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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on December 28, 2023, 02:00:17 AM

Lyon's 3 consecutive wins got them out of the relegation zone and in my opinion this is quite natural because a team that has strength like Lyon should not be at the bottom of the standings.
In terms of quality, Lyon's team is not too bad this season, it's just that there are several problems in their team that made them slump at the start of the season.
With what is happening currently I believe Lyon will be able to recover slowly and put it back to its rightful place.

That's three consecutive wins that are very impressive even though two of the three wins Lyon got with a very narrow victory.
These three wins have brought Lyon out of the relegation zone but the position is not yet safe because it is still slightly superior to the team below them.
Lyon still needs a lot of wins and also improvements because their defense which is easily penetrated by opponents will be very likely to be exploited by their opponents later when facing a stronger team also their attack is not productive which is why they always have trouble scoring goals and getting bad results, but at least these three consecutive wins raise hopes that there are good things while being developed by their new coach.

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Quote from: Humblevirus on December 27, 2023, 05:10:54 PM

Yes, I fully agree with that paris Saint-Germain is like the superhero team in the French League 1. They have the most money and the strongest players, making them really powerful. Imagine they are like superheroes with the best gear. So, in the French League 1, it's kind of like they are the kings because no other team has as much money or as many strong players. This makes it easier for them keep winning the league. Right now, they're not feeling stressed in the French League 1 because they are more focused on a big mission defeating Real Sociedad in the UCL. It's like they have a big battle ahead with another strong team, and that's where all their attention is. So, winning the league is cool, but they are also aiming for glory in the Champions League.

Of course money is one of the propelling factors that boost the performance of every clubs because if there is no money in the club there bound to be low in performance because there will not be any money to get more new players if the need arises, so just like you said PSG is very lucky to have the privilege they do because there are so many wealthy investors that are ready to push the club to any leave they want and also to get any players they desire, so perhaps that's one of the reasons PSG is doing very well in every of there league especially this French league One and perhaps with there performance on this league there is every chance of them wining the league because among all clubs in this French league PSG is the best team.

So actually with the performance of PSG and the money they have there would come a time they would surely dominate on all the leagues because I believe that they will use all there resources to build the club to the extent that no club can easily win them because of the kind of players they will have.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 28, 2023, 01:41:40 AM

PSG do dominating the league, but not completely dominating like Bayern Munich since Bayern Munich haven't lose since the last decade. PSG, as the strongest club in Ligue 1 is struggling in Champions League.

That's right and there is quite a big difference between PSG and Bayern Munich, even though both of them really dominate their respective leagues. But if you look further, Bayern Munich is much more consistent when playing in the Champions League and it could be said that the two are different when playing in the Champions League based on their experience and quality.

Quote from: Despairo on December 28, 2023, 01:41:40 AM

Bayern Munich on the other hands, become one of biggest contender in Champions League.

Bundesliga isn't a weak league, but Bayern Munich was to strong. While PSG is the strongest club among weak clubs.

Bayern Munich can always be the toughest competitor in the Champions League and even though it is very difficult to reach the championship, when compared to PSG then I can say Bayern Munich will be much better than them. PSG needs to show their best quality when playing in the Champions League and if they want to compete with several other teams then they have to look for players who have great quality and responsibility.

The Bundesliga and Ligue 1 are both competitive, but few clubs can compete with PSG or Bayern Munich because clubs have limited money to recruit the players they need.

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Quote from: JariKriting on December 27, 2023, 06:47:48 PM

PSG has no equal opponent in the French league, so if the coach is not stupid, he will definitely win the French league, PSG's finances are very strong so they can buy any player whose price is expensive though.
PSG in the German league is almost the same as Bayern Munich, the same as PSG almost every season Bayern Munich also always wins the German league.

I don't think currently winning the french league is a problem to PSG because like you rightly stated they appear to be the best and the strongest in the french league currently, they stay at the top of the table with a five points difference from the second position holders which is Nice, and this means it will take PSG loosing three games and Nice winning three straight games aswell to be able be at the top.

