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Quote from: shogun47 on May 25, 2023, 05:55:11 AM

PSG did benefit from that transfer due to the public relations effect. It is similar to Ronaldo playing in the Saudi Professional League. I don't want to compare the two leagues, but the effect is there beyond doubt. I usually never followed Ligue 1, but when Neymar and Mbappe played there, I started watching some of the games and even more games since Messi also joined PSG. They have never won the Champions League, that is of course true. But there are still positive effects for them when they sign players for record money because it is dominating the news and people want to see how Neymar is doing.

PSG management done their best for winning Champions League with having one of the best players into team but sadly still they fail to do this, but they are not giving up and trying and trying again which is surely amazing from them but now in coming season we are going to have few good changes which can bring better results like Neymar is going and Messi is also in news about his future just Mbappé and few other quality players still can bring good success and wins but now foremost we are looking for the new coach who is coming its big question right now.

With most chances Messi will also leave, and we will have quality coach for the next season then surely things can go into their favor because their squad strength is amazing, and they need better mentor which can use these players with good strategy, and they are able to have better results in coming years.

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Quote from: Iranus on May 25, 2023, 03:33:27 PM

I will never say that Neymar is a bad player. Neymar is a great player. And we saw proof of his ability in the Barcelona jersey at the last World Cup. But Neymar's main weakness is his lack of fitness. Due to poor fitness, he suffered injuries easily. And can't be with the squad halfway through the season.
If his fitness is not good, no Premier League club will be interested in Neymar. La League clubs may not want to sign Neymar due to Neymar's higher wages. I think Neymar should join an American club now. Neymar can earn huge wages at an American club and the leagues are less competitive so he may not suffer too many injuries.

Neymar is at the forefront of leaving PSG in the next summer transfer window as PSG are reportedly more interested in getting the PSG club filled with young players for next season. If that happens, Neymar will automatically join a new team next season. Issues circulating Manchester United are very interested in getting Neymar in the summer transfer window because they need a change to the attack line and Neymar can be a very suitable player for Manchester United next season.

Apart from that messi will also leave psg when this season ends and messi will become a free agent in the upcoming transfer window. I think the departure of these two PSG star players will of course make the balance of PSG next season a little difficult if they can't find the right replacement for the position left by these two star players.

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Such a wonderful season for Lens so far! They have made themselves more comfortable at the second position after defeating Lorient away also. I think they absolutely deserve the position they are at now because of Marseille's throwing their chances so many times. It was another time Marseille did this against Lille last week. It is just like the season has finished for them already.

But now only thing I see is that Lens deserve to join the groups more than them.

Talking about Lens they have fantastic performance this season this because Lens has successfully to broke the domination of big teams such as Marseille and Monaco with occupy second place below to PSG and since promote on season 2020 Franck Haise has make this team is very stable in Ligue 1 and the result is Lens had good chances to playing at champion league which is this probably their first experience because before this season we always be recognized Lens as small team who cannot able to compete for top 4

And do not forget Lens this season has amazing records that at home Lens has got 16 wins with only lose once and these records is much better even from PSG and from defensive lines too currently Lens as the team with the strongest defense because they only conceded 28 goals from 36 matches and to accomplish their mission Lens have to win next week against Ajaccio and i think it shouldn't be a big deal for them because we all know ajaccio as one of the weak teams in this competition and beating them is not hard task for Lens

Indeed. Moreover Lens could have actually been a serious opponent for PSG in the title race also. Because you know how they defeated PSG home by 3-1 too. I know that they lost to PSG with the same score in Parc des Princes. However there was a big factor which affected Lens' game directly in a bad way. They got a very early red card which led them to drop their guard early against PSG at the same time.

Otherwise maybe Lens could have got some points even in that match also. Besides this season was normally a good opportunity for Lens or any other team to make a serious attempt for the league title. Because PSG have been really unbalanced with Galtier's management. They made so many point losses and risked their title chance too technically.

On one hand there was a similar consistency issue for Lens and Marseille both at the same time which was a big help for PSG to stay safe. But PSG need to take the right steps before next season to have a more reassuring performance.

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So I assume that if Neymar leaves, they weren't even good enough to get UCL with him, they would be much worse and have no chance without him. They need to end up getting some very good players, definitely for midfield, so that they could do much better on the long run and get that UCL cup.

it is undeniable that PSG itself needs Neymar to strengthen the players but unfortunately the injury experienced by Neymar has hindered PSG's performance. even though I have to let Neymar go and look for a better replacement I'm not sure if I can be the same as Neymar who had a strong performance before his injury.
this is what must be considered that in the following season PSG must make player changes that can strengthen the overall performance of the team without having to let go of Neymar.

