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August 31, 2023, 12:00:46 PM
Most people who enter into the world of gambling, many of which have a background of curiosity after seeing their friends win at gambling or seeing videos that are circulating on social media where people can easily multiply their money in gambling.

So it's not surprising that most gamblers today when they get into the world of gambling, they immediately interpret it for big profits and wins in gambling where this can cause a person to go out of control by continuing to multiply the amount of their bets when playing gambling. And this mindset needs to be restored that gambling is not about profit but about fun, so it must be played appropriately.
That curiosity will grow after he returns to watching videos about someone's victory that looks so easy that it tempts him to try it. He didn't know that it wasn't easy to get a win from gambling, even if it was a small win. But curiosity had overcome all and made him visit the casino for the first time. After reading through the rules and looking at page after page on the site, he started registering and depositing money. From there, he finally got used to gambling and eventually even liked gambling.

This curiosity then develops into a desire to gamble and becomes addicted to gambling. That is the beginning of how someone can experience gambling addiction. And that is why one must have good responsibility in gambling and for everything.
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August 31, 2023, 09:55:13 AM
Speaking of having responsibilities in gambling, yesterday I saw a thread on this forum in which a person who is addicted to gambling was complaining that he closed his account because he is addicted to gambling, but he couldn't resist and went back to playing at the same casino where he had deactivated his account, so the guy deposited money at the casino, played and lost. after he lost everything, he was sorry and started accusing the casino of not having prevented him from playing again, see where addiction takes people, according to the addict, he wanted the casino not to allow him to reactivate his account and not to allowed to play again

the addict forgets that people of legal age assume responsibilities alone, and when they create an account at a casino, each person becomes responsible for maintaining good behavior, having self-control, managing money well and playing with money they can afford to lose. . This is something that all people must understand and follow. But it happens that when people are at an advanced level of addiction they no longer take things like managing money well seriously and only play with money they can afford to lose, which is why they even sell everything they have to support the game. and it always ends badly

people who know that they cannot control themselves and cannot stop playing on their own, should not think that closing a casino account will already solve the whole problem, this will not make the person heal. The person needs to seek help from relatives and a doctor, in serious cases the doctor will propose more aggressive treatment, but this is better than the person being relaxed thinking that just because they closed an account at the casino they have already solved the problem.
Addiction is a real, dangerous, and complicated animal. I believe in personal responsibility, but I also know that gaming is very appealing, especially to people who are addicted to it. These people dont just "forget" their duties; they are overcome by a strong urge that makes it hard for them to think straight.

Casinos, platforms, and tech companies all have a moral obligation to protect these people. Just restarting an account for someone who shut it down because they were worried about their addiction? Thats not a good idea. If tech can make tools that are hard to stop using, it can definitely make ways to stop harm.

Relying only on outside forces to keep you in check isnt the whole answer. Even though tech platforms need to step up, people also need to look for whole answers. Its not just about turning off accounts; its also about getting to the bottom of the problem with the help of professionals and family. It is important to take a responsible, multifaceted approach. Personal accountability and the accountability of technology must go hand in hand.
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August 31, 2023, 09:28:09 AM
Hello,

I suffer from Gambling addiction and I requested my Cloudbet account to be Permanently Closed.
It was closed indeed but two days later, due to my addiction I requested to have my account reopened, and it was reopened immediatly.

I believe they violated their terms and conditions by doing that as I can read here:
https://www.cloudbet.com/en/help/self-exclusion

They refuse to comply with it as they answered me this:

Quote
There are key differences between account closures, Responsible Gaming and regular account closure. In your request to close you made it very clear that it was due to the bet settlement issue that you were following up on, you did not state any responsible gaming reasons.

It is a shared responsibility to ensure that responsible gaming measures are followed on the site, as you never mentioned this before we had no reason to believe that you we not managing your gambling activities responsibly.

Therefore, when requesting to reopen your account our team was able to do so at your request as it was not a self-exclusion.

As you have now indicated you have responsible gaming issues, we have acted swiftly and blocked your access.

Therefore in accordance with our regulations and account closure reasons, we can confirm that your account was closed as per the correct procedure.

We therefore deem this case to be closed and encourage you to reach out to support groups to tackle your gambling issue.

We are unable to offer further assistance in this case and further conversations for this reason will be closed without any further action.

