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I can appreciate your viewpoint on Lionel Messi departure from Paris Saint Germain (PSG) and the prospective loss of Neymar. PSG still has a lot of quality and resources that make them great candidates for the French championship crown even though these are unquestionably substantial changes for the team. PSG would be prudent to bolster their team more if their ultimate objective is to win the coveted Champions League. Even if it may have had some positive effects for both sides Kylian Mbappe outstanding talent will now be the centre of PSG game plan as a result of Messi departure.

PSG can increase their chances of winning on the European stage by spending more money on reinforcements. To fully utilise their great lineup the squad will need to adjust and refine their tactics.

PSG have long wanted to sell Neymar, because he costs them a lot, but at the same time, he is not all right with discipline.
Again, spend money on strengthening the team, in my opinion they only do this every off-season, but where is the result? It would be better for them to hire a good coach and let him work with the team for several years, but they try to change something every year, but the team is not formed this way, it takes more time. But in place of this, a new coach comes to the team and every time he starts to change everything in his own way.
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Next season for PSg can be a nightmare if they don't get alternative players for any player they are going to lose, like Messi and Neymar because during this season even with see players they failed to get the results they wanted to get in French League and they failed in champions league however PSG won the French League title but the fact about PSG is they should start seeking for a new coach to gather a stronger team for the next season. However, they will need to invest even more than this season for the next season to rebuild the team.
I think that even taking into account the loss of Messi and the potential loss of Neymar in the squad, Paris Saint-Germain is obliged to take the championship title in France with a margin. And so, yes, you definitely need to strengthen if PSG still wants to win the coveted Champions League. I would not exaggerate so much for the fact of Messi's departure, because strictly speaking, the club simply served as a kind of incubator for Lionel to finally win his coveted World Cup title and also pump up his personal statistics on effective actions in European championships, but globally for what he was called into the team, the goal was not fulfilled and maybe it's even for the best that Messi has gone to the MLS and now PSG can build their game exclusively around Mbappe.
I can appreciate your viewpoint on Lionel Messi departure from Paris Saint Germain (PSG) and the prospective loss of Neymar. PSG still has a lot of quality and resources that make them great candidates for the French championship crown even though these are unquestionably substantial changes for the team. PSG would be prudent to bolster their team more if their ultimate objective is to win the coveted Champions League. Even if it may have had some positive effects for both sides Kylian Mbappe outstanding talent will now be the centre of PSG game plan as a result of Messi departure.

PSG can increase their chances of winning on the European stage by spending more money on reinforcements. To fully utilise their great lineup the squad will need to adjust and refine their tactics.
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Next season for PSg can be a nightmare if they don't get alternative players for any player they are going to lose, like Messi and Neymar because during this season even with see players they failed to get the results they wanted to get in French League and they failed in champions league however PSG won the French League title but the fact about PSG is they should start seeking for a new coach to gather a stronger team for the next season. However, they will need to invest even more than this season for the next season to rebuild the team.
I think that even taking into account the loss of Messi and the potential loss of Neymar in the squad, Paris Saint-Germain is obliged to take the championship title in France with a margin. And so, yes, you definitely need to strengthen if PSG still wants to win the coveted Champions League. I would not exaggerate so much for the fact of Messi's departure, because strictly speaking, the club simply served as a kind of incubator for Lionel to finally win his coveted World Cup title and also pump up his personal statistics on effective actions in European championships, but globally for what he was called into the team, the goal was not fulfilled and maybe it's even for the best that Messi has gone to the MLS and now PSG can build their game exclusively around Mbappe.

They should definitely still win the title. If you compare the budgets the teams have available and the overall spending on average per year, it would be a shame if PSG does not win the title in the coming seasons.

