French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 796.

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Quote from: sokani on July 26, 2023, 11:07:24 AM

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If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

This is not true. It's just so sad that Mbappe wants to leave but PSG is one club that many players would want to play for because they have the money and players are also certain of winning some domestic titles. The french giant is scouting on a lot of players among which is Manchester United target Rasmus Hojlund. Harry Kane, Dusan Vlahovic, Victor Osimhen are also being linked as possible replacement. Also, don't forget they have Mario Icardi who spent last season on loan at Turkey and his 23 goals helped the Turkish side Galatasaray to reclaim the league's title. PSG has money and if there's money there's a lot of options.

PSG still has a number of other names in the striker position to replace Mbappe if he officially leaves although not comparable, I think the cohesiveness in the squad will be felt more. PSG players no longer feel that they are being treated unequally by management, because Mbappe has received a lot of special treatment from the club.

With his departure it is possible that Luis Enrique squad will become more solid, because they will play as a club not as individuals. In this way the journey to achieve ambitions will be realized more easily, Mbappe sales proceeds can be used to bring in other strikers and PSG can get them very easily.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 26, 2023, 10:14:58 AM

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Quote from: Yurkov on July 26, 2023, 04:25:16 AM

If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

It's too early to judge whether or not PSG's attack line is weak at the moment because in general PSG are still trying to get some players for the line they need. Besides, next season hasn't started yet, so it wouldn't be so accurate if I had to judge it now, even when Mbappe was around, PSG couldn't do much in the Champions League last season, except for only Ligue 1, where PSG was still the strongest to win. So let's see how PSG will fare next season.

I don't think that the attacking line of Paris Saint Germaine is anywhere close the word "weak" even if Kylian Mbappe leaves at the club this summer transfer window and that's because of the quality players in the squad.
An football attacking line that consists of Neymar, Mauro Icardi and the just signed Marco Asensio shouldn't be tagged "weak" in any way because so attacking trio is capable of destroying any club defense on their day. PSG without Mbappe might not be as good as they're used to but they'll certainly be competitive enough to even win the UEFA Champions League trophy

Just can't imagine how bad PSG would once Neymar and Mbappe leave the club. Fans worried that their departure might lead to a downfall, but that may not be happen. PSG is known for having a good supply of money, which allows them to recruitment some top talent. Fact that the club existed before these star players arrived, and it will continue to exist after they leave. Since they haven't won the Champions League during their time there, it doesn't mean the club solely dependent on them for success. They can still be competitive in the competition even without Neymar and Mbappe. Anyway, they must maintain a healthy environment in the squad. Because if players are unhappy and forced to stay against their will, their performance may suffer, and the team won't get the best out of them. So, it's essential for the club to handle these situations wisely.

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Quote from: Yurkov on July 26, 2023, 04:25:16 AM

If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

This is not true. It's just so sad that Mbappe wants to leave but PSG is one club that many players would want to play for because they have the money and players are also certain of winning some domestic titles. The french giant is scouting on a lot of players among which is Manchester United target Rasmus Hojlund. Harry Kane, Dusan Vlahovic, Victor Osimhen are also being linked as possible replacement. Also, don't forget they have Mario Icardi who spent last season on loan at Turkey and his 23 goals helped the Turkish side Galatasaray to reclaim the league's title. PSG has money and if there's money there's a lot of options.

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Quote from: wmaurik on July 26, 2023, 09:34:27 AM

It's too early to judge whether or not PSG's attack line is weak at the moment because in general PSG are still trying to get some players for the line they need. Besides, next season hasn't started yet, so it wouldn't be so accurate if I had to judge it now, even when Mbappe was around, PSG couldn't do much in the Champions League last season, except for only Ligue 1, where PSG was still the strongest to win. So let's see how PSG will fare next season.

PSG has not been showing good progress in improving its team. The result against al nassr has told us if the club is now degraded. PSG is far above al nassr last season but it's likely that if the gone of some important players have been degrading the performance from PSG at this moment.
By comparing the period when Messi was still with the club to the time he joined InterMiami as a new player, we can clearly see how significant the differences are. The attacking line become even horrible since there was no mbappe in the club.