If you are unsatisfied with this outcome we can only advise you to raise a complaint to CEG by clicking the link at the footer of our website.

Can someone try to help me? am I wrong on my request? In their terms and conditions I can't find any different type of account closure per user request.

My goal is to have the deposits made after my account be reopened, refunded.



I think you have already created a thread to share the details of your account and addiction on that thread then why are you spamming the same message of your thread in this thread? I don't think that you'll get any help by copy/pasting the message on threads like this because this thread has nothing to do with your issue. If you're still having problem with Cloudbet then you should continue to post on the thread that you have created and share solid evidence about the issue that you're facing on that platform. If your evidence is solid then you'll get support of the forum members otherwise no one would trust a story like that. I recommend you to post evidence in that thread which show that the platform has done unfair with you.
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August 31, 2023, 09:05:43 AM
Speaking of having responsibilities in gambling, yesterday I saw a thread on this forum in which a person who is addicted to gambling was complaining that he closed his account because he is addicted to gambling, but he couldn't resist and went back to playing at the same casino where he had deactivated his account, so the guy deposited money at the casino, played and lost. after he lost everything, he was sorry and started accusing the casino of not having prevented him from playing again, see where addiction takes people, according to the addict, he wanted the casino not to allow him to reactivate his account and not to allowed to play again

the addict forgets that people of legal age assume responsibilities alone, and when they create an account at a casino, each person becomes responsible for maintaining good behavior, having self-control, managing money well and playing with money they can afford to lose. . This is something that all people must understand and follow. But it happens that when people are at an advanced level of addiction they no longer take things like managing money well seriously and only play with money they can afford to lose, which is why they even sell everything they have to support the game. and it always ends badly

people who know that they cannot control themselves and cannot stop playing on their own, should not think that closing a casino account will already solve the whole problem, this will not make the person heal. The person needs to seek help from relatives and a doctor, in serious cases the doctor will propose more aggressive treatment, but this is better than the person being relaxed thinking that just because they closed an account at the casino they have already solved the problem.
Most people who enter into the world of gambling, many of which have a background of curiosity after seeing their friends win at gambling or seeing videos that are circulating on social media where people can easily multiply their money in gambling.

So it's not surprising that most gamblers today when they get into the world of gambling, they immediately interpret it for big profits and wins in gambling where this can cause a person to go out of control by continuing to multiply the amount of their bets when playing gambling. And this mindset needs to be restored that gambling is not about profit but about fun, so it must be played appropriately.

That's why many gamblers will loss a lot of money cause of their curiosity they force their money to gamble without knowing that they can not always make an profit cause we all know that in the world of gambling if you don't have your luck then you can not make a profit, gambling is based on luck,  you can not say that you will win or let say that you can predict the out come of your bet. So must better if we won't have the mindset that we can make a lot of money in gambling.
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August 31, 2023, 08:39:20 AM

On the other hand, I understand that it is very difficult to quit, but I would say that doesn't mean you can't do it. Research whatever you're going through, and I'm sure you know what's best for yourself. Reduce your gambling budget and do it slowly, stay consistent and I'm sure you'll be fine.


Yeah, you'll find the way if you are willing to quit and that self-will already developed, no matter how hard it is yourself will be your solid determining factor to work with how will you succeed in doing it, and by the way, it's your responsibility to protect yourself both mental and physical to save up your financial needs.

With the heavy engagement with gambling,chances to over abused your savings may happen things that really needed to
address when you start realizing such mistake in allowing addiction to dominate inside you.
Specially if you do have a family to feed on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be that needing to think up logically and sensibly towards on things that brings out devastation into your finances on which it would really be just that sensible that you should stop before you would be putting your family at risks due to financial problems and we know that this isnt something that we do really like for it to happen.Its true that if you are really that willing to quit then you would definitely be able to do so because it all matters with someone mind and perseverance on which it might differ on each person but we arent that dumb on not to distinguish between good and bad thing.

There are really just those people who do really tolerate out those bad things or something that not must to be done because you are risking on something. You should really be that
responsible in towards your spending and gambling should really be treated as for fun on which it would be that normal that you would be playing out responsibly
and having that kind of limitation once your leisure needs had been fulfilled or been filled up.

