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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 27, 2023, 11:56:43 PM

Quote from: marcous on November 27, 2023, 12:23:38 PM

It's not wrong, if there really wasn't any effort in the transfer window then it would be appropriate to say that Lyon really wanted bad things to happen to themselves. It seems that what you mean is true, I see a difficult match ahead, Lyon will face Lens, the club that once surprisingly beat Arsenal. It is very likely that Lyon will lose again, and Fabio Grosso will extend his bad reputation in his managerial career.

The transfer window is aimed at every moment to strengthen their squad by carrying out various buying and selling of players or signing new players, and this is big opportunity for Lyon to be able to improve their squad and be able to have good development in the future.
They have been under constant pressure so that every match only ends in a draw and also a defeat.
Now they are on the verge of relegation if there are no changes and good developments until this season ends. If they are relegated from Ligue 1 then they will only stay in League 2.

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Quote from: temple on November 27, 2023, 11:31:15 AM

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I intended to make an expression about how dramatic Lyon's fate is this season, it doesn't mean "comfortable" here they didn't try, and this is just an inverted expression. Of course no club wants degradation, because after all that is not in everyone's dictionary.

When team like Lyon is relegated, they can play more easily because they will only play with League 2 teams who might be very easy to beat.
But when they can win League 2 and get promoted back to Ligue 1, won't that just be the same as Lyon still failing there.

But here, I still have confidence that Lyon can rise from its downfall and get out of the degradations zone. If later they will also be relegated then what can be done, but what is most unfortunate is that the reputation they have built in Ligue 1 will be tarnished, and they will no longer be considered an elite club. Club officials must spend a budget to improve the squad, not just replace the coach and hope that a turning point in performance can occur instantly.

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Maybe the degradation zone is comfortable for them, so they are reluctant to leave there. Even though I understand that Lyon is one of the elite clubs in Ligue 1, what they are showing now is really damaging the reputation of the club that has been built previously. The change of coach has not been successful, and most recently they lost badly at home 2-0, which is really embarrassing.

I just think they can only target this season to get out of the degradation zone, no longer talking about the UCL zone, Europa League or something like that, because that looks impossible for them. I read the history of Lyon under the leadership of Jean Michel Aulas, it impressed me, it seems like the change in ownership has not yet shown signs that they will become title contenders. the january transfer market should be a solution to rebuild the club, as well as boost their performance to be a little better.

It's not about comfort but Lyon are confused they can't get out not not wanting to get out.
Their problems are too complex which makes their performance chaotic in the end. This made them unable to improve and had a bad season.
There is still plenty of time for them to make the situation better, but it won't be easy. They still have a lot to do, especially to improve their defense which is still very bad.
Talking about Lyon and the Champions League is ridiculous because in the end no matter how good they are, they've never even touched the Champions League before and the highest they've been is the conference league. The hope for Lyon is not to go to the Champions League but to return to being a troublesome money team and enliven the competition instead of being in the relegation zone like now.

It can be understood that Lyon still has the opportunity to improve the situation in the future. Ligue 1 still has 21 matches ahead, and there are 5 matches before the January transfer window opens again. This means that if they are active in the transfer window, there are still 17 remaining matches which are a field of points that they have to collect. I hope they can improve, but despite all that if they have a lot of budget, then this problem is quite easy to solve.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 28, 2023, 10:02:36 AM

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Quote from: Distraction on November 27, 2023, 10:42:07 AM

I had doubts about this Lyon - Lille match also. Because I thought maybe that win over Rennes would fire up Lyon players a little bit to get at least one point.
But Lille finished the match in the first half already unlike my expectation.

Lille is expected to win although they were playing away. Lyon is very weak this season and even though they woke up a bit and collected 4 points in the previous two rounds, they ended up losing and they will continue to lose probably vs Lens next and Marseille later. They have to win vs Toulouse before losing vs Monaco in the games following the previous ones. It is a hard situation they are dealing with and relegation probability will remain high if they will not improve the team..

