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Quote from: Luzin on August 18, 2021, 07:32:25 AM

Honestly, I don't really pay attention to the Ligue 1. But since the departure of Messi and Ramos to PSG, I'm a little bit interested in seeing PSG play. If you look at the squad inside, they are a team with many stars. It can be said that PSG is a dream team plan even though some players are not young anymore. Last year PSG was in second place in the final standings, having one point difference with Lille. Actually, if you look at the composition of PSG's players, they are more favored, but it seems they are not lucky. This year I think PSG will win the Ligue 1.

Lol. Yup. I was about to say that we’ll be seeing this thread get bumped more now that Messi is playing in the farmer’s league. Cheesy

This thread was mostly ignored by the regs of the gambling section from what I have seen.

And PSG will prolly be the favorite to win the CL at around 1.90 - 2.05 in the outright.

Last I checked it was around 3.5+ in most places, and that is good odds honestly because I believe there is a good chance they may actually end up winning. However just because the odds are good for what the real odds are, that doesn't mean that we should wait 8 months to get 3.5 odds back, I can go ahead and do that a lot easier in a week, just bet on 2-3 clubs that is favored to win a game and you get that anyway.

Only reason why people gamble on PSG to win UCL is the fact that 3.7 or 3.8 whatever odds there is, is not "favored to win" in regular games, it is usually the underdogs, so you get a 3.7+ bet while betting on the high favorites to win at the same time which is unique and that is why people bet on it. I do not know what else to say, sure Messi did played a role in PSG getting more famous but they were already getting quite good amount of players for free as well, they would still be a very high favorites even without Messi.

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Quote from: Spack17 on August 18, 2021, 08:08:41 AM

Quote from: Luzin on August 18, 2021, 07:32:25 AM

Honestly, I don't really pay attention to the Ligue 1. But since the departure of Messi and Ramos to PSG, I'm a little bit interested in seeing PSG play. If you look at the squad inside, they are a team with many stars. It can be said that PSG is a dream team plan even though some players are not young anymore. Last year PSG was in second place in the final standings, having one point difference with Lille. Actually, if you look at the composition of PSG's players, they are more favored, but it seems they are not lucky. This year I think PSG will win the Ligue 1.

Agreed. I wasn't following the Ligue 1 very much before. I just sometimes watched the games of the big teams in the league. But now, everything has changed for me. Grin

As Messi has joined PSG, I've started to have an interest in PSG's next games with Messi. And I'm going to watch the Brest game as it's going to be Messi's first game with the team.

My condition is the same as yours. I used to look at the highlights and statistics of Ligue 1 matches to make bets. But after Messi joined PSG, I decided to enjoy all the upcoming matches of PSG. I don't want to miss Messi's gameplay, I hope I don't find it boring to enjoy PSG matches.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 18, 2021, 07:32:25 AM

Honestly, I don't really pay attention to the Ligue 1. But since the departure of Messi and Ramos to PSG, I'm a little bit interested in seeing PSG play. If you look at the squad inside, they are a team with many stars. It can be said that PSG is a dream team plan even though some players are not young anymore. Last year PSG was in second place in the final standings, having one point difference with Lille. Actually, if you look at the composition of PSG's players, they are more favored, but it seems they are not lucky. This year I think PSG will win the Ligue 1.

Lol. Yup. I was about to say that we’ll be seeing this thread get bumped more now that Messi is playing in the farmer’s league. Cheesy

This thread was mostly ignored by the regs of the gambling section from what I have seen.

And PSG will prolly be the favorite to win the CL at around 1.90 - 2.05 in the outright.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 18, 2021, 07:32:25 AM

Honestly, I don't really pay attention to the Ligue 1. But since the departure of Messi and Ramos to PSG, I'm a little bit interested in seeing PSG play. If you look at the squad inside, they are a team with many stars. It can be said that PSG is a dream team plan even though some players are not young anymore. Last year PSG was in second place in the final standings, having one point difference with Lille. Actually, if you look at the composition of PSG's players, they are more favored, but it seems they are not lucky. This year I think PSG will win the Ligue 1.

Agreed. I wasn't following the Ligue 1 very much before. I just sometimes watched the games of the big teams in the league. But now, everything has changed for me. Grin

As Messi has joined PSG, I've started to have an interest in PSG's next games with Messi. And I'm going to watch the Brest game as it's going to be Messi's first game with the team.