PSG's financial strength is no doubt one of the best in the whole of France and as such getting any player regardless of his price bis something they are capable of at almost anytime, PSG has also enjoyed dominance in the Ligue 1 for a very long time and it doesn't seem like they are loosing it anytime soon as almost no team in France currently is able to match their strength or ability in finance or the quad depth, PSG's dream is still at the UCL just like Bayern in the German league like you did stated, PSG is focused on the UCL more because they have almost no challenge with their domestic league.

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Quote from: klidex on December 28, 2023, 12:17:44 AM

Yes, at least at the end of this year Lyon will be out of the relegation zone which makes its supporters feel that Lyon still has hope of returning to winning ways and this season Lyon will not experience relegation from League 1. Lacazete gave Lyon hope in every goal he scored when facing Monaco and Touluse and he has been Lyon hero in the last 2 matches, I hope this will be a motivation for other players to immediately rise from their downturn and start showing good performance for the club they lead.

It seems that Lyon new coach, Pierre Sage, can provide good changes for the club because since he coached Lyon, he has won 3 consecutive win before entering the new years 2024 and managed to get out of the relegation zone. Indeed, being in 15th position cannot be said to be safe because Lyon still has to fight continues to catch up so far and that is not an easy thing, especially for a coach who has to raise the club enthusiasm. I hope that with this winning streak Lyon will soon recovered and be able to compete with top clubs like the previous season.

Lyon's 3 consecutive wins got them out of the relegation zone and in my opinion this is quite natural because a team that has strength like Lyon should not be at the bottom of the standings.
In terms of quality, Lyon's team is not too bad this season, it's just that there are several problems in their team that made them slump at the start of the season.
With what is happening currently I believe Lyon will be able to recover slowly and put it back to its rightful place.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on December 28, 2023, 01:06:45 AM

the different story if psg was getting a new competitor that can play as good as psg. it will make the competition become even more competitive. i would like to see that league one to become even more competitive like serie a or epl. league 1 really needs to have as many strong club as possible to stop the domination of psg like bayern in bundesliga.

There's a big difference between PSG and Bayern Munich.

PSG do dominating the league, but not completely dominating like Bayern Munich since Bayern Munich haven't lose since the last decade. PSG, as the strongest club in Ligue 1 is struggling in Champions League.

Bayern Munich on the other hands, become one of biggest contender in Champions League.

Bundesliga isn't a weak league, but Bayern Munich was to strong. While PSG is the strongest club among weak clubs.

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Quote from: JariKriting on December 27, 2023, 06:47:48 PM

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Paris Saint Germain is the richest club in French League 1 so there is no doubt about the club's financial strength and the strength of its players because Paris Saint Germain has stronger players when compared to other teams in League 1. So as long as there are no other teams that stronger financially and stronger in terms of players, maybe Paris Saint-Germain will always win league 1 and for other teams it will not be easy to break PSG's dominance.
Therefore, there is no big pressure for PSG in League 1 because their current focus is only on beating Real Sociedad in the last sixteen of the UCL.

PSG has no equal opponent in the French league, so if the coach is not stupid, he will definitely win the French league, PSG's finances are very strong so they can buy any player whose price is expensive though.
PSG in the German league is almost the same as Bayern Munich, the same as PSG almost every season Bayern Munich also always wins the German league.

