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Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

Even those with comorbidities would fare better, in case they receive two doses of the vaccine. But being overweight and diabetic increases the fatality rate by manytimes, and the vaccine won't be able to reduce it to zero. Those who are vaccinated also need to wear masks and perform social distancing, especially if they have one or more comorbidity. In the end, everyone is responsible for themselves. Please remember that vaccines can only help in our fight against the virus.

The death of people who have got vaccinated is very low. Even if affected the infection isn't that high in the body. Covid-19 affects the lungs. Please stay safe wearing masks and maintaining social distancing. If you get opportunity, get vaccinated. My father was admitted in the hospital and minutes back received the call, he's in ventilator. Everything happened as a result of being careless.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2021, 12:38:29 PM

Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

Even those with comorbidities would fare better, in case they receive two doses of the vaccine. But being overweight and diabetic increases the fatality rate by manytimes, and the vaccine won't be able to reduce it to zero. Those who are vaccinated also need to wear masks and perform social distancing, especially if they have one or more comorbidity. In the end, everyone is responsible for themselves. Please remember that vaccines can only help in our fight against the virus.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 06, 2021, 08:26:27 AM

But the vaccine might not be safe. Phase 3 Clinical trials are not finished for all of those vaccines. Catching the infection and dying from it is a low probability unless you are fat or old af. I don't want to be a lab rat for the big pharma tbh. I'll probably take my chances with covid19 instead.

SputnikV seems to be safer than the rest but I haven't made up my mind yet.

Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 06, 2021, 01:28:54 AM

I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.

There must be a pill that we can take just like when we are having a fever and we get the relief, you know, this involves a lot of money and the pandemic is a good situation for this greedy pharma to make money, we are not anymore living in a safe world, that's because of the greediness of people.

For sure, a pill will be release in the future or there would be another virus that will spread, and they'll continue to make money.

The pharmaceutical will found that pill, but the vaccine can help people have better immune. But of course, without trying to have a healthy life, the vaccine can not work better. I hope the pharmaceutical, hospital, and pharma will not use this pandemic for their own good because it is related to all people in all countries. The government wants to eradicate the virus with many things, including with vaccine, so it needs cooperation with all people by apply the health protocols and vaccinated. But the government can not force people to be vaccinated because that is up to them.

But the vaccine might not be safe. Phase 3 Clinical trials are not finished for all of those vaccines. Catching the infection and dying from it is a low probability unless you are fat or old af. I don't want to be a lab rat for the big pharma tbh. I'll probably take my chances with covid19 instead.

SputnikV seems to be safer than the rest but I haven't made up my mind yet.

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Of course, I don't believe in such things, unless I actually saw the events with my own eyes, in other words, to see is to believe. And not all media reports are pure facts because there are also biases. I have my own understanding of what I know. I just believe more in side effects, which if there is no effect on others can have an effect on you because the components inside the body are different (I am referring to complex studies) such as allergies and other current illnesses.

You need to make your own decision, whether it is beneficial to get vaccinated or not. People who have a history of allergic reaction to vaccines and other medications need to be careful. If the COVID incidence in your country is low, and if the majority of the population is already vaccinated, then there is a chance that you can defer or even refuse vaccination. But for others, I would say that it is more beneficial to get themselves vaccinated. In countries such as India, people have no other choice. Because the infection rate is so high.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 06, 2021, 01:28:54 AM

I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.

There must be a pill that we can take just like when we are having a fever and we get the relief, you know, this involves a lot of money and the pandemic is a good situation for this greedy pharma to make money, we are not anymore living in a safe world, that's because of the greediness of people.

For sure, a pill will be release in the future or there would be another virus that will spread, and they'll continue to make money.

The pharmaceutical will found that pill, but the vaccine can help people have better immune. But of course, without trying to have a healthy life, the vaccine can not work better. I hope the pharmaceutical, hospital, and pharma will not use this pandemic for their own good because it is related to all people in all countries. The government wants to eradicate the virus with many things, including with vaccine, so it needs cooperation with all people by apply the health protocols and vaccinated. But the government can not force people to be vaccinated because that is up to them.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2021, 07:31:14 AM

That doesn't mean that you should believe all the baseless propaganda that has been floating around. One of the biggest opponents of vaccination campaign, Jair Bolsonaro (president of Brazil) claims that if you take a COVID 19 vaccine, then you will turn to an alligator. Let me know if you believe these sort of stuff. Also, in countries such as India, a lot of fake messages are being propagated in Whatsapp and other social media. Some of them claim that if you get admitted in a hospital, then your organs will be stolen.

Of course, I don't believe in such things, unless I actually saw the events with my own eyes, in other words, to see is to believe. And not all media reports are pure facts because there are also biases. I have my own understanding of what I know. I just believe more in side effects, which if there is no effect on others can have an effect on you because the components inside the body are different (I am referring to complex studies) such as allergies and other current illnesses.

