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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2021, 12:53:20 AM

Don't spread fake news. How many people have died after receiving the vaccine? People die all the time, and unless you can prove that their deaths are directly connected to the administration of vaccine, you should stay away from posting such news. Vaccination has saved millions of lives till now. Many more could have been saved, but they refused to take the vaccine as a result of the constant propagation of fake news in social media. Those who propagate such news have their own intentions, but it is important to save lives and ignore this propaganda.

Does vaccine really save lives? It just creates antibodies and after it is up to your body. Also vaccine "works" only for one year (like flu shots).
Is this really a solution if I have to make this covid vaccine every year, still wear mask and still be a simple virus carrier?
I havent taken flu vaccine for years and havent caught that illness. Same is with covid. The real solution from covid is personal immune system.
Im more than sure that I was in close contact with covid person during 1.5 years. But still havent got ill. And I'm sure that if I get a vaccine, I will get a high temperature, will feel broken and my immune system will be damaged. So does vaccine really save my life or just gambles if it works or makes worse ?

Don't spread fake news. If you think that vaccines cause damage to your immune system, then provide proof for your claims. Your arguments are just laughable. Yes.. the immunity provided by the vaccine lasts for 12 to 60 months. That is why we need another booster shot after 12 months. But what is the problem with that? Right now vaccination is the only solution, whether you like it or not. You don't need to take vaccine or wear a mask, once COVID gets contained. But until then, you need to take these steps. Anyway, no one will force you to take a vaccine. If you don't want to take, then we can't force you.

Ok, next Monday is my turn to take second Phizer vaccine shot. All of my colleges or people I know, after getting a second vaccine shot, felt terrible, had high temperature, running nose, cough, headache for 2-3 days. How I understand this consequences - due to vaccine, their immune system weakened. If not - explain why all of them felt terrible. During these 2-3 days, they are at risk catching other viruses, or covid. After they got vaccine, they still wear masks, keep 2 meter distance.

Look how it looks to me:

No vaccine - people feel good, wear mask, keep social distance.
After vaccine - people are at risk catching new illnesses, wear mask, keep social distance.

You see? What is the point of making a vaccine, if you still can catch covid and have to take vaccine booster after 12m ? In what kind vaccine is the solution? Looks like a placebo effect more than a solution.

The only reason I've signed to take vaccine is to travel. As soon as I get my vaccinated passport, I will be free to visit any country I want.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 31, 2021, 02:29:41 AM

The group with age 18 and below in 99% of the cases goes on without heavy symptoms and Covid 19 is passed without many problems.The fatalities in this group in most parts of the world are less than 1% and I think this is because the virus finds no weak points most of the time in this group.The real group at risk are those with allergic reactions because pregnant women and lactating mothers will not leave house often.We need another year or maximum two and I think the virus will be fully contained.

Since it is a mainly lung related as well that usually means the immune system is breached via the breathing, the body fights to keep the breathing going further than most other stuff, like it would let liver die before it lets lungs go, which is why it is one of the hardest fights in the world by the body. 18 year old has amazing lungs, they are active they probably play sports they are less likely to smoke they are basically living less so hurting less whereas elderly could be smoking or smoked and their lungs and immune system got super low and bad because of all that happened.

So, it is not really about "age" per se but more about shape of your body, isn't there some 60 year old who has a better body than me? I am sure there must be but I am sure there must be some 18 year old who has horrible body as well but the common average is obvious.

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Residents of Melbourne (Australia) have found out the hard way that new Covid variants are being transmitted through non contact encounters in shops and venues outside their own homes.

It may be a short term gain allowing Casino patrons to attend premises mask free, however, in the longer term such encounters will act as super-spreaders until such time as the entire population is vaccinated.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 01, 2021, 11:15:14 PM

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Immunity is a very complex entity. You may be of the opinion that you have strong immunity.

However, the strength may not be enough to defeat the disease (kill viruses or bacteria). Strong immunity is an even more dangerous entity for the body than weak immunity. The body begins to devour itself. Strong immunity is manifested by a strong inflammatory process for the appearance of a virus in the body.

Most of the people who died from pneumonia in the Covid-19 coronavirus had very strong immunity.

They didn't die of the virus. They died from a very strong reaction in their bodies.

