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bitbollo

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 10, 2016, 11:49:13 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 10, 2016, 09:23:06 AM

Quote from: bitbollo on June 10, 2016, 05:02:21 AM

I place two bet:
1 it was immediately processed = Lost
Why here there was any "double spend" check?!? So this was played without one confirmation!

2 it was processed after a couple of minute = Lost
Why here there was a sort "double spend" check?!?
So this was played AFTER one confirmation!

You have to clarify: WHEN A BET WILL PLACED?

Because in two bet you apply two different rules, and what is really bad, you accuse of double spend!
and there is any delay by me or blockchain, just you decide (as you want) to accept a bet!

Personally I don't want play in a site that has no CLEAR rule

As i published on the notice,when there are some unconfirmed transaction in your wallet and you bet, the bet can be suspicios as double spending. So if you want to bet immediatly, you have only to bet after every transaction of your wallet is confirmed.
Then you can believe us. Thank you.

Thank you for the reply, but when you introduce exactly this rule?
I say this because... I play every time with more and more bet unconfirmed! (You can check my history on blockchain).
Just for understand timing of this rule.
Thank you again

I repost my question:
Thank you for the reply, but when you introduce exactly this rule?

secondstrade.com

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Quote from: adaseb on June 11, 2016, 07:26:20 AM

Quote from: Itsmylife on June 11, 2016, 05:48:51 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

Where is the place you get data forex/

I noticed that their prices aren't always exactly the same as other brokers. Its probably due to spread. However it shouldn't matter since they all move the same %. Since these are binary options it shouldn't matter.

@adaseb thank you for your good answer, that is the word that i want to say.

secondstrade.com

legendary

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Quote from: ?? on ??

WTF is this shit:

BTC price MUST BE on your site = (4173.77/6.48654777 + 4174.12/6.48654777 + 4168/6.48654777 + 615.1*0.3) / 3.3 = 640.52

And you change CNY price while my bet prosess.

4 exchanges was falling, and your site have a $6 increase. LOL.

thank you for your advice. we are checking it now. .

EDIT.
we checked it now.

our price formula is below.
The used price : (bid + ask + last price ) / 3
BTC/USD: average of Huobi, Okcoin, Btcchina, Bitstamp.
(Huobi/A+ Okcoin/A + Btcchina/A + Bitstamp *0.3) / 3.3 ( A : usd/cny exchange rate; whenever it is changed ,
we are going to publish bitcointalk.org)
Mar/20/2016 A:6.48654777

the price must include not only bid price and ask price but also last price .

and

when we compare to our data and bitcoinwisdom.com , we think that the data of bitcoincoinwisdom.com is little later than our data.

thank you.

secondstrade.com

legendary

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I'm not asking for a refund, just show that you are cheater. Wink

sorry for late refund. because weekend and communication error with my colleague for that, the refund so late.

i refund it now.

https://blockchain.info/tx/cb2a852f563b26ab553c810a50e92c344a7b2c85ae9c5acdf0c70dbacf40e674

thank you.

adaseb

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Quote from: Itsmylife on June 11, 2016, 05:48:51 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

Where is the place you get data forex/

I noticed that their prices aren't always exactly the same as other brokers. Its probably due to spread. However it shouldn't matter since they all move the same %. Since these are binary options it shouldn't matter.

Cryptorast

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Quote from: Itsmylife on June 11, 2016, 05:48:51 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

Where is the place you get data forex/

Metatrader and investing.com

Itsmylife

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Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

Where is the place you get data forex/

bitbollo

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Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 10, 2016, 09:23:06 AM

Quote from: bitbollo on June 10, 2016, 05:02:21 AM

I place two bet:
1 it was immediately processed = Lost
Why here there was any "double spend" check?!? So this was played without one confirmation!

2 it was processed after a couple of minute = Lost
Why here there was a sort "double spend" check?!?
So this was played AFTER one confirmation!

You have to clarify: WHEN A BET WILL PLACED?

Because in two bet you apply two different rules, and what is really bad, you accuse of double spend!
and there is any delay by me or blockchain, just you decide (as you want) to accept a bet!

Personally I don't want play in a site that has no CLEAR rule

As i published on the notice,when there are some unconfirmed transaction in your wallet and you bet, the bet can be suspicios as double spending. So if you want to bet immediatly, you have only to bet after every transaction of your wallet is confirmed.
Then you can believe us. Thank you.

Thank you for the reply, but when you introduce exactly this rule?
I say this because... I play every time with more and more bet unconfirmed! (You can check my history on blockchain).
Just for understand timing of this rule.
Thank you again

secondstrade.com

legendary

Activity: 938

Merit: 1000

Quote from: bitbollo on June 10, 2016, 05:02:21 AM

I place two bet:
1 it was immediately processed = Lost
Why here there was any "double spend" check?!? So this was played without one confirmation!

2 it was processed after a couple of minute = Lost
Why here there was a sort "double spend" check?!?
So this was played AFTER one confirmation!

You have to clarify: WHEN A BET WILL PLACED?

Because in two bet you apply two different rules, and what is really bad, you accuse of double spend!
and there is any delay by me or blockchain, just you decide (as you want) to accept a bet!

Personally I don't want play in a site that has no CLEAR rule

As i published on the notice,when there are some unconfirmed transaction in your wallet and you bet, the bet can be suspicios as double spending. So if you want to bet immediatly, you have only to bet after every transaction of your wallet is confirmed.
Then you can believe us. Thank you.

secondstrade.com

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Quote from: Cryptorast on June 10, 2016, 05:46:15 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

You liar, you use bid price, if bet down and ask price if bet up.

No. We have always use ask price.