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Quote from: Text on June 06, 2021, 06:37:11 AM

Yes, I immediately remembered the Korean movie Deranged in 2012, a medical thriller. After investigating the circumstances, it was discovered that the owner of the pharmacy was the only one who planned everything, they made an infection so that the medicine they would make could be sold. Able to do evil just to get rich. Dazzled by money to be powerful. So neither can we blame others who do not want to believe.

That doesn't mean that you should believe all the baseless propaganda that has been floating around. One of the biggest opponents of vaccination campaign, Jair Bolsonaro (president of Brazil) claims that if you take a COVID 19 vaccine, then you will turn to an alligator. Let me know if you believe these sort of stuff. Also, in countries such as India, a lot of fake messages are being propagated in Whatsapp and other social media. Some of them claim that if you get admitted in a hospital, then your organs will be stolen.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2021, 06:18:58 AM

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.
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Yes, I immediately remembered the Korean movie Deranged in 2012, a medical thriller. After investigating the circumstances, it was discovered that the owner of the pharmacy was the only one who planned everything, they made an infection so that the medicine they would make could be sold. Able to do evil just to get rich. Dazzled by money to be powerful. So neither can we blame others who do not want to believe.

Look in the Philippines, the hospitalization expenses when you are infected with covid are very expensive, where in fact the medicine is not that expensive, not only the Pharma but even the medical practitioners and hospitals are taking advantage of the situation. They are greedy as hell and they don't live according to their purpose.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2021, 06:18:58 AM

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.
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Yes, I immediately remembered the Korean movie Deranged in 2012, a medical thriller. After investigating the circumstances, it was discovered that the owner of the pharmacy was the only one who planned everything, they made an infection so that the medicine they would make could be sold. Able to do evil just to get rich. Dazzled by money to be powerful. So neither can we blame others who do not want to believe.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 06, 2021, 01:28:54 AM

I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.

There must be a pill that we can take just like when we are having a fever and we get the relief, you know, this involves a lot of money and the pandemic is a good situation for this greedy pharma to make money, we are not anymore living in a safe world, that's because of the greediness of people.

For sure, a pill will be release in the future or there would be another virus that will spread, and they'll continue to make money.

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but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?

i was asking my sister how things are when she got covid and seem she is okay and got vaccinated, the day she got the vaccine she felt tired and dizzy whenever she stands. the doctor says she is still going to come back in the next 6 months because the vaccine will not be potent by that time. so another injection for her again. her whole life i guess she has to keep injecting vaccines. the only consolation is that she can now go walk and go to the beach.

The efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine is 95%. That means that there is a small chance of getting infected, even if you had two doses of the vaccine. But even if someone gets infected after getting fully vaccinated, the chances that the infection would result in death is near zero. And unless you guys have another, better option, we need to get vaccinated. And regarding the booster dose, Yes. After 12 months, we need to get a booster shot. Once again, unless there is a better option, we have no other choice.

Majority would really be ending up on that kind of mindset as we dont have any choice and with desperation we would really be ending up on getting vaccination because we do really mind of about securing our self and even with having efficacy is on the high side but it wouldnt really give out assurance for you not to get infected.

How we do wish in getting into those normal days where we are spared of mask and face shield.Dont know if such thing would be effective
and wouldnt put up any risk on worsening the situation.

Lets just hope that this would really be the start on going into those normal days that we do have.

Vaccines is the only hope that we have right now, and with the desperation like what you have said, people who are wishing to have their normal life back will hurrying up to take those shots.

Accuracy like that is really far better and most of us who at first are afraid will now have a wider views in regards to having that vaccines.

Is best to risk now than wait for this virus to hit you first and suffer, worse die becuase of this pandemic.

I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.

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If they already reached herd immunity they can let people go to casinos without a mask, but they should set up a study first, that the percentage of infection and spread is lower and those infected do not fall into the severe category.

They are doing this to attract more people from playing because in the US people are not comfortable wearing a mask and they want more people to go to casinos and play so they can generate income.

Herd immunity will be reached only after many years. In the US, they have so far reported 28 million cases, which represent around 8% of the population. Less than 50% of the population is fully vaccinated. That means that a minimum of 42% remains as vulnerable. Herd immunity can't be achieved, unless this vulnerable population decreases to less than 20%. All that said, I need to ask whether wearing masks is that uncomfortable? Given the current risks, I would wear a mask even at home.

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Joe Biden announced thst people who are vaccinated no need to wear mask and they can go anywhere they want but I don't understand the logic behind it, since the vaccinated people can still act as carrier and spread the virus to unvaccinated people, anyway vaccinated people even getting infected.

So guys be ready for third wave.