I think with Neymar or not PSG is still PSG with those who can transfer anyone. Even if Neymar left, that's also not a problem because with his current age and with the current condition of the young players, it's possible to regenerate why not.
Neymar has indeed become one of the very good players now, but indeed for now with an injury and always having internal problems, especially the fans who are starting to be anarchic, there is actually no reason for him to still survive apart from money.

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I feel like no matter how long Neymars contract is, if the team says they do not want him and they want him to find another club, he is good enough to find another club, and he would be going for a good amount of money as well. I know that not a lot of people think of him as a great player anymore due to his injuries and obviously he will not be sold for 200+, that was already a stupid decision even back then, let alone now that he is much older.
However, he will find a place that would be willing to pay top money for him, many are talking about a potential Newcastle transfer. Which means, if PSG calls him up and tells him Newcastle has an offer and they want him to leave, it would be unwise of him to not accept that, why stay at a team that doesn't want you when there is a team willing to pay top money just to have you.

If you ask me Neymar could have good performance so far in PSG and maybe it's better for him to leave the team at the end of the season and as you said no matter when his contract expires. Because they don't respect him there, while in other teams he can have the potential to perform better than this.

in fact, I don't think Neymar will develop further if he leaves the PSG team, in recent seasons Neymar's performance has decreased even though Neymar's tandem at PSG is the current world soccer stars Mbappe and also Messi.
Neymar's contribution to PSG this season has not been much.
I doubt that there are other teams currently willing to pay Neymar a very high fee. The main problem for Neymar is not leaving PSG, namely his salary is too high so that no team can afford it, especially with his declining performance.

Years ago when Neymar was playing in Barcelona he had a much better perfume and after he left his team to PSG he could perform well anymore.
Also, Neymar is usually injured and this had a bad effect on his performance in PSG. For example this season he lost the season weeks ago when he got injured.
I think he won't have many offers from other teams at the end of this season and there is even a chance for us to see Neymar join Asian or American teams where he can get more money because it seems Neymar is near to end his career.

I will never say that Neymar is a bad player. Neymar is a great player. And we saw proof of his ability in the Barcelona jersey at the last World Cup. But Neymar's main weakness is his lack of fitness. Due to poor fitness, he suffered injuries easily. And can't be with the squad halfway through the season.
If his fitness is not good, no Premier League club will be interested in Neymar. La League clubs may not want to sign Neymar due to Neymar's higher wages. I think Neymar should join an American club now. Neymar can earn huge wages at an American club and the leagues are less competitive so he may not suffer too many injuries.

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Quote from: beerlover on May 25, 2023, 01:59:23 PM

So I assume that if Neymar leaves, they weren't even good enough to get UCL with him, they would be much worse and have no chance without him. They need to end up getting some very good players, definitely for midfield, so that they could do much better on the long run and get that UCL cup.

it is undeniable that PSG itself needs Neymar to strengthen the players but unfortunately the injury experienced by Neymar has hindered PSG's performance. even though I have to let Neymar go and look for a better replacement I'm not sure if I can be the same as Neymar who had a strong performance before his injury.
this is what must be considered that in the following season PSG must make player changes that can strengthen the overall performance of the team without having to let go of Neymar.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on May 25, 2023, 06:21:54 AM

PSG is a strong enough team without Neymar. And they are not dependent on Neymar's performance. PSG can win against any team if Mbappe and Messi play well. PSG will play just two more matches this season. PSG will play against Strasbourg and Clermont Fort. These two teams are not very strong. And so I don't think PSG's performance will deteriorate in any way even if Neymar is not with the squad for these two matches. But Neymar is likely to be in the starting XI for the next two matches if he is fully healthy. PSG management will not keep him on the bench.

Not entirely sure about this. I mean surely they are good enough to win the league without him, that is obvious and they should be getting someone else if Neymar leaves as well, not like they are going to end up with anything much worse. However, we are also considering something that we haven't in a while, which is the fact that they haven't won UCL with this team, they wanted to, that was their aim, in fact they fired managers for winning the league but not getting UCL neither.

