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Quote from: imamusma on March 14, 2023, 02:13:59 PM

~snip~I never expected gamblers to appear to suffer so much about their gambling, but this is really a bad effect of gambling especially when the gambler fails to control his gambling properly. He really needs to be a responsible gambler. I hope this never happens to me, hopefully never even though I love having fun in the casino.

Casinos are aimed at those who are able to restrain themselves and not attach too much importance to their own egos. If those who do gambling only come with a lot of money and then play without any strategy and any management, they will just be wasting money for nothing. Their psychology will be disrupted because bets always lose and no big wins will be given by the casino. Players like that will suffer greatly mentally and continue to gamble non-stop until they go bankrupt.
Even though I am also a gambler, I don't really insist on having to use too much money, just use the minimum money allocated for gambling and play casually.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

He looks still young, is it true?. It is very pitiful that the negative impact of gambling addiction like this, not only the parents but also their children and wife become victims of their infatuation with gambling. I think this has disturbed him mentally and psychologically so much that he can't think rationally and realistically. If it's really happen like what you told, I just hope for him to be rehabilitated ASAP, if no one takes a hard and firm stand on him it will harm more people sooner or later.

Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble

Indeed at this time he is not a criminal but I'm sure soon he will become one. Not meaning to look negatively, but if the way of his mind just can't think clearly like that of course it could be if he lacks or runs out of money to play the gambling game, he will definitely do anything even become a criminal to get money so he can play the gambling.

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This type of addiction like your friend's is really bad, and he needs to know what the best solution is for him to change his addiction and mindset about gambling. I also have a friend who is addicted to slots who spends 4-5 times his total monthly salary on gambling. As a friend of course I have asked "until when" but the answer is almost exactly like the story in the OP.

I never expected gamblers to appear to suffer so much about their gambling, but this is really a bad effect of gambling especially when the gambler fails to control his gambling properly. He really needs to be a responsible gambler. I hope this never happens to me, hopefully never even though I love having fun in the casino.

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I think his family respects his decision and they love the guy so much so they just let him be that way. As a friend of him I think I will also respect his decision. He found his happiness this way so why will I stop him? His family already attempted this before but they fail so chances are that I will also end up on the same path. My question is where will his family go now?

I wouldn't worry too much if the girl still had his parents and they are doing well there but what if not? I guess they will be living in the streets now and asking someone for help to get food, water and something else. I feel sorry for them for having an irresponsible husband/father.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family?

From the story you shared his friend already advised him to no avail so he definitely needs to get into a rehab. He is just like an addict smoker who has gone off control in his behaviour. Such attitude on gambling has gone of limit for just a friend advising a friend to quit, he needs special assistance from the rehabilitation center and care for proper attention. He seem to have lost everything and nothing matters anymore and this is a typical example of a chronic gambling addict.

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Quote from: aioc on March 14, 2023, 10:04:41 AM

The question is, will he listen to your advice or pleading I doubt he is, he is into deep and chasing his losses, and he loses a sense of fulfillment outside of gambling, as long as he is not committing a crime and still manage to fund his gambling out of his pocket you can just monitor him in case he does something wrong or wants to talk to someone into giving up gambling, compulsive gamblers are like that there will come a point where they want to change and give up gambling, that's the time you can help him.

Nah, he's keep gambling until he almost lose everything, how you can say he will give up or he will not do any crime to make money? he will become a criminal to make money to gamble, if he's want to give up, he should give up after he lose all of the heritage money given from his father.

Actually it's really risky if you're still become a friend of the gambling addict, he might do something bad to you e.g. steal your money without you knowing, kill you etc.