But there is one more thing that is even more interesting than the overall spending. The fans yelled negatively at Messi and blamed him for not playing well. Ok, then they can't use this as an excuse when he is now gone and they don't win the title. Cheesy
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Next season for PSg can be a nightmare if they don't get alternative players for any player they are going to lose, like Messi and Neymar because during this season even with see players they failed to get the results they wanted to get in French League and they failed in champions league however PSG won the French League title but the fact about PSG is they should start seeking for a new coach to gather a stronger team for the next season.
However, they will need to invest even more than this season for the next season to rebuild the team.
PSG will consolidate the team and they have enough funds to do so essentially after the departure of Messi and Ramos from Paris. There is Neymar that seems to be attracted by Saudis since his return to Barcelona is rejected by Xavi. Well I believe everyone in Barcelona will not accept his return that easily..

Paris saint Germain is a rich but failed team in my opinion. Because they can do everything, but they can't get good results from what they do. Before they plan to bring in players to replace the positions left behind, they must improve first, be it from management, coaches and all levels directly related to the team. I think I've seen their problem now, which is bad management.
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Is this and end of an era for PSG dream team ? They didn't win UCL and now everyone seems to leave or about to leave next year.

I know the Messi situation will continue to be on front page on every newspaper but I really believe that his move to Inter is bad one as he still has a lot to offer to football in Europe but I guess after he full filled his dream to win WC , his desire to play top football is kinda gone. In MLS , he will  simply destroy them but he has to be mega careful to avoid injuries because those players are not used to what Messi will do to them.  Grin
I think there is still hope for PSG to create a dream team next season and it's just a matter of how the club's management manages it in the summer. Messi's departure will indeed be the main focus for the Paris capital team and until now Messi's departure still leaves a hole. Neymar is also not in top shape because he has not recovered 100% from injury and maybe Mbappe is PSG's only hope for next season.

After winning the world cup, Messi's passion for European football has indeed disappeared and at the age of 35 he should still be able to play at a European club for up to 1 or 2 seasons, but he prefers to enjoy life at the end of his retirement by joining Inter Miami. We know that no matter how much Messi dribbles on the field, hard tackles from opposing players will always be a problem and indeed it is a bit risky to be prone to injury one day.

Imagine you are the owner of PSG and you spent lots of money on this team and in return they couldn't get the good results you wanted to see, I think you won't invest in this team anymore because they made an investment and they failed.
That's why it's not even surprising to seethe the owner of PSG spends less money.
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Next season for PSg can be a nightmare if they don't get alternative players for any player they are going to lose, like Messi and Neymar because during this season even with see players they failed to get the results they wanted to get in French League and they failed in champions league however PSG won the French League title but the fact about PSG is they should start seeking for a new coach to gather a stronger team for the next season. However, they will need to invest even more than this season for the next season to rebuild the team.
I think that even taking into account the loss of Messi and the potential loss of Neymar in the squad, Paris Saint-Germain is obliged to take the championship title in France with a margin. And so, yes, you definitely need to strengthen if PSG still wants to win the coveted Champions League. I would not exaggerate so much for the fact of Messi's departure, because strictly speaking, the club simply served as a kind of incubator for Lionel to finally win his coveted World Cup title and also pump up his personal statistics on effective actions in European championships, but globally for what he was called into the team, the goal was not fulfilled and maybe it's even for the best that Messi has gone to the MLS and now PSG can build their game exclusively around Mbappe.
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Next season for PSg can be a nightmare if they don't get alternative players for any player they are going to lose, like Messi and Neymar because during this season even with see players they failed to get the results they wanted to get in French League and they failed in champions league however PSG won the French League title but the fact about PSG is they should start seeking for a new coach to gather a stronger team for the next season.
However, they will need to invest even more than this season for the next season to rebuild the team.
PSG will consolidate the team and they have enough funds to do so essentially after the departure of Messi and Ramos from Paris. There is Neymar that seems to be attracted by Saudis since his return to Barcelona is rejected by Xavi. Well I believe everyone in Barcelona will not accept his return that easily..
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PSG spent a lot of money and signed several star players. Even then their performance was not good. Even though the Ligue 1 teams are not very strong, the PSG team cannot perform well. Even PSG spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title. But their performance in the Champions League was worse. Even though they have a lot of money, PSG management can buy star players even if Messi and Neymar leave the team. We will see a lot of star players in PSG's squad next season as well. However, Ligue 1 is not very competitive. And I think the Newcastle team is much stronger than PSG right now. Because the Premier League is very competitive. The standards of Ligue 1 teams are much lower than Premier League teams.