I agree. In my neighborhood, a majority of the individuals who died from COVID 19 during the second wave were healthy guys in their 30s and 40s (those who are above 45 got their vaccines and the second wave didn't affected them much). The mutant strains are behaving in a different way when compared to the original strain. Previously the virus was mostly affecting those above 60 years of age and for the younger age group without comorbidity, the mortality rate was near zero. But this has changed upside down with the entry of the mutant strains.

That happens too in other places because they never expect to get infected by the virus.
The virus mutant seems to be a new variant that is more dangerous than the first virus because the number of people infected still increases.
The virus attack does not stop or reduce, but it seems the virus can now attack any healthy people without any disease.
Hopefully, getting the vaccine, take care of our health, and always be careful can prevent us from the virus.
Hopefully, we can cut the virus chain and always carefully in the public area and everything will be okay.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on June 01, 2021, 09:23:45 AM

Immunity is a very complex entity. You may be of the opinion that you have strong immunity.

However, the strength may not be enough to defeat the disease (kill viruses or bacteria). Strong immunity is an even more dangerous entity for the body than weak immunity. The body begins to devour itself. Strong immunity is manifested by a strong inflammatory process for the appearance of a virus in the body.

Most of the people who died from pneumonia in the Covid-19 coronavirus had very strong immunity.

They didn't die of the virus. They died from a very strong reaction in their bodies.

I agree. In my neighborhood, a majority of the individuals who died from COVID 19 during the second wave were healthy guys in their 30s and 40s (those who are above 45 got their vaccines and the second wave didn't affected them much). The mutant strains are behaving in a different way when compared to the original strain. Previously the virus was mostly affecting those above 60 years of age and for the younger age group without comorbidity, the mortality rate was near zero. But this has changed upside down with the entry of the mutant strains.

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Quote from: bakasabo on June 01, 2021, 03:21:54 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2021, 12:53:20 AM

Don't spread fake news. How many people have died after receiving the vaccine? People die all the time, and unless you can prove that their deaths are directly connected to the administration of vaccine, you should stay away from posting such news. Vaccination has saved millions of lives till now. Many more could have been saved, but they refused to take the vaccine as a result of the constant propagation of fake news in social media. Those who propagate such news have their own intentions, but it is important to save lives and ignore this propaganda.

Does vaccine really save lives? It just creates antibodies and after it is up to your body. Also vaccine "works" only for one year (like flu shots).
Is this really a solution if I have to make this covid vaccine every year, still wear mask and still be a simple virus carrier?
I havent taken flu vaccine for years and havent caught that illness. Same is with covid. The real solution from covid is personal immune system.
Im more than sure that I was in close contact with covid person during 1.5 years. But still havent got ill. And I'm sure that if I get a vaccine, I will get a high temperature, will feel broken and my immune system will be damaged. So does vaccine really save my life or just gambles if it works or makes worse ?

Immunity is a very complex entity. You may be of the opinion that you have strong immunity.

However, the strength may not be enough to defeat the disease (kill viruses or bacteria). Strong immunity is an even more dangerous entity for the body than weak immunity. The body begins to devour itself. Strong immunity is manifested by a strong inflammatory process for the appearance of a virus in the body.

Most of the people who died from pneumonia in the Covid-19 coronavirus had very strong immunity.

They didn't die of the virus. They died from a very strong reaction in their bodies.

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Quote from: bakasabo on June 01, 2021, 03:21:54 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2021, 12:53:20 AM

Don't spread fake news. How many people have died after receiving the vaccine? People die all the time, and unless you can prove that their deaths are directly connected to the administration of vaccine, you should stay away from posting such news. Vaccination has saved millions of lives till now. Many more could have been saved, but they refused to take the vaccine as a result of the constant propagation of fake news in social media. Those who propagate such news have their own intentions, but it is important to save lives and ignore this propaganda.

Does vaccine really save lives? It just creates antibodies and after it is up to your body. Also vaccine "works" only for one year (like flu shots).
Is this really a solution if I have to make this covid vaccine every year, still wear mask and still be a simple virus carrier?
I havent taken flu vaccine for years and havent caught that illness. Same is with covid. The real solution from covid is personal immune system.
Im more than sure that I was in close contact with covid person during 1.5 years. But still havent got ill. And I'm sure that if I get a vaccine, I will get a high temperature, will feel broken and my immune system will be damaged. So does vaccine really save my life or just gambles if it works or makes worse ?