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Honestly, I don't really pay attention to the Ligue 1. But since the departure of Messi and Ramos to PSG, I'm a little bit interested in seeing PSG play. If you look at the squad inside, they are a team with many stars. It can be said that PSG is a dream team plan even though some players are not young anymore. Last year PSG was in second place in the final standings, having one point difference with Lille. Actually, if you look at the composition of PSG's players, they are more favored, but it seems they are not lucky. This year I think PSG will win the Ligue 1.

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There are two days left for the first game that we are going to watch Messi in it. But I would like to indicate that Messi is lacking match fitness right now. Because he was a free agent before coming here. And this transfer happened quite late considering the start of the new season in the Ligue 1. Therefore, maybe he won't play really awesome in this game. But it will be really interesting to watch him playing for a different team for the first time ever.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 18, 2021, 06:42:16 AM

I agree. As the strategies of these two teams are not the same, Messi may need some time to adapt. But having Neymar alongside him will help him a great deal to start playing like always at the earliest. I wonder whether the coach will prefer to put Messi in the starting eleven right away. I feel like he will.

Neymar and several other players at PSG seem to have quite understood how Messi and how to play. The single most important thing right now is how the other players in the starting eleven allow him to bring out all his potential to help the team win. Perhap at the end of his career in the next few season, Messi no longer want to achieve individual achievement as the top scorer and will concentrate on providing accurate passes to other strikers for goals. Very curious to see him playing for the first time with PSG.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on August 18, 2021, 02:05:42 AM

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The opening match of this week is between Brest and PSG. And it looks like Messi and Neymar both will be starting to play as of this match. Considering this news, all eyes will be on Messi of course. People are really curious about his first performance at a different team. I will watch this very special match also. Maybe Messi can have a little difficulty as it'll be his first match. But I've no doubt that he will adapt to the team in a short time.

Messi has been with Barcelona for a long time, he will have trouble adapting to the new team. There are many differences between the strategy of Barcelona and the strategy of PSG. However, since Messi has played with Neymar before, I believe it will not take long for Messi to adapt to PSG. Moreover, all the players of PSG are experienced enough. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to adapt to such an experienced squad.

I agree. As the strategies of these two teams are not the same, Messi may need some time to adapt. But having Neymar alongside him will help him a great deal to start playing like always at the earliest. I wonder whether the coach will prefer to put Messi in the starting eleven right away. I feel like he will.

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Not any balance about salary between French soccer league team or Ligue 1 between PSG and other club, I think looks very boring without any competitive from other team. I think Lionel Messi looking for bigger competitive playing on primer league but he make PSG as new destination without any competitor club like Marseille or Lille. Ligue 1 keep called again as farmer league because only PSG as dominance with star player and have higher salary for their team.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on August 18, 2021, 02:05:42 AM

Quote from: jakdanyel on August 17, 2021, 03:25:46 PM

The opening match of this week is between Brest and PSG. And it looks like Messi and Neymar both will be starting to play as of this match. Considering this news, all eyes will be on Messi of course. People are really curious about his first performance at a different team. I will watch this very special match also. Maybe Messi can have a little difficulty as it'll be his first match. But I've no doubt that he will adapt to the team in a short time.

Messi has been with Barcelona for a long time, he will have trouble adapting to the new team. There are many differences between the strategy of Barcelona and the strategy of PSG. However, since Messi has played with Neymar before, I believe it will not take long for Messi to adapt to PSG. Moreover, all the players of PSG are experienced enough. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to adapt to such an experienced squad.

@Minor Miner I would not have my hopes high about Messi performing right from the go, because he’s had no preseason and due to that he’ll take a while to settle in this league. Lastly a lot is being said about him and Neymar linking up, but will he able to replicate his Barcelona partnership in PSG is something we should wait and see and not jump to conclusions.

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https://theathletic.com/news/lionel-messi-pre-season-psg-debut/bcIzsVXDl3AU

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Quote from: jakdanyel on August 17, 2021, 03:25:46 PM

The opening match of this week is between Brest and PSG. And it looks like Messi and Neymar both will be starting to play as of this match. Considering this news, all eyes will be on Messi of course. People are really curious about his first performance at a different team. I will watch this very special match also. Maybe Messi can have a little difficulty as it'll be his first match. But I've no doubt that he will adapt to the team in a short time.

Messi has been with Barcelona for a long time, he will have trouble adapting to the new team. There are many differences between the strategy of Barcelona and the strategy of PSG. However, since Messi has played with Neymar before, I believe it will not take long for Messi to adapt to PSG. Moreover, all the players of PSG are experienced enough. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to adapt to such an experienced squad.

