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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 17, 2021, 01:52:34 AM

What most individuals fail to realize is that the effectivity of vaccines differentiate among individuals across their age group. Being vaccinated perse does not make a person absolutely immune from acquiring the virus.

The only instance where I can see people not using their masks if their COVID-19 cases in their country is close to zero to none. If, however, there are still people who are not vaccinated, thus have active cases in the area, then people should still exercise caution and wear masks.

Yep, I think this part was really not well communicated that even I didn't know until I'd read a lot about it.

It improves your chances and probability of NOT getting it, or if you get it, it increases your chances not just to survive it but also show less severity for the symptoms.

But it doesn't make you immune nor does it help prevent you from spreading it. Masks is all about this!

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Makes sense but it would still be better if they would impose strict mask regulations as when they are all inside, there's no way you can just check each and everyone of the gamblers with no masks for their vaccination slips. More so, some people will follow the sheep mentality and may even do what they are doing despite the fact that they may not be vaccinated themselves.

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Quote from: Viscore on May 17, 2021, 03:31:50 AM

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Most of us will prefer online but there are gamblers who would love to play in a real casino, that's why casinos are profitable because they have people who are patronizing their business, also tourist loves to play in a casino and that would add to the number of gamblers. We are also talking here about the future of casinos, and one of the reason to attract more gamblers is to give them the feel that they can gamble normally like before the pandemic.

Illusion is not a good alternative to reality, I do want to support businesses but if they disregard safety for profit then there is something probably wrong with them, I wouldn't really gamble (pun intended) my health even if I am vaccinated because the efficacy of the vaccine isn't guaranteed just to play physically in a casino, you know what I'm saying?

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 17, 2021, 02:54:08 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on May 16, 2021, 06:08:33 PM

Just like what Biden said, If you didn’t get the vaccine you still have to wear the mask so if you’re a gambler and want to experience playing on Casinos, you might consider getting one now. Though if you’re still not confident with the Vaccine out in the market, better to play online just to be more safe since Vaccine still not guarantee that you’ll not get infected.

If you are vaccinated you still need to stay home though because we need to build some herd immunity before anything else and going out in public even though you are vaccinated isn't really a good idea right now. I agree that we should try to play online since it is the much safer route in this whole pandemic debacle.

Most of us will prefer online but there are gamblers who would love to play in a real casino, that's why casinos are profitable because they have people who are patronizing their business, also tourist loves to play in a casino and that would add to the number of gamblers. We are also talking here about the future of casinos, and one of the reason to attract more gamblers is to give them the feel that they can gamble normally like before the pandemic.

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Distance and contact was always the largest vector to cut down on, I'd say overcrowding is more relevant and the see through perspex barriers would do a good job when trying to transition away from masks only. If they kept to a low capacity count then it'd work but that'd be my main criticism and just not realising people will do the same they always did which is chance that they feel good and so cant have it. Unfortunately this particular virus has a symptom of spreading below the radar, if it was just obvious every time it'd not be such a problem as we've seen that before.
They could also some adaption of mobile use with virtual queuing of people for tables that way in order to keep distance but I doubt they have done this in the meantime.

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Quote from: goaldigger on May 16, 2021, 06:08:33 PM

Just like what Biden said, If you didn’t get the vaccine you still have to wear the mask so if you’re a gambler and want to experience playing on Casinos, you might consider getting one now. Though if you’re still not confident with the Vaccine out in the market, better to play online just to be more safe since Vaccine still not guarantee that you’ll not get infected.

If you are vaccinated you still need to stay home though because we need to build some herd immunity before anything else and going out in public even though you are vaccinated isn't really a good idea right now. I agree that we should try to play online since it is the much safer route in this whole pandemic debacle.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on May 16, 2021, 05:55:28 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on May 16, 2021, 05:18:41 PM

These people who are now vaccinated will not care if they could infect other people, but I guess since the news only says that it will be possible only within the premises then I guess that's reasonable. let's just hope that their family is also vaccinated so when they go home they would not infect their families. I don't know the number of people getting the vaccine already but this move is very confident and it's telling that soon they will be living in a normal world as the vaccine has given to everyone already.

Actually, it is true, they can infect other people easily in this manner.
And when they go home, another risk to take. So it is up to the person if he wants that kind of risk.
Even if they are allowed not to use mask, it is still their prerogative if they want to be safe from others.
This will be good if almost all their constituents already got their shot, but I believe the percentage is not enough.
As it says below site, only about 36.7% of the total US population got their shot so far.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

That's a big percent already, and I'm sure it's growing in numbers as vaccines are produced consistently, also, I believe that there are people who are not willing to get vaccinated so we can never reach that 100%. For people who are always going out, they should get a vaccine and their family as well, maybe the virus would not lead to serious health damage of some but there are people who are already dying from this virus so it should not be taken from granted.