Winning this game against Lyon was not a lot for Lille and I think couldn't have the good performance I was expecting to see from Lille. Lille was usually racing at top side of the French League, I think Lyon is a team that helps the other team to get some points even if they are not playing well enough to win the match.

The Lyon team has suffered a terrible decline this season. The team is at the bottom of the table. It was already predicted that Lille would win against Lyon. And a pretty easy win for Lille. Lille won the away match 2-0. Lyon's only target is to get out of the relegation zone. As Lyon are performing badly, it is not certain whether the team will be able to get out of the relegation zone. Out of 12 matches they have won only one match. And this team is at the last position of the points table. Lyon are still 5 points behind the 15th-placed team in the table. It will not be possible for Lyon to reduce this 5 point gap with such a poor performance.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 28, 2023, 10:02:36 AM

Winning this game against Lyon was not a lot for Lille and I think couldn't have the good performance I was expecting to see from Lille. Lille was usually racing at top side of the French League, I think Lyon is a team that helps the other team to get some points even if they are not playing well enough to win the match.

Lyon is currently at their worse than they were when compared to their performance and form last season, they were much more better although they didn't finish top but some where around the middle and we would expect they turned out better this season but sadly they didn't.

They are even relegation prone as their weakness has continually been an avenue exploited by others to always steal points from them. Lilie isn't a team that could have won Lyon with was if Lyon were to be in their form just like they were last season but now Lyon is turning into a small team in the Ligue I this season. They have won only one match this season and had a few draw then lost the remaining which has caused them the last position on the league table.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 28, 2023, 09:53:33 AM

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Luis Enrique’s impact on this PSG side hasn’t really been felt but we can see the signs. Yes, PSG sits top the Ligue 1 table but that doesn’t mean they’re much of a threat because the team still looks shaky, Luis and his boys will have a huge test against Newcastle who handed them their first defeat in the UCL, pSG Needs this win so as to secure a spot in the Round of 16. If they fail on that, yes the criticisms will come but there’ll also be loss of lots of their players who would lose Faith in this team and try out some other clubs in Europe so as to European success.

In the Ligue, they’re just 1 point away from Nice. Yes, PSG Could win the league but we must not write off Nice who has gotten better investors and could cause an upset and pull surprises at any point, So I think Luis should really fasten his seat belt and get to work else he’ll be surprised that he’s made PSG a costly laughing stock.

The depth of the squad that PSG has is the dream of all coaches to become their manager. Currently, Luis Enrique is lucky because he has the best squad under his control. Personally, I have no doubts about the quality he has to be able to make the Ligue 1 trophy theirs when the season ends, but the only challenge for Enrique is to reach the UCL final and win the trophy, that is his main task this season and that is what the PSG management is for. appointed him as head coach. Some of the players who were brought in last summer are not yet optimal, I think this is the factor that makes them still look unstable.

Nice are PSG direct challengers this season in Ligue 1, and have not suffered a single defeat in 13 weeks. However, we certainly still remember PSG scenario in taking over the top of the standings. Nice drawing a lot with their opponents, based on this I have no hesitation in saying that Enrique squad is ultimately like guaranteed to win the trophy at the end of the season. The real challenge currently in front of us is Newcastle, a match that actually needs to get all the attention from all elements of the club, because it will determine their fate in the round of 16.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 28, 2023, 09:53:33 AM

Luis Enrique’s impact on this PSG side hasn’t really been felt but we can see the signs. Yes, PSG sits top the Ligue 1 table but that doesn’t mean they’re much of a threat because the team still looks shaky, Luis and his boys will have a huge test against Newcastle who handed them their first defeat in the UCL, pSG Needs this win so as to secure a spot in the Round of 16. If they fail on that, yes the criticisms will come but there’ll also be loss of lots of their players who would lose Faith in this team and try out some other clubs in Europe so as to European success.