Using that mentality the chance that you can easily quit and response to any possible addiction to come out might direct you to play with responsibilities, it's really depends from how you will going to take as from the start you are aware with the risk that it takes, gambling is not as easy as you think when too much engagement already take place.

You always need to find ways or a good path to follow to avoid risking your finances and not to allow any possible addiction to take place.
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August 31, 2023, 08:04:25 AM
Speaking of having responsibilities in gambling, yesterday I saw a thread on this forum in which a person who is addicted to gambling was complaining that he closed his account because he is addicted to gambling, but he couldn't resist and went back to playing at the same casino where he had deactivated his account, so the guy deposited money at the casino, played and lost. after he lost everything, he was sorry and started accusing the casino of not having prevented him from playing again, see where addiction takes people, according to the addict, he wanted the casino not to allow him to reactivate his account and not to allowed to play again

the addict forgets that people of legal age assume responsibilities alone, and when they create an account at a casino, each person becomes responsible for maintaining good behavior, having self-control, managing money well and playing with money they can afford to lose. . This is something that all people must understand and follow. But it happens that when people are at an advanced level of addiction they no longer take things like managing money well seriously and only play with money they can afford to lose, which is why they even sell everything they have to support the game. and it always ends badly

people who know that they cannot control themselves and cannot stop playing on their own, should not think that closing a casino account will already solve the whole problem, this will not make the person heal. The person needs to seek help from relatives and a doctor, in serious cases the doctor will propose more aggressive treatment, but this is better than the person being relaxed thinking that just because they closed an account at the casino they have already solved the problem.
Most people who enter into the world of gambling, many of which have a background of curiosity after seeing their friends win at gambling or seeing videos that are circulating on social media where people can easily multiply their money in gambling.

So it's not surprising that most gamblers today when they get into the world of gambling, they immediately interpret it for big profits and wins in gambling where this can cause a person to go out of control by continuing to multiply the amount of their bets when playing gambling. And this mindset needs to be restored that gambling is not about profit but about fun, so it must be played appropriately.
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August 30, 2023, 05:27:10 PM

On the other hand, I understand that it is very difficult to quit, but I would say that doesn't mean you can't do it. Research whatever you're going through, and I'm sure you know what's best for yourself. Reduce your gambling budget and do it slowly, stay consistent and I'm sure you'll be fine.


Yeah, you'll find the way if you are willing to quit and that self-will already developed, no matter how hard it is yourself will be your solid determining factor to work with how will you succeed in doing it, and by the way, it's your responsibility to protect yourself both mental and physical to save up your financial needs.

With the heavy engagement with gambling,chances to over abused your savings may happen things that really needed to
address when you start realizing such mistake in allowing addiction to dominate inside you.
Specially if you do have a family to feed on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be that needing to think up logically and sensibly towards on things that brings out devastation into your finances on which it would really be just that sensible that you should stop before you would be putting your family at risks due to financial problems and we know that this isnt something that we do really like for it to happen.Its true that if you are really that willing to quit then you would definitely be able to do so because it all matters with someone mind and perseverance on which it might differ on each person but we arent that dumb on not to distinguish between good and bad thing.

There are really just those people who do really tolerate out those bad things or something that not must to be done because you are risking on something. You should really be that
responsible in towards your spending and gambling should really be treated as for fun on which it would be that normal that you would be playing out responsibly
and having that kind of limitation once your leisure needs had been fulfilled or been filled up.
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August 30, 2023, 01:01:15 PM
Hello,

I suffer from Gambling addiction and I requested my Cloudbet account to be Permanently Closed.
It was closed indeed but two days later, due to my addiction I requested to have my account reopened, and it was reopened immediatly.

I believe they violated their terms and conditions by doing that as I can read here:
https://www.cloudbet.com/en/help/self-exclusion

They refuse to comply with it as they answered me this:

Quote
There are key differences between account closures, Responsible Gaming and regular account closure. In your request to close you made it very clear that it was due to the bet settlement issue that you were following up on, you did not state any responsible gaming reasons.

It is a shared responsibility to ensure that responsible gaming measures are followed on the site, as you never mentioned this before we had no reason to believe that you we not managing your gambling activities responsibly.

Therefore, when requesting to reopen your account our team was able to do so at your request as it was not a self-exclusion.

As you have now indicated you have responsible gaming issues, we have acted swiftly and blocked your access.