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What most individuals fail to realize is that the effectivity of vaccines differentiate among individuals across their age group. Being vaccinated perse does not make a person absolutely immune from acquiring the virus.

The only instance where I can see people not using their masks if their COVID-19 cases in their country is close to zero to none. If, however, there are still people who are not vaccinated, thus have active cases in the area, then people should still exercise caution and wear masks.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 17, 2021, 12:25:10 AM

Quote from: vennali on May 16, 2021, 10:12:04 PM

It is so weird to read these. I can understand that casinos are losing a ton of money and probably most of them even going broke but in case you didnt know, even vaccinated people could spread COVID and there is no strong evidence as of yet to suggest otherwise. People who have got COVID once are still susceptible of getting COVID if they arent careful as well. So, now just because their business is drowning, they'd rather let another wave hit the masses and act in selfish manner to the extent of not even checking if people have been vaccinated or aren't wearing masks. Unbelievable.

I totally agree. But there is a very vocal segment among the American population which refuses to wear masks and some of the casinos are in very poor state and they simply can't afford to antagonize anyone at this moment. But I suspect that the entire move may be counterproductive. If such people are allowed to enter, then not just casino visitors, but the staff may also get infected and the casino may be forced to close down. The United States is still reporting anywhere between 700 and 800 daily deaths from COVID 19, despite the successful vaccination program.

Thats tragic to hear and was the reason why I am against it. India was doing well during and right after the first wave but the 2nd wave hit so hard that people are dying in masses. On 15th May alone, over 4000 COVID deaths reported in India. These are just the reported numbers, the actual death count would be much larger. India when it comes to the cities are very crowded though, so, it isnt always possible to maintain social distance. Casino would be a similar scenario. It isnt possible to social distance unless a very limited number of people are allowed. Hopefully that is the case but still, eh, indoors with low ventilation still very susceptible to spread. I remember Movie complexes and halls were considered to be a hot bed and had to shut down all over the world. I dont see Casinos any different.

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Huh, is the vaccination a guaranteed stamp of safety from the virus? Really weird that the government even allowed this, since some places (like mine) still require even vaccinated people to wear masks. Cause honestly, if the vaccine had a 100% guarantee to poof the virus, then everyone would be going for it, especially those in the workforce.

Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 02:25:33 PM

I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.

Going first to a casino after being vaccinated isn't certainly a first on my list of things to do if I do get one. Plus, I don't really mind wearing masks all the time, it only inhibits me from eating on the walk but other than that, no issues really. Looks like the casino is also back at 100% working capacity, good luck to them all then.

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Quote from: vennali on May 16, 2021, 10:12:04 PM

It is so weird to read these. I can understand that casinos are losing a ton of money and probably most of them even going broke but in case you didnt know, even vaccinated people could spread COVID and there is no strong evidence as of yet to suggest otherwise. People who have got COVID once are still susceptible of getting COVID if they arent careful as well. So, now just because their business is drowning, they'd rather let another wave hit the masses and act in selfish manner to the extent of not even checking if people have been vaccinated or aren't wearing masks. Unbelievable.

I totally agree. But there is a very vocal segment among the American population which refuses to wear masks and some of the casinos are in very poor state and they simply can't afford to antagonize anyone at this moment. But I suspect that the entire move may be counterproductive. If such people are allowed to enter, then not just casino visitors, but the staff may also get infected and the casino may be forced to close down. The United States is still reporting anywhere between 700 and 800 daily deaths from COVID 19, despite the successful vaccination program.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 02:25:33 PM

Account to the source: https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11906/fully-vaccinated-individuals-no-longer-required-to-wear-mask-in-vegas-casinos
Fully vaccinated individuals can now play normally without any masks in the gambling casinos and at the same time it goes for both indoor and outdoor locations in Nevada. The decision was made on May 3.

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The Board’s agents will not attempt to confirm vaccination status of patrons. Consequently, unless circumstances change, it is not practical for the Board to attempt to enforce a mask mandate tethered to an individual’s vaccination status.

As a whole the decision was made on May 13. Some licenses might be more restrictive as compared to the others.

I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.

It is so weird to read these. I can understand that casinos are losing a ton of money and probably most of them even going broke but in case you didnt know, even vaccinated people could spread COVID and there is no strong evidence as of yet to suggest otherwise. People who have got COVID once are still susceptible of getting COVID if they arent careful as well. So, now just because their business is drowning, they'd rather let another wave hit the masses and act in selfish manner to the extent of not even checking if people have been vaccinated or aren't wearing masks. Unbelievable.