I can even imagine how bad PSG once neymar and mbappe leave from the club. Enrique has not been successfully reassembling the team. He needs to work even harder. Im feeling so skeptical about PSG's performance in UCL next season.

The progress that happened with PSG was not so good at this moment. Even though PSG was dominating the match, but not even a goal being made by this club. PSG has been also buying so many players.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 26, 2023, 10:14:58 AM

Quote from: wmaurik on July 26, 2023, 09:34:27 AM

Quote from: Yurkov on July 26, 2023, 04:25:16 AM

If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

It's too early to judge whether or not PSG's attack line is weak at the moment because in general PSG are still trying to get some players for the line they need. Besides, next season hasn't started yet, so it wouldn't be so accurate if I had to judge it now, even when Mbappe was around, PSG couldn't do much in the Champions League last season, except for only Ligue 1, where PSG was still the strongest to win. So let's see how PSG will fare next season.

I don't think that the attacking line of Paris Saint Germaine is anywhere close the word "weak" even if Kylian Mbappe leaves at the club this summer transfer window and that's because of the quality players in the squad.
An football attacking line that consists of Neymar, Mauro Icardi and the just signed Marco Asensio shouldn't be tagged "weak" in any way because so attacking trio is capable of destroying any club defense on their day. PSG without Mbappe might not be as good as they're used to but they'll certainly be competitive enough to even win the UEFA Champions League trophy

You are right but there is a lot of judgment based on the hypothesis that these players are healthy and play and as we found out several times in the past Neymar is frequently injured and misses lots of important games. Their attacking line isn't "weak", I agree with that for sure. But considering the whole squad they have much less quality if Mbappe also leaves. I can't see how they could win the Champions League with or without Mbappe with this team. It will be enough for Ligue 1 I guess, but that's it. I think players also feel a different motivation when they play in the Premier League. They never woke up in their lives and thought "damn I need to win Ligue 1 in my career".

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Quote from: wmaurik on July 26, 2023, 09:34:27 AM

Quote from: Yurkov on July 26, 2023, 04:25:16 AM

If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

It's too early to judge whether or not PSG's attack line is weak at the moment because in general PSG are still trying to get some players for the line they need. Besides, next season hasn't started yet, so it wouldn't be so accurate if I had to judge it now, even when Mbappe was around, PSG couldn't do much in the Champions League last season, except for only Ligue 1, where PSG was still the strongest to win. So let's see how PSG will fare next season.

I don't think that the attacking line of Paris Saint Germaine is anywhere close the word "weak" even if Kylian Mbappe leaves at the club this summer transfer window and that's because of the quality players in the squad.
An football attacking line that consists of Neymar, Mauro Icardi and the just signed Marco Asensio shouldn't be tagged "weak" in any way because so attacking trio is capable of destroying any club defense on their day. PSG without Mbappe might not be as good as they're used to but they'll certainly be competitive enough to even win the UEFA Champions League trophy

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Quote from: Yurkov on July 26, 2023, 04:25:16 AM

amount of money he can make at Al Hilal.
If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

No player is irreplaceable. Mbappe might be a very talented striker but there are still some strikers that can help PSG achieve its Champions League goals. Players like Victor Osimhen might not be skillful like Kylian but they can make an impact on the team. Victor is also young, pacy, and strong. Mbappe has been pampered in PSG for so long and now he has become a spoilt player.

Quote from: Litzki1990 on July 26, 2023, 05:03:00 AM

Mbappé won't extend his contract with PSC even though he stayed at psg because his contract with PSG expired but now that he has received a big offer from the Saudi League, he might move to Saudi Arabia for a year for sure. The offer made to Mbappe benefits both Mbappe and the club and guarantees Mbappe will join Real Madrid as a free agent next season Al Hilal so I think it's a great opportunity for Mbappe to earn money if he plays in the Saudi league for a year I don't think there will be any negative impact on performance. It would be the biggest transfer in football history if Mbappe joins Al Hilal. Mbappe's transfer is at the heart of the transfer market.

Al Hilal will not be foolish to give Mbappe a one-year contract. It is a waste of funds because he will walk away without any financial benefit to the Saudi team. The club will also want to make money from his future move to another club. If Al Hilal feel that Mbappe will bring the rave, investors, and fans that they need in one year, then they can go ahead and splash such money on his transfer. But from what I am seeing, a one-year deal with Al Hilal will not be beneficial to the Saudi outlet.