Therefore in accordance with our regulations and account closure reasons, we can confirm that your account was closed as per the correct procedure.

We therefore deem this case to be closed and encourage you to reach out to support groups to tackle your gambling issue.

We are unable to offer further assistance in this case and further conversations for this reason will be closed without any further action.

If you are unsatisfied with this outcome we can only advise you to raise a complaint to CEG by clicking the link at the footer of our website.

Can someone try to help me? am I wrong on my request? In their terms and conditions I can't find any different type of account closure per user request.

My goal is to have the deposits made after my account be reopened, refunded.



Well, if you are or have a gambling addiction, that is Something very delicate, I don't really know what the terms and conditions are like at Cloudbet , because if they don't have a term where they say that you have your specific case, you can act like that or not, but I think that If they reopened it to you, you shouldn't make them look bad, I think they didn't do that or to hurt you, it's not the best way to do it , at the company level or something, I think it's not Bad , because you yourself were the one who If they requested it, and considering that one as a human can be Wrong, since they practically saw it that way, however, this is useful for many who have seen this case and know how they have acted, but I think that in your case it is better to be able to find another way , do not Worry. I will say that you stop playing, because it is impossible to ask you for something like that, rather you should play but less frequently and less, betting less, not letting yourself be carried away by the ipuslos of going on and on, because that hurts you a lot, I think the main thing is is that.

The casino that you can Enter and register will not Know that they have the problem of addiction, so you must be very careful if you decide to go to another platform, however you have to be very careful, I recommend that, because The issue of addiction in games in people has to be taken very delicately, I think there are many threads here in the forum where there are many recommendations for you to stop addiction, however I think things can be taken into Consideration at the time that you can Receive help, although my first recommendation is that you try to play less in each session that you are going to do, because your impulse made you ask the casino for that, and the casino thinks that you are the owner of your actions, those are the things that you should consider and if you are in a casino it is because you are an adult, of legal age and you are the owner of your actions, for this reason is that perhaps the casino gave you the op
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August 30, 2023, 11:48:54 AM
People should unbderstand that losing without hard feelings is also a skill. Those poor souls that were taught in their childhood "Don't accept failures" and stuff like that, they are living in hell when they are adults because of that upbringing.
I was taught to not accept failures and I'm not a poor soul. Actually, you shouldn't accept failures but you should know which failures to ignore. Should you accept failures in gambling? Definitely, it's your luck, you can do nothing about it, casino has an advantage also in numbers, so, there is absolutely nothing you can do long-term.

after he lost everything, he was sorry and started accusing the casino of not having prevented him from playing again, see where addiction takes people, according to the addict, he wanted the casino not to allow him to reactivate his account and not to allowed to play again
No one thinks they are addicted unless they stop the activity for a day or two. That's the problem, you get addicted slowly, without realizing it and if you don't play for some hours and feel okay, then you think that you aren't addicted but then day goes by and here you start to crave that. I bet no one here thinks about the sugar addiction but spend a week without simple carbohydrates (bread, candy, ice-cream, pasta, etc) and then you'll start to realize what I say.
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August 30, 2023, 11:10:26 AM
Speaking of having responsibilities in gambling, yesterday I saw a thread on this forum in which a person who is addicted to gambling was complaining that he closed his account because he is addicted to gambling, but he couldn't resist and went back to playing at the same casino where he had deactivated his account, so the guy deposited money at the casino, played and lost. after he lost everything, he was sorry and started accusing the casino of not having prevented him from playing again, see where addiction takes people, according to the addict, he wanted the casino not to allow him to reactivate his account and not to allowed to play again

the addict forgets that people of legal age assume responsibilities alone, and when they create an account at a casino, each person becomes responsible for maintaining good behavior, having self-control, managing money well and playing with money they can afford to lose. . This is something that all people must understand and follow. But it happens that when people are at an advanced level of addiction they no longer take things like managing money well seriously and only play with money they can afford to lose, which is why they even sell everything they have to support the game. and it always ends badly

people who know that they cannot control themselves and cannot stop playing on their own, should not think that closing a casino account will already solve the whole problem, this will not make the person heal. The person needs to seek help from relatives and a doctor, in serious cases the doctor will propose more aggressive treatment, but this is better than the person being relaxed thinking that just because they closed an account at the casino they have already solved the problem.
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August 30, 2023, 09:12:29 AM

On the other hand, I understand that it is very difficult to quit, but I would say that doesn't mean you can't do it. Research whatever you're going through, and I'm sure you know what's best for yourself. Reduce your gambling budget and do it slowly, stay consistent and I'm sure you'll be fine.