I remember galtier has ever said on his interview if he was not fully exploring messi. I meant he's still found difficulties to maximize the skills that owned by messi. Messi was amazing but from what already said by galtier if PSG was making a mistake by signed unprofessional coach to manage PSG.

I think that for a big scale club like PSG and it looks so pity if this club will not able to hire a good coach. To be honest, naglesmann was not as good as people think.
He was still young and i will prefer to take xabi from leverkusen rather than him caused by xabi was able making leverkusen played even better and leave from the relegation zone.

He has been also ever being coached by some world class club like pep or mourinho.
Paris Saint Germaine in my opinion squandered the opportunity of winning the UEFA Champions League title with a squad that was considered as the best in the world in terms of quality and standard.
They didn't achieve that great feat because they lacked a manager who could possibly find the best playing style that would bring out the best of Neymar, Mbappe and Lionel Messi. Messi is gonna leave this summer so is Sergio Ramos with Neymar uncertain about his future which means it'll take a huge investment again for the club to restore such quality to their side
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Finally Mbappe gets what he wanted in last few seasons. He became a only and biggest super star in PSG after Messi and likely Neymar departures. Now he will have a bigger responsibility to carry PSG to titles. He will have to show that he is able to shine without Messi and Neymar.

It is time for Mbappe to show his talent and high ego.

Mbappe is indeed a player with good talent. but with him going to shine alone at PSG, I'm not sure it can lead PSG to the Champions League title they want. even with Neymar and Messi in the team, PSG is also having problems in the UCL. and it will not be easy to force Mbappe to fend for himself up front.
PSG will definitely make several player purchases to support Mbappe on the front lines.
I also think so, although Mbappe is a good player but he can't fight alone, and PSG must recruit a few more players to strengthen their front line. Unfortunately, I haven't found any other rumors regarding Messi replacement, but I hope PSG find a suitable replacement for their UCL targets because next season won't be easy for PSG.
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Next season for PSg can be a nightmare if they don't get alternative players for any player they are going to lose, like Messi and Neymar because during this season even with see players they failed to get the results they wanted to get in French League and they failed in champions league however PSG won the French League title but the fact about PSG is they should start seeking for a new coach to gather a stronger team for the next season.
However, they will need to invest even more than this season for the next season to rebuild the team.
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Is this and end of an era for PSG dream team ? They didn't win UCL and now everyone seems to leave or about to leave next year.

I know the Messi situation will continue to be on front page on every newspaper but I really believe that his move to Inter is bad one as he still has a lot to offer to football in Europe but I guess after he full filled his dream to win WC , his desire to play top football is kinda gone. In MLS , he will  simply destroy them but he has to be mega careful to avoid injuries because those players are not used to what Messi will do to them.  Grin
I think there is still hope for PSG to create a dream team next season and it's just a matter of how the club's management manages it in the summer. Messi's departure will indeed be the main focus for the Paris capital team and until now Messi's departure still leaves a hole. Neymar is also not in top shape because he has not recovered 100% from injury and maybe Mbappe is PSG's only hope for next season.