So I assume that if Neymar leaves, they weren't even good enough to get UCL with him, they would be much worse and have no chance without him. They need to end up getting some very good players, definitely for midfield, so that they could do much better on the long run and get that UCL cup.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 25, 2023, 10:43:07 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on May 25, 2023, 06:21:02 AM

I don't know if there would be a serious offer to sign Neymar this summer. He has been linked with Manchester United the most maybe but I don't feel like their priority is Neymar right now. Their priority is to sign a solid centre-forward such as Kane. They will be ready to spend the amount needed for this transfer as well so spending a lot of money for Neymar transfer might not be very probable after that.

I'm thinking of Chelsea as a bigger candidate as they are ready to spend a lot of money just as they have done so far. But let's see. As he is injury-prone teams might be hesitant about going for him now.

Previously, Neymar was indeed linked with Manchester United, but through a press conference coach Erik ten Hag dismissed the news and he said if we have anything we will let you know. It is now quite clear that Neymar is not going to Manchester United and it seems that even if he did leave PSG he would still be waiting for interest from other European clubs.

But if Chelsea are interested, of course it will be easy for them to bring in Neymar because the impact that Neymar has as a star player will be felt, especially if Todd Boehly is a businessman, he will not let this opportunity go away. Regarding Neymar who is often prone to injuries, that is indeed a minus point that Neymar has and any club certainly knows about these consequences.

With his current condition even though he has some problems with his feet but he can still be in a big domestic league in Europe it's just that he also needs to think especially about the salary problem because I think regardless of anything expect a big salary and the same as at PSG with his current condition it was no longer possible.
But if he is at PSG too this will not have any effect and precisely with that he will be hated by PSG fans who in recent weeks some of them have always made noise.

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I feel like no matter how long Neymars contract is, if the team says they do not want him and they want him to find another club, he is good enough to find another club, and he would be going for a good amount of money as well. I know that not a lot of people think of him as a great player anymore due to his injuries and obviously he will not be sold for 200+, that was already a stupid decision even back then, let alone now that he is much older.

However, he will find a place that would be willing to pay top money for him, many are talking about a potential Newcastle transfer. Which means, if PSG calls him up and tells him Newcastle has an offer and they want him to leave, it would be unwise of him to not accept that, why stay at a team that doesn't want you when there is a team willing to pay top money just to have you.

If you ask me Neymar could have good performance so far in PSG and maybe it's better for him to leave the team at the end of the season and as you said no matter when his contract expires. Because they don't respect him there, while in other teams he can have the potential to perform better than this.

in fact, I don't think Neymar will develop further if he leaves the PSG team, in recent seasons Neymar's performance has decreased even though Neymar's tandem at PSG is the current world soccer stars Mbappe and also Messi.
Neymar's contribution to PSG this season has not been much.
I doubt that there are other teams currently willing to pay Neymar a very high fee. The main problem for Neymar is not leaving PSG, namely his salary is too high so that no team can afford it, especially with his declining performance.

Years ago when Neymar was playing in Barcelona he had a much better perfume and after he left his team to PSG he could perform well anymore.
Also, Neymar is usually injured and this had a bad effect on his performance in PSG. For example this season he lost the season weeks ago when he got injured.

I think he won't have many offers from other teams at the end of this season and there is even a chance for us to see Neymar join Asian or American teams where he can get more money because it seems Neymar is near to end his career.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on May 25, 2023, 06:21:54 AM

PSG is a strong enough team without Neymar. And they are not dependent on Neymar's performance. PSG can win against any team if Mbappe and Messi play well. PSG will play just two more matches this season. PSG will play against Strasbourg and Clermont Fort. These two teams are not very strong. And so I don't think PSG's performance will deteriorate in any way even if Neymar is not with the squad for these two matches. But Neymar is likely to be in the starting XI for the next two matches if he is fully healthy. PSG management will not keep him on the bench.

Without Neymar PSG will be fine, that's been proven. I've watched a lot of PSG matches without Neymar, PSG's performance is good because they have a good pattern of play. But about the results, in my opinion it depends on how the team creates chances and how the opposing team anticipates PSG's attack.

After all PSG have already confirmed the title this season and I don't think Neymar should come down and play the remaining match if he isn't ready to come back. But if Neymar is ready, I think he also deserves the opportunity to play for his team.

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Quote from: Alanaz on May 25, 2023, 11:47:05 AM

This week there is a game between Angers and Troyes, this game will not have any effect on them because they are confirmed to be relegated this season. But apart from that I think it will be a consolation match for them in official matches. Even so I hope they will play their best to make the game interesting, regardless of what they have this season.

