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Quote from: Saisher on June 02, 2021, 06:54:19 PM

It's the casino's choice if they want to implement this, as long as it is compliant to health protocol and the majority of people in that area are already vaccinated,

Compliant to health protocol? do you understand that even the vaccinated people are not 100% safe that they will not become a carrier or asymptomatic ? meaning yeah they are already safe from virus but the people around them?

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they can create herd immunity in that area but they should ready to quick their decision if there are another wave of attack, the virus is mutating and the vaccine in our system might not keep up with a new mutation.

I think it's better if they will put specific area where those vaccinated that don't wear mask will be positioned , and those who are not vaccinated and wearing mask will be on the other side so they will not be having any connection at all.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 03, 2021, 03:11:26 AM

I do not get this obsession with being maskless. I mean why do people want to remove their mask so much?

I get that some people find it "uncomfortable" but let's be honest

Uncomfortable is the right word. Specially during summer. I have to wear mask all the time while working. After 10-15 minutes my face start to sweat. This is very annoying. I try to force myself to wipe the sweat with napkin but not with hand. But from time to time I wipe it with my hand - and who know how many bacterias are there. There is a chance that there is covid on my palm and I'm doing even worse by rubbing it to my face. Just try to wear mask for a whole day and tell how you feel.

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I do not get this obsession with being maskless. I mean why do people want to remove their mask so much? What is the purpose of a mask? It is to prevent either you getting covid or you spreading covid, that is the only reason right? So if I am wearing a mask there is a big chance that I will be safe or others will be safe from me, that's something I love to do, I would do that for years if it means I would be saving others or myself from death.

Why are we rushing into being maskless, why do people want it so much? I get that some people find it "uncomfortable" but let's be honest, those people would be the first ones to wear it, people who do not mind it are not the reason, people who do not want it are the reason we have laws to mask people anyway. It's weird, you tell someone "would you wear a mask to prevent yourself or others from dying" and they reply with no, what type of people are these?

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It's the casino's choice if they want to implement this, as long as it is compliant to health protocol and the majority of people in that area are already vaccinated, they can create herd immunity in that area but they should ready to quick their decision if there are another wave of attack, the virus is mutating and the vaccine in our system might not keep up with a new mutation.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 02, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?

i was asking my sister how things are when she got covid and seem she is okay and got vaccinated, the day she got the vaccine she felt tired and dizzy whenever she stands. the doctor says she is still going to come back in the next 6 months because the vaccine will not be potent by that time. so another injection for her again. her whole life i guess she has to keep injecting vaccines. the only consolation is that she can now go walk and go to the beach.

The efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine is 95%. That means that there is a small chance of getting infected, even if you had two doses of the vaccine. But even if someone gets infected after getting fully vaccinated, the chances that the infection would result in death is near zero. And unless you guys have another, better option, we need to get vaccinated. And regarding the booster dose, Yes. After 12 months, we need to get a booster shot. Once again, unless there is a better option, we have no other choice.

Majority would really be ending up on that kind of mindset as we dont have any choice and with desperation we would really be ending up on getting vaccination because we do really mind of about securing our self and even with having efficacy is on the high side but it wouldnt really give out assurance for you not to get infected.

How we do wish in getting into those normal days where we are spared of mask and face shield.Dont know if such thing would be effective
and wouldnt put up any risk on worsening the situation.

Lets just hope that this would really be the start on going into those normal days that we do have.

Vaccines is the only hope that we have right now, and with the desperation like what you have said, people who are wishing to have their normal life back will hurrying up to take those shots.

Accuracy like that is really far better and most of us who at first are afraid will now have a wider views in regards to having that vaccines.

Is best to risk now than wait for this virus to hit you first and suffer, worse die becuase of this pandemic.

Some would really be mindful on taking a shot because of the side effects and not really minding about being safe from covid-19.

Some are still observing if its really effective and doesnt impose some side effects then that might be the time they would consider to take a shot.

Even myself do still wait up for those factors before i do consider on taking a shot.

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Quote from: Hamphser on June 02, 2021, 01:41:40 PM

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Quote from: electronicash on June 02, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?

i was asking my sister how things are when she got covid and seem she is okay and got vaccinated, the day she got the vaccine she felt tired and dizzy whenever she stands. the doctor says she is still going to come back in the next 6 months because the vaccine will not be potent by that time. so another injection for her again. her whole life i guess she has to keep injecting vaccines. the only consolation is that she can now go walk and go to the beach.

The efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine is 95%. That means that there is a small chance of getting infected, even if you had two doses of the vaccine. But even if someone gets infected after getting fully vaccinated, the chances that the infection would result in death is near zero. And unless you guys have another, better option, we need to get vaccinated. And regarding the booster dose, Yes. After 12 months, we need to get a booster shot. Once again, unless there is a better option, we have no other choice.