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Quote from: Yurkov on July 26, 2023, 04:25:16 AM

If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

It's too early to judge whether or not PSG's attack line is weak at the moment because in general PSG are still trying to get some players for the line they need. Besides, next season hasn't started yet, so it wouldn't be so accurate if I had to judge it now, even when Mbappe was around, PSG couldn't do much in the Champions League last season, except for only Ligue 1, where PSG was still the strongest to win. So let's see how PSG will fare next season.

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Quote from: bering on July 26, 2023, 06:50:19 AM

However so far Marseille has got 4 new players including Aubameyang, Ismaila Sarr, Renan Lodi and Geoffrey Kondogbia from Atletico Madrid as free transfer status but seems they won't stop to buying players because Marseille manager want at least 1 more player for striker position and Marseille currently still working on to restore their fitness condition and they will starting their pre season match against Bundesliga team Leverkusen on August 2

Before facing Leverkusen, they will have a friendly match with RKC Waalwijk. The Dutch club will not be a big problem for Marseille. But this match doesn't seem too interesting except for the limited test of tier 2 players like other clubs who are doing pre-season. Back to Marseille's forecast for next season, where the last 2 seasons have finished in 3rd and 2nd positions. The arrival of players like Aubameyang, Ismaila, and Geoffrey should be able to give more encouragement. Even though the top of the standings has always been dominated by PSG, it is possible that seeing PSG starting to reshuffle players can be used as a reference for Marseille in taking advantage of this unstable situation. Especially if Mbappe officially leaves, it will make it easier for Marseille to win the top of the standings.

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Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2023, 02:31:39 PM

I don't think Al-Hilal is doing that just to give their fans to watch quality football, but also to help PSG not to get a big loss. Because anyway, at this moment basically Mbappe is still willing to play at PSG but Mbappe also does not want to extend the contract. With such a situation, Al Hilal appeared who could pay big money in exchange for Mbappe to join Real Madrid in the transfer next summer. That means, Al Hilal seems to just want to help PSG, Mbappe and Real Madrid smooth out the move later.

It seems that this is more a business that PSG and Al-Hilal are trying to do because the two club owners have a close relationship. PSG must take action so that they are not disadvantaged by Mbappe's move next season because of a free transfer, moreover the player has been offered a new contract with a slightly longer duration, but he does not want to extend the contract until now. Mbappe has participated in pre-season with PSG, but his name was not included when PSG headed to Asia to continue the next pre-season.

So rumors arose that Mbappe was no longer included in Luis Enrique's plans for next season and Mbappe was allowed not to play for the next season. If the plans expected by PSG did not go well and Mbappe continues to insist on his stance, thus this would affect the quality of Mbappe's game to continue to maintain his performance.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 26, 2023, 06:28:06 AM

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PSG are stupid to include the term for loyalty fee but they set an unreasonable date to activate it.

PSG must sell Kylian Mbappe by August 1 or they owe him €60m as alarming contract clause revealed after €300m Al-Hilal bid.

So now we understand why PSG gave Mbappe an ultimatum till 31 July only but Mbappe is smart enough to know he won't lose anything if staying in PSG till 1 August. After that day, he will automatically get €60m from PSG and still be able to leave the club to Al Ahli.

I can not sympathize with PSG on the term, they can include the loyalty term in their contract with Mbappe but why not activate it on 30 or 31 August or 1 September? The loyalty term should be in place to make sure that the player can not move anywhere after that day and he will have to play for PSG after a closing day of summer transfer window.

You wouldn't be certain about this term as what I read from different channels varies, so I will not conclude on a certain term for now even if yours might be the actual one and it's from goal[dot]com. What I could conclude upon is the agreement of Al-hilal's €300m bid for Mbappe, but still depends on whether he will agree or not. Presently, PSG is still persuading him to take the offer, but I believe that Mbappe is not ready to leave Europe yet as he is still very young. SPL is better for holding players that had already made a name for themselves, not a young player like Mbappe that has though made a name but needs more and is still very young.