Yeah, you'll find the way if you are willing to quit and that self-will already developed, no matter how hard it is yourself will be your solid determining factor to work with how will you succeed in doing it, and by the way, it's your responsibility to protect yourself both mental and physical to save up your financial needs.

With the heavy engagement with gambling,chances to over abused your savings may happen things that really needed to
address when you start realizing such mistake in allowing addiction to dominate inside you.
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August 30, 2023, 08:37:13 AM

This is very well articulated to be honest, and I completely agree with you , playing for fun , and playing for money are two different things in gambling, but the line between them is very thin as you have said, but then, I think it's still very possible to play for fun regardless of the loss and others, all it takes is decision and will, and absolute consciousness of that decision, will and determination to stick to the rule no matter how much loss the gambler records ..

Like me for example, there have been several instances I am tempted to go away from my decision of gambling for fun into chasing what I think I have lost, but with consciousness of the decision I've made , which is to gamble for fun, no matter how much is lost, this keeps me focused and help not to deviate from that goal all of a sudden .

This is a good mindset.

Playing for fun and for profit are two different things. It's really important to distinguish this so that you can play properly and play responsibly. You shouldn't overlook everything just because you have some sort of desire which is to chase your winnings and to chase the jackpot. All it takes is playing moderately and having your goal in mind, being focused on what you really came for in gambling industry.

And honestly this is what they should do, I mean this is the mindset that all gamblers should adopt. Gambling for fun and gambling for income are very different and most of them come to multiply the money they bring in, which means they are looking for income. Will it work? Obviously not, anyone who comes to make money will soon go downhill. I am saying things that are in accordance with the facts that happen, just look at many of them when they put excessive ambition or expectations then they will face addiction and downturns in life, you will regret it but it's useless because you have lost everything. So it is better to gamble with the basic concept according to gambling, keep thinking that it is an act for fun and nothing more than that. Don't be tempted by anything that comes to your mind because it's just a lure and just luck.

Yes, and just like now I was tempted to gamble and the results didn't go my way. I used have just keep myself away from gambling, but it's hard though, so another lessons for me to just be very cautious and just keep my self busy so that I won't be tempted to gamble.

But it's done already, I guess the best thing to do for me is just take it lightly and not to go and recoup my losses. I mean if I think of playing for me, then it's a wrong move for me. I'll just probably play when I feel like to, just saying.
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August 30, 2023, 08:34:33 AM

And honestly this is what they should do, I mean this is the mindset that all gamblers should adopt. Gambling for fun and gambling for income are very different and most of them come to multiply the money they bring in, which means they are looking for income. Will it work? Obviously not, anyone who comes to make money will soon go downhill. I am saying things that are in accordance with the facts that happen, just look at many of them when they put excessive ambition or expectations then they will face addiction and downturns in life, you will regret it but it's useless because you have lost everything. So it is better to gamble with the basic concept according to gambling, keep thinking that it is an act for fun and nothing more than that. Don't be tempted by anything that comes to your mind because it's just a lure and just luck.

Good point though for sure there are silent gamblers who can make some money out from their gambling participation but the vast majorities are gamblers who became addicted and losses a lot because of an aim of making money, I see your point and it's really valid since we really know that the reason why casinos are succeeding from this industry is because there are more losers than those who can make money out from their services.

The more addictions got deeper, the more money a person will submit to the gambling house. It's fact and needed to realize.

Well it can't be denied that there must be some of them who managed to get a win but they chose to keep quiet, and for that I think they kept it a secret for various reasons, first not wanting to share some of their winnings with their colleagues or maybe hide their addiction to others. That could be, but yes as you said most of them are addicts who are always having a hard time every day, some mental and psychological pressure they must feel. They think about quitting because they may be tired of the condition but on the other hand their lust and curiosity always pushes them to continue gambling. They will return for a few tries and with a very high level of expectation but in the end still lose, they assume that there is something they did that has caused them to lose that day and the next day they will return again with the aim of returning the previous loss. This cycle will continue to happen to them (addicts) indefinitely.