Majority would really be ending up on that kind of mindset as we dont have any choice and with desperation we would really be ending up on getting vaccination because we do really mind of about securing our self and even with having efficacy is on the high side but it wouldnt really give out assurance for you not to get infected.

How we do wish in getting into those normal days where we are spared of mask and face shield.Dont know if such thing would be effective
and wouldnt put up any risk on worsening the situation.

Lets just hope that this would really be the start on going into those normal days that we do have.

Vaccines is the only hope that we have right now, and with the desperation like what you have said, people who are wishing to have their normal life back will hurrying up to take those shots.

Accuracy like that is really far better and most of us who at first are afraid will now have a wider views in regards to having that vaccines.

Is best to risk now than wait for this virus to hit you first and suffer, worse die becuase of this pandemic.

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Quote from: molsewid on June 02, 2021, 12:16:28 PM

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It's too early to implement this the whole world is not yet out of the wood yet, the virus is still mutating, there are reports of the new variant of the virus and it could still infect even if the person is already fully vaccinated and can have a severe symptoms, and if this happens there will be a new wave of infection, by wearing the mask and following the health protocol we are safe and can stop infection this is not the right time to relax.

But this vaccine is what we're really waiting to be able to give ourselves, our health the immune system that could fight against the harmful effect of this virus. I guess there's nothing wrong if fully individuals now spared in the casinos as long as the casino institution or casino business building may only allowed to enter their premises all people who are fully vaccinated because if this isn't like this then we'll be worried to thosw gambler who are not yet fully vaccinated coz i felt that they were the one who will deprive in this situation.

Do we know or is there evidence that everyone who enters a casino building is vaccinated?
and what I'm worried about is that even though the rules are required to carry a letter or solid proof that everyone who enters has been vaccinated whether it's true or can be faked just to get into the casino, there is a possibility that something like that could happen.
because what I know is that the results of the covid test can still be faked only for personal interests because many smart people can do anything just for personal gain.
Even though you have been vaccinated, there is nothing wrong with following health protocols before the number of infected becomes very low and the vaccination program is carried out evenly.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 02, 2021, 01:14:43 PM

Quote from: electronicash on June 02, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?

i was asking my sister how things are when she got covid and seem she is okay and got vaccinated, the day she got the vaccine she felt tired and dizzy whenever she stands. the doctor says she is still going to come back in the next 6 months because the vaccine will not be potent by that time. so another injection for her again. her whole life i guess she has to keep injecting vaccines. the only consolation is that she can now go walk and go to the beach.

The efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine is 95%. That means that there is a small chance of getting infected, even if you had two doses of the vaccine. But even if someone gets infected after getting fully vaccinated, the chances that the infection would result in death is near zero. And unless you guys have another, better option, we need to get vaccinated. And regarding the booster dose, Yes. After 12 months, we need to get a booster shot. Once again, unless there is a better option, we have no other choice.

Majority would really be ending up on that kind of mindset as we dont have any choice and with desperation we would really be ending up on getting vaccination because we do really mind of about securing our self and even with having efficacy is on the high side but it wouldnt really give out assurance for you not to get infected.

How we do wish in getting into those normal days where we are spared of mask and face shield.Dont know if such thing would be effective
and wouldnt put up any risk on worsening the situation.

Lets just hope that this would really be the start on going into those normal days that we do have.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 02, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?

i was asking my sister how things are when she got covid and seem she is okay and got vaccinated, the day she got the vaccine she felt tired and dizzy whenever she stands. the doctor says she is still going to come back in the next 6 months because the vaccine will not be potent by that time. so another injection for her again. her whole life i guess she has to keep injecting vaccines. the only consolation is that she can now go walk and go to the beach.

The efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine is 95%. That means that there is a small chance of getting infected, even if you had two doses of the vaccine. But even if someone gets infected after getting fully vaccinated, the chances that the infection would result in death is near zero. And unless you guys have another, better option, we need to get vaccinated. And regarding the booster dose, Yes. After 12 months, we need to get a booster shot. Once again, unless there is a better option, we have no other choice.

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It's too early to implement this the whole world is not yet out of the wood yet, the virus is still mutating, there are reports of the new variant of the virus and it could still infect even if the person is already fully vaccinated and can have a severe symptoms, and if this happens there will be a new wave of infection, by wearing the mask and following the health protocol we are safe and can stop infection this is not the right time to relax.

But this vaccine is what we're really waiting to be able to give ourselves, our health the immune system that could fight against the harmful effect of this virus. I guess there's nothing wrong if fully individuals now spared in the casinos as long as the casino institution or casino business building may only allowed to enter their premises all people who are fully vaccinated because if this isn't like this then we'll be worried to thosw gambler who are not yet fully vaccinated coz i felt that they were the one who will deprive in this situation.