Don't spread fake news. If you think that vaccines cause damage to your immune system, then provide proof for your claims. Your arguments are just laughable. Yes.. the immunity provided by the vaccine lasts for 12 to 60 months. That is why we need another booster shot after 12 months. But what is the problem with that? Right now vaccination is the only solution, whether you like it or not. You don't need to take vaccine or wear a mask, once COVID gets contained. But until then, you need to take these steps. Anyway, no one will force you to take a vaccine. If you don't want to take, then we can't force you.

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I still feel it would be wiser to still study the ones been vaccinated to see if there could arise an after effect before compelling others to get vaccinated.

Agree to that, but the government is urging the community to take the vaccines more on the preventive sides, they've wanted their citizen to take the shot.

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Personally I love playing online casinos and I find it more fun so if going to the play casino games offline is my main reason for been vaccinated then I might likely not get the vaccine.

really depends from how you see the impact and like you, if playing offline is the reason being vaccinated I won't take it as well.

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Although it's beyond just the casino games but i would still love to know the health status of those been vaccinated if it's worth encouraging others to get the vaccine as well.

good point, why encouraging other people to get the shot if you ain't sure about what will happen to your own body.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2021, 12:53:20 AM

Don't spread fake news. How many people have died after receiving the vaccine? People die all the time, and unless you can prove that their deaths are directly connected to the administration of vaccine, you should stay away from posting such news. Vaccination has saved millions of lives till now. Many more could have been saved, but they refused to take the vaccine as a result of the constant propagation of fake news in social media. Those who propagate such news have their own intentions, but it is important to save lives and ignore this propaganda.

Does vaccine really save lives? It just creates antibodies and after it is up to your body. Also vaccine "works" only for one year (like flu shots).
Is this really a solution if I have to make this covid vaccine every year, still wear mask and still be a simple virus carrier?
I havent taken flu vaccine for years and havent caught that illness. Same is with covid. The real solution from covid is personal immune system.
Im more than sure that I was in close contact with covid person during 1.5 years. But still havent got ill. And I'm sure that if I get a vaccine, I will get a high temperature, will feel broken and my immune system will be damaged. So does vaccine really save my life or just gambles if it works or makes worse ?

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 01:25:33 PM

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I still feel it would be wiser to still study the ones been vaccinated to see if there could arise an after effect before compelling others to get vaccinated. Personally I love playing online casinos and I find it more fun so if going to the play casino games offline is my main reason for been vaccinated then I might likely not get the vaccine. Although it's beyond just the casino games but i would still love to know the health status of those been vaccinated if it's worth encouraging others to get the vaccine as well.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 01:25:33 PM

Account to the source: https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11906/fully-vaccinated-individuals-no-longer-required-to-wear-mask-in-vegas-casinos
Fully vaccinated individuals can now play normally without any masks in the gambling casinos and at the same time it goes for both indoor and outdoor locations in Nevada. The decision was made on May 3.

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The Board’s agents will not attempt to confirm vaccination status of patrons. Consequently, unless circumstances change, it is not practical for the Board to attempt to enforce a mask mandate tethered to an individual’s vaccination status.

As a whole the decision was made on May 13. Some licenses might be more restrictive as compared to the others.

I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.

Does every casino or there are specific places that only allows this by occasions . because for me this is not a right way to treat a deadly virus that still spreading the world now and even cannot be detected that easy.

If i were to decide? surely i will not play in casinos that has this rules and i will still respect the protocol about the virus .

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Quote from: hahay on May 31, 2021, 10:31:04 PM

No one knows for sure when this pandemic will end. Because even though some people have been vaccinated, the fact is that there are still new variants of the virus in the field, so vaccination is still not fully effective and still needs to be developed. If you look at some of the news, there are at least some people who died after receiving the vaccine and thus, there is no reason not to wear masks in crowds and in related casinos in Vegas. Hopefully the government there will be more aware of this Covid-19 problem, because this pandemic is not over yet.