Yes, at least they can take advantage of this match to get three points. Because to be honest, even though they will still be relegated, but when the team gets three points, of course it will be entertainment. Also, at least the results in this match to make the record in head to head also get better, because this is a match for teams of the same quality and also the same conditions.

So yes, this match should still be a proving match for them to look better in their head to head record. Because then, at least they will continue to play as they should, which must still have great motivation to win in this match.

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Quote from: snipie on May 25, 2023, 10:53:33 AM

Lens dropped to Ligue 2 by the end of 2014 - 2015 season then returned to Ligue 1 in 2020 - 2021 season, ended up in the 7th place twice and in this season they are impressing everyone by their performance passing old classic teams like Marseille, Lille, Monaco and Lyon.
They played well and deserve a chance to play in an European competitions, namely Champions League. They guaranteed that by the way and rest to know if they go directly to the group stage which will most likely happen after this round or whether they will lose twice and go to the qualification for Champions League which will be left for Marseille tho.

Seems excited for new promotion team returned to Ligue 1 in 2020/21 season and two years later success with Champion League spot standing placed. Indeed failed to be PSG compete in Ligue 1 but Lens have most impressive performance without have star player in their squad, actually one step left for Lens securing 2nd standings position by one points added on two matches left. Usually, Ligue 1 teams participants in Champion League dominance by Lyon, Monaco and Lille but this season will have new teams participants Lens for contributing in Champion League.

I don't sure, Lens will loss points and play in Champion League trough qualification, they have chance with one points achievement in two matches left save them for Marseille right now has 5 points left from Lens.

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This week there is a game between Angers and Troyes, this game will not have any effect on them because they are confirmed to be relegated this season. But apart from that I think it will be a consolation match for them in official matches. Even so I hope they will play their best to make the game interesting, regardless of what they have this season.

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Lens dropped to Ligue 2 by the end of 2014 - 2015 season then returned to Ligue 1 in 2020 - 2021 season, ended up in the 7th place twice and in this season they are impressing everyone by their performance passing old classic teams like Marseille, Lille, Monaco and Lyon.
They played well and deserve a chance to play in an European competitions, namely Champions League. They guaranteed that by the way and rest to know if they go directly to the group stage which will most likely happen after this round or whether they will lose twice and go to the qualification for Champions League which will be left for Marseille tho.

Yes, Lens can show very tight competition, it is also rare for a team that is relatively new after they can return to Ligue 1 to be able to impress and be able to compete with other teams who are already in Ligue 1 first. Now they are ranked 2nd and have a 5 point difference from Marseille, it looks like we have got a team that will accompany Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League, although they still have to add to their points collection.

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Quote from: Distraction on May 24, 2023, 02:42:33 PM

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Lens dropped to Ligue 2 by the end of 2014 - 2015 season then returned to Ligue 1 in 2020 - 2021 season, ended up in the 7th place twice and in this season they are impressing everyone by their performance passing old classic teams like Marseille, Lille, Monaco and Lyon.
They played well and deserve a chance to play in an European competitions, namely Champions League. They guaranteed that by the way and rest to know if they go directly to the group stage which will most likely happen after this round or whether they will lose twice and go to the qualification for Champions League which will be left for Marseille tho.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on May 25, 2023, 06:21:02 AM

I don't know if there would be a serious offer to sign Neymar this summer. He has been linked with Manchester United the most maybe but I don't feel like their priority is Neymar right now. Their priority is to sign a solid centre-forward such as Kane. They will be ready to spend the amount needed for this transfer as well so spending a lot of money for Neymar transfer might not be very probable after that.

I'm thinking of Chelsea as a bigger candidate as they are ready to spend a lot of money just as they have done so far. But let's see. As he is injury-prone teams might be hesitant about going for him now.

Previously, Neymar was indeed linked with Manchester United, but through a press conference coach Erik ten Hag dismissed the news and he said if we have anything we will let you know. It is now quite clear that Neymar is not going to Manchester United and it seems that even if he did leave PSG he would still be waiting for interest from other European clubs.

But if Chelsea are interested, of course it will be easy for them to bring in Neymar because the impact that Neymar has as a star player will be felt, especially if Todd Boehly is a businessman, he will not let this opportunity go away. Regarding Neymar who is often prone to injuries, that is indeed a minus point that Neymar has and any club certainly knows about these consequences.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on May 25, 2023, 06:21:02 AM

I don't know if there would be a serious offer to sign Neymar this summer. He has been linked with Manchester United the most maybe but I don't feel like their priority is Neymar right now. Their priority is to sign a solid centre-forward such as Kane. They will be ready to spend the amount needed for this transfer as well so spending a lot of money for Neymar transfer might not be very probable after that.

