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Quote from: bekti3 on May 26, 2023, 04:13:32 PM

Quote from: emrecemsan on May 26, 2023, 12:09:56 PM

I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.

Lens' current performance really deserves to be appreciated regardless of what they are really different from the previous season because this season they have experienced a good improvement.
Now they only need 2 points to make sure they are free from the rarity of Marseille and actually for the remaining 2 matches and only need 2 points it could be even more because seeing from their current condition they will only be against Ajaccio and Auxerre I think they will take full points . Even against Ajaccio tomorrow could be the answer to ensure they qualify for next season's Champions League.

I don't think Lens players are currently concerned about how difficult or easy it'll be for them to compete in both the French Ligue 1 and also in the UEFA Champions League and that I think is very understandable because very few persons expected them to finish second in the league this season.
Lens players and fans are currently enjoying their achievement so whatever happens next season will be deliberated on later.

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Quote from: Zlantann on May 26, 2023, 12:31:15 PM

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That is one of the reasons and also one of the factors why Ligue 1 is neither attractive nor competitive from other top leagues. Now Paris Saint Germain's financial ability is far from the other clubs that are here, that's what makes it difficult for them to make at least their strength equal to Paris Saint Germain. For example, we can see how they are in the Champions League, with in fact the opponents they face have the same strength, even more than Paris Saint Germain, they can't even speak more in the Champions League by repeatedly failing in that competition.

I thought things will change in the French League this season but it turned out to be the same old PSG-dominated league. Until other League One clubs have access to the kind of funds PSG have, they will not compete with them effectively. More investors maybe from the middle east need to be attracted to league one to give them the needed financial backup to sign world-class players that will compete with the squad in PSG.

It is undeniable that there are still some changes and competition in Ligue 1, but that only happens for clubs other than PSG. Like this season, Lens has appeared extraordinary or maybe the performance reversal that has happened for Strasbourg this season, but all of that will still be covered by PSG because, consciously or not, PSG is like the main focus of Ligue 1 with its players and finances.
Things like this still won't change in my opinion as long as there is no one to compete in terms of the finances of the club in Ligue 1 because you believe it or not money has to be beaten by money too, even though there are several conditions such as Lille which gave a surprise in the previous few seasons , but such a thing would not happen for the first few times in the continuing season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 26, 2023, 02:39:24 PM

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Also, that's better for PSG if they lose Messi and Neymar at the end of this season because even these players have to get high salaries and maybe instead of paying high salaries to these players, PSG can find younger and better players to have a balanced team.

100% true. Even though PSG is a cheating club and they have no problem bypassing the FFP, getting rid of players that are too expensive and do not give a result corresponding to spending on them is quite reasonable. PSG should follow City's path - they should buy fresh stars, not retirees and go through (buy-try-sell if they don't fit) until they have a decent team. According to this model, City were able to assemble a strong team, why not PSG follow their path.

Don't forget that PSG has a dismissal option which is quite terrible if we look at it. they don't give much time to the coach because if they have trouble in a few games then the coach will be sacked and that is true after these few seasons that happened at psg.

Apart from that I think if psg follows City's strategy then they will be able to become a stronger team in the coming seasons. they just need to change the buying scheme in the upcoming transfer window where young players are more targeted to become their prey than buying star players with old ages.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on May 26, 2023, 12:09:56 PM

I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.

Yeah, Ligue 1 is mostly unpredictable and having shortage of finances which helps teams for staying at the same level for few time as happen to Lille they were champions and then struggling for the top spots there were no hopes from Lens for this performance, but they have done against all odds and now having second spot and Champions League qualification as well which need good strength in squad for next season as well which needs good funding which is doubtful as we have few good teams are also struggling like Monaco and Marseille for challenging to leaders PSG.

In this season we have problems for few teams which were mostly doing good like Rennes, Nice and Lyon they have the worst time in early half of this season and now recovering which is not as par their requirements Monaco also having poor run in last few matches which is not good sign for them with most chances now they can face exit from UEFA events.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on May 26, 2023, 12:09:56 PM

I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.

Lens' current performance really deserves to be appreciated regardless of what they are really different from the previous season because this season they have experienced a good improvement.
Now they only need 2 points to make sure they are free from the rarity of Marseille and actually for the remaining 2 matches and only need 2 points it could be even more because seeing from their current condition they will only be against Ajaccio and Auxerre I think they will take full points . Even against Ajaccio tomorrow could be the answer to ensure they qualify for next season's Champions League.