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Quote from: pinggoki on June 02, 2021, 04:51:41 AM

Wow! Good to know that those persons who are already got vaccine and vaccinated already will be able to play normally in the Casinos over Las Vegas! It is more comfortable to a gambler to play and gamble with the normal set-up than having masks and face shield while playing, for me it is kind of irritable especially for those who are having eye glasses. But I am hoping that although the gamblers that will play in the casinos although they are vaccinated already they must follow the rules and regulations for the sake of their safety.

It's good to have some upside for being vaccinated. Usually there is one or two days of side effects after the vaccine, so having now bonuses is great. Eventually we all should be vaccinated, but until this happens we need to divide people. In my country unfortunately it is still mandatory for everybody to wear masks. I hope it will only be a matter of weeks until this changes too.

Safety protocols as far as I see that implementations of wearing mask and face shields, The government in each countries wanted to contained the virus in any possible ways that they've known,

Good for those gamblers who already vaccinated they can enjoy now the physical enjoyment of playing their favorite games without using anything,

They are free to enjoy how they've love playing it as long as they are responsible enough following any safety guidelines of the casino place.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2021, 12:53:20 AM

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I disagree.

Having a strong immune system will never kill its host. People who got infected by the virus and died have weak immune system and medication is not enough to kill the virus. The percentage of getting infected by the virus (COVID-19) when you have a strong immune system is very very low, and if you get infected, mostly you'll recover fast due to your body reaction sending agents to defeat the virus with the help of medication of course.

It would be better if you'll provide scientific proof that strong immune system is a bad one if you'll get infected by the virus, because I'm not convinced.

^ As far as I know, before you will become fully vaccinated, it will take a process of 42 days or 6 weeks for your body to have a strong immune system that immune to the virus. The reason for having a weak immune system because their body can not quickly adopt the process of the vaccine. So I don't think vaccinated can spare their mask in the casino, they are still at risk. Even though they do not have Faceshield but at least a facemask is mandatory because you will never know who will the carrier of the virus.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2021, 12:53:20 AM

Don't spread fake news. How many people have died after receiving the vaccine? People die all the time, and unless you can prove that their deaths are directly connected to the administration of vaccine, you should stay away from posting such news. Vaccination has saved millions of lives till now. Many more could have been saved, but they refused to take the vaccine as a result of the constant propagation of fake news in social media. Those who propagate such news have their own intentions, but it is important to save lives and ignore this propaganda.

Does vaccine really save lives? It just creates antibodies and after it is up to your body. Also vaccine "works" only for one year (like flu shots).
Is this really a solution if I have to make this covid vaccine every year, still wear mask and still be a simple virus carrier?
I havent taken flu vaccine for years and havent caught that illness. Same is with covid. The real solution from covid is personal immune system.
Im more than sure that I was in close contact with covid person during 1.5 years. But still havent got ill. And I'm sure that if I get a vaccine, I will get a high temperature, will feel broken and my immune system will be damaged. So does vaccine really save my life or just gambles if it works or makes worse ?

Immunity is a very complex entity. You may be of the opinion that you have strong immunity.

However, the strength may not be enough to defeat the disease (kill viruses or bacteria). Strong immunity is an even more dangerous entity for the body than weak immunity. The body begins to devour itself. Strong immunity is manifested by a strong inflammatory process for the appearance of a virus in the body.

Most of the people who died from pneumonia in the Covid-19 coronavirus had very strong immunity.

They didn't die of the virus. They died from a very strong reaction in their bodies.

I disagree.

Having a strong immune system will never kill its host. People who got infected by the virus and died have weak immune system and medication is not enough to kill the virus. The percentage of getting infected by the virus (COVID-19) when you have a strong immune system is very very low, and if you get infected, mostly you'll recover fast due to your body reaction sending agents to defeat the virus with the help of medication of course.

It would be better if you'll provide scientific proof that strong immune system is a bad one if you'll get infected by the virus, because I'm not convinced.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 02, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?
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The reason is that we have different immunity and such cases are very small. Yes, the risk of re-infection with the virus does not go away even after vaccination, but the illness will gradually and continuously be reduced.

The one in your sister's case, how many days did she experience that after she was vaccinated?

We need to understand how the vaccine works, of all the vaccines, they have the same use, the vaccine does only make your body strong to not feel the effect of the virus, but since you get infected, you can also infect people. So the goal here is to get everyone vaccinated because even if the virus will stay, we will not consider it anymore as a problem since we all have the vaccine to protect our body against the virus.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 02, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?
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The reason is that we have different immunity and such cases are very small. Yes, the risk of re-infection with the virus does not go away even after vaccination, but the illness will gradually and continuously be reduced.

The one in your sister's case, how many days did she experience that after she was vaccinated?

