Topic: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 818. (Read 188889 times)

Luis Enrique's track record as an experienced coach is certainly extraordinary and I personally respect him a lot. When training Barcelona it was 8 years ago and of course now the era has changed, every football development cannot be predicted easily, especially for the champions league, of course every season the winner is always different. Therefore I will be quite happy if Luis Enrique helps PSG win the Ligue 1 title first before targeting titles in other competitions. However, if Luis Enrique manages to turn this team into one to be feared from next season, I think they have a chance to win the champions league even though the possibility is very slim.

PSG are clear in this summer and they sent an ultimatum to Mbappe that he has only 2 weeks to decide that he stays in PSG, signs a new contract or leaves the club in this summer. They already signed with Luis Enrique and can officially start their summer transfer season with idea and plan from their new coach and his assistant team.

If the wish of Mbappe is only for himself, PSG don't have reason to pay him more money and keep him in Paris just two or three more seasons. With Mbappe style and ambition, he is not happy to stay in PSG and Real Madrid is always in his mind. It's a joke if a player can have all good conditions in his hands, not the club that is paying his salary.

Mbappe does not have loyalty to PSG and he only wants titles, Champions League, Ballon d'Or and money. He can easily leaves PSG in this summer and joins Real Madrid but a main barrier is he does not want to sacrifice money he will get from PSG in a last year of this contract. He wants everything for himself and I am sure both PSG and Real Madrid don't feel comfortable with it.

I think it's time for psg to clarify about mbappe future, I mean he should be sold to another team and they will part ways in this transfer window. Seeing the case between Mbappe and PSG that didn't go according to PSG wishes, of course PSG can take a stand without having to wait for a decision from the player. It's true that Mbappe often has internal problems with other players, for example when he didn't get along with Neymar or Messi in the previous season.

So for that I think PSG will do the best for them either from a business perspective or from a loyalty point of view for Mbappe which will be seen this month. That means if Mbappe doesn't sign a new contract it means he doesn't have deep loyalty to PSG because he could leave on a free transfer next season.

It's not only you but me too. Mbappe doesn't wanna take win win situation for both of parties. Mbappe can leave from the club easily without any problem. The main problem was mbappe itself. PSG tries to solve the problem as soon as possible but mbappe prevents the club from doing that by being so harsh to stay in PSG for another season. The only best thing to decrease mbappe's value. It can become the only option that can be taken by PSG but club gonna faces huge loss by doing it.
At least it's far better compared with let him go with free agent next year. PSG shall consider this as the last choice for club to deceide the future of mbappe.

Mbappe's story is always become a complicated story. This player is also facing so many problems due to the various reasons.

They are unable to win the champions league mostly because the only thing PSg have is money and they don't know how to spend this money to help the team.
For example, in the last season, they has the most expensive players like Messi and Neymar but it didn't work for them.
I guess this time with their new coach Enrique they can have more chance to win the title and race for it.

I remember Mbappe's ambition, especially in champions league matches. He had more ambition and willpower than his teammates. But they never got the trophy. This made Mbappe unhappy. We know Mbappe's interest in Real Madrid and there are constant reports of this interest. I don't understand why Real Madrid waited so long to get Mbappe.

We know that PSG's offensive line consists of world stars. Despite this, the biggest reason why they fail in the champions league is that a team is not made up of only offensive players. The defensive line should also consist of very good players.

But there is something that seems to be overlooked quite often and that is the motivation and the greed for success of the players they buy. I have no doubt that Mbappe wants to win the Champions League as soon as possible as that is a title he is still missing and a player at his level would probably have won it already with a different team. But when you look at Messi and Neymar and especially Messi, these guys had their success with Barcelona and Messi has played for the best Barcelona team there has ever been. He made it be the best Barcelona team. Everyone remembers his greed for success and his determination to win the big games. He is still a genius, but was he the Messi who peaked at Barcelona also for PSG? In my opinion no and I am saying that as a Messi fan and I had a similar feeling with Neymar.

PSG have been unable to win the Champions League for a long time now. This season they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. This is the best attacking line up of any European club. Even Manchester City, who had no problem winning the Champions League this season, have a worse attacking line up than PSG. Well, the fact that PSG regularly win Ligue 1 is because they have almost no competition, and they barely won this season.

I understand you about your point of view. It has truth in it also because we really need a long time period to announce a manager like one of the bests or so. However he is still technically very successful. Even though he didn't have long years at Real Madrid as a manager he still used this time period very effectively and won 3 Champions League titles in a row.

I don't believe this is a job that anyone can do although the team we are talking about is Real Madrid. This is a high level consistency and Ancelotti couldn't do the same so far.

But on the other hand we watched Zidane this much successful only at Real Madrid. We never know what he can do with other top teams.

IMO in moving to a club to prove quality in this case I think regardless of the club there still has to be proof done and precisely when in a big club the pressure given and the proof done is even greater.
Currently Zidane remains one of the phenomenal figures so it is difficult to criticize this person because when he coaches it is difficult to make the club he coaches end tragically from the results.