Don't spread fake news. How many people have died after receiving the vaccine? People die all the time, and unless you can prove that their deaths are directly connected to the administration of vaccine, you should stay away from posting such news. Vaccination has saved millions of lives till now. Many more could have been saved, but they refused to take the vaccine as a result of the constant propagation of fake news in social media. Those who propagate such news have their own intentions, but it is important to save lives and ignore this propaganda.

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Even if people are vaccinated, that does not guarantee them fully protected because we know that the new variant is already attacked in many countries. Wearing a mask prevents the virus from entering our body and vaccinated, which can give you protection from the virus. That will work well if you can take care of your health, consume healthy food, vitamins, and always following the health protocols. It is hard to vaccinate all people in one country because some people will not want to get vaccinated.

Not everyone can get the vaccine, and that is an issue. Here in India, those below 18 years are not allowed to take vaccine. Also, among the 18 plus group, those with allergic reactions and pregnant women, as well as lactating mothers can't get the vaccine. The real danger is that the vaccinated people will behave recklessly and then pass the infection to these vulnerable groups. Since they have the antibodies, the infection will not have any impact on the vaccinated group. But it will have a severe negative impact on the groups that don't qualify for vaccination.

The first group is for the elderly and the younger will get their vaccine soon. Before the younger get their vaccine, they need to take care of their health and not do something to put their lives in danger. We hope people vaccinated do not want recklessly when they go out and still follow the health protocol because the vaccine can not protect them 100%.

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Seems like Asia had the right idea for years in realizing there is a risk in close confines and if ill its best to restrict your ability to spread with a use of mask much as people dislike it I think that will always be a smart thing to do. Of course some people never have to step onto a busy bus but as far as the casino I think some mask use is still fair, anyone who has a cold should just to be polite at this point.

It's better to be strict rather a new wave again may hit a country, I don't think there's a definitive information that the vaccine was the truly effective and it can't get contacted again. Face masks should do, best if people carry hand sanitizers on them always even the light ones or could be put on a pocket. It's always the right thing to do for being honest rather than keeping it to oneself.

I think by the end of this year the pandemic will finally over since most of the people will be vaccinated by that time except for those who don't want to because of their doubts that the vaccine will end their life. as of now almost all of the medical personnel and those who are in the frontlines are already vaccinated. next are those who are less fortunate and finally, everyone will be free from this pandemic. but more or less our world will become like Japan where you will see most of the people are wearing a mask when going outside of their residence.

No one knows for sure when this pandemic will end. Because even though some people have been vaccinated, the fact is that there are still new variants of the virus in the field, so vaccination is still not fully effective and still needs to be developed. If you look at some of the news, there are at least some people who died after receiving the vaccine and thus, there is no reason not to wear masks in crowds and in related casinos in Vegas. Hopefully the government there will be more aware of this Covid-19 problem, because this pandemic is not over yet.

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Quote from: yazher on May 31, 2021, 08:55:28 PM

I think by the end of this year the pandemic will finally over since most of the people will be vaccinated by that time except for those who don't want to because of their doubts that the vaccine will end their life. as of now almost all of the medical personnel and those who are in the frontlines are already vaccinated. next are those who are less fortunate and finally, everyone will be free from this pandemic. but more or less our world will become like Japan where you will see most of the people are wearing a mask when going outside of their residence.

You're talking most likely here in the Philippines but most of those who got shots are really the frontliners and the skeptics are into it likely because of the side effects. It is really still that effective to let the new normal sinks on everyone's mind as always rather than put our trust in this vaccine.

I don't think we can be like Japan when they're on a different league of discipline, I don't say that all of them are but most of them does. I'm in a province and I can say mask isn't that a bother anymore we even get onto a beach where most doesn't care if you're wearing it or not, this is a reality.

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Quote from: yazher on May 31, 2021, 08:55:28 PM

I think by the end of this year the pandemic will finally over since most of the people will be vaccinated by that time except for those who don't want to because of their doubts that the vaccine will end their life. as of now almost all of the medical personnel and those who are in the frontlines are already vaccinated. next are those who are less fortunate and finally, everyone will be free from this pandemic. but more or less our world will become like Japan where you will see most of the people are wearing a mask when going outside of their residence.