This is the main problem faced by french league. Psg was leading the competition without even a single team that was able competing against it. No doubt that this league is just another farmer league. Psg will be dominating this league may be more than 1 decade like bundesliga which had been dominating by bayern.
There shall be billionaire who can join in the french league then try to acquire the club in league 1.
Having saudi billionaire to acquire a club in french league will be very interesting. i hope that there will be a new investor to join in the league 1. Psg is obviously needs a new competitor. it was only against the weak club. nothing surpirse to see psg was always winning the league.

the different story if psg was getting a new competitor that can play as good as psg. it will make the competition become even more competitive. i would like to see that league one to become even more competitive like serie a or epl. league 1 really needs to have as many strong club as possible to stop the domination of psg like bayern in bundesliga.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 27, 2023, 06:00:23 PM

I think Lyon have given a nice gift to their supporters before entering the New Year. Because they have started to improve finally by winning their last three league games. Doing this was enough to carry them out of the relegation zone as well. The team are still in a danger zone of course but at least this must be some relief for them.

One of those wins were even an away win against Monaco. You know Monaco are the third team in the standings now so this win was an enormous one for Lyon. Lacazette is also in form these days which is great news for the team. With his big help they can really get to safety.

Yes, at least at the end of this year Lyon will be out of the relegation zone which makes its supporters feel that Lyon still has hope of returning to winning ways and this season Lyon will not experience relegation from League 1. Lacazete gave Lyon hope in every goal he scored when facing Monaco and Touluse and he has been Lyon hero in the last 2 matches, I hope this will be a motivation for other players to immediately rise from their downturn and start showing good performance for the club they lead.

It seems that Lyon new coach, Pierre Sage, can provide good changes for the club because since he coached Lyon, he has won 3 consecutive win before entering the new years 2024 and managed to get out of the relegation zone. Indeed, being in 15th position cannot be said to be safe because Lyon still has to fight continues to catch up so far and that is not an easy thing, especially for a coach who has to raise the club enthusiasm. I hope that with this winning streak Lyon will soon recovered and be able to compete with top clubs like the previous season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 27, 2023, 06:00:23 PM

I think Lyon have given a nice gift to their supporters before entering the New Year. Because they have started to improve finally by winning their last three league games. Doing this was enough to carry them out of the relegation zone as well. The team are still in a danger zone of course but at least this must be some relief for them.

Yes, Lyon appeared quite impressive by getting three consecutive wins and this victory was quite surprising because they managed to beat Monaco, which is one of the winning teams in Ligue 1 this season.
But this is not guaranteed to be safe because there is still quite long time and Lyon still has to fight to be better in the future so that they can avoid the relegation zone.
If in the future Lyon experiences decline then they could drop down in the standings.
It just that we don't know what the quality of Lyon game will be in the future, whether it will be stable and consistent or not.

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One of those wins were even an away win against Monaco. You know Monaco are the third team in the standings now so this win was an enormous one for Lyon. Lacazette is also in form these days which is great news for the team. With his big help they can really get to safety.

So, that quite impressive, even though they only had 1 goal lead, they were able to maintain it until the match was over.
I thought Lyon would lose but seeing as the match progressed there were no goals from either of them in the first half until the middle of the second half, many people thought it would end in draw.
But in the 85th minute Jeffinho managed to score the only goal which gave them victory.

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Quote from: FanEagle on December 27, 2023, 10:56:22 PM

I mean there was never really that much pressure on them at all. I think it's clear that we are going to end up with something that would be all that confusing, not really anything that would take all that much time. I hope that it could get to a point where we could make it work somehow, and for that to happen PSG needs to lose, if they do, then the league could become "fun" again.

However, it looks like they won't and they are doing fine and it should not be an issue at all, we are going to see them do as well as we could hope for and it will definitely be fine. PSG will win the league, but looking at their results at UCL groups, they are still not super strong, they are not still at Real or City levels, which is a trouble for them.

I understand what you are saying, if PSG actually made a mistake and lost or didn't get another title in League 1, it would definitely be more interesting because it wouldn't be boring to see the same team dominate league 1.
however, the problem is that currently in League 1, several popular teams are having problems with their consistency or are unstable in terms of performance and if we look in depth, only PSG has a very strong performance and is able to get a bigger chance of getting the title here.

and related to the UCL, I'm not sure PSG can win the title because this team is not experienced enough and there is still a lot to learn and even though they have 11 star players, PSG is difficult to win the title in the UCL. unless they have high commitment to bring in an experienced coach in the UCL and maintain them for several seasons and if that can happen I'm sure PSG will slowly reach the UCL final.