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How exactly do people prove they are vaccinated? With a W.H.O. (Traveler's) International Vaccination Certificate? An online APP? The article is a little thin on information only reporting that "the board" had made the announcement.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 02:25:33 PM

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The Board’s agents will not attempt to confirm vaccination status of patrons.

I am a little worried about this. If vaccinated patrons are allowed to play inside casinos without being asked to wear a mask and yet the casino itself does not attempt to confirm vaccination status of patrons, how could they make sure all those who are not wearing masks are really vaccinated? Anybody could easily claim they've already got the vaccine.

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That's actually delightful, to feel that things are going back to normal. However, I think it's too early for such open events, at least 70% of the country should be vaccinated and the decisions must be based on the infection occurrence, IMO. Who knows, maybe there's another strain out there that we aren't aware of yet and people going out there can cause another pandemic. Therefore, dropping all the restrictions just 5 minutes after the vaccination has been done is risky.
After all that we've been through, I think it's better to overdo it than underdo.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 02:25:33 PM

Account to the source: https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11906/fully-vaccinated-individuals-no-longer-required-to-wear-mask-in-vegas-casinos
Fully vaccinated individuals can now play normally without any masks in the gambling casinos and at the same time it goes for both indoor and outdoor locations in Nevada. The decision was made on May 3.

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The Board’s agents will not attempt to confirm vaccination status of patrons. Consequently, unless circumstances change, it is not practical for the Board to attempt to enforce a mask mandate tethered to an individual’s vaccination status.

As a whole the decision was made on May 13. Some licenses might be more restrictive as compared to the others.

I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.

Recent findings of the new coronavirus it's mutating and there are the news of a new mutation that we now called a virus of global concern that can still infect even if you are vaccinated, the virus will be around us for a long time because of its mutating nature, so not wearing a mask even if you are fully vaccinated should not be recommended, especially in an enclosed and a crowded room, yes get vaccinated but still wear a mask to protect you and everyone you are in contact, this virus is unpredictable now because it keeps mutating.

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Just like what Biden said, If you didn’t get the vaccine you still have to wear the mask so if you’re a gambler and want to experience playing on Casinos, you might consider getting one now. Though if you’re still not confident with the Vaccine out in the market, better to play online just to be more safe since Vaccine still not guarantee that you’ll not get infected.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on May 16, 2021, 02:54:40 PM

It good to partake in the casino just like before the issue of pandemic arise and it clearly know that the Nevada government cherished the casino business but I still not support the idea of let individual who are fully vaccinated to play in the casino just like before the issue of the pandemic happen because we once heard the issue of people vaccinated getting the virus again.
This needs to be taking into consideration.

I won't say the Nevada government cherish casinos because they are actually after the money they will get through taxing casino and statement once made by their Mayor when there was total lockdown is proof to that and it hurt that the Nevada casino also allows this to happen when there's a situation where people who are vaccinated still getting the virus.

You make an interesting point but I also have my reason for saying the Nevada government cherish casino despite the level of incoming it bring the state.
Yes, the Nevada Mayor does wish the casino could start their business during the total lockdown time but that doesn't mean it always about the tax money.

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Quote from: freedomgo on May 16, 2021, 05:18:41 PM

These people who are now vaccinated will not care if they could infect other people, but I guess since the news only says that it will be possible only within the premises then I guess that's reasonable. let's just hope that their family is also vaccinated so when they go home they would not infect their families. I don't know the number of people getting the vaccine already but this move is very confident and it's telling that soon they will be living in a normal world as the vaccine has given to everyone already.

Actually, it is true, they can infect other people easily in this manner.
And when they go home, another risk to take. So it is up to the person if he wants that kind of risk.
Even if they are allowed not to use mask, it is still their prerogative if they want to be safe from others.
This will be good if almost all their constituents already got their shot, but I believe the percentage is not enough.
As it says below site, only about 36.7% of the total US population got their shot so far.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 16, 2021, 02:25:33 PM

I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.

For me, the best experience is if you are not wearing a mask, there's a lot of things to do in a casino, you will not only gamble but you can also enjoy different show especially in the big casino, this is Vegas, one of the biggest so once you are there, you have to enjoy since you are not doing it on a daily basis. This news would attract more gamblers, and this is safe since it's only allowed to people who got vaccinated and it always promotes that we should get vaccinated if we want to feel like living a normal life.

Anyways there are still protocol to be observed even if people are free not to wear a mask.

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