Even Joe Biden says to people that they do not need to wear a mask after they vaccinated, we still need to take care of our health and wear the mask, especially if we are in the public area. We do not know if we are safe in the public area or not so it is better to prevent than to cure.

I heard that the vaccinated people can still get infected because the vaccine can not fully protect them. I do not expect to see the third wave, but we all can be in danger if that is really happen.

We are safe even if we took the mask off, provided we are vaccinated, but people around us or our family that does not have the vaccine yet are not safe. There's no 3rd wave for sure unless there's another virus that will come that the vaccine will render useless, but God forbid, it should not happen.

But that will not suggest, even if that person is already vaccinated. I think it is better we still wear a mask to have more protection from the virus. We hope that our family and we can be safe from the virus and carefully take care of our health.

Many people really hope that this pandemic can end soon because it is about 2 years since we see the pandemic kills many people and the new variant attacks the other countries. It makes all countries in a state of alert and emergency, so we really need to be aware of that.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 05, 2021, 01:37:01 AM

The coronavirus will never go away like the flu or chickenpox, but can mutate into a lighter or more severe form. Vaccines can't give you a 100% guarantee that you won't get sick with a mutated strain of the virus and masks can only slow down the spread in public places.

Yet Wearing mask is best for now than wearing nothing right?

and Mask is not just slowing the spread but can stop it actually, If all people will follow wearing masks then the virus will just Die because this cannot infect more and more for the simple reason that no one will be infected anytime soon and virus can only live for 14 days and will die eventually.

But anyway this is about to tell if there comes a 3rd wave in US because of this action they bring against the Corona Virus.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 04, 2021, 01:21:35 AM

Joe Biden announced thst people who are vaccinated no need to wear mask and they can go anywhere they want but I don't understand the logic behind it, since the vaccinated people can still act as carrier and spread the virus to unvaccinated people, anyway vaccinated people even getting infected.

So guys be ready for third wave.

The vaccine serves as is and makes the vaccinated person immune system stronger. So whenever the virus gets in to the vaccinated people it won't give anymore the same strong symptoms as before and the effect of it becomes weaker.

That's why they're good to go even without wearing mask as long as there's a massive vaccination has rolled out onto a certain area. I hope that most of us will have that place where there's no need to wear mask. I'm getting tired of it. Sad

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 04, 2021, 01:21:35 AM

Joe Biden announced thst people who are vaccinated no need to wear mask and they can go anywhere they want but I don't understand the logic behind it, since the vaccinated people can still act as carrier and spread the virus to unvaccinated people, anyway vaccinated people even getting infected.

So guys be ready for third wave.

We as concern must act on it, let's now be going on those places where people are not wearing masks so we will not contribute in the spread.

And also i know that we as human must not be letting the wrong coming towards us.

also there are place for gambling via online so why need to go in casino houses for now when we can just be safe for a while until the virus totally gone.

The coronavirus will never go away like the flu or chickenpox, but can mutate into a lighter or more severe form. Vaccines can't give you a 100% guarantee that you won't get sick with a mutated strain of the virus and masks can only slow down the spread in public places.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 04, 2021, 01:21:35 AM

Joe Biden announced thst people who are vaccinated no need to wear mask and they can go anywhere they want but I don't understand the logic behind it, since the vaccinated people can still act as carrier and spread the virus to unvaccinated people, anyway vaccinated people even getting infected.

So guys be ready for third wave.

We as concern must act on it, let's now be going on those places where people are not wearing masks so we will not contribute in the spread.

And also i know that we as human must not be letting the wrong coming towards us.

also there are place for gambling via online so why need to go in casino houses for now when we can just be safe for a while until the virus totally gone.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 04, 2021, 01:21:35 AM

Joe Biden announced thst people who are vaccinated no need to wear mask and they can go anywhere they want but I don't understand the logic behind it, since the vaccinated people can still act as carrier and spread the virus to unvaccinated people, anyway vaccinated people even getting infected.

So guys be ready for third wave.

Aren't we already in the third wave ?
As per many analyst, we will have fourth and fifth wave of covid-19 before it will eventually cool off. But how many will not be with us once the covid-19 is finally finished. Sad

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 04, 2021, 01:21:35 AM

Joe Biden announced thst people who are vaccinated no need to wear mask and they can go anywhere they want but I don't understand the logic behind it, since the vaccinated people can still act as carrier and spread the virus to unvaccinated people, anyway vaccinated people even getting infected.

So guys be ready for third wave.

Whats the logic behind this? They are trying out to see if the current vaccine is really capable on letting us go back into our normal lives.
Neither what would be the intention then it would be primarily for peoples sake because honestly having into this kind of situation
for a while now is really shouldnt really be experiencing globally.We do need to go back into our normal lives where face mask and face shield should be worn.Im just been worried about into those people who are being test subjects for this cause. 100% efficacy is impossible but lets
see on how things to turn out.

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