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Quote from: wakier on December 27, 2023, 06:09:17 AM

Paris Saint Germain is the richest club in French League 1 so there is no doubt about the club's financial strength and the strength of its players because Paris Saint Germain has stronger players when compared to other teams in League 1. So as long as there are no other teams that stronger financially and stronger in terms of players, maybe Paris Saint-Germain will always win league 1 and for other teams it will not be easy to break PSG's dominance.
Therefore, there is no big pressure for PSG in League 1 because their current focus is only on beating Real Sociedad in the last sixteen of the UCL.

I mean there was never really that much pressure on them at all. I think it's clear that we are going to end up with something that would be all that confusing, not really anything that would take all that much time. I hope that it could get to a point where we could make it work somehow, and for that to happen PSG needs to lose, if they do, then the league could become "fun" again.

However, it looks like they won't and they are doing fine and it should not be an issue at all, we are going to see them do as well as we could hope for and it will definitely be fine. PSG will win the league, but looking at their results at UCL groups, they are still not super strong, they are not still at Real or City levels, which is a trouble for them.

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Quote from: JariKriting on December 27, 2023, 06:47:48 PM

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Paris Saint Germain is the richest club in French League 1 so there is no doubt about the club's financial strength and the strength of its players because Paris Saint Germain has stronger players when compared to other teams in League 1. So as long as there are no other teams that stronger financially and stronger in terms of players, maybe Paris Saint-Germain will always win league 1 and for other teams it will not be easy to break PSG's dominance.
Therefore, there is no big pressure for PSG in League 1 because their current focus is only on beating Real Sociedad in the last sixteen of the UCL.

PSG has no equal opponent in the French league, so if the coach is not stupid, he will definitely win the French league, PSG's finances are very strong so they can buy any player whose price is expensive though.
PSG in the German league is almost the same as Bayern Munich, the same as PSG almost every season Bayern Munich also always wins the German league.

I thought that this season kinda difference but the fact that if it's still remain the same as PSG is still leading the competition even it was also dominating other clubs. Some clubs were very promising but they were not good as when the season was just starting.
This is the main problem owned by various club about how they were very inconsistent and it gives room for PSG to grow again then lead the league. I see no chance for other club to make it. Since psg has got its chemistry and it's very difficult to beat it.
PSG is far above compared to the other club in term of quality and this is also the main reason why psg is going to win the french league again. The club like nice and monaco unable to compete with PSG caused by they are having trouble with it.
The more I think about it, the less hopeful I become about the new club's prospects of winning the French league, given the strong showing by PSG in the competition. Enrique seems able to help PSG to leave from its problem.

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Quote from: Davian144 on December 27, 2023, 10:54:53 AM

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In an elite tournament like the UCL, every opponent should not be underestimated because all teams will continue to exert their strength when competing there. As it stands now, Real Sociedad may not be a team that can pose a serious threat to PSG, but the team could also be stronger in the UCL because now all teams have had more time to change their playing patterns. Moreover, the match for both of them is still a long time away so it is a little less feasible if judged from now on.

It's indeed unwise to underestimate them based on their current form, because teams can evolve and strengthen their performance in the UCL. Villareal once reached the semi-final in 2006 when people, at the time, barely know their existence. The UCL features some of the best football clubs in the world, and each team has earned its place through rigorous qualification processes. Underestimating any opponent could lead to complacency, and in football, unexpected outcomes are not uncommon.

Real Sociedad may not currently pose a serious threat to PSG, but Their can use 'the underdawg spirit' to refine their playing patterns, address weaknesses, fight for something big with nothing to lose. The temporal factor is significant because it allows teams to adapt, strategize, and possibly strengthen their squads through player development. It cautions against making premature judgments based on current form without considering the potential changes that may occur before the actual match takes place.