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Quote from: Ratash on May 26, 2023, 01:05:50 PM

Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.

Rennes still have hope here, because the opponent of Lille in the next match will be Nantes who are currently in the relegation zone. They are in 17th place with 33 points, 1 point different from Auxerre who is above them. So, they will play with full attack against Lille. I can say that Lille match against Nantes will result in at least a draw, why? because if they (Nantes) manage to get 1 point and win the last match, they can still escape the relegation zone and bring Auxerre into the relegation zone through the goal difference they each have. But this is just an assumption, because after seeing the betting market, I'm not sure that this match will result in a draw Cheesy

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 26, 2023, 11:58:25 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 08:30:05 AM

Whenever I visit the French League topic I see many people just talking about PSG and other people are complaining because they think in French League other teams got no chance and the only team got enough chance for the trophy is PSG because of the money they spent and unfortunately we do have the same situation in Bundesliga.
If other teams get more investors we can have a more interesting league in which other teams can race with PSG for the title.

That is one of the reasons and also one of the factors why Ligue 1 is neither attractive nor competitive from other top leagues. Now Paris Saint Germain's financial ability is far from the other clubs that are here, that's what makes it difficult for them to make at least their strength equal to Paris Saint Germain. For example, we can see how they are in the Champions League, with in fact the opponents they face have the same strength, even more than Paris Saint Germain, they can't even speak more in the Champions League by repeatedly failing in that competition.

In last few years, we have big fall in few leagues in UEFA which is surely the biggest concern for them specially here in French League we have no attraction mostly it's PSG which is controlling, and few other teams are giving tough time for the remaining spots which is quite boring, so now it's time for relative authorities to work on this and have good package for the investors which bring quality players and increase performance of the clubs which create good entertainment and competition as well.

In this year we have Lens which is currently at second spot otherwise mostly teams are regular at these spots without any challenge just because of this all PSG is also having not better results in Champions League because their dominance in this league is giving them not competition which helps them for Champions League title.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 26, 2023, 02:39:24 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 12:46:07 PM

Also, that's better for PSG if they lose Messi and Neymar at the end of this season because even these players have to get high salaries and maybe instead of paying high salaries to these players, PSG can find younger and better players to have a balanced team.

100% true. Even though PSG is a cheating club and they have no problem bypassing the FFP, getting rid of players that are too expensive and do not give a result corresponding to spending on them is quite reasonable. PSG should follow City's path - they should buy fresh stars, not retirees and go through (buy-try-sell if they don't fit) until they have a decent team. According to this model, City were able to assemble a strong team, why not PSG follow their path.

Now FFP is just a joke with mostly clubs in few countries are under control of Arab Sheikhs, and they are doing things which are best for them and no FFP rules are applying for them which is surely creating mess-up, and we are unable to have the best players from academies to join clubs and give them best now mostly clubs are buying players with huge funds and winning trophies like we have PSG and Manchester City with few more clubs are now going under their control which is surely going to have decline in quality as well.

PSG policy is surely never been ideal even after spending huge funds they need to work on their strategy if they want to win things in better way, mostly they are falling out from Champions League badly even having double in domestic.

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Quote from: Ratash on May 26, 2023, 01:05:50 PM

Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.

Even then, Rennes had to work hard to overthrow Monaco in the match later. because after all, Monaco will not allow their position to be taken over by a team that is below their ranking. So, this match will be a fairly competitive match even though Rennes is the favorite for the bookies in terms of odds. but that does not mean Monaco will be easily defeated by the home team. after all, these two teams have several injured players who are likely to be absent in the match later.

In the other match, Lille will host Nantes. 1 point difference from Rennes, Paulo Fonseca's squad will not waste the momentum playing at his own base to subvert his opponent, moreover, on paper Lille is far superior to Nantes, which in fact is ranked 17th. well, it seems difficult for Rennes to overtake the ranking occupied by Lille, as well as Monaco who don't want their position to be taken over by Lille. So, to find out more, let's just wait for this match to be held.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on May 26, 2023, 11:52:41 AM

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Whenever I visit the French League topic I see many people just talking about PSG and other people are complaining because they think in French League other teams got no chance and the only team got enough chance for the trophy is PSG because of the money they spent and unfortunately we do have the same situation in Bundesliga.
If other teams get more investors we can have a more interesting league in which other teams can race with PSG for the title.