On the other hand, I understand that it is very difficult to quit, but I would say that doesn't mean you can't do it. Research whatever you're going through, and I'm sure you know what's best for yourself. Reduce your gambling budget and do it slowly, stay consistent and I'm sure you'll be fine.
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August 30, 2023, 03:20:47 AM
you should know your limit if you lose accept it don't make gambling your profession gambling is just a pastime and it's not a profession many people are addicted to gambling, most of them have a lot of debt and many others, so if I were you, be responsible when it comes to gambling
Note that,  setting a limit to losses only does not make you professional gambler because you need to have a balance of everything in between and make sure that you place high priority on your limit both when you are losing or winning. After all, what you are fighting against is possible gambling addictions.

So taking too much on winning is also risky and gamblers should learn how and when to take a bow and leave since the ultimate goal is to have fun,  so regardless of whether you win or lose,  you need to move on.

Unfortunately, the line between "having fun" and "playing for results" is very thin.
Let's take computer games for example - esports, first you will come in to play for fun. But you were killed once, twice. And you already want to get better at the game, because it's more unpleasant for you to be there. And now you're already starting to sweat playing for results, without fun, just to get a little stronger.
The same is true in gambling, poker and similar games are very close to my example. And the casino also has similar principles.
We come to play for fun, but after two losses we start analyzing and trying to figure out what we are doing wrong.
And casinos are aware of this facet, trying to make it thinner through bonuses, etc.

This is very well articulated to be honest, and I completely agree with you , playing for fun , and playing for money are two different things in gambling, but the line between them is very thin as you have said, but then, I think it's still very possible to play for fun regardless of the loss and others, all it takes is decision and will, and absolute consciousness of that decision, will and determination to stick to the rule no matter how much loss the gambler records ..

Like me for example, there have been several instances I am tempted to go away from my decision of gambling for fun into chasing what I think I have lost, but with consciousness of the decision I've made , which is to gamble for fun, no matter how much is lost, this keeps me focused and help not to deviate from that goal all of a sudden .

Im agree that if you set yourself a goal in advance to play for fun, then 99 percent that you will not get off the intended track. The point is that in this way you will prepare yourself psychologically in advance, but if the average player starts playing, while not knowing that it is necessary to clearly distinguish between the of the game for pleasure and the game for the sake of the result, then most likely he will come to the point that he will start playing uncontrollably. And the casino will get another regular player as the result. And I think that such people are the majority. Thats why is very important to have a plan until we start to action in any business.
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August 29, 2023, 05:17:47 PM

This is very well articulated to be honest, and I completely agree with you , playing for fun , and playing for money are two different things in gambling, but the line between them is very thin as you have said, but then, I think it's still very possible to play for fun regardless of the loss and others, all it takes is decision and will, and absolute consciousness of that decision, will and determination to stick to the rule no matter how much loss the gambler records ..

Like me for example, there have been several instances I am tempted to go away from my decision of gambling for fun into chasing what I think I have lost, but with consciousness of the decision I've made , which is to gamble for fun, no matter how much is lost, this keeps me focused and help not to deviate from that goal all of a sudden .

This is a good mindset.

Playing for fun and for profit are two different things. It's really important to distinguish this so that you can play properly and play responsibly. You shouldn't overlook everything just because you have some sort of desire which is to chase your winnings and to chase the jackpot. All it takes is playing moderately and having your goal in mind, being focused on what you really came for in gambling industry.

And honestly this is what they should do, I mean this is the mindset that all gamblers should adopt. Gambling for fun and gambling for income are very different and most of them come to multiply the money they bring in, which means they are looking for income. Will it work? Obviously not, anyone who comes to make money will soon go downhill. I am saying things that are in accordance with the facts that happen, just look at many of them when they put excessive ambition or expectations then they will face addiction and downturns in life, you will regret it but it's useless because you have lost everything. So it is better to gamble with the basic concept according to gambling, keep thinking that it is an act for fun and nothing more than that. Don't be tempted by anything that comes to your mind because it's just a lure and just luck.

Good point though for sure there are silent gamblers who can make some money out from their gambling participation but the vast majorities are gamblers who became addicted and losses a lot because of an aim of making money, I see your point and it's really valid since we really know that the reason why casinos are succeeding from this industry is because there are more losers than those who can make money out from their services.