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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

That person seems so hopeless and he only relies his fate on gambling. In worse gambling addiction cases like that, they tend to leave or be careless about their family's future but I think leaving them will be a good idea. If that person is my family member, I will do everything to help him seek professional help because if not, he might end up not just losing his assets but also his life. Sometimes people who are experiencing hardships like this only need comfort and since they have no one to run to they rely on gambling.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

The question is, will he listen to your advice or pleading I doubt he is, he is into deep and chasing his losses, and he loses a sense of fulfillment outside of gambling, as long as he is not committing a crime and still manage to fund his gambling out of his pocket you can just monitor him in case he does something wrong or wants to talk to someone into giving up gambling, compulsive gamblers are like that there will come a point where they want to change and give up gambling, that's the time you can help him.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

Yes, I have several friends who are compulsive gambling addicts. even, before the virality of slot machine games in our country. some of my friends, spend the property they own just to fulfill their passion for gambling. this is a normal phenomenon for me, because in the environment where I live, gambling is not something foreign to us. even phenomena like the ones you describe in this thread, are common everywhere.

Well, referring to your question. As a friend, of course, I will advise him, give him a little understanding about gambling, its bad effects and consequences if you don't have good self-control. after that, let them decide their own destiny. because after all, it all starts with one's awareness to change. it doesn't matter, however you advise your friend, give him advice, but if there is no awareness of the addict. yes, it is the same as pointless.

By the way, maybe what you tell me in this thread. can give a little picture, at least if we like this one hobby. it is important to know, that responsibility and self-control are the most important parts.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

You friend really needs help because he is becoming an uncontrollable gamble addict. If his wife left with his children, there is a possibility that he was not providing for them. He is using all his income for gambling, leaving his family to suffer. He might not be a criminal now but he might turn to crime or begging in the future. If he has nothing to use as loan collateral or have nothing to sell to feed his gambling lifestyle, he might look for other illegal means to get cash for gambling. I think he should consult a gambling psychologist or he should abstain from gambling for sometime. He should also bring back his wife and child and become a responsible father.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

This happened because he had won with small capital and made big profits, so he felt that it would come for the second and third time if he played again, that made him addicted to gambling, which locked his heart and mind and did not listen to anyone's words and do everything possible to be able to play gambling. I was sad to see that person, it was more than what I had imagined so far, that someone had become like a madman in gambling. Maybe asking for help Rehabilitation is the last way out as an effort to cure it.
I would do the same if it happened to my family or friends.

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No offense but the picture deficits that he is just a kid and not a guy with wife and one children. The way he holds his smartphone looks like he is just playing candy crush rather than slot game since his game is on autoplay if he is using buy bonus feature like what you said and it doesn’t need much finger tap when watching bonus round spin.

Anyway if this is true. Maybe your friend just introduced a slots game which is highly popular on AppStore. I’m using fish game casino recently to quench my thirst on playing slot without losing any money. Maybe he is just addicted on slot games and jphe just need a catalyst to divert his attention from real gambling to a play money with the same game.

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His mindset is already ruined by gambling addiction, so he will continue to gamble until he already recover all of his losses or until he die and he can't recover anything. I'm not sure if he's your friend or not, but if you at least can contact the friend of the addict, you need to tell him if the addict need to seek help by looking for a professional or doctor. But it's quite problematic since he's already lost anything and doesn't have any money.

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People need to have set their own monthly gambling limits before going into the (online) casino.

If you earn only say, an X amount of money a month, you take away Y monthly expenses and from what have left you then divide that number by 10 and result is what you have for gambling funds. If you follow that formula, not only will your friend not lose all his money but he will be saving money to build a better future for himself and his family. All he has to do is limit how much money he has to spare for gambling.

If he does not have any money to spare or he cheats himself into breaking his own 10% rule, he will most likely lose all his money, as he did.

From what I understand, addiction is a disbalance of your brain's neurochemistry. The only way to recover is to force yourself not to gamble (not even once!) for at least half a year.

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Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

Your friend has a gambling addiction level that has entered the highest level, you can't advise him to stop gambling, his family alone, it's hard to persuade him to stop gambling, now they have made the decision to leave him alone and they go away from your friend's life, let him, wait for your friend to really lose your mind and catch him, put him in rehabilitation in the area where you live.