Everyone is just talking facts not just speculation, so discussing PSG because we know that at this time PSG is likely to win the league this season doesn't mean that other clubs don't have a chance for that, but we'll see again for this season it's difficult to stop PSG even no one is stopping him because the distance in points is difficult to chase, especially when there are two more matches left at the end of this season, PSG will win the league this season and we are talking about facts, not just speculation.

I think next season PSG could have other competitors to win the league this season, for example, Lens, which we have seen this season, Lens is playing well and becoming a competitor for PSG, but not this season, I will see how LENS plays next season. also how can LENS survive in the UCL too, I will also be happy if there is another club that wins ligue 1 apart from PSG next season. Wink

With the type of players that PSG have, this team will never lose in League One. A PSG side that has won most of the matches and will continue to do so and is a well-deserved Ligue 1 title. Are Neymar and Lionel Messi really leaving the PSG team? If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know.

You are so wrong, the players like Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar can't help this team at all when the team is not balanced they have problems in other positions. Getting the best forwards in the world is not going to help you and the only thing you will get is the benefits from sponsors so that they can earn more money, rather they should get some better defenders and especially a better coach so that they can earn more money.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 12:46:07 PM

Also, that's better for PSG if they lose Messi and Neymar at the end of this season because even these players have to get high salaries and maybe instead of paying high salaries to these players, PSG can find younger and better players to have a balanced team.

100% true. Even though PSG is a cheating club and they have no problem bypassing the FFP, getting rid of players that are too expensive and do not give a result corresponding to spending on them is quite reasonable. PSG should follow City's path - they should buy fresh stars, not retirees and go through (buy-try-sell if they don't fit) until they have a decent team. According to this model, City were able to assemble a strong team, why not PSG follow their path.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 26, 2023, 11:38:04 AM

I think next season PSG could have other competitors to win the league this season, for example, Lens, which we have seen this season, Lens is playing well and becoming a competitor for PSG, but not this season, I will see how LENS plays next season. also how can LENS survive in the UCL too, I will also be happy if there is another club that wins ligue 1 apart from PSG next season. Wink

Lens success become new competitor for PSG in this season although can't stopping PSG for winning Ligue 1 tittle, but I don't sure with Lens has capacity for consistent performance next season. Still remember with Lille success won Ligue 1 tittle season 2020/21 but when participating in Champion League faced difficult until loss opportunity with domestic league by upcoming season finish on top ten position.

Right not still difficult looking any compete teams can stopping PSG dominance in Ligue 1, but Lens has made little competitive until matchday 36 PSG can't celebrate their Ligue 1 tittle and need waiting for matchday 37.

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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 26, 2023, 10:06:50 AM

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The French League is ending soon and for many teams like PSG it was not a good season, PSG aimed to win the champions league but in the end, they just won the French League and that's all they could do while even after winning the trophy they are not happy because at the end of the season, Messi and Neymar are both leaving PSG to other teams and I expect to see many other superstar players also leave PSG because the bad results they got and unhappy fans. I think they need to choose a new coach and start hiring players for the next season even as soon as possible.

Indeed, PSG will only be able to win the Ligue 1 title if they cannot overhaul their existing line-up for next season. In fact, this incident has happened many times and it's still difficult for PSG to win the highest European competition title. Maybe if Neymar and Messi leave PSG it will be something that will definitely have a very detrimental effect on PSG because now the star player is only Kylian Mbappe.

With the current squad, of course PSG will have no trouble winning back Ligue 1 next season, the problem is they will still be eliminated if they still use the same squad for the champions league. PSG management must immediately go out to find several candidates for new coaches and they also have to compete with several other top European teams to get talented players who are currently the targets of several of these clubs.

Also, that's better for PSG if they lose Messi and Neymar at the end of this season because even these players have to get high salaries and maybe instead of paying high salaries to these players, PSG can find younger and better players to have a balanced team.

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Quote from: hahay on May 26, 2023, 11:42:42 AM

The match between Rennes against Monaco looks like it will be a very interesting match and of course an important match for both of them, because Rennes and Monaco are still in competition to finish in fourth and fifth positions. Also, the gap in points between Moncao and Rennes is three points but there is Lille in between them.

I personally still don't want to imagine and/or calculate their points mathematically, because of course whoever wins will have a very good chance of staying in a better position. Therefore, of course, the match between Rennes against Monaco this weekend might be able to determine their position until the end, it is very interesting to look forward to.