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Ok, next Monday is my turn to take second Phizer vaccine shot. All of my colleges or people I know, after getting a second vaccine shot, felt terrible, had high temperature, running nose, cough, headache for 2-3 days. How I understand this consequences - due to vaccine, their immune system weakened. If not - explain why all of them felt terrible. During these 2-3 days, they are at risk catching other viruses, or covid. After they got vaccine, they still wear masks, keep 2 meter distance.

Look how it looks to me:

No vaccine - people feel good, wear mask, keep social distance.
After vaccine - people are at risk catching new illnesses, wear mask, keep social distance.

You see? What is the point of making a vaccine, if you still can catch covid and have to take vaccine booster after 12m ? In what kind vaccine is the solution? Looks like a placebo effect more than a solution.

The only reason I've signed to take vaccine is to travel. As soon as I get my vaccinated passport, I will be free to visit any country I want.

Even I had Pfizer vaccine (Comirnaty) two weeks ago. Felt the same, although the fever and pain lasted only for around 24 hours. The Comirnaty vaccine contains messenger RNA, which will trigger the production of virus protein in your body. During this process, your immune system reacts with the protein and that is the reason why you get fever and headache. Actually this only means that your immune system is in good shape. Your assumption that you are getting fever and other symptoms because the immune system is weakened, is not true. You can check this video, to get more information:

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/video/video-covid-mrna-vaccine

but why is it that people who got the vaccine can still get infected?

i was asking my sister how things are when she got covid and seem she is okay and got vaccinated, the day she got the vaccine she felt tired and dizzy whenever she stands. the doctor says she is still going to come back in the next 6 months because the vaccine will not be potent by that time. so another injection for her again. her whole life i guess she has to keep injecting vaccines. the only consolation is that she can now go walk and go to the beach.

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Quote from: bakasabo on June 02, 2021, 03:52:59 AM

Ok, next Monday is my turn to take second Phizer vaccine shot. All of my colleges or people I know, after getting a second vaccine shot, felt terrible, had high temperature, running nose, cough, headache for 2-3 days. How I understand this consequences - due to vaccine, their immune system weakened. If not - explain why all of them felt terrible. During these 2-3 days, they are at risk catching other viruses, or covid. After they got vaccine, they still wear masks, keep 2 meter distance.

Look how it looks to me:

No vaccine - people feel good, wear mask, keep social distance.
After vaccine - people are at risk catching new illnesses, wear mask, keep social distance.

You see? What is the point of making a vaccine, if you still can catch covid and have to take vaccine booster after 12m ? In what kind vaccine is the solution? Looks like a placebo effect more than a solution.

The only reason I've signed to take vaccine is to travel. As soon as I get my vaccinated passport, I will be free to visit any country I want.

Even I had Pfizer vaccine (Comirnaty) two weeks ago. Felt the same, although the fever and pain lasted only for around 24 hours. The Comirnaty vaccine contains messenger RNA, which will trigger the production of virus protein in your body. During this process, your immune system reacts with the protein and that is the reason why you get fever and headache. Actually this only means that your immune system is in good shape. Your assumption that you are getting fever and other symptoms because the immune system is weakened, is not true. You can check this video, to get more information:

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/video/video-covid-mrna-vaccine

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Quote from: pinggoki on June 02, 2021, 04:51:41 AM

Wow! Good to know that those persons who are already got vaccine and vaccinated already will be able to play normally in the Casinos over Las Vegas! It is more comfortable to a gambler to play and gamble with the normal set-up than having masks and face shield while playing, for me it is kind of irritable especially for those who are having eye glasses. But I am hoping that although the gamblers that will play in the casinos although they are vaccinated already they must follow the rules and regulations for the sake of their safety.

It's good to have some upside for being vaccinated. Usually there is one or two days of side effects after the vaccine, so having now bonuses is great. Eventually we all should be vaccinated, but until this happens we need to divide people. In my country unfortunately it is still mandatory for everybody to wear masks. I hope it will only be a matter of weeks until this changes too.

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Wow! Good to know that those persons who are already got vaccine and vaccinated already will be able to play normally in the Casinos over Las Vegas! It is more comfortable to a gambler to play and gamble with the normal set-up than having masks and face shield while playing, for me it is kind of irritable especially for those who are having eye glasses. But I am hoping that although the gamblers that will play in the casinos although they are vaccinated already they must follow the rules and regulations for the sake of their safety.

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In fact, high fever, headache, cough, etc. this is not a consequence of weak immunity, but rather the body's response to the vaccine.

A vaccine is essentially a weakened virus (a virus lacking the ability to actively reproduce). A vaccine is a completely foreign substance to your body. Therefore, one should not be surprised that the body is trying to reject it. Of course, normal immunity is great.

But during a pandemic, it's too late to train him.

This had to be done in advance - to go in for sports, often in the fresh air ...

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