The more addictions got deeper, the more money a person will submit to the gambling house. It's fact and needed to realize.
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August 29, 2023, 10:14:55 AM

This is very well articulated to be honest, and I completely agree with you , playing for fun , and playing for money are two different things in gambling, but the line between them is very thin as you have said, but then, I think it's still very possible to play for fun regardless of the loss and others, all it takes is decision and will, and absolute consciousness of that decision, will and determination to stick to the rule no matter how much loss the gambler records ..

Like me for example, there have been several instances I am tempted to go away from my decision of gambling for fun into chasing what I think I have lost, but with consciousness of the decision I've made , which is to gamble for fun, no matter how much is lost, this keeps me focused and help not to deviate from that goal all of a sudden .

This is a good mindset.

Playing for fun and for profit are two different things. It's really important to distinguish this so that you can play properly and play responsibly. You shouldn't overlook everything just because you have some sort of desire which is to chase your winnings and to chase the jackpot. All it takes is playing moderately and having your goal in mind, being focused on what you really came for in gambling industry.

And honestly this is what they should do, I mean this is the mindset that all gamblers should adopt. Gambling for fun and gambling for income are very different and most of them come to multiply the money they bring in, which means they are looking for income. Will it work? Obviously not, anyone who comes to make money will soon go downhill. I am saying things that are in accordance with the facts that happen, just look at many of them when they put excessive ambition or expectations then they will face addiction and downturns in life, you will regret it but it's useless because you have lost everything. So it is better to gamble with the basic concept according to gambling, keep thinking that it is an act for fun and nothing more than that. Don't be tempted by anything that comes to your mind because it's just a lure and just luck.

Among the most experienced gamers is where you can see attitudes and thoughts like the one you say, but in novice gamers, who believe that they have the world at their feet and that they can be a millionaire from one day to the next, they don't think like that, because for them the things that are done in the casino are mere luck and that they can benefit from that, so some do believe that a casino is a means of constant income because they bet little and win a lot or double, that is enough for some Players always think that things are like that, it is an attitude that does not show personality or responsibility, but the blows teach, and the blows in the casinos are with money, it is not bad.
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August 29, 2023, 10:01:21 AM
Hello,

I suffer from Gambling addiction and I requested my Cloudbet account to be Permanently Closed.
It was closed indeed but two days later, due to my addiction I requested to have my account reopened, and it was reopened immediatly.

I believe they violated their terms and conditions by doing that as I can read here:
https://www.cloudbet.com/en/help/self-exclusion

They refuse to comply with it as they answered me this:

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There are key differences between account closures, Responsible Gaming and regular account closure. In your request to close you made it very clear that it was due to the bet settlement issue that you were following up on, you did not state any responsible gaming reasons.

It is a shared responsibility to ensure that responsible gaming measures are followed on the site, as you never mentioned this before we had no reason to believe that you we not managing your gambling activities responsibly.

Therefore, when requesting to reopen your account our team was able to do so at your request as it was not a self-exclusion.

As you have now indicated you have responsible gaming issues, we have acted swiftly and blocked your access.

Therefore in accordance with our regulations and account closure reasons, we can confirm that your account was closed as per the correct procedure.

We therefore deem this case to be closed and encourage you to reach out to support groups to tackle your gambling issue.

We are unable to offer further assistance in this case and further conversations for this reason will be closed without any further action.

If you are unsatisfied with this outcome we can only advise you to raise a complaint to CEG by clicking the link at the footer of our website.

Can someone try to help me? am I wrong on my request? In their terms and conditions I can't find any different type of account closure per user request.

My goal is to have the deposits made after my account be reopened, refunded.

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August 29, 2023, 09:56:32 AM

This is very well articulated to be honest, and I completely agree with you , playing for fun , and playing for money are two different things in gambling, but the line between them is very thin as you have said, but then, I think it's still very possible to play for fun regardless of the loss and others, all it takes is decision and will, and absolute consciousness of that decision, will and determination to stick to the rule no matter how much loss the gambler records ..

Like me for example, there have been several instances I am tempted to go away from my decision of gambling for fun into chasing what I think I have lost, but with consciousness of the decision I've made , which is to gamble for fun, no matter how much is lost, this keeps me focused and help not to deviate from that goal all of a sudden .

This is a good mindset.