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Quote from: Humblevirus on December 27, 2023, 05:10:54 PM

Yes, I fully agree with that paris Saint-Germain is like the superhero team in the French League 1. They have the most money and the strongest players, making them really powerful. Imagine they are like superheroes with the best gear. So, in the French League 1, it's kind of like they are the kings because no other team has as much money or as many strong players. This makes it easier for them keep winning the league. Right now, they're not feeling stressed in the French League 1 because they are more focused on a big mission defeating Real Sociedad in the UCL. It's like they have a big battle ahead with another strong team, and that's where all their attention is. So, winning the league is cool, but they are also aiming for glory in the Champions League.

PSG finances were very strong after Nasser Al-Khelaifi took over PSG and he did not hesitate to bring in many star players that we have seen before such as Neymar and Lionel Messi and even many other star players were part of their team. This season PSG also has a great coach so there is no doubt that they will succeed in becoming champions in Ligue 1.
But in the Champions League, PSG is still quite weak compared to Real Madrid and Manchester City. Well, this season PSG will also fight again to be able to go further in the Champions League because Luis Enrique is quite experienced in the Champions League. I think if they make it past the round of 16 then they will be highly considered as champion candidates this season.

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Quote from: JariKriting on December 27, 2023, 06:47:48 PM

PSG has no equal opponent in the French league, so if the coach is not stupid, he will definitely win the French league, PSG's finances are very strong so they can buy any player whose price is expensive though.
PSG in the German league is almost the same as Bayern Munich, the same as PSG almost every season Bayern Munich also always wins the German league.

haha, barely weeks ago, PSG were struggling in the french league, and now you think they have no equals? I think there are quality teams in the french league, they just do not have quality squad depths to compete for the league and they got weakened as the league progresses.

Will PSG win the league? its not certain yet, they are an inconsistent team that just begin to find rhytm and topped the league barely 6 weeks back. Will it continue?
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Quote from: wakier on December 27, 2023, 06:09:17 AM

Paris Saint Germain is the richest club in French League 1 so there is no doubt about the club's financial strength and the strength of its players because Paris Saint Germain has stronger players when compared to other teams in League 1. So as long as there are no other teams that stronger financially and stronger in terms of players, maybe Paris Saint-Germain will always win league 1 and for other teams it will not be easy to break PSG's dominance.
Therefore, there is no big pressure for PSG in League 1 because their current focus is only on beating Real Sociedad in the last sixteen of the UCL.

PSG has no equal opponent in the French league, so if the coach is not stupid, he will definitely win the French league, PSG's finances are very strong so they can buy any player whose price is expensive though.
PSG in the German league is almost the same as Bayern Munich, the same as PSG almost every season Bayern Munich also always wins the German league.

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I think Lyon have given a nice gift to their supporters before entering the New Year. Because they have started to improve finally by winning their last three league games. Doing this was enough to carry them out of the relegation zone as well. The team are still in a danger zone of course but at least this must be some relief for them.

One of those wins were even an away win against Monaco. You know Monaco are the third team in the standings now so this win was an enormous one for Lyon. Lacazette is also in form these days which is great news for the team. With his big help they can really get to safety.

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Quote from: wakier on December 27, 2023, 06:09:17 AM

Paris Saint Germain is the richest club in French League 1 so there is no doubt about the club's financial strength and the strength of its players because Paris Saint Germain has stronger players when compared to other teams in League 1. So as long as there are no other teams that stronger financially and stronger in terms of players, maybe Paris Saint-Germain will always win league 1 and for other teams it will not be easy to break PSG's dominance.
Therefore, there is no big pressure for PSG in League 1 because their current focus is only on beating Real Sociedad in the last sixteen of the UCL.