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The opening match of this week is between Brest and PSG. And it looks like Messi and Neymar both will be starting to play as of this match. Considering this news, all eyes will be on Messi of course. People are really curious about his first performance at a different team. I will watch this very special match also. Maybe Messi can have a little difficulty as it'll be his first match. But I've no doubt that he will adapt to the team in a short time.

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Quote from: kassex on August 17, 2021, 02:21:49 PM

Mbappe has no motivation to play for PSG. He has great ambitions and wants to be the leader of the team. But with the arrival of Messi, it is clear that this will not be. Therefore, the desire to leave became more. He knows perfectly well that no matter how well he would play, everyone will still praise Messi. In Real Madrid, he can become the main star, the leader around which they will build a team. He is young and can play for a couple of years without trophies, but after that he will definitely take the main prizes with Madrid.

mbappe still has ambitions because he is still young and it's true that if he wants to be a leader and is looking for something different then real madrid might be one of the clubs he must visit.
but mbappe's contract is not finished yet at least he must be professional at least for the next half of the season because i believe mbappe's possibility to move next season is very high

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I don't think there is such an issue, with Messi's arrival it makes Neymar happy, what happens is that rumors about Mbappe are not so good with Messi's arrival that it is rumored that Mbappe will go to Madrid and Ronaldo will join PSG. Also, there were some problems when Neymar was in PSG uniform such as about sexual harassment which made his reputation decline and not about his game. When Neymar failed to bring PSG to the title I thought it was just a lack of support and maybe a bad strategy, but with Messi coming here I believe PSG with them will be something dangerous for all their opponents, let's see.

I still do not think that Mbappe is "that" serious about leaving, I mean he was even before Messi joined up so there is some merit to that gossip, but he didn't so far and I am not entirely sure how Paris would just let someone like him leave.

If he really wants to go, and his contract is over next year, then it would mean that Madrid would get him for free, if that happens than PSG is one of the most stupidest teams out there financially, they are already paying so much to players and then not even make any profit from sale of Mbappe and just let him go for free? That just doesn't make any sense at all, I feel like they would do something about it. Of course, we have seen weirder things happen in world of football before, I am not saying that it is impossible, but it just doesn't make any sense at all and this is why I believe something may happen.

Mbappe has no motivation to play for PSG. He has great ambitions and wants to be the leader of the team. But with the arrival of Messi, it is clear that this will not be. Therefore, the desire to leave became more. He knows perfectly well that no matter how well he would play, everyone will still praise Messi. In Real Madrid, he can become the main star, the leader around which they will build a team. He is young and can play for a couple of years without trophies, but after that he will definitely take the main prizes with Madrid.

Well, if Mbappé wants to be the leader, the best way is Real Madrid, although I remember that when Real Madrid was Ronaldo, Zinedine Zidane, Figo, David Bechkam, all those stars shone in a single team, and they all had their leadership, if they make a A good job at PSG can give very good results, I think that is what they should evaluate, Mbappé, Neymar Jr and Messi will undoubtedly be a great forward if the coach knows how to engage the team.

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Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2021, 01:37:16 AM

I don't think there is such an issue, with Messi's arrival it makes Neymar happy, what happens is that rumors about Mbappe are not so good with Messi's arrival that it is rumored that Mbappe will go to Madrid and Ronaldo will join PSG. Also, there were some problems when Neymar was in PSG uniform such as about sexual harassment which made his reputation decline and not about his game. When Neymar failed to bring PSG to the title I thought it was just a lack of support and maybe a bad strategy, but with Messi coming here I believe PSG with them will be something dangerous for all their opponents, let's see.

I still do not think that Mbappe is "that" serious about leaving, I mean he was even before Messi joined up so there is some merit to that gossip, but he didn't so far and I am not entirely sure how Paris would just let someone like him leave.

If he really wants to go, and his contract is over next year, then it would mean that Madrid would get him for free, if that happens than PSG is one of the most stupidest teams out there financially, they are already paying so much to players and then not even make any profit from sale of Mbappe and just let him go for free? That just doesn't make any sense at all, I feel like they would do something about it. Of course, we have seen weirder things happen in world of football before, I am not saying that it is impossible, but it just doesn't make any sense at all and this is why I believe something may happen.

Mbappe has no motivation to play for PSG. He has great ambitions and wants to be the leader of the team. But with the arrival of Messi, it is clear that this will not be. Therefore, the desire to leave became more. He knows perfectly well that no matter how well he would play, everyone will still praise Messi. In Real Madrid, he can become the main star, the leader around which they will build a team. He is young and can play for a couple of years without trophies, but after that he will definitely take the main prizes with Madrid.

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Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2021, 01:37:16 AM

I don't think there is such an issue, with Messi's arrival it makes Neymar happy, what happens is that rumors about Mbappe are not so good with Messi's arrival that it is rumored that Mbappe will go to Madrid and Ronaldo will join PSG. Also, there were some problems when Neymar was in PSG uniform such as about sexual harassment which made his reputation decline and not about his game. When Neymar failed to bring PSG to the title I thought it was just a lack of support and maybe a bad strategy, but with Messi coming here I believe PSG with them will be something dangerous for all their opponents, let's see.

I still do not think that Mbappe is "that" serious about leaving, I mean he was even before Messi joined up so there is some merit to that gossip, but he didn't so far and I am not entirely sure how Paris would just let someone like him leave.

If he really wants to go, and his contract is over next year, then it would mean that Madrid would get him for free, if that happens than PSG is one of the most stupidest teams out there financially, they are already paying so much to players and then not even make any profit from sale of Mbappe and just let him go for free? That just doesn't make any sense at all, I feel like they would do something about it. Of course, we have seen weirder things happen in world of football before, I am not saying that it is impossible, but it just doesn't make any sense at all and this is why I believe something may happen.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 16, 2021, 01:44:13 PM

Interesting fact is that in the last match PSG conceded 2 goals this means that PSG's defense is not perfect even though it is guarded by great and experienced players
2 goals at local league level so how about at a higher level like Champions League ? Ok, we can reason that new players need adaptation for that we will wait for the next macth

sergio ramos wasn't playing, neymar and messi weren't playing either, I believe that if they were playing the team's performance would be much better on defense because the opponent would be under a lot of pressure and wouldn't have much space to counterattack. but in the end it's just my opinion, we need to see in practice how PSG will perform when messi and sergio ramos play

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 17, 2021, 01:14:59 PM

The main purpose of PSG will be to win the Champions League...

I agree, after all this investment they need to win the Champions League, but they need to improve a lot in defense so they don't suffer as many goals as they have been.

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PSG is not after Ligue 1 because the chances that it will win it is very high, but it has not won champions league, that is what PSG is after now, they need to win champions league. With the present squad it is having now, the players are very talented and PSG is now stronger than before, though we have not seen the outcome result but they will prove us right very soon. The competition for champions league is high but the chance that PSG will win it is very higher than before.
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I think the same, in these moments teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona must be adjusting their belts, because when PSG begins to play it is very likely that they will reach the Champions League final and probably undefeated, due to the way it is made up, I would say that he has the best attack and defense in the world.

These players know each other very well, in addition to the fact that the arrival of Messi to the team has managed to forge very strong ties of friendship, with Sergio Ramos who was at Real Madrid, Mbappe, because he was already a friend of Neymar Jr.

The main purpose of PSG will be to win the Champions League, where they win the Champion it will give Real Madrid and Barcelona a golden lesson for letting go of the goose that lays the golden eggs.

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Marseille were really unfortunate that they couldn't maintain their advantage against Bordeaux. They were leading the game 2-0 until the first 15 minutes of the second half. But Bordeaux made a really great comeback against them and made it 2-2. And I can't say that the match was actually a very enjoyable one. Both teams had 2 shots on target and all of them ended up with a goal which was really interesting. Grin

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Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2021, 01:37:16 AM

I don't think there is such an issue, with Messi's arrival it makes Neymar happy, what happens is that rumors about Mbappe are not so good with Messi's arrival that it is rumored that Mbappe will go to Madrid and Ronaldo will join PSG. Also, there were some problems when Neymar was in PSG uniform such as about sexual harassment which made his reputation decline and not about his game. When Neymar failed to bring PSG to the title I thought it was just a lack of support and maybe a bad strategy, but with Messi coming here I believe PSG with them will be something dangerous for all their opponents, let's see.

Ligeu 1's teams are not so good. PSG will easily win the title of League 1. But in order to win the Champions League title, teamwork is definitely needed among the players. Lots of star players on their team. Now if Mbappe or Messi thinks, he will win the team alone, he will score alone. Then PSG will not be able to win the Champions League title. We saw the Chelsea team last season. There are no skilled striker was in their squad. Their teamwork was good so they were able to win the UCL title.

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