Playing for fun and for profit are two different things. It's really important to distinguish this so that you can play properly and play responsibly. You shouldn't overlook everything just because you have some sort of desire which is to chase your winnings and to chase the jackpot. All it takes is playing moderately and having your goal in mind, being focused on what you really came for in gambling industry.

And honestly this is what they should do, I mean this is the mindset that all gamblers should adopt. Gambling for fun and gambling for income are very different and most of them come to multiply the money they bring in, which means they are looking for income. Will it work? Obviously not, anyone who comes to make money will soon go downhill. I am saying things that are in accordance with the facts that happen, just look at many of them when they put excessive ambition or expectations then they will face addiction and downturns in life, you will regret it but it's useless because you have lost everything. So it is better to gamble with the basic concept according to gambling, keep thinking that it is an act for fun and nothing more than that. Don't be tempted by anything that comes to your mind because it's just a lure and just luck.
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August 29, 2023, 07:02:17 AM
Yes, it is very true, whenever one tries to think that a person with a lot of money has the freedom to play more, it can be true depending on their bets, if it is a person or player who makes bets with large sums of money, that for me is an irresponsible way of playing since it is not the most convenient, nor is it the most appropriate, currently it can be said that a person who has enough ability to play has to be much more careful than a person who does not have much money, because between more money, more opportunities to play and to play with large bets, but as you can play and win a lot, you can also lose a lot, and that is what a player often does not see, and that is called having a very irresponsible degree. big, because you can't be playing as if money were an unlimited option and play just to play, from time to time you have to insert logic into it and you have to be doing things very consciously, there are players who have very big losses and sometimes for recovering from that is very difficult, and even more so you have to be very careful not to lose capital, because spending money on bets is easy, but even for a millionaire it is hard to make money, because it is known that he has have to have and do a lot of work, so that's one way.

Addiction is the end of what I consider to be the most irresponsible, because when we still enter the casino it is not supposed to be a place that only admits adults, and not minors who act according to their immature impulses, it is not for us to a person loses control of what they do and begins to invest in a crazy way, leaving everything to chance, because things don't work that way either, so what should be done is first to be in control and not think that the more money If more money is spent, you must win or the casino has the commitment to pay it back due to what you can win, you should always do a control because it does not make sense for a person to fall into addiction just like that.
People who have a lot of money can bet big money and win big too, compared to people who only use small money bets because there is a real difference between them. And people who bet will also choose the size of the bet that they think is the most comfortable and that's why we often find differences in placing bets. But whatever bet we place, we must remain responsible with the money because it is our money that we might be able to spend just for gambling. After all, we have already budgeted it for gambling. But we also don't need to spend it in one day, especially if we don't have much money to gamble and try to have enough budget for gambling. And if we already know that our budget is only enough to play enough gambling, we must be careful in placing bets so that it doesn't exceed the money we have and if we lose, we only lose that amount of money and nothing more.

Addiction is something that we must avoid at all costs because it is a serious problem that will be faced by gamblers who lose their self-control and responsibility while gambling. And when we enter the casino, we have started to be responsible for our money and ourselves so we have to be careful in using the money to gamble. Those who gamble should have everything needed before they enter the casino to play comfortably and not try to chase wins, which is still mostly done by other gamblers. By holding ourselves well, we will not experience any problems while gambling and we can even enjoy it as entertainment and we can also be responsible gamblers.
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August 29, 2023, 05:38:05 AM

This is very well articulated to be honest, and I completely agree with you , playing for fun , and playing for money are two different things in gambling, but the line between them is very thin as you have said, but then, I think it's still very possible to play for fun regardless of the loss and others, all it takes is decision and will, and absolute consciousness of that decision, will and determination to stick to the rule no matter how much loss the gambler records ..

Like me for example, there have been several instances I am tempted to go away from my decision of gambling for fun into chasing what I think I have lost, but with consciousness of the decision I've made , which is to gamble for fun, no matter how much is lost, this keeps me focused and help not to deviate from that goal all of a sudden .

This is a good mindset.

Playing for fun and for profit are two different things. It's really important to distinguish this so that you can play properly and play responsibly. You shouldn't overlook everything just because you have some sort of desire which is to chase your winnings and to chase the jackpot. All it takes is playing moderately and having your goal in mind, being focused on what you really came for in gambling industry.
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