In the Ligue, they’re just 1 point away from Nice. Yes, PSG Could win the league but we must not write off Nice who has gotten better investors and could cause an upset and pull surprises at any point, So I think Luis should really fasten his seat belt and get to work else he’ll be surprised that he’s made PSG a costly laughing stock.

Every new coach needs time to adapt to the changes that have occurred quite a lot in the PSG squad. I think it is very natural that their performance declined a little at the start of the season, but now Luis Enrique has slowly succeeded in making PSG's performance much more developed and there is better progress throughout. his week which I think is a positive thing.

Nice and Monaco do look stronger this season and they are trying to create fierce competition with PSG in the race for the title in the Ligue this season but I see realistically that the strength of these two teams is still below PSG so if PSG doesn't make mistakes like they did in At the start of the season it certainly won't be difficult for PSG to defend the title.

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Quote from: snipie on November 27, 2023, 11:10:35 AM

Quote from: Distraction on November 27, 2023, 10:42:07 AM

I had doubts about this Lyon - Lille match also. Because I thought maybe that win over Rennes would fire up Lyon players a little bit to get at least one point.

But Lille finished the match in the first half already unlike my expectation.

Lille is expected to win although they were playing away. Lyon is very weak this season and even though they woke up a bit and collected 4 points in the previous two rounds, they ended up losing and they will continue to lose probably vs Lens next and Marseille later. They have to win vs Toulouse before losing vs Monaco in the games following the previous ones. It is a hard situation they are dealing with and relegation probability will remain high if they will not improve the team..

Winning this game against Lyon was not a lot for Lille and I think couldn't have the good performance I was expecting to see from Lille. Lille was usually racing at top side of the French League, I think Lyon is a team that helps the other team to get some points even if they are not playing well enough to win the match.

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Quote from: klidex on November 28, 2023, 04:05:06 AM

Luis Enrique's presence at PSG has indeed had a good impact PSG continues to show good performance and continues to get consecutive wins in League 1. His first season at PSG was fairly smooth and I think Luis Enrique will bring PSG back to winning the League 1 title.

Tomorrow PSG must fight again in the Champions League in order to qualify for the next round, Newcastle is the club that beat PSG in the first meeting so this time PSG must really fight hard and avenge their previous defeat.
I'm sure PSG can win this match, which is in I am worried that if PSG does not qualify for the 16th round of the Champions League, it will receive criticism from all parties, especially PSG fans and Luis Enrique is not immune from this mistake as manager.

A difference of 1 point means a lot to PSG. With a difference of 1 point, PSG is now leading the standings after fighting very hard waiting for Nice to slip from their position and finally now PSG is back to where it should be. Mbappe, Dembele, Goncalo Ramos, Randal Kolo Muani are the best players that PSG currently has. I'm sure they will give their best for their club this season.

Luis Enrique’s impact on this PSG side hasn’t really been felt but we can see the signs. Yes, PSG sits top the Ligue 1 table but that doesn’t mean they’re much of a threat because the team still looks shaky, Luis and his boys will have a huge test against Newcastle who handed them their first defeat in the UCL, pSG Needs this win so as to secure a spot in the Round of 16. If they fail on that, yes the criticisms will come but there’ll also be loss of lots of their players who would lose Faith in this team and try out some other clubs in Europe so as to European success.

In the Ligue, they’re just 1 point away from Nice. Yes, PSG Could win the league but we must not write off Nice who has gotten better investors and could cause an upset and pull surprises at any point, So I think Luis should really fasten his seat belt and get to work else he’ll be surprised that he’s made PSG a costly laughing stock.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 27, 2023, 12:14:11 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on November 27, 2023, 11:37:18 AM

There are 5 points between the team right above the relegation zone and Lyon at the moment. Lyon have a missing game though but even that is against Marseille away. How many points could Lyon get in that game you think? I think it would be zero. The way they are playing just isn't credible at all unfortunately.

I won't be surprised if this journey ends up with being relegated from the Ligue 1 honestly. For now they are a hopeless case. I don't even know whether there would be any manager who can save them from this situation despite everything now.

