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Yeah, they do have security measures and once there's something wrong then it would really be impossible that they cant really be able to detect of it, this is why even if you do able to take advantage of those changing algorithms then the next question would be. would you able to get out or make withdrawal? For sure you wont, if you do then consider yourself lucky but if not then
it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that lock up. They cant really just let someone who would really be taking advantage and of course they wont really be liking
for someone to take advantage on them and make easy money out of  those exploited ways specially on changing up algorithm but this is something that we do assume
yet this is never been that easy.

If the algorithm is revealed and anyone gains access to it, cashing out your earnings will be nearly impossible. It will be obvious that there is a leakage somewhere that resulted in one getting all games played correctly, so it is very unlikely that you will escape if you have access to the casino system's algorithm. Let's not assert about it too much because I don't believe that will happen, and even if it does, you won't be able to cash out the money. You can’t beat a casino that is created for the purpose of making money and escape from it easily.

After reading the OP's thread, the question arose, is it possible for us to enter and find out the gambling website algorithm? And if for example we could, wouldn't the system detect us? and of course this will result in us being discovered and eliminated, aka blocked?

In my opinion, this is very impossible, especially when it comes to sports betting, which is actually determined by the match that is taking place.

For slot games, Plinko, this crash can still occur but the system will quickly recognize and anticipate it. In conclusion, with what we have to fight the system it would be very risky and impossible.

The problem may be that these rules are very complex. I remember when I was little in my hometown there were regular slot machines that looked like a bandit. So there was a return percentage of 15 percent or something like that. That is, out of 100 percent of the money that people put into him, he gives away 15 percent. So there the owner sometimes sat down to play and adjusted this percentage in the system to 50 or 70, I don’t know exactly, in order to win. Because, in fact, it was not he who owned this establishment, but his father, and he had to write off the money for winnings

Yes... if it's just an assumption and you can only imagine, then... it's that simple, gambling. However, when we talk about the reality when gambling, getting a win is not as easy as what we previously imagined, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand. Gambling is full of impossibilities. uncertainty and also a surprise. So it is quite difficult to be sure when we will get a big win in gambling. So gambling is not a place to make a profit, not a place to multiply wealth and not a place that can provide a steady income. Gambling is a place to have fun and we have to pay dearly for the pleasure we get.

Gambling is both a loss and a pleasure, