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  with this condition, I not blame anyone, but I am just a little wondering why I should rely on Mbappe when my teammates can be great players and scorers like Mbappe. but for some reason these teammates also rely on Mbappe during every match and very rarely try to find their own opportunities to try to perform like Mbappe and all this Enrique should be able to understand this situation and provide direction that can pressure the minds of other players to show their talents without having to relying on just one player.
Lets see what will happen if PSG loses this flagship player which makes me believe that their performance will experience a very visible decline.
Well I understand your point, however Kylian Mbappe has participated once again in his teams success, but this time around he had the support of this team  mates to claim the victory against Borussia Dortmund, in the Champions league opener against today, the played in Unism and didn't depend much on Mbappe to win the match
 
 Mbappe was the one who scored the opening goal of the game then in the 58th minute of the match his team from Morocco Achraf Hakimi scored another to seal the winning, PSG were suprisenly dominated the match and had more possession of the game and they would had even scored more goals but misses plenty of chances, they had about 17 shots on target but just 3 were on side and they managed to convert two goals from this 3 shots on target.
I really didn't expect that PSG could win absolutely against Dortmund with a score of 2 - 0 and of course many people thought PSG would have difficulty in this match so the final result was predicted to be a draw but PSG actually put up quite a good fight and dominated the game this really extraordinary for Mbappe and his fellow PSG players.

Seeing PSG game in the UCL group stage match is very different from PSG when playing in the French League where they found it difficult to get a good win in every match.
But it not surprising because there are several teams that are not too focused on the various leagues they are participating in but are focusing or preparing thoroughly for the UCL.

17 shots towards Dortmund goal was quite a dominating attack because Dortmund itself was able to shoot at goal only once and even then it didn't produce results.
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From all indications, it appears that PSG is not as strong as it used to be before now. Especially last season that they had Mbappe, Neymar and Messi.  It is very obvious that PSG is not a contender this season. They will not go far into the competition.
The fine contenders of this season's champions league is Manchester City and Real Madrid and maybe Bayern Munich and Arsenal.
PSG should ensure that Mbappe leaves next season and they should rebuild their squad.
PSG can not win the UCL title this season, they're yet to make things really right for the club. Keep repeating their mistakes over and over again, If PSG wants to win the trophy, the president should allow Kylian Mbappe exits Parc des Princes stadium, Nasser Al-Khelaifi would be able to channel his energy on these new players. Manchester city are dominant when it comes to Ligue One clubs, the citizens easily defeat them in UCL games. There's absolutely no fierce competition in this France league, more reason Paris Saint-Germain are incredible in their domestic league games and unable to reach crucial stages in UCL football, afterall they would be able to set things right for the club.
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So far I'm not satisfied with what I have seen from PSG. They are even worse than last season and I believe they have a chance to lose even the Ligue 1 title to a different team. Because there is just no proper team effort now. You can't expect to be successful by relying on only Mbappe's skills. He still continues to score many goals but it just doesn't work that way.

It is the same with Tottenham and Kane situation in the last season. You know how amazing Kane was with scoring goals. But despite his scoring 30 goals Tottenham were still horrible.

Honestly PSG's future is likely to be similar to that also and just as Kane did Mbappe will leave too.

You are satisfied with what you saw from PSG because all you saw was just in French Leageu not in the Chmapnmios Leageue.
We know PSG is a strong team in the French league because of the better and more investment they had and more players they bought for their teams while other teams in this league cannot do that.
But if this team plays with another team at the same level, they can't do anything in the Chmapnios Leageu even after all the money they invested.

From all indications, it appears that PSG is not as strong as it used to be before now. Especially last season that they had Mbappe, Neymar and Messi.  It is very obvious that PSG is not a contender this season. They will not go far into the competition.
The fine contenders of this season's champions league is Manchester City and Real Madrid and maybe Bayern Munich and Arsenal.
PSG should ensure that Mbappe leaves next season and they should rebuild their squad.
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So far I'm not satisfied with what I have seen from PSG. They are even worse than last season and I believe they have a chance to lose even the Ligue 1 title to a different team. Because there is just no proper team effort now. You can't expect to be successful by relying on only Mbappe's skills. He still continues to score many goals but it just doesn't work that way.

It is the same with Tottenham and Kane situation in the last season. You know how amazing Kane was with scoring goals. But despite his scoring 30 goals Tottenham were still horrible.

Honestly PSG's future is likely to be similar to that also and just as Kane did Mbappe will leave too.

You are satisfied with what you saw from PSG because all you saw was just in French Leageu not in the Chmapnmios Leageue.
We know PSG is a strong team in the French league because of the better and more investment they had and more players they bought for their teams while other teams in this league cannot do that.
But if this team plays with another team at the same level, they can't do anything in the Chmapnios Leageu even after all the money they invested.
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  with this condition, I not blame anyone, but I am just a little wondering why I should rely on Mbappe when my teammates can be great players and scorers like Mbappe. but for some reason these teammates also rely on Mbappe during every match and very rarely try to find their own opportunities to try to perform like Mbappe and all this Enrique should be able to understand this situation and provide direction that can pressure the minds of other players to show their talents without having to relying on just one player.
Lets see what will happen if PSG loses this flagship player which makes me believe that their performance will experience a very visible decline.
Well I understand your point, however Kylian Mbappe has participated once again in his teams success, but this time around he had the support of this team  mates to claim the victory against Borussia Dortmund, in the Champions league opener against today, the played in Unism and didn't depend much on Mbappe to win the match
 
 Mbappe was the one who scored the opening goal of the game then in the 58th minute of the match his team from Morocco Achraf Hakimi scored another to seal the winning, PSG were suprisenly dominated the match and had more possession of the game and they would had even scored more goals but misses plenty of chances, they had about 17 shots on target but just 3 were on side and they managed to convert two goals from this 3 shots on target.
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There isn't a proper team performance right now. Without Mbappe they would be just desperate and wouldn't be much different than an average team as for their game. We saw this at the beginning of the season when Mbappe didn't play in a couple of games much. They were in control in terms of ball possession maybe but they weren't able to score.

PSG are doing poorly in defense, and without Mbappe everything will be just as bad in attack. At the moment, Mbappe this is their chance to play well in the Champions League, but with a team like this I doubt they will achieve a worthy result, and they may not even manage to win Ligue 1. Mbappe's potential far exceeds PSG's current capabilities, so I doubt that he changed his mind about leaving the team. PSG should have let him go this summer.

Even with Mbappe in the squad PSG this season, but PSG performance at this moment is very bad. Moreover, if Mbappe really leaves and or cannot be played maybe due to injury later, then PSG is only a mediocre team that will not be able to win titles and cannot compete in the upper zone in the standings. So yes, I personally think that PSG this season really cannot be expected both in the Champions League and also in Ligue 1. Because anyway, PSG no longer has good performance and form this season. So of course, with bad factors like that, then no one will be able to encourage PSG to get good results in every match this season.
Everyone knows that PSG is very dependent on Mbappe. Especially I think PSG's dependence on Mbappe has increased since legendary players Messi and Neymar left the club. Although many have seen the departure of Messi and Neymar with good eyes but i consider it is negatively. What is deserve that if any famous player exist in the team, the team can move forward due to the confidence and that influence among the other teammates. PSG's performance is not good at the current stage. If Mbappe is out of the squad for any reason, especially if something like an injury happens, then PSG will not be able to go far this season.
with this condition, I not blame anyone, but I am just a little wondering why I should rely on Mbappe when my teammates can be great players and scorers like Mbappe. but for some reason these teammates also rely on Mbappe during every match and very rarely try to find their own opportunities to try to perform like Mbappe and all this Enrique should be able to understand this situation and provide direction that can pressure the minds of other players to show their talents without having to relying on just one player.
Lets see what will happen if PSG loses this flagship player which makes me believe that their performance will experience a very visible decline.
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So far I'm not satisfied with what I have seen from PSG. They are even worse than last season and I believe they have a chance to lose even the Ligue 1 title to a different team. Because there is just no proper team effort now. You can't expect to be successful by relying on only Mbappe's skills. He still continues to score many goals but it just doesn't work that way.

It is the same with Tottenham and Kane situation in the last season. You know how amazing Kane was with scoring goals. But despite his scoring 30 goals Tottenham were still horrible.

Honestly PSG's future is likely to be similar to that also and just as Kane did Mbappe will leave too.

I don't see a lot of pressure in terms of the game and I think defensively they are still weak, they struggle in big games and they can't expect Mbappe to perform well in every game.

Like Kane, Mbappe can score a lot of goals but the team needs to do something. I agree with the Kane example but PSG are still the biggest contenders for the league title. PSG are currently playing Dortmund in the Champions League and I wonder how the defense I criticized will do in this match.
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So far I'm not satisfied with what I have seen from PSG. They are even worse than last season and I believe they have a chance to lose even the Ligue 1 title to a different team. Because there is just no proper team effort now. You can't expect to be successful by relying on only Mbappe's skills. He still continues to score many goals but it just doesn't work that way.

It is the same with Tottenham and Kane situation in the last season. You know how amazing Kane was with scoring goals. But despite his scoring 30 goals Tottenham were still horrible.

Honestly PSG's future is likely to be similar to that also and just as Kane did Mbappe will leave too.
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Even though Lacazette has returned to play with Lyon, unfortunately he failed to score a goal for Lyon's victory. Fabio Grosso doesn't need to be criticized at the moment because he has just started managing Lyon and I hope he can find the right strategy for his players. Now the training intensity must be increased so that the players' mentality can bounce back because the bad results obtained in the previous few matches have quite affected the players' self-confidence. However, everything needs a process and at least Lyon won't lose again.
Lacazatte is too old and slow to be able to score that easily if you ask me, it just doesn't feel like it is going to be that much possible for people to end up with a good result that easily, it ends up being a little bit of a trouble for him to score with this talent level he is in right now, he needs to be a lot more athletic or basically Lyon has to find another striker.

Finding someone talented for cheap is hard, and Lacazette was the cheapest option that was the best they could get, but then maybe it's time to look for a young talent instead of experienced one. Lyon hasn't been good ever since that many titles in a row period, no idea what they did with all that money, probably bad transfers, but they are just plain bad at this point.
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Mbappe will leave in any case, even if PSG achieves the treble. PSG is a swamp for a player who aspires to the Ballon d'Or and to go down in history on equal footing with other greats. With all due respect, but the championships of the Netherlands, Portugal, etc. are not suitable for this.
By the way, as I heard, Mbappe returned part of the loyalty payment to PSG, so we can assume that the issue is resolved and he will play honestly until the end of the season and then go to Real Madrid for free.
I think so too, Mbappe will not stay longer for PSG, he will stay until his contract ends and join another team next season. PSG has no way of keeping Mbappe longer because the player wants to try new challenges in the coming season. This season, PSG seems to be having difficulty showing their aggressive play like they did in previous seasons. Other players still cannot be relied on to be the difference in the final result of each match because only Mbappe is capable of doing that. I think if Mbappe leaves PSG performance will automatically experience a drastic decline like what they experienced in their first match of the season. However, Nasser Al-Khelaifi will try hard to persuade Mbappe to stay with PSG, even though it is quite difficult considering that Real Madrid is the team that Mbappe wants for his next career.

It is far from a fact that PSG will play worse when Mbappe leaves, firstly, they are now assembling a rather promising team, and secondly, they will definitely buy someone else next summer. By the way, look at Tottenham - last season with Kane they took 8th place, but this season they have changed and are currently on a completely different pase of accumulating points.
I don’t like PSG, so I’m dissatisfied with the fact that they started to develop in the right direction, I would be happy if Messi stayed at the club plus they bought another retired star.

I think there two ways to view this when Mbappe leaves. One is that you are absolutely right with the example of Tottenham and obviously a team is able to compensate for Kane's departure. If a team closes the gap in a collective way, individual performances don't weigh too heavy on the total outcome of the team's performance. But I think there is also this little element of out of this world extra class that a team could be missing in really close games when they wish for this one guy to ignite the rocket, go for it and score. This is something that Mbappe can certainly do while Kane cannot. Kane lives off of collective brilliance whereas Mbappe can have his moments when the rest of the team has a bad day. But of course there is no guarantee that they will be worse without Mbappe in terms of results. Manchester City has no Mbappe either, but they have Mbappe-like players but in a different realm, like De Bruyne as a midfielder.
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Everyone knows that PSG is very dependent on Mbappe. Especially I think PSG's dependence on Mbappe has increased since legendary players Messi and Neymar left the club. Although many have seen the departure of Messi and Neymar with good eyes but i consider it is negatively. What is deserve that if any famous player exist in the team, the team can move forward due to the confidence and that influence among the other teammates. PSG's performance is not good at the current stage. If Mbappe is out of the squad for any reason, especially if something like an injury happens, then PSG will not be able to go far this season.

No one can deny that Mbappe is one of the great stars today. To be honest, I don't often watch PSG matches at the moment.  However, in football there are eleven players. one star player, will not be able to lift a team to achieve what they want to achieve. Well, I can't confirm whether Enrique really only depends on Mbappe. Actually, it shouldn't be like that, so there must be cooperation between other players. However, because Mbappe is a player who has more talent, it may seem as if Enrique is very dependent on PSG.

Currently, PSG has Dembele even though his performance has not shown his true abilities. There is Assensio, who in his two matches appeared impressive as a center forward. Randal Kolo Moani, it looks like he will be able to develop slowly. Goncalo Ramos is not a ready-made striker who is ready to become Paris Saint-Germain's goal machine. Kang-in Lee is a talented player who can play in various positions. Manuel Urgate, he can be MC or DM. Zaire-Emery is now being given more opportunities by Enrique even though he is still very young. back line, there are Achraf Hakimi, Marquinhos, Milan Skriniar, Lucas Hernadez.

Well, IMO, this team is quite ideal. At least, in the Ligue 1 competition. The problem now is how Enrique has to implement his system so that it works according to his wishes. just wait, gradually they should start to find the rhythm of their game.
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I thought yesterday would be Lyon's first win at home against Le Havre but it seems that this is still quite difficult to realize. Lyon should be able to win this match, especially since the opponent is only a promoted team this season. Even though Lacazette appeared again to strengthen Lyon in this match, unfortunately he couldn't score a single goal. It seems that Fabio Grosso as Lyon's new coach has not been able to change the results the club wants and it looks like he will still need quite a long time to bring this team to its first win. Lyon's second draw in this match means they can only sit depressed in the relegation zone.

But in fact, in that match Fabio Grosso was not on the field to become Lyon's head coach. Because after all, the head coach in the match was Jean-Francois Vulliez, and maybe Jean-Francois Vulliez was only appointed for the match and or only appointed temporarily. So yes, with the draw that Lyon got in yesterday's match againts Le Havre, basically we can't blame Grosso, because in fact Grosso still hasn't coached or led Lyon in the match. But for now, it seems that Grosso is already in Lyon and thus, Fabio Grosso is likely to lead Lyon in the next match when Lyon plays away against Brest.
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I thought yesterday would be Lyon's first win at home against Le Havre but it seems that this is still quite difficult to realize. Lyon should be able to win this match, especially since the opponent is only a promoted team this season. Even though Lacazette appeared again to strengthen Lyon in this match, unfortunately he couldn't score a single goal. It seems that Fabio Grosso as Lyon's new coach has not been able to change the results the club wants and it looks like he will still need quite a long time to bring this team to its first win. Lyon's second draw in this match means they can only sit depressed in the relegation zone.
There's no progress happened with club. I wonder what solution will be taken by lyon's management. It's really hurt to see this club keep miss more and more points. There's no act taken by the club.
It has also lens which is also having worst performance than lyon at this moment. It will be very interesting to see lyon and lens to get out from the relegation zone. The chance becomes even lower caused by both of clubs still miss full points.
I can't even describe how bad the performance is from lyon and lens. Do their management prevent them from winning the game?  Cheesy
Really weird performances from both of clubs.
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Mbappe will leave in any case, even if PSG achieves the treble. PSG is a swamp for a player who aspires to the Ballon d'Or and to go down in history on equal footing with other greats. With all due respect, but the championships of the Netherlands, Portugal, etc. are not suitable for this.
By the way, as I heard, Mbappe returned part of the loyalty payment to PSG, so we can assume that the issue is resolved and he will play honestly until the end of the season and then go to Real Madrid for free.
I think so too, Mbappe will not stay longer for PSG, he will stay until his contract ends and join another team next season. PSG has no way of keeping Mbappe longer because the player wants to try new challenges in the coming season. This season, PSG seems to be having difficulty showing their aggressive play like they did in previous seasons. Other players still cannot be relied on to be the difference in the final result of each match because only Mbappe is capable of doing that. I think if Mbappe leaves PSG performance will automatically experience a drastic decline like what they experienced in their first match of the season. However, Nasser Al-Khelaifi will try hard to persuade Mbappe to stay with PSG, even though it is quite difficult considering that Real Madrid is the team that Mbappe wants for his next career.

It is far from a fact that PSG will play worse when Mbappe leaves, firstly, they are now assembling a rather promising team, and secondly, they will definitely buy someone else next summer. By the way, look at Tottenham - last season with Kane they took 8th place, but this season they have changed and are currently on a completely different pase of accumulating points.
I don’t like PSG, so I’m dissatisfied with the fact that they started to develop in the right direction, I would be happy if Messi stayed at the club plus they bought another retired star.
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I thought yesterday would be Lyon's first win at home against Le Havre but it seems that this is still quite difficult to realize. Lyon should be able to win this match, especially since the opponent is only a promoted team this season. Even though Lacazette appeared again to strengthen Lyon in this match, unfortunately he couldn't score a single goal. It seems that Fabio Grosso as Lyon's new coach has not been able to change the results the club wants and it looks like he will still need quite a long time to bring this team to its first win. Lyon's second draw in this match means they can only sit depressed in the relegation zone.
I think that since changing coaches, Fabio Grosso has been able to make Lyon recover, but it seems like Lyon has not shown any sign of progress at his club.
Fabio Grosso need time to improve Lyon performance. Its not easy and it's a tough task for Fabio Grosso whether he deserves to be at this club.
Luckily yesterday match was a draw because if Lyon conceded a goal I could assume that Fabio Grosso men would not be able to show their performance well at this club
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Even though Lacazette has returned to play with Lyon, unfortunately he failed to score a goal for Lyon's victory. Fabio Grosso doesn't need to be criticized at the moment because he has just started managing Lyon and I hope he can find the right strategy for his players. Now the training intensity must be increased so that the players' mentality can bounce back because the bad results obtained in the previous few matches have quite affected the players' self-confidence. However, everything needs a process and at least Lyon won't lose again.
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Lyon was so stupid as a foodball club. Earned only 2 points for 5 matches is a horrible result for lyon. Lyon will be battling for the relegation zone this time. There's no chance for lyon to compete at the top without getting many winstreak.
Lyon's level has been downgrading so much to the mediocre club this time. The club plays so slow.
The club needs to work on that about how to solve its problem. I don't even care so much what's happening the scene but lyon needs to leave from the relegation zone or it will go to the lower competition next season.
Not only Lyon but also Lens in downgrade performance depend their consistency last season, Lens have very poor performance than Lyon with one points earned than Lyon have got 2 points. Actually have three Ligue 1 teams until matchday 5 can't winning one match yet from Lyon, Clermont Foot and Lens where their position remaining one points left. Lyon manager Laurent Blanc have been sacked from his position after several bad performance and failed to give first three points for Lyon.  But still not get good result when new Fabio Grosso become new manager for Lyon and last match have draw from promotion team Le Havre.

Lyon and Lens have recovery and back to the top performance if want get chance back to the top standings place, regelation zone is not their position looking how impressive performance specially for Lens who finish on runner up standings last season.
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Everyone knows that PSG is very dependent on Mbappe. Especially I think PSG's dependence on Mbappe has increased since legendary players Messi and Neymar left the club. Although many have seen the departure of Messi and Neymar with good eyes but i consider it is negatively. What is deserve that if any famous player exist in the team, the team can move forward due to the confidence and that influence among the other teammates. PSG's performance is not good at the current stage. If Mbappe is out of the squad for any reason, especially if something like an injury happens, then PSG will not be able to go far this season.
I tgink they're beginning to depende on him too much and it's not really helping because there would be much pressure on him and he won't be able to deliver them alone in all match especially against very tough opponets, they've got a squad filled with young, vibrant and talented players, so they need to start working together as a team to get better results instead of depending on one player to succeed.
 
 It could even cause them the trophy this season if they don't act fast, cause the more points they drop the more their chances of defending the league title depreciates, and it would be so bad so the team and managers career for PSG to lose the Ligue 1 title under the managerial role of a good coach like Luis Enrique, therefore the manager has a lot of work to do so as not to destroy his good reputation with a poor record at PSG.
I think PSG may be without a cup this season. They used to have no serious competitors in Ligue 1, but now they are in fifth place in the standings. That is, they have already shown at the beginning of the season that they are weak now. Maybe in the winter break they can improve the team, but for now they are weaker than their competitors.
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When Messi, Neymar and Mbappe were all together in PSG the strength of the team was undoubtedly formidable as they could stand any team in the french league, with these three player in the team then, they had the best front line in Ligue 1, their convertions were excellent with matching assist and every match was epic with good number of goals.
Those players are guarantee for sexy football and many goals, winnings for PSG against clubs in Ligue 1 but they are problems of PSG when playing in Champions League. Because in Champions League, they need more proactively defense and those players failed to provide it for the team.

Attacking is good but without proactively defensive contributions, those players create a lot of problems for PSG's midfielders and defenders. Without proactively defense, they are more vulnerable to counter attacks from opponents. In Ligue 1, it is not big issue because French clubs are not strong enough to exploit it and beat PSG.

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The effects of the departure of two of these three players on the team cannot be overly emphasised as it's evident and obvious with every game as dependency and pressure has been moved to the only one of this player left, a typical example cam be seen in their match against Nice where the lost, all goals were scored by mbappe, the team showed a weak moral until mbappe's first goal.
PSG did not buy big star players to replace Messi and Neymar. Only Mbappe is not enough for their attacking system and in this season, so far Mbappe is feeling that he is nothing if a club is not strong as a team.

It is also great chance for Mbappe to sit back, think deeply about his role in a club. I hope he will realize that in football, winning as a team is important than stunning performance from a single player.
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I thought yesterday would be Lyon's first win at home against Le Havre but it seems that this is still quite difficult to realize. Lyon should be able to win this match, especially since the opponent is only a promoted team this season. Even though Lacazette appeared again to strengthen Lyon in this match, unfortunately he couldn't score a single goal. It seems that Fabio Grosso as Lyon's new coach has not been able to change the results the club wants and it looks like he will still need quite a long time to bring this team to its first win. Lyon's second draw in this match means they can only sit depressed in the relegation zone.
I think that since changing coaches, Fabio Grosso has been able to make Lyon recover, but it seems like Lyon has not shown any sign of progress at his club.
Fabio Grosso need time to improve Lyon performance. Its not easy and it's a tough task for Fabio Grosso whether he deserves to be at this club.
Luckily yesterday match was a draw because if Lyon conceded a goal I could assume that Fabio Grosso men would not be able to show their performance well at this club
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Everyone knows that PSG is very dependent on Mbappe. Especially I think PSG's dependence on Mbappe has increased since legendary players Messi and Neymar left the club. Although many have seen the departure of Messi and Neymar with good eyes but i consider it is negatively. What is deserve that if any famous player exist in the team, the team can move forward due to the confidence and that influence among the other teammates. PSG's performance is not good at the current stage. If Mbappe is out of the squad for any reason, especially if something like an injury happens, then PSG will not be able to go far this season.
When Messi, Neymar and Mbappe were all together in PSG the strength of the team was undoubtedly formidable as they could stand any team in the french league, with these three player in the team then, they had the best front line in Ligue 1, their convertions were excellent with matching assist and every match was epic with good number of goals.

The effects of the departure of two of these three players on the team cannot be overly emphasised as it's evident and obvious with every game as dependency and pressure has been moved to the only one of this player left, a typical example cam be seen in their match against Nice where the lost, all goals were scored by mbappe, the team showed a weak moral until mbappe's first goal.

Obviously the dependency on this player(mbappe) is clear and I think PSG should work on reducing it as it may have a great effect on them in future matches especially in champion's league where they will be facing tougher teams. No doubts they have a fair midfield but in the absence of mbappe their finishing will be very poor and in extreme cases the may not be able to secure a goal as seen in the early games of the season where he was absent, I expected the coach to have foreseen this early enough to get replacements for the players who left.
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