Checking the results Lyon got so far in this season, maybe some people are thinking Lyon is not a strong team and they are always in the and situation as we see from them these days, but Lyon was an strong team in French and they were racing for the title in this league.
But I think if they don't make a serious decision about Lyon they will fall forever.

Lyon only had glory in the past but for this season and several previous seasons, the fact is that Lyon can no longer compete well in the top zone of the Ligue 1 standings. So ya, I think at this moment we can no longer say that Lyon is a big team, because in reality Lyon quality become bad now. Yes indeed, I also really regret Lyon results this season, because it doesn't seem like there is a good chance for Lyon to at least get out of the relegation zone. Only having 7 points from the 12 matches that have been played so far this season, is clearly a very bad result so that Lyon is at the bottom of the Ligue 1 standings and it is difficult for Lyon to be able to free themselves from this red zone.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on November 28, 2023, 04:03:47 AM

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Things like this are natural because however facing Lyon now who is in pain then surely 3 points can be achieved even though it is a little complicated because Lyon's resistance in this match is also quite good but I think Lille's victory in this match is something that is quite certain so there is no need to have doubts in it.

With the current situation Lille is back to enliven the top standings but not Lyon, which even though their momentum is quite good but with the defeat in this match then indirectly they have to start over from scratch because their rhythm is still out of order.
They play well on the field but the problem is that their defense is bad which has a lot of improvement in it.

Maybe the degradation zone is comfortable for them, so they are reluctant to leave there. Even though I understand that Lyon is one of the elite clubs in Ligue 1, what they are showing now is really damaging the reputation of the club that has been built previously. The change of coach has not been successful, and most recently they lost badly at home 2-0, which is really embarrassing.

I just think they can only target this season to get out of the degradation zone, no longer talking about the UCL zone, Europa League or something like that, because that looks impossible for them. I read the history of Lyon under the leadership of Jean Michel Aulas, it impressed me, it seems like the change in ownership has not yet shown signs that they will become title contenders. the january transfer market should be a solution to rebuild the club, as well as boost their performance to be a little better.

It's not about comfort but Lyon are confused they can't get out not not wanting to get out.
Their problems are too complex which makes their performance chaotic in the end. This made them unable to improve and had a bad season.
There is still plenty of time for them to make the situation better, but it won't be easy. They still have a lot to do, especially to improve their defense which is still very bad.
Talking about Lyon and the Champions League is ridiculous because in the end no matter how good they are, they've never even touched the Champions League before and the highest they've been is the conference league. The hope for Lyon is not to go to the Champions League but to return to being a troublesome money team and enliven the competition instead of being in the relegation zone like now.

True, Lyon's performance until now still has many gaps. Poor defense, their attack line also still does not have a good final finish makes this even more complicated for Lyon.
But indeed if at the end they can improve this then I think there will be no problem for Lyon to get out of the relegation zone now.
Their chances are still there especially now that we are still at the beginning of the middle of the season so the chance is still great and indeed the focus at this time only has to get out of the relegation zone because regardless of anything the relegation zone must Lyon avoid now.

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Quote from: ancafe on November 27, 2023, 11:32:24 PM

Quote from: QueenVera on November 27, 2023, 03:05:09 AM

Enrique's approach to building PSG in the absence of Messi and Neymar was notable as they started off finely with beautiful results this season and week after week, they keep proving their supremacy over teams, no one saw the 5goals netted against Monaco coming but it was a beautiful scoreline, they played with much more confidence than imagined and they ensured that they didn't take any chance with the opposing side, the weekend's win is a good charge to the UCL face off and very much likely, they're expected to win their remaining two group matches.

They've been able to build a solid form that'll give them an upper hand against teams and their victory is anticipated, Mbappe is in his best form for the team, so is Dembele and every other member of the squad, they can still be threats to other teams and they will be, I believe they would qualify to the next round in the UCL as well as maintaining the top position in their league before the winter window.