No wonder PSG has rekindled their interest in Victor Osimhen as they are ready to splash huge cash on him, the club and the owner Aurelio De Laurentiis just for the guy.

@EarnOnVictor before we judge PSG let’s remember the panic situation that they were in when Real Madrid had come close to stealing Mbappe from them and in the end they had to give him a record deal to stay and if this is true then I believe that Mbappe’s team planned this move very well. Also if I had to pick a side to support I’ll support PSG because while Mbappe is free to chose his next destination he could have handled this situation in a much better way.

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It's been a long time since we heard of OGC Nice signing a new player in the transfer market and this time they have managed to reach an agreement for Atalanta's Jeremie Boga. The cost is also fairly reasonable around 18 million euros for this 26 year old player and he plays as an attacking midfielder which makes OGC Nice's front line even sharper. Last season Jeremie Boga was actually not that good in terms of statistics in all competitions and he only contributed 2 goals and 5 assists. It looks like coach Didier Digard has his own way of raising Jeremie Boga's performance later and this purchase is expected to have a significant impact on the team.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1683895190514278403

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Marseille has been confirmed that they gets Ismaila Sarr from Watford and they have to spend 13 millions as transfer fee and as a winger Ismaila Sarr was quite productive that during defend Watford he was scores 34 goals total and now Marseille has Ismaila Sarr and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang from Chelsea for forward lines and seems they were already to anticipate to losing Alexis Sanchez because these players can be considered as the replacement of him

However so far Marseille has got 4 new players including Aubameyang, Ismaila Sarr, Renan Lodi and Geoffrey Kondogbia from Atletico Madrid as free transfer status but seems they won't stop to buying players because Marseille manager want at least 1 more player for striker position and Marseille currently still working on to restore their fitness condition and they will starting their pre season match against Bundesliga team Leverkusen on August 2

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on July 25, 2023, 09:01:31 PM

PSG are stupid to include the term for loyalty fee but they set an unreasonable date to activate it.

PSG must sell Kylian Mbappe by August 1 or they owe him €60m as alarming contract clause revealed after €300m Al-Hilal bid.

So now we understand why PSG gave Mbappe an ultimatum till 31 July only but Mbappe is smart enough to know he won't lose anything if staying in PSG till 1 August. After that day, he will automatically get €60m from PSG and still be able to leave the club to Al Ahli.

I can not sympathize with PSG on the term, they can include the loyalty term in their contract with Mbappe but why not activate it on 30 or 31 August or 1 September? The loyalty term should be in place to make sure that the player can not move anywhere after that day and he will have to play for PSG after a closing day of summer transfer window.

You wouldn't be certain about this term as what I read from different channels varies, so I will not conclude on a certain term for now even if yours might be the actual one and it's from goal[dot]com. What I could conclude upon is the agreement of Al-hilal's €300m bid for Mbappe, but still depends on whether he will agree or not. Presently, PSG is still persuading him to take the offer, but I believe that Mbappe is not ready to leave Europe yet as he is still very young. SPL is better for holding players that had already made a name for themselves, not a young player like Mbappe that has though made a name but needs more and is still very young.

No wonder PSG has rekindled their interest in Victor Osimhen as they are ready to splash huge cash on him, the club and the owner Aurelio De Laurentiis just for the guy.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on July 25, 2023, 09:01:31 PM

PSG are stupid to include the term for loyalty fee but they set an unreasonable date to activate it.

PSG must sell Kylian Mbappe by August 1 or they owe him €60m as alarming contract clause revealed after €300m Al-Hilal bid.

So now we understand why PSG gave Mbappe an ultimatum till 31 July only but Mbappe is smart enough to know he won't lose anything if staying in PSG till 1 August. After that day, he will automatically get €60m from PSG and still be able to leave the club to Al Ahli.

I can not sympathize with PSG on the term, they can include the loyalty term in their contract with Mbappe but why not activate it on 30 or 31 August or 1 September? The loyalty term should be in place to make sure that the player can not move anywhere after that day and he will have to play for PSG after a closing day of summer transfer window.