How can you say that most of the people will be vaccinated by the end of this year? Going by this rate, I don't think that more than 20% of the world population will be vaccinated within the next seven months. Also, don't forget that those who got two shots of the vaccine needs another booster shot after 12 months. This will further slow down the vaccination campaign. And also, let's not ignore the huge financial burden that has fallen on some of the poorer countries, due to the costs involved in vaccination.

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Quote from: STT on May 31, 2021, 05:32:39 PM

Seems like Asia had the right idea for years in realizing there is a risk in close confines and if ill its best to restrict your ability to spread with a use of mask much as people dislike it I think that will always be a smart thing to do. Of course some people never have to step onto a busy bus but as far as the casino I think some mask use is still fair, anyone who has a cold should just to be polite at this point.

It's better to be strict rather a new wave again may hit a country, I don't think there's a definitive information that the vaccine was the truly effective and it can't get contacted again. Face masks should do, best if people carry hand sanitizers on them always even the light ones or could be put on a pocket. It's always the right thing to do for being honest rather than keeping it to oneself.

I think by the end of this year the pandemic will finally over since most of the people will be vaccinated by that time except for those who don't want to because of their doubts that the vaccine will end their life. as of now almost all of the medical personnel and those who are in the frontlines are already vaccinated. next are those who are less fortunate and finally, everyone will be free from this pandemic. but more or less our world will become like Japan where you will see most of the people are wearing a mask when going outside of their residence.

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Quote from: STT on May 31, 2021, 05:32:39 PM

Seems like Asia had the right idea for years in realizing there is a risk in close confines and if ill its best to restrict your ability to spread with a use of mask much as people dislike it I think that will always be a smart thing to do. Of course some people never have to step onto a busy bus but as far as the casino I think some mask use is still fair, anyone who has a cold should just to be polite at this point.

It's better to be strict rather a new wave again may hit a country, I don't think there's a definitive information that the vaccine was the truly effective and it can't get contacted again. Face masks should do, best if people carry hand sanitizers on them always even the light ones or could be put on a pocket. It's always the right thing to do for being honest rather than keeping it to oneself.

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Sometimes I am also very upset with people who underestimate COVID-19 and refuse to wear masks. they do not realize that their behavior
can harm others. Since so many people end up showing no symptoms, but in fact they have tested positive for COVID-19. Such a person can
be dangerous, because he can become a courier spreading the corona virus.

I also understand that sometimes people playing offline gambling don't really want to play gambling, but because they want to hang out with
other people to enjoy the fun of gambling. I admit it is more exciting if we can interact directly with other people when playing gambling.
Moreover, it does not feel like we have been in a pandemic for about a year, and this makes people bored if they have to continue living at home.
Therefore offline casinos must strictly enforce health protocol regulations, especially for gamblers who have not been vaccinated.

Safety first is the most important thing that any casino owners needs to focus, we all understand that there are people who loves playing or interacting with real opponents, people who preferred to play inside offshore casinos than playing online.

To them, applying all the safety protocols should continue, with or without vaccines the health minister should carry out whatever rules they've got to imposed the protocols.

It's always better to prevent the possible spread than being sorry once you've got the virus without knowing where it's originates.

What you say is true, actually for now it is not a problem to play at a traditional casino, if casino owners can focus on implementing strict
health protocols. So for gamblers their safety can be guaranteed, and the risk of catching COVID-19 is very small. Because I am also sometimes
very bored when I have to play online gambling, occasionally want to experience gambling by interacting directly with other gamblers. Hopefully
the casino owner can also actively ask all employees who work at the casino to get vaccinated, because they have to interact with many people
every day. If all these things can be done, it should be safe to play gambling at traditional casinos.

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There is no perfect solution, people should still carry around hand wipes I think is a good idea in a high hand contact activity like casino gambling. Surely the casino themselves would encourage that also. The whole deal with mask and vaccine and just general distance was to reduce the rapid transmissibility of this current strain. At some point it wont be able to spread as there wont be enough people vulnerable, so masks wont especially matter as much then.
Seems like Asia had the right idea for years in realizing there is a risk in close confines and if ill its best to restrict your ability to spread with a use of mask much as people dislike it I think that will always be a smart thing to do. Of course some people never have to step onto a busy bus but as far as the casino I think some mask use is still fair, anyone who has a cold should just to be polite at this point.

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