After winning the world cup, Messi's passion for European football has indeed disappeared and at the age of 35 he should still be able to play at a European club for up to 1 or 2 seasons, but he prefers to enjoy life at the end of his retirement by joining Inter Miami. We know that no matter how much Messi dribbles on the field, hard tackles from opposing players will always be a problem and indeed it is a bit risky to be prone to injury one day.
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I heard that on the news when they said Nagelsmann is going to join PSG for the next season and they think the reason of their team failed in this season was because of the bad coach they had.
If Nagelsmann gets better results in PSG I think Bayern Munich will feel regret.
Now indeed the talk of Nagelsmann and PSG is increasingly being heard and I see this is another name apart from Conte and Zidane who are currently still busy talking about PSG.
This is indeed a viable option rather than still having to hope for Galtier even though he is a good coach but for PSG this is still very lacking.
Several other conditions emerged from Henry now because indeed he said if Nagelsmann went to PSG then he was ready to be his assistant.
After end of the season, we have too many rumors about PSG and their future with many star players are already on their way for new clubs and few are having talks in progress with PSG management is also looking for the coach which able to give them Champions League with their first choice Zidane is already reject offer which is surely embarrassing for them but no one can do anything regarding this, so now we have two more names in their with Naglsmann and Mourinho which can join them, but it's too early with Conte is also in list which is interested so how things will be ended we have to wait for the official statement because right now all just news from different sources nothing from main parties.

The most important rumor is about Galtier because I think they hired enough players in this season and they couldn't get good results, that's why I think they are seeking for alternative for Galtier, and Zidane is on top of the list.


Finally Mbappe gets what he wanted in last few seasons. He became a only and biggest super star in PSG after Messi and likely Neymar departures. Now he will have a bigger responsibility to carry PSG to titles. He will have to show that he is able to shine without Messi and Neymar.

It is time for Mbappe to show his talent and high ego.

Mbappe is indeed a player with good talent. but with him going to shine alone at PSG, I'm not sure it can lead PSG to the Champions League title they want. even with Neymar and Messi in the team, PSG is also having problems in the UCL. and it will not be easy to force Mbappe to fend for himself up front.
PSG will definitely make several player purchases to support Mbappe on the front lines.

Yes, Mbappe is a talented player and he could maybe have a better situation if he joined Real Madrid instead of extending his contract with PSG because there Real Madrid he could have a better chance to achieve more goals.
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There will be an impact felt when Messi leaves, but on the other hand, of course, things like this can still be minimized if they immediately move quickly to find other fresher players, but don't let the fans give high expectations because they are afraid the same thing will happen to Messi. can happen again to new players when it doesn't match their expectations.
Now Asensio is expected to be one of the strong candidates at PSG, hopefully he will not be damaged again in terms of fame by some irresponsible fans.
The impact might not be that big for PSG if the team can find a replacement that is no less good than Messi more quickly. However, during this break, almost all teams will try to find fresh and young players to replace the old players who have left the team. That's why all teams that have enough funds will move quickly to get the new players they want during a break like this, especially for teams like PSG who generally really need new players to have a better next season than the previous season.
As I said before this depends on how PSG find suitable players.
For a new player like Messi there won't be one I think because he is extraordinary but to find a player who matches PSG's vision it can still be done and of course this can still be found now with the finances and time that is still long enough I think they can do that though the pattern may still be the same because it only revolves around Mbappe when talking about PSG.

Well I agree with what you say, PSG has to know which players are the best to adapt to their style of play, it should be noted that they had the most dangerous trident in the world Messi-Mbappé-Neymar, nothing more and nothing less than two footballers from the most influential is an Argentine and a Brazilian considered the best in the world and a Frenchman who shows that French football, apart from being very elegant, has players that are getting better and better and of a high level, if they did not manage to win the UCL , What can the Sheikh expect if I have not yet seen players of their level, there are some who are young, but who do not stand out like them, I think that PSG made the mistake of their Lives by leaving Messi and leaving the Coach , I would never in my life Leave Messi.

The fit is important because in a club it is not just the players that are looked at but the coaches also need to be noticed.
Last season their players, as you said, were so luxurious but the coach's authority was very little in this matter which made even if they continued to force the results in the end the same nothing changed because the players are good but without good tactics it will remain ordinary.
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I do not think that PSG will be all that bad just because they are losing Messi, he wasn't the only person that made them good and won't be the reason why they may become bad. First of all, they barely won the title anyway, and they lost UCL as well, so it wasn't some epic season for them neither, and that's why I wouldn't say that it matters all that much. Secondly, I feel like we should be focusing on who they are going to get, if they get someone better than they will be fine. They still have 24 year old Mbappe, Marquinhos, Hakimi, Mendes, Donnaruma, Kimpembe. '

These are all great players they can win UCL with, and they just need to find players for other positions instead. Neymar is still there officially but I am expecting him to leave as well, that should be easy enough to see.