That is what many fans hope for because the presence of Luis Enrique as coach must be able to improve their performance for the better and that is not only in Legue 1 but must also be able to compete in the Champions League. I don't have big targets for PSG this season in the Champions League because maybe Luis Enrique has only been there for one season and he also needs several other players to make the team much stronger and more solid. Qualifying for the next round is enough because the competition in this group is very competitive so there is a lot of competition in it.

PSG already top the standings by one point above Nice and a big win against Monaco makes them even stronger. Mbappe, Dembele and the other players are quite unified when playing, now Luis Enrique can focus on facing Newcastle in the Champions League and victory may be the only thing they have to achieve in order to maintain their chances of qualifying for the next round.

Luis Enrique's presence at PSG has indeed had a good impact PSG continues to show good performance and continues to get consecutive wins in League 1. His first season at PSG was fairly smooth and I think Luis Enrique will bring PSG back to winning the League 1 title.

Tomorrow PSG must fight again in the Champions League in order to qualify for the next round, Newcastle is the club that beat PSG in the first meeting so this time PSG must really fight hard and avenge their previous defeat.
I'm sure PSG can win this match, which is in I am worried that if PSG does not qualify for the 16th round of the Champions League, it will receive criticism from all parties, especially PSG fans and Luis Enrique is not immune from this mistake as manager.

A difference of 1 point means a lot to PSG. With a difference of 1 point, PSG is now leading the standings after fighting very hard waiting for Nice to slip from their position and finally now PSG is back to where it should be. Mbappe, Dembele, Goncalo Ramos, Randal Kolo Muani are the best players that PSG currently has. I'm sure they will give their best for their club this season.

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Quote from: marcous on November 27, 2023, 10:36:42 AM

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Things like this are natural because however facing Lyon now who is in pain then surely 3 points can be achieved even though it is a little complicated because Lyon's resistance in this match is also quite good but I think Lille's victory in this match is something that is quite certain so there is no need to have doubts in it.

With the current situation Lille is back to enliven the top standings but not Lyon, which even though their momentum is quite good but with the defeat in this match then indirectly they have to start over from scratch because their rhythm is still out of order.
They play well on the field but the problem is that their defense is bad which has a lot of improvement in it.

Maybe the degradation zone is comfortable for them, so they are reluctant to leave there. Even though I understand that Lyon is one of the elite clubs in Ligue 1, what they are showing now is really damaging the reputation of the club that has been built previously. The change of coach has not been successful, and most recently they lost badly at home 2-0, which is really embarrassing.

I just think they can only target this season to get out of the degradation zone, no longer talking about the UCL zone, Europa League or something like that, because that looks impossible for them. I read the history of Lyon under the leadership of Jean Michel Aulas, it impressed me, it seems like the change in ownership has not yet shown signs that they will become title contenders. the january transfer market should be a solution to rebuild the club, as well as boost their performance to be a little better.

It's not about comfort but Lyon are confused they can't get out not not wanting to get out.
Their problems are too complex which makes their performance chaotic in the end. This made them unable to improve and had a bad season.
There is still plenty of time for them to make the situation better, but it won't be easy. They still have a lot to do, especially to improve their defense which is still very bad.
Talking about Lyon and the Champions League is ridiculous because in the end no matter how good they are, they've never even touched the Champions League before and the highest they've been is the conference league. The hope for Lyon is not to go to the Champions League but to return to being a troublesome money team and enliven the competition instead of being in the relegation zone like now.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 27, 2023, 10:08:44 AM

The Lyon vs Lille match was a tense one for me because it was the deciding factor in my multibet bet and with such large odds there will always be worries about the outcome of the match.

However, luckily Lille can always provide consistent performances in this match and I apologize to Lyon because they are still the worst until now. Even though last night Lyon also performed quite well and they had several opportunities to score goals, but unfortunately their players' finishing was so bad that they couldn't score even one goal. A 0-2 win was very important for Lille to be able to shift Reims from the top 4 and they did it this week after silencing Lyon away from home. Well, this is another multibet win for me and I'm so happy that Lille always gives me the advantage.

