Topic: Fuck: SegWit, LN, Blockstream, Core, Adam Back, and GMazwell - page 6. (Read 46265 times)

Now take the piss out of me when I'm posting drunk and giving it large.    

Very good.

If you put a hundred economists in a room and asked them to change a light bulb, the only thing that would happen is that they would not be able to agree how to change it.

I like it when I am able to learn from posters. I am being introduced to a lot of new theoretical concepts, and it does take a while for me to get my head around them even though I consider myself above average intelligence.

However, I like to engage in my own critical thinking rather than treat the words of others like I should not question the bible.

Those who are obviously of superior intelligence would not even be able to recognise their own ego if they looked in a mirror. Lacking patience and being short tempered with others who don't seem to quickly grasp their concepts is a recognisable sign of intelligence. However, it does display a lack of emotional quality. Many have made such a critical analysis of myself.

This is not a comment on one particular individual, it applies to many. All I am asking is that whilst I do like to learn from others, they should realise that it may take me longer to learn new concepts then it used to as my brain pathways have been forged through aging. I'm not going to take anyone elses word as absolute truth. I will still try to perform my own critical thinking, and I try to remain open to people who criticise or point out the absurdity of my assertions. I am as fallable as anyone else.

The problem with so-called experts, they are often wrong. They have their own agenda that has not yet been revealed. I take the view of the experts with a pinch of salt rather than blind obedience. Anyone can read an expert's paper on a subject. Afterwards it is "par for the course" that those who have read the paper to debate among themselves hoping for new insights, discovery of what the agenda(s) are, etc.

You attacking everyone claiming we are all ignorance, when you are an economic illiterate is hilarious.

Macroeconomics economists failed to see/predict the 2008 recession, dot-com boom, early 1990s recession, early 1980s recession, stagflation of the 1970s.

Microeconomics economists (Austrian school of economics, libertarians, etc) saw all these economic disaster coming and their warnings were ignored by the vested-interest media and politicians.

Just give up attacking those who don't agree with your agenda and leave us all to continue our research.

So when I point out that you and everyone in this thread doesn't know anything about economics and haven't read any books on the subject I'm a troll.  And the only response rather than putting up evidence that I am wrong (like claiming to read even ONE book on economics) you each take turns making ad homimen attacks?  

And now I am not only an anti bu and r/btc troll but I also troll core but I am a core troller AND blockstream shill?  And you have nothing whatsoever to back up any of your claims?

Alex.  You don't know anything about bitcoin, why are you spending the precious time you have left in this world on a internet form in a thread with a bunch of guys that don't know anything about bitcoin, perpetuating mythical beliefs and calling people that show you are wrong stupid shills?

Why do you have so much time to waste like this?

Samson Mow‏: Exciting to hear @bcoinio w/ $300k Bitmain investment
Jihan Wu‏: Samson is a liar. Bitmain paid no money into Bcoin.io yet.

Samson's known on twitter as a troll and Blockstream shill.
Everywhere this guy goes you can expect trolling, lying and backstabbing.
Exactly the kind of guy Blockstream would like to hire.

Still, 'Chief Strategy Officer' is just hilarious, as if Blockstream needs even more strategy on lying and trolling.

Adam Back, Greg Maxwell, Luke Jr, Samson Mao.
This is like the Anti-Satoshi Foundation.
The Blockstream sewage system is now complete.

He used to work for BTCC, some say he was fired, some say he was politely asked to leave.
Blockstream probably hired him to help build their own mining operations.

Behind all the theatrics, the real battle is still in the hash rate.

You did make that claim.  I can go quote it if you want.  So, its not ad hominem, its pointing out facts.

The one is the poster that allegedly read 100 books on the subject of economics and writes for mises but has no understand of macro-economics and thinks rubbish theory.

Another ad hominem.  Here's the thing.  It's not trolling to point out that you don't actually understand the subject you are speaking about.  And again when you point out what I am saying is retarded, but I am speaking about the macro-economic implications of bitcoin, and you admittedly don't know anything about macro-economics, its only your ignorance you displaying. 

If you weren't a huge troll, I would have a serious conversation with you.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the guy who claimed that increasing the transaction
capacity damages Bitcoin (not even Core is that retarded).

Seems to be the only response is ad hominen attack.

You have people in here saying that core devs know nothing about economics.  But the people in thread claiming this perfectly demonstrate they have never read a single book on the subject (except the poster that says the have read 100 economics books and writes for mises.org but thinks macro-economics as a whole is rubbish) telling all the active developers of bitcoin that they don't know what they are doing and that raising the block size is no problem.  

You have people in this thread spreading ridiculous lies about LN and LT's saying things like you need to be on the internet in order to make a transaction.  And saying they are so expensive and inefficient one is better to use bitcoin or cash.

It's just a thread full of people that have no understand of the technology or economics.

Instead of calling me an idiot maybe you might have a dialogue about the content...but you can't can you, because you don't understand or know anything about the ACTUAL content.  

No one in this thread is a Satoshi fan, everyone is here to assert opinions and to refuse to do actual research and homework.  

Why are you all learning about LN from each other, compounding your own lies and ignorance, instead of the experts on the subject? There are many lecture videos and papers on the subject by experts of it.

Please, it is high time for you to stop being an idiot. 

Nobody in this thread understands what economic theories are.

Nobody here gives a fat fiddler's fuck about your goofy economic theories.  I was asking about Samson Mow. 

This thread is full me pointing examples and give evidence showing that ya'll especially you, are only BU and r/btc and big blocker supporters because you don't know anything about economics and don't have any understanding of how bitcoin actually works.  Who do you think you are convincing with your bullshit?

This thread is FULL of me doing this.

isnt this the guy that told lies about Bitmain etc.  what was the story?

You can't make this stuff up:

https://twitter.com/Blockstream/status/852162114701504512
7:10 AM - 12 Apr 2017
@Blockstream: Welcome Samson Mow, @Excellion, as Chief Strategy Officer of Blockstream!

And how is this worse than using bitcoin? What problem do you think we are trying to solve and what better solution are you proposing.

You've gone full retard.   You are your avatar. I'm making fun of everyone in this thread for getting their information on LN from this poster.  What the fuck are you all doing, there are numerous videos and papers by the actual people who are creating this technology.  Why would you get your information from someone like this?  

You can write down the various signatures on a piece of paper, however you will need to pay for both the paper and the ink to write down the various communications between the two parties (channels). Multiple messages need to be exchanged, including a "handshake" agreement as to what the new state of the LN channel will be, and these messages must be exchanged in a very specific order. If paper is used, then you will need to either handwrite or print the various messages, if the messages are printed, then you must also pay for a portion of the printing equipment. If the font/print is too small to easily read, then scanning equipment will also need to be paid for. The time it takes to print (either with a printer or by hand) the various messages will take time (which is worth money). If you are not physically located in the same location as the other person, payment will need to be made to send the paper containing the messages to the other party. If paper is used to exchange the necessary messages to change the state of a LN channel, then you are almost certainly at risk of the other party of employing a $5 wrench to steal your bitcoin, so some amount of trust will be necessary.

You also have the option of blinking in morse code to the other party in order to exchange the various necessary messages, however this would be very expensive in terms of time.

If you have the option of exchanging messages via pieces of paper, then you will probably be better of exchanging a $10 bill.

Yes.

The difference is they are cryptographically guaranteed, they cannot be reneged on, which is the ENTIRE POINT. now you know what a lightning transaction is, and what the hooplah is.