Messi is a great player and makes a great contribution to the team regardless of his age. He was a name that everyone respected. But winning the Champions League is a very difficult thing, PSG didn't perform well enough and we didn't watch them in the semi-finals.
From now on we will watch younger players in Napoli. The absence of Messi will not cost the team much, we all know that there has been an uneasy atmosphere in the team in recent months Smiley
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If they wanted to run projects like PSg in the premier league they had to spend much more money because in the premier league, there are many ort rich teams and there is a closer race between other teams while in the French League, they could have easier days, if they were spending this money in premier they could even lose the top of the table easily.
That is exactly the point and that is why I am not a big fan of picking a league that is inferior and then invest a billion and celebrate the team for winning the title on a yearly basis. Not a lot of people are truly excited when they can watch Neymar, Messi and Mbappe play against Troyes. But what if they hypothetically be playing for Newcastle instead and people get to see them to play against Manchester United / City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Having those three guys play for the Ligue 1 title in the same team became very boring over time. Everyone was waiting for half a year to pass until the knockout games in the Champions League finally began and if PSG got eliminated early, then the season was essentially over.

PSG spent a lot of money and signed several star players. Even then their performance was not good. Even though the Ligue 1 teams are not very strong, the PSG team cannot perform well. Even PSG spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title. But their performance in the Champions League was worse. Even though they have a lot of money, PSG management can buy star players even if Messi and Neymar leave the team. We will see a lot of star players in PSG's squad next season as well. However, Ligue 1 is not very competitive. And I think the Newcastle team is much stronger than PSG right now. Because the Premier League is very competitive. The standards of Ligue 1 teams are much lower than Premier League teams.
PSG's spending spree, in contrast with their subpar performance, seems as mismatched as a bird at a fish party. Messi's situation in PSG is a stark reminder that the best of players can struggle under unqualified management. Galtier's public admission about struggling to tap into Messi's potential exemplifies this issue. The role of a competent coach, as you aptly pointed out, cannot be undermined.

It's indeed true that Ligue 1 falls short in terms of competition when juxtaposed with the Premier League. While PSG may dominate their domestic league with their galaxy of stars, the real test of their mettle comes at the continental level, where they've been underwhelming. Perhaps the likes of Newcastle are indeed in a better position to compete given the rigorous competition they face week in, week out.
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Is this and end of an era for PSG dream team ? They didn't win UCL and now everyone seems to leave or about to leave next year.

I know the Messi situation will continue to be on front page on every newspaper but I really believe that his move to Inter is bad one as he still has a lot to offer to football in Europe but I guess after he full filled his dream to win WC , his desire to play top football is kinda gone. In MLS , he will  simply destroy them but he has to be mega careful to avoid injuries because those players are not used to what Messi will do to them.  Grin
It's not impossible that their followers on social media will also leave apart from the departure of the players Cheesy
It's really difficult for PSG in this case because they always try to look for the best but it only backfires because the performance of players who have come out of the golden era is forced to not go well either.
As for Messi, even though in this case he is going to America and not in Europe again for next season, I can't say much, especially with the benefits he gets from his new club.
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I do not think that PSG will be all that bad just because they are losing Messi, he wasn't the only person that made them good and won't be the reason why they may become bad. First of all, they barely won the title anyway, and they lost UCL as well, so it wasn't some epic season for them neither, and that's why I wouldn't say that it matters all that much. Secondly, I feel like we should be focusing on who they are going to get, if they get someone better than they will be fine. They still have 24 year old Mbappe, Marquinhos, Hakimi, Mendes, Donnaruma, Kimpembe. '

These are all great players they can win UCL with, and they just need to find players for other positions instead. Neymar is still there officially but I am expecting him to leave as well, that should be easy enough to see.
First season with PSG, Lionel Messi have played 26 games with 6 goals and contributed 16 assists in Ligue 1 then his appearance in Champion League played 7 games and scoring 5 goals. But Lionel Messi has good performance on second season with PSG from 32 games in Ligue 1 success scoring 16 goals and has 16 assists.