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Lillie is quite in control of the game and in fact, Lyon can be said to not be a difficult opponent for Lillie so when they win they should, but unfortunately, because Lillie often gets draws their points are quite far behind PSG and Nice, but they have a chance of overtaking Monaco if continue to appear consistent, because there is only a difference of 1 point.
After successfully getting their first win against Rennes, Lyon again failed to produce points, without progress in their game it is very likely that until the end of the season, Lyon will remain in their current position and be relegated.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 27, 2023, 12:14:11 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on November 27, 2023, 11:37:18 AM

There are 5 points between the team right above the relegation zone and Lyon at the moment. Lyon have a missing game though but even that is against Marseille away. How many points could Lyon get in that game you think? I think it would be zero. The way they are playing just isn't credible at all unfortunately.

I won't be surprised if this journey ends up with being relegated from the Ligue 1 honestly. For now they are a hopeless case. I don't even know whether there would be any manager who can save them from this situation despite everything now.

Checking the results Lyon got so far in this season, maybe some people are thinking Lyon is not a strong team and they are always in the and situation as we see from them these days, but Lyon was an strong team in French and they were racing for the title in this league.
But I think if they don't make a serious decision about Lyon they will fall forever.

what I know is that since 1 decade Lyon has been in the league 1 standings, this season has had a very bad start to the season whereas in the previous few seasons Lyon achievements were always satisfactory and could almost compete for the top of the standings but I dont know what made Lyon so bad and we all have thoughts the same thing that this team needs the right manager and on the one hand if this is going to continue this bad thing until february it looks like Lyon really has to be relegated from league 1.

It is very sad to see a team that previously had a good name but is now experiencing a bad period without being able to improve its performance as if there is no hope anymore and maybe this bad thing needs to be questioned by the coach.

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Quote from: Distraction on November 27, 2023, 10:42:07 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on November 27, 2023, 10:08:44 AM

The Lyon vs Lille match was a tense one for me because it was the deciding factor in my multibet bet and with such large odds there will always be worries about the outcome of the match.

However, luckily Lille can always provide consistent performances in this match and I apologize to Lyon because they are still the worst until now. Even though last night Lyon also performed quite well and they had several opportunities to score goals, but unfortunately their players' finishing was so bad that they couldn't score even one goal. A 0-2 win was very important for Lille to be able to shift Reims from the top 4 and they did it this week after silencing Lyon away from home. Well, this is another multibet win for me and I'm so happy that Lille always gives me the advantage.

I agree with your first sentence. It always makes one worried to bet on this much high odds especially the remaining bets have much lower odds. For example I predicted Real Madrid to defeat Barcelona in the last El Clasico but I couldn't be that brave to bet on it. Grin

Congrats on your huge win by the way because the total odds are really mouth-watering. Grin

I had doubts about this Lyon - Lille match also. Because I thought maybe that win over Rennes would fire up Lyon players a little bit to get at least one point.

But Lille finished the match in the first half already unlike my expectation.

I've been in situations like this many times and what makes me angry is when there is one match that cancels all my bets. I feel like screaming as loud as I can and that is something we cannot avoid. Sad

Actually, I also think the same thing as you because previously Lyon managed to win against Rennes and there is a possibility that they will win again quite big in the match against Lille. But the problem here is that after I watched the performance of the Lyon players, they were very bad regarding finishing (I said at the beginning of the post) and that's something they have to improve if they want to win. I didn't even expect Lille to finish in the first half and actually I was quite hoping they could add another goal in the second half, but unfortunately they couldn't do it. But at least I can breathe a sigh of relief after that.

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Quote from: marcous on November 27, 2023, 12:23:38 PM

It's not wrong, if there really wasn't any effort in the transfer window then it would be appropriate to say that Lyon really wanted bad things to happen to themselves. It seems that what you mean is true, I see a difficult match ahead, Lyon will face Lens, the club that once surprisingly beat Arsenal. It is very likely that Lyon will lose again, and Fabio Grosso will extend his bad reputation in his managerial career.