Cryptorast

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Will you tefund me or bet processed like normal?

Cryptorast

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Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 09:41:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

You liar, you use bid price, if bet down and ask price if bet up.

Cryptorast

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Activity: 536

Merit: 250

Refund this bet, after I make it index become dead:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=744ca78a399e6f9d3a724e8765715cef472e57e73d43bfb9ce89b59f7f3ef4bf

bitbollo

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I place two bet:
1 it was immediately processed = Lost
Why here there was any "double spend" check?!? So this was played without one confirmation!

2 it was processed after a couple of minute = Lost
Why here there was a sort "double spend" check?!?
So this was played AFTER one confirmation!

You have to clarify: WHEN A BET WILL PLACED?

Because in two bet you apply two different rules, and what is really bad, you accuse of double spend!
and there is any delay by me or blockchain, just you decide (as you want) to accept a bet!

Personally I don't want play in a site that has no CLEAR rule

secondstrade.com

legendary

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Merit: 1000

Quote from: bitbollo on June 10, 2016, 03:44:24 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 07:48:57 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2016, 04:20:54 PM

Hi Second trade, Can you explain this bet please and maybe issue a refund??

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=300a66c48e5eee2d9240356ab20866d8294c4219dcffa5cc684b1a6b51cf7539

As you can see: Start Date 2016-06-09T21:15:45.063
My bet was send at 2016-06-09 21:13:12
https://blockchain.info/tx/300a66c48e5eee2d9240356ab20866d8294c4219dcffa5cc684b1a6b51cf7539

So why 2 minutes delay to take my bet valid?!?

i think your transaction was processed after 1 confirmation when i see "Included In Blocks 415575 ( 2016-06-09 21:15:21 + 2 minutes ) "

low fee or double spending suspicious transaction can be processed after 1 confirmation.
you can check about that on the last part of the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction is not perfected now.
but we are keep improving the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction.

sorry for your inconvenience .

So I didn't receive any refund?

Really bad.... secondtrade because you're implicit accusing me to make DOUBLE SPEND!!!!!!!!!!
I don't use any lower fee: just standard one!!!!

0.0001 BTC

sorry but we can not help doing this.
other sites that have the betting way of our site also have the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction .
but it is not a perfect way.
According to the characteristics of bitcoin, the perfect way is that every transaction become processed after 1 confirmation.
but we can not be doing this.

i think most transactions may be not double spend transaction .
but even if there is only one double spender, the risk is very big for us.

bitbollo

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Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 07:48:57 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2016, 04:20:54 PM

Hi Second trade, Can you explain this bet please and maybe issue a refund??

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=300a66c48e5eee2d9240356ab20866d8294c4219dcffa5cc684b1a6b51cf7539

As you can see: Start Date 2016-06-09T21:15:45.063
My bet was send at 2016-06-09 21:13:12
https://blockchain.info/tx/300a66c48e5eee2d9240356ab20866d8294c4219dcffa5cc684b1a6b51cf7539

So why 2 minutes delay to take my bet valid?!?

i think your transaction was processed after 1 confirmation when i see "Included In Blocks 415575 ( 2016-06-09 21:15:21 + 2 minutes ) "

low fee or double spending suspicious transaction can be processed after 1 confirmation.
you can check about that on the last part of the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction is not perfected now.
but we are keep improving the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction.

sorry for your inconvenience .

So I didn't receive any refund?

Really bad.... secondtrade because you're implicit accusing me to make DOUBLE SPEND!!!!!!!!!!
I don't use any lower fee: just standard one!!!!

0.0001 BTC

secondstrade.com

legendary

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Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 09:02:10 PM

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

the price is offered by our quote provider, they provided both ask and bid price.
and we use only ask price. so it can be little higher than average price.

we can not change the price.
we just show the price received.
and the price is the same with what we have been received.

thank you.

Cryptorast

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Activity: 536

Merit: 250

This is not looks like 0.965 for me:

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=56c35b0c557ff7be8b0e8fd21064d4fc35a8203e365a71180ed63d8270f3b5e7

Fix CHF price.

secondstrade.com

legendary

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Merit: 1000

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 07:41:01 AM

Quote from: secondstrade.com on June 09, 2016, 05:27:32 AM

Quote from: Cryptorast on June 09, 2016, 12:20:38 AM

You blame me in doublespending without proof, is this your honest? I don't think so.

no , i did not blame you sent double spending.
i just said the way that we find double spending suspicious transaction .

but the way is not complete way.
if we have not applied the way , hacker might steal our bitcoin.
so we have published the way.

we also hope every transaction processed directly without any condition.
but we can not help doing this.

we have never do any scam until now.
thank you.

Will you refund me 0.025 BTC?

no, as we notice about that, it can not be refunded.

secondstrade.com

legendary

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2016, 04:20:54 PM

Hi Second trade, Can you explain this bet please and maybe issue a refund??

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=300a66c48e5eee2d9240356ab20866d8294c4219dcffa5cc684b1a6b51cf7539

As you can see: Start Date 2016-06-09T21:15:45.063
My bet was send at 2016-06-09 21:13:12
https://blockchain.info/tx/300a66c48e5eee2d9240356ab20866d8294c4219dcffa5cc684b1a6b51cf7539

So why 2 minutes delay to take my bet valid?!?

i think your transaction was processed after 1 confirmation when i see "Included In Blocks 415575 ( 2016-06-09 21:15:21 + 2 minutes ) "

low fee or double spending suspicious transaction can be processed after 1 confirmation.
you can check about that on the last part of the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction is not perfected now.
but we are keep improving the way that distinguish double spending suspicious transaction.

sorry for your inconvenience .

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