The game is an important match for both teams. A win for Monaco will give them an automatic Europa League slot but a loss can take them out of any European competition totally. Rennes has a better goal difference (27), while Monaco has (15) so a win for Rennes will take them to the same points as Monaco with a greater goal difference. Which means they will displace Monaco from the fourth position. All these analyses will also depend on the outcome of the game between LOSC and Nantes.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 26, 2023, 11:58:25 AM

That is one of the reasons and also one of the factors why Ligue 1 is neither attractive nor competitive from other top leagues. Now Paris Saint Germain's financial ability is far from the other clubs that are here, that's what makes it difficult for them to make at least their strength equal to Paris Saint Germain. For example, we can see how they are in the Champions League, with in fact the opponents they face have the same strength, even more than Paris Saint Germain, they can't even speak more in the Champions League by repeatedly failing in that competition.

I thought things will change in the French League this season but it turned out to be the same old PSG-dominated league. Until other League One clubs have access to the kind of funds PSG have, they will not compete with them effectively. More investors maybe from the middle east need to be attracted to league one to give them the needed financial backup to sign world-class players that will compete with the squad in PSG.

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I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 08:30:05 AM

Whenever I visit the French League topic I see many people just talking about PSG and other people are complaining because they think in French League other teams got no chance and the only team got enough chance for the trophy is PSG because of the money they spent and unfortunately we do have the same situation in Bundesliga.
If other teams get more investors we can have a more interesting league in which other teams can race with PSG for the title.

That is one of the reasons and also one of the factors why Ligue 1 is neither attractive nor competitive from other top leagues. Now Paris Saint Germain's financial ability is far from the other clubs that are here, that's what makes it difficult for them to make at least their strength equal to Paris Saint Germain. For example, we can see how they are in the Champions League, with in fact the opponents they face have the same strength, even more than Paris Saint Germain, they can't even speak more in the Champions League by repeatedly failing in that competition.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 26, 2023, 11:38:04 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 08:30:05 AM

Whenever I visit the French League topic I see many people just talking about PSG and other people are complaining because they think in French League other teams got no chance and the only team got enough chance for the trophy is PSG because of the money they spent and unfortunately we do have the same situation in Bundesliga.
If other teams get more investors we can have a more interesting league in which other teams can race with PSG for the title.

Everyone is just talking facts not just speculation, so discussing PSG because we know that at this time PSG is likely to win the league this season doesn't mean that other clubs don't have a chance for that, but we'll see again for this season it's difficult to stop PSG even no one is stopping him because the distance in points is difficult to chase, especially when there are two more matches left at the end of this season, PSG will win the league this season and we are talking about facts, not just speculation.

I think next season PSG could have other competitors to win the league this season, for example, Lens, which we have seen this season, Lens is playing well and becoming a competitor for PSG, but not this season, I will see how LENS plays next season. also how can LENS survive in the UCL too, I will also be happy if there is another club that wins ligue 1 apart from PSG next season. Wink

With the type of players that PSG have, this team will never lose in League One. A PSG side that has won most of the matches and will continue to do so and is a well-deserved Ligue 1 title. Are Neymar and Lionel Messi really leaving the PSG team? If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know.

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The match between Rennes against Monaco looks like it will be a very interesting match and of course an important match for both of them, because Rennes and Monaco are still in competition to finish in fourth and fifth positions. Also, the gap in points between Moncao and Rennes is three points but there is Lille in between them.

I personally still don't want to imagine and/or calculate their points mathematically, because of course whoever wins will have a very good chance of staying in a better position. Therefore, of course, the match between Rennes against Monaco this weekend might be able to determine their position until the end, it is very interesting to look forward to.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 08:30:05 AM

Whenever I visit the French League topic I see many people just talking about PSG and other people are complaining because they think in French League other teams got no chance and the only team got enough chance for the trophy is PSG because of the money they spent and unfortunately we do have the same situation in Bundesliga.
If other teams get more investors we can have a more interesting league in which other teams can race with PSG for the title.

Everyone is just talking facts not just speculation, so discussing PSG because we know that at this time PSG is likely to win the league this season doesn't mean that other clubs don't have a chance for that, but we'll see again for this season it's difficult to stop PSG even no one is stopping him because the distance in points is difficult to chase, especially when there are two more matches left at the end of this season, PSG will win the league this season and we are talking about facts, not just speculation.

I think next season PSG could have other competitors to win the league this season, for example, Lens, which we have seen this season, Lens is playing well and becoming a competitor for PSG, but not this season, I will see how LENS plays next season. also how can LENS survive in the UCL too, I will also be happy if there is another club that wins ligue 1 apart from PSG next season. Wink

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