The transfer window is aimed at every moment to strengthen their squad by carrying out various buying and selling of players or signing new players, and this is big opportunity for Lyon to be able to improve their squad and be able to have good development in the future.
They have been under constant pressure so that every match only ends in a draw and also a defeat.
Now they are on the verge of relegation if there are no changes and good developments until this season ends. If they are relegated from Ligue 1 then they will only stay in League 2.

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Quote from: temple on November 27, 2023, 11:31:15 AM

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I intended to make an expression about how dramatic Lyon's fate is this season, it doesn't mean "comfortable" here they didn't try, and this is just an inverted expression. Of course no club wants degradation, because after all that is not in everyone's dictionary.

When team like Lyon is relegated, they can play more easily because they will only play with League 2 teams who might be very easy to beat.
But when they can win League 2 and get promoted back to Ligue 1, won't that just be the same as Lyon still failing there.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 27, 2023, 03:05:09 AM

Enrique's approach to building PSG in the absence of Messi and Neymar was notable as they started off finely with beautiful results this season and week after week, they keep proving their supremacy over teams, no one saw the 5goals netted against Monaco coming but it was a beautiful scoreline, they played with much more confidence than imagined and they ensured that they didn't take any chance with the opposing side, the weekend's win is a good charge to the UCL face off and very much likely, they're expected to win their remaining two group matches.

They've been able to build a solid form that'll give them an upper hand against teams and their victory is anticipated, Mbappe is in his best form for the team, so is Dembele and every other member of the squad, they can still be threats to other teams and they will be, I believe they would qualify to the next round in the UCL as well as maintaining the top position in their league before the winter window.

That is what many fans hope for because the presence of Luis Enrique as coach must be able to improve their performance for the better and that is not only in Legue 1 but must also be able to compete in the Champions League. I don't have big targets for PSG this season in the Champions League because maybe Luis Enrique has only been there for one season and he also needs several other players to make the team much stronger and more solid. Qualifying for the next round is enough because the competition in this group is very competitive so there is a lot of competition in it.

PSG already top the standings by one point above Nice and a big win against Monaco makes them even stronger. Mbappe, Dembele and the other players are quite unified when playing, now Luis Enrique can focus on facing Newcastle in the Champions League and victory may be the only thing they have to achieve in order to maintain their chances of qualifying for the next round.

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Quote from: Mame89 on November 27, 2023, 12:40:15 PM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on November 27, 2023, 10:48:33 AM

From the start I had sympathy for Lyon's performance which was not like the big Ligue 1 teams that I know. Let's assume there are still about 22 games left this season. With its current position at the bottom of the standings with 7 points, it can still change and get out of there if the club takes quick steps to resolve various obstacles.
It's not good if a club as big as Lyon is relegated. Fabio Grosso may not be a good choice to save Lyon's position.

It is still possible that Lyon will get another disappointing result in the next match if Fabio Grosso is still serving as coach.
If Lyon had to accept the fact that they would be relegated, I would call it a desirable condition and they made absolutely no effort to make their fans' wishes come true.

Lyon is really down this season, it could be said that Lyon is no longer a big team in Ligue 1. This season is a nightmare for Lyon before Christmas, and relegation could happen if they don't make real changes in the next 22 matches. Fabio Grosso is not a good choice as it seems, nothing has changed, he should restore the enthusiasm and mentality of the players at least but this is also not visible.

Honestly, this match was the only game that broke my bet. I think the score will be more than 2.5 in this match, Lyon is really useless and they can't even score a goal in this match.

It looks like Lyon will turn into a mediocre club in Ligue 1, their performance has not improved even though there has been a change of coach. Fabio Grosso, who succeeded Laurent Blanc, is said to have failed to bring the club down the right path, we never know to what extent they will continue to decline like this. In 12 matches, Lyon has only won 1 time, the remaining 4 draws and 7 defeats. Apart from that, they have conceded 21 goals, only losing to Nantes (23) and Lorient (24), and have only managed to score 9 goals.