In fact, there is no difference between August 1st and September 1st - Mbappe, according to the contract, must work for another year and he cannot leave "of his own free will." Therefore, if suddenly PSG sell Mbappe after August 1st, then they may demand a return of the loyalty bonus. And it will be difficult for Mbappe to refuse them because he himself is interested in leaving PSG.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 26, 2023, 03:05:24 AM

I don't think Mbappe should stay at PSG just because he is going to get a loyalty bonus. Because there is an enormous offer on the table by Al Hilal now. They are ready to pay an amount between 700-800 million euros to Mbappe for only one season. There is no reason for Mbappe not to accept that deal now in my opinion.

Of course he would like to play at Real Madrid but this won't happen until next season as it seems. He can take advantage of the season between like this rather than staying for getting that loyalty bonus which is worth way lower than the amount of money he can make at Al Hilal.

Mbappé won't extend his contract with PSC even though he stayed at psg because his contract with PSG expired but now that he has received a big offer from the Saudi League, he might move to Saudi Arabia for a year for sure. The offer made to Mbappe benefits both Mbappe and the club and guarantees Mbappe will join Real Madrid as a free agent next season Al Hilal so I think it's a great opportunity for Mbappe to earn money if he plays in the Saudi league for a year I don't think there will be any negative impact on performance. It would be the biggest transfer in football history if Mbappe joins Al Hilal. Mbappe's transfer is at the heart of the transfer market.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 26, 2023, 03:05:24 AM

I don't think Mbappe should stay at PSG just because he is going to get a loyalty bonus. Because there is an enormous offer on the table by Al Hilal now. They are ready to pay an amount between 700-800 million euros to Mbappe for only one season. There is no reason for Mbappe not to accept that deal now in my opinion.

Of course he would like to play at Real Madrid but this won't happen until next season as it seems. He can take advantage of the season between like this rather than staying for getting that loyalty bonus which is worth way lower than the amount of money he can make at Al Hilal.

If Mbappe leaves PSG, the attacking part of PSG team will be very weak. PSG's main objective is to do something extraordinary in the Champions League, so they are trying hard to keep Mbappe in the team.

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I don't think Mbappe should stay at PSG just because he is going to get a loyalty bonus. Because there is an enormous offer on the table by Al Hilal now. They are ready to pay an amount between 700-800 million euros to Mbappe for only one season. There is no reason for Mbappe not to accept that deal now in my opinion.

Of course he would like to play at Real Madrid but this won't happen until next season as it seems. He can take advantage of the season between like this rather than staying for getting that loyalty bonus which is worth way lower than the amount of money he can make at Al Hilal.

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PSG are stupid to include the term for loyalty fee but they set an unreasonable date to activate it.

PSG must sell Kylian Mbappe by August 1 or they owe him €60m as alarming contract clause revealed after €300m Al-Hilal bid.

So now we understand why PSG gave Mbappe an ultimatum till 31 July only but Mbappe is smart enough to know he won't lose anything if staying in PSG till 1 August. After that day, he will automatically get €60m from PSG and still be able to leave the club to Al Ahli.

I can not sympathize with PSG on the term, they can include the loyalty term in their contract with Mbappe but why not activate it on 30 or 31 August or 1 September? The loyalty term should be in place to make sure that the player can not move anywhere after that day and he will have to play for PSG after a closing day of summer transfer window.

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Quote from: temple on July 25, 2023, 04:56:09 PM

If the reports about Mbappe and Al-Hilal's bid are correct, PSG has already accepted the 300 million and warranted Mbappe the right to have negotiations with Al-Hilal. For PSG it looks as if it is about the money and that they want to get rid of him at the right price. The discussions about him and also the attacks against each other between PSG and Mbappe are not very promising should they end up spending another season together. Mbappe will let the clock run down now and force all interested parties to raise their offer as long as they can.

I think a decision will be made in the near future because psg seems to have received an offer from Al hilal and this progress is from mbappe whether he agrees to move to Al hilal. But seeing the fantastic salary offer given by Al Hilal there is a high probability that Mbappe will accept it because the duration of the contract is only 1 season before he decides to leave and join Real Madrid next season.

I think PSG really want a lot of money in Mbappe transfer and Al Hilal is one of the teams that offers quite a fantastic price because PSG can reap a lot of profit from selling Mbappe. I see Real Madrid not going to make any bids in this transfer window because they don't want to waste a lot of money on mbappe because Real Madrid can get him for free next season.

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