But losing Messi is not over for PSG because since two season Lionel Messi joined PSG he can't bring great achievement in Champion League, without Messi, PSG won Ligue 1 and French Cup and signing Messi they want Champion League tittle but failed. Lionel Messi have leave PSG and Asensio is the first signing in this season for replacing Messi position, lets see how consistent or better performance from PSG next season in Champion League.

PSG is not a balanced team. They might have the best attackers in the world. But they certainly do not have the best midfield or even defense. They have a lot of money. I do not understand why they just do not get players for all the positions. Obviously, they can afford to do that. They should have done that two seasons ago. They had the best attacking lineup and probably with a good defense and midfield trophy.

Now they will have to make a big change all around the squad. With all the good players that they had leaving it is going to be much more harder for them to get a squad like they had again in my opinion.
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Is this and end of an era for PSG dream team ? They didn't win UCL and now everyone seems to leave or about to leave next year.

I know the Messi situation will continue to be on front page on every newspaper but I really believe that his move to Inter is bad one as he still has a lot to offer to football in Europe but I guess after he full filled his dream to win WC , his desire to play top football is kinda gone. In MLS , he will  simply destroy them but he has to be mega careful to avoid injuries because those players are not used to what Messi will do to them.  Grin

He couldn't destroy anyone even in Ligue 1 playing for the super dominant club PSG lol. If Inter from Miami doesn't buy a few more top players to ensure midfield dominance, then Messi will play in stealth mode (as he usually does in important games).
As for PSG, if they choose the right strategy (like City, for example), then their era will come - they have endless money and with a simple enumeration of players, they can sooner or later assemble a super-dominant team.
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Is this and end of an era for PSG dream team ? They didn't win UCL and now everyone seems to leave or about to leave next year.

I know the Messi situation will continue to be on front page on every newspaper but I really believe that his move to Inter is bad one as he still has a lot to offer to football in Europe but I guess after he full filled his dream to win WC , his desire to play top football is kinda gone. In MLS , he will  simply destroy them but he has to be mega careful to avoid injuries because those players are not used to what Messi will do to them.  Grin

it can be said that the decision taken by Messi to prefer MLS was quite wise. what else can messi expect at PSG, he is no longer appreciated by PSG fans for failing to bring PSG to win the UCL trophy even though he has worked hard for it, maybe we will also hear news about Neymar moving to another team but for mbappe it looks like he will stay at PSG until some time in the future maybe.
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I do not think that PSG will be all that bad just because they are losing Messi, he wasn't the only person that made them good and won't be the reason why they may become bad. First of all, they barely won the title anyway, and they lost UCL as well, so it wasn't some epic season for them neither, and that's why I wouldn't say that it matters all that much. Secondly, I feel like we should be focusing on who they are going to get, if they get someone better than they will be fine. They still have 24 year old Mbappe, Marquinhos, Hakimi, Mendes, Donnaruma, Kimpembe. '

These are all great players they can win UCL with, and they just need to find players for other positions instead. Neymar is still there officially but I am expecting him to leave as well, that should be easy enough to see.
First season with PSG, Lionel Messi have played 26 games with 6 goals and contributed 16 assists in Ligue 1 then his appearance in Champion League played 7 games and scoring 5 goals. But Lionel Messi has good performance on second season with PSG from 32 games in Ligue 1 success scoring 16 goals and has 16 assists.

But losing Messi is not over for PSG because since two season Lionel Messi joined PSG he can't bring great achievement in Champion League, without Messi, PSG won Ligue 1 and French Cup and signing Messi they want Champion League tittle but failed. Lionel Messi have leave PSG and Asensio is the first signing in this season for replacing Messi position, lets see how consistent or better performance from PSG next season in Champion League.
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