Lyon needs to immediately improve themselves while there is still time in the next 22 (including one postponed match against Marseille) matches. Fabio Grosso is the figure most responsible for taking control now, I am sure he can bring Lyon away from the relegation zone in the future. In Italy he succeeded in bringing Frosinone promotion to Serie A, now this skill needs to be applied to his current club.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on November 27, 2023, 10:48:33 AM

From the start I had sympathy for Lyon's performance which was not like the big Ligue 1 teams that I know. Let's assume there are still about 22 games left this season. With its current position at the bottom of the standings with 7 points, it can still change and get out of there if the club takes quick steps to resolve various obstacles.
It's not good if a club as big as Lyon is relegated. Fabio Grosso may not be a good choice to save Lyon's position.

It is still possible that Lyon will get another disappointing result in the next match if Fabio Grosso is still serving as coach.
If Lyon had to accept the fact that they would be relegated, I would call it a desirable condition and they made absolutely no effort to make their fans' wishes come true.

Lyon is really down this season, it could be said that Lyon is no longer a big team in Ligue 1. This season is a nightmare for Lyon before Christmas, and relegation could happen if they don't make real changes in the next 22 matches. Fabio Grosso is not a good choice as it seems, nothing has changed, he should restore the enthusiasm and mentality of the players at least but this is also not visible.

Honestly, this match was the only game that broke my bet. I think the score will be more than 2.5 in this match, Lyon is really useless and they can't even score a goal in this match.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on November 27, 2023, 10:48:33 AM

From the start I had sympathy for Lyon's performance which was not like the big Ligue 1 teams that I know. Let's assume there are still about 22 games left this season. With its current position at the bottom of the standings with 7 points, it can still change and get out of there if the club takes quick steps to resolve various obstacles.
It's not good if a club as big as Lyon is relegated. Fabio Grosso may not be a good choice to save Lyon's position.

It is still possible that Lyon will get another disappointing result in the next match if Fabio Grosso is still serving as coach.
If Lyon had to accept the fact that they would be relegated, I would call it a desirable condition and they made absolutely no effort to make their fans' wishes come true.

It's not wrong, if there really wasn't any effort in the transfer window then it would be appropriate to say that Lyon really wanted bad things to happen to themselves. It seems that what you mean is true, I see a difficult match ahead, Lyon will face Lens, the club that once surprisingly beat Arsenal. It is very likely that Lyon will lose again, and Fabio Grosso will extend his bad reputation in his managerial career.

Quote from: temple on November 27, 2023, 11:31:15 AM

I doubt that any zone when it comes to relegation is in any way comfortable, as if any team would say it is cool to be trailing around in a zone that might send you to the next lower level of the next domestic years competition.

PSG is still this one team, but it should be noticed that winning Ligue 1 does not mean it is the same as winning Premier League.

I intended to make an expression about how dramatic Lyon's fate is this season, it doesn't mean "comfortable" here they didn't try, and this is just an inverted expression. Of course no club wants degradation, because after all that is not in everyone's dictionary.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 27, 2023, 11:37:18 AM

There are 5 points between the team right above the relegation zone and Lyon at the moment. Lyon have a missing game though but even that is against Marseille away. How many points could Lyon get in that game you think? I think it would be zero. The way they are playing just isn't credible at all unfortunately.

I won't be surprised if this journey ends up with being relegated from the Ligue 1 honestly. For now they are a hopeless case. I don't even know whether there would be any manager who can save them from this situation despite everything now.

Checking the results Lyon got so far in this season, maybe some people are thinking Lyon is not a strong team and they are always in the and situation as we see from them these days, but Lyon was an strong team in French and they were racing for the title in this league.
But I think if they don't make a serious decision about Lyon they will fall forever.

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