You know, online gambling has now become a social disease, whether it's in the lower to the upper classes, I read the contents of your friend's writing, it's a pity that he really has no medicine to cure, the only way to put him in rehabilitation , finished.

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I'm a gambler, and I'd say what he did was very wrong because he couldn't control himself. From your story, he has lost everything because of his gambling which has no limits. You should continue to give him advice so that he stops doing that. It's possible now that he's not a criminal who does anything to play, but the chance for him to become a criminal is very large in my opinion, maybe he can still hold it when he still has money, but when he doesn't have a penny he will do everything he can to get it, including doing crime.

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We can advise a person like him as much as we can for so many times but the deal is, will that person gonna listen to us?

If a gambler becomes into that point of being a severe addicted gambler, there's nothing much we can do from that point being. It's already at the worst case scenario of gambling addiction.

Since his family have already and abandoned him, he can only help himself but that's where the hardest part will enter. Because of his situation that needs a helping hand, he'll have rough time for recovery.

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That is what is called gambling addiction, he is almost out of his normal mind when it comes to responsibility. It is very difficult in his condition to remove it. That won't just disappear from him, especially since it's a habit of his.

It's just sad because he has neglected his own family because of his gambling addiction. He can no longer control himself, he is irresponsible as a normal gambler because the responsible gambler still does not neglect the family he has. Even if I tell him or remind him, he won't just listen, his condition and what he needs is a psychologist in my opinion.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 13, 2023, 11:00:33 PM

Quote from: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 02:39:42 PM

]this is my friend,, he has 1 child his life is now destroyed in his wife and children..
<...>even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble <...>

Well, he won't steal from others, but he has stolen part of the future from his wife and child, and that's why they have left him.

Quote from: Hydrogen on March 13, 2023, 05:51:00 PM

Gambling addicts believe their only chance in life to make something of themselves and be somebody is through gambling.

What they really need is a 2nd career option. Another hope for earning a decent living, aside from gambling. Many parents encourage their children to acquire vocational skills and a college degree so that they have something to fall back on. In case, their dreams of being a musician or artist do not pan out.

Many gambling addicts have no 2nd option. They believe their only chance for becoming a millionaire is to win the lottery or win a lucky bet. Having no other options in life, makes it very difficult for them to gamble responsibly.

I think you are quite right on this. Many people who have this kind of problem with gambling are from poor backgrounds, with few qualifications to work, who are unhappy with their lives, mainly because of the economic component, and see gambling as a possible way out, but which in reality ends up being a problem. It is no coincidence that there are considerably more gambling dens per square metre in poor neighbourhoods than in rich neighbourhoods. But I wouldn't take all the blame off him and consider him a victim. There is a component of personal responsibility, and by no means all people in his situation end up behaving like that.

I have a bad feeling on that guy because he already lost everything and he still a gambling addict. That guy need some help from some specialist because I have a gut feeling that he can do some bad things because has nothing to lose anymore. This is what will happen if you let your mind control you, I keep saying to others that you should have full control in your mind whenever you gamble. You should also accept that gambling is pure probability game where the is no certainty.

Losing money in gambling can be painful especially if you did not fully accept the risk, but it can be a neutral if you are aware to the nature of gambling and also put the money that you intended to lose. Creating a discpline, good habit and winning attitude in gambling is really hard but it is really the key for us to be a consistent winner in gambling. Avoid to become a gambling addict because a lot of guys are doing bad things after they lose huge amount of money in gambling.

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This guys clearly needs medical attention already. Winning back your losses? Nah you're just diving deeper and deeper into the pit. Although you've said luckily he doesn't have criminal record (for now), you'd think it'll stay the same in the future? Coz I personally think it won't. His addiction will only worsen if this guy doesn't get rehabilitated. Imagine how he was selling all of his family's assets just for him to gamble? What do you think he will do next when the time comes that he no longer has any source of funds to pay for his addiction? Another option is to lend money, which leads him to be full of debt in the next few months.

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