Yes, I fully agree with that paris Saint-Germain is like the superhero team in the French League 1. They have the most money and the strongest players, making them really powerful. Imagine they are like superheroes with the best gear. So, in the French League 1, it's kind of like they are the kings because no other team has as much money or as many strong players. This makes it easier for them keep winning the league. Right now, they're not feeling stressed in the French League 1 because they are more focused on a big mission defeating Real Sociedad in the UCL. It's like they have a big battle ahead with another strong team, and that's where all their attention is. So, winning the league is cool, but they are also aiming for glory in the Champions League.

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I can also say that apart from PSG, no other club in Ligue 1 has finances as rich as PSG. This is different from the English or Spanish Leagues where even though there are teams like City and now Newcastle with super rich owners, the other teams also have good financial support. Likewise with La Liga where we see that Madrid is very rich and has built the Los Galacticos squad but other teams also have good financial capabilities.

And for PSG with all the money they have, it is natural that the club owner wants the Champions League title rather than winning several times in Ligue 1 because the Champions League has extraordinary pride for fans and club owners.

Basically, the rich teams also do not always win and anyway, the proof is that the rich teams you mentioned also sometimes lose and even, some of them also experience a decline in performance with bad results or results that are not maximized this moment. Therefore, even though PSG is also a rich team in Ligue 1 but ya, in reality PSG is also still making great efforts to be able to dominate the league again.

After all, at the beginning of this season too, even though PSG is a rich team, but in fact PSG started this season with bad results too. But ya, because PSG has management and a team that has good quality then ya, over time PSG returned to the top of the Ligue 1 standings and these results are certainly a natural result because PSG is a team that has better quality than others teams in Ligue 1.

The very different financial background between PSG and other Ligue 1 contestants creates an unequal gap, that is the reality we see today. So the competitive level of Ligue 1 will automatically be unbalanced, because PSG, with its large budget resources, can build an elite squad according to its wishes. However, PSG, which does not receive intense pressure from competitors at the domestic level, will find it difficult to compete with teams representing more competitive leagues such as the Premier League in other competition like Champions League.

Regarding PSG performance at the start of the season which was somewhat unstable, I think Luis Enrique needs tactical adjustments and an adaptation period. As the season progressed, Enrique managed to stabilize his squad performance. However, for the Champions League competition, as I mentioned at the beginning, PSG has difficulty competing because it comes from Ligue 1.

Money is one of the biggest factors to success in Football. Look at the clubs that you have mentioned above, all of them has a good financial backup. Look at Barcelona, they are a good club with high class but right now their financial situation is dire. They cannot buy a good player right now, barely can buy the players who are free agents. They cannot register them in the La Liga due to wage restriction. So yeah, money plays a huge role in the success.

Newcastle was not performing that well before the Saudi owners bought them and when they poured their money, their performance became so good that they just qualified for Uefa Champions league. So money is a big factor. For the same reason, PSG and other big clubs are doing so well.

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Quote from: hahay on December 27, 2023, 01:14:46 PM

Basically, the rich teams also do not always win and anyway, the proof is that the rich teams you mentioned also sometimes lose and even, some of them also experience a decline in performance with bad results or results that are not maximized this moment. Therefore, even though PSG is also a rich team in Ligue 1 but ya, in reality PSG is also still making great efforts to be able to dominate the league again.

After all, at the beginning of this season too, even though PSG is a rich team, but in fact PSG started this season with bad results too. But ya, because PSG has management and a team that has good quality then ya, over time PSG returned to the top of the Ligue 1 standings and these results are certainly a natural result because PSG is a team that has better quality than others teams in Ligue 1.

For me, the wealth of a club has an influence on the future of a club, but that is not the main thing, but the most important thing is to get a coach who is able to manage all the players well so that they can produce success in every competition.
The fact that PSG has previously had a fairly perfect game with several quality players and even star players helped PSG to achieve success but apparently all of this failed because the coach didn't have much experience.
The success of a club must prioritize the coach and then the money that can bring in quality players as I said before and PSG needs an experienced coach to be able to take the club to a better future.

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