I'm thinking of Chelsea as a bigger candidate as they are ready to spend a lot of money just as they have done so far. But let's see. As he is injury-prone teams might be hesitant about going for him now.

Let's wait and see which club is interested in signing Neymar from SPG. So far, there are several clubs that have been rumored to be linked with Nyermar. whether Manchester United, Chelsea, even Newcastle. even though Neymar is hard not young anymore, and he is already 31 years old. but he can still be relied on, unfortunately this player is prone to injury.

I think, if PSG let Neymar go at a relatively cheap price. it would not be a loss for United to bring him to Old Trafford. at least, Neymar is a player who can be played in any position. he can play as a playmaker, winger and center forward. this player too, still proves his agility when playing on the field. there is nothing wrong, if Ten Hag is interested in taking him to Old Trafford. I think Neymar will suit the system that Ten Hag employs.
On the other hand, PSG supporters urged management to let Neymar go. the problem is, if PSG sells at a high price. I'm not sure if any club is willing to sign him. except, with the loan option as rumored recently.

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Quote from: Davian144 on May 25, 2023, 05:59:50 AM

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For me Neymar's position is very difficult after the injury at that time made a bad performance and I'm also not sure if Neymar has really recovered and there are other clubs who want to pay him a high salary on the one hand Neymar is in a state of injury that is not necessarily fully recovered.
I don't fully expect Neymar to be able to provide something good for Paris Saint-Germain because Mbappe is enough to bring Paris Saint-Germain to the top of the standings.

It is better to let Neymar recover on his own so he can be free from the injury he is currently experiencing. Because there are not many remaining matches and PSG are also at the top of the standings by obtaining quite fantastic points, making it difficult for rivals to catch up with PSG's points in these two remaining matches. Apart from that, I also believe that PSG can still win without Neymar in the team and besides, the next two matches will not make it difficult for PSG because the opponents are not strong enough.

PSG is a strong enough team without Neymar. And they are not dependent on Neymar's performance. PSG can win against any team if Mbappe and Messi play well. PSG will play just two more matches this season. PSG will play against Strasbourg and Clermont Fort. These two teams are not very strong. And so I don't think PSG's performance will deteriorate in any way even if Neymar is not with the squad for these two matches. But Neymar is likely to be in the starting XI for the next two matches if he is fully healthy. PSG management will not keep him on the bench.

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I don't know if there would be a serious offer to sign Neymar this summer. He has been linked with Manchester United the most maybe but I don't feel like their priority is Neymar right now. Their priority is to sign a solid centre-forward such as Kane. They will be ready to spend the amount needed for this transfer as well so spending a lot of money for Neymar transfer might not be very probable after that.

I'm thinking of Chelsea as a bigger candidate as they are ready to spend a lot of money just as they have done so far. But let's see. As he is injury-prone teams might be hesitant about going for him now.

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Quote from: Davian144 on May 25, 2023, 05:59:50 AM

Quote from: klidex on May 25, 2023, 05:35:00 AM

For me Neymar's position is very difficult after the injury at that time made a bad performance and I'm also not sure if Neymar has really recovered and there are other clubs who want to pay him a high salary on the one hand Neymar is in a state of injury that is not necessarily fully recovered.
I don't fully expect Neymar to be able to provide something good for Paris Saint-Germain because Mbappe is enough to bring Paris Saint-Germain to the top of the standings.

It is better to let Neymar recover on his own so he can be free from the injury he is currently experiencing. Because there are not many remaining matches and PSG are also at the top of the standings by obtaining quite fantastic points, making it difficult for rivals to catch up with PSG's points in these two remaining matches. Apart from that, I also believe that PSG can still win without Neymar in the team and besides, the next two matches will not make it difficult for PSG because the opponents are not strong enough.

They have already confirmed the title, so there is no reason to force Neymar now. Indeed if they lost the last 2 matches and their closest current club Lens will win the last 2 matches it will be the same points. But the productivity that Paris Saint Germain has, I'm not sure Lens will be able to catch up with it.
They should start thinking about their future now, because they need a very big change for next season and they can try again especially in the Champions League.

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