Enrique has quite good experience and he is also one of the coaches who I think has experienced ups and downs in performance but indeed by giving full trust at this time to Enrique then there is indeed no other choice for PSG but to continue that trust at least for this season.

You're right, it's too early to say that because there are a lot of big, quality clubs out there in different leagues, and their experience can be considered quite experienced. Yes, we also have to see how performance PSG in the next new season, whether they look good enough or bad. But I think they will get better under Enrique leadership. Somehow I can think like that, maybe look at his track record. The reason is, when leading Barcelona in his first season they were able to secure the UCL title and it is possible that he can also be lucky in his first season with PSG.

Let's assume that Zidane was lucky to have achieved more in a few years but football is all about trophies and not years of experience. It will be nice if Zidane moves to another club to prove his worth. We don't have the potency of predicting the future so we don't know how the Frenchman's coaching career will turn out in a few years to come. But for now, Zidane is one of the most highly respected coaches in the world.

I am very confident that Enrique will manage the PSG team effectively because of his wealth of experience. He would be able to command the respect of the PSG player better than Christophe Galtier. I assume that the rumor of indiscipline and conflict between most top PSG players was a result of his inability to control the big names. Concerning Mbappe the club has made their position clear, let him sign a new contract or consider moving out of the team. The club is willing to sell him to any club that can pay his €200m price tag. But clubs are also scared by his high wage.

There is a bit of a problem with that logic though, we are talking about something that would be seriously skewed to one direction and unfortunately fail at the same time as well. I am not saying Zidane is bad or anything of course, Zidane is great, but he had 3 years and 3 ucl's and because of that everyone thinks he is all-time worthy manager. Give him 10-15 more years as a manager and see how he does before we can judge him.

Louis Enrique definitely managed his fair share of players and teams which I believe that would be a bit of a trouble, but looking into the current situation I would say that the best thing about him is that at least he has experience, Zidane doesn't have that and that's the difference between them.

Mbappe has previously told the club he would not leave for free. as Nasser Al Khelaifi said, during his interview session some time ago. Now, Mbappe has changed his mind and I'm sure no club wants to lose out on his player leaving on a free agent. because after all, PSG has spent a lot of money on mbappe. ideally, now the club and Mbappe will find a middle ground. if we refer to what Al Khelaifi said. he wants Mbappe to stay but with new contacts. after that, Mabppe may leave in the next season. thus, PSG will not suffer too big a loss.

Another scenario, Madrid will try to make an approach with an appropriate price to be mutually agreed upon. thus, PSG no longer need to pay bonuses for Mbappe. referring to what you said, which Premier League club would pay Mbappe's value of €200 million. while City already has Haaland. also the problem, Mbappe only wants Madrid. then, is Madrid willing to pay a fantastic price after Perez said he would not bring in another striker. ideally if Mbappe wants to leave, he can do it. but with conditions, renew his contract and PSG will change to reduce their burden if Mbappe leaves later. After that, Mbappe can go play for the club he wants and PSG will not suffer too much.

Well another problem, as said by @Sexylizzy2813. that the relationship between Mbappe and Ultras will not be as it used to be. it could be, if Mbappe will come under pressure.

If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.

We're really getting fed up with all the problems Kylian Mbappe's issues. Honestly, it seems like he could be sold for a much lower price considering he only has one year left on his contract. The club doesn't want to risk losing him for free next season, but they can't force him to stay either. I personally believe he'll end up leaving for about half of his current value.

What kind of term is "too soon" in the context of winning the Champions League? Do you mean it is impossible or do you mean it is not right to expect PSG to win it? Because there is no !too soon" in my opinion. Was it too soon for Inter Milan as well because they haven't been in a final for over a decade? One reason might be that the Ligue 1 is too weak and PSG is the outlier, which means that they are unchallenged most of the time and then they face the heavy weights and don't know how to handle it. There is a reason that the last winner from Ligue 1 was in 1992/93 when Marseille won it and that was the only time in the last 70 years. 

Since this is the first season for some of PSG's new recruits, I think it's too soon to win the champions league title. Maybe for the three young players you mentioned it is better to maintain their quality first with one of them helping to secure the Ligue 1 title which so far has been a definite title that PSG can win every season.

The presence of Luis Enrique is also not necessarily a lubricant to facilitate PSG's chances of winning various titles and I think it is better for his first season to keep his players stable. After that, they can focus on thinking about how to win the Champions League title for the first time, and that must also be accompanied by a qualified squad update with other talented players.

That's a good move from PSG because they were usually trying to hire old and expensive players from other teams like they hired Neymar and Messi. These players they hired in the last season didn't give good results to PSG and now they tried to hire Cher Ndour who is 18y old player and he has the experience of working in the youth Italy team. He can be a good investment for PSG.