar for so long. Ramos has fouled Messi in a bad way many times. Now they will play in the same team at the same time, I am eagerly waiting to see their performance.

PSG has not been defeated in the league so far and of course Clermont will be a commensurate opponent for PSG, because Clermont is in a pretty good condition and team performance, and currently they are in 3rd place in the standings with 8 points from 4 matches and only 4 differences points from PSG which is the leader of the standings, although on paper PSG is more superior but of course Clermont still has the opportunity to be able to get points in Parc des Princes stadium.
The match will certainly be very interesting in my opinion, as a team with a promotion status, Clermont was able to show a fairly consistent and impressive performance at the start of the competition.

PSG must win this match anyway. With such players in the squad, even a draw will be a failure. And no reason can justify the PSG players in case of failure. The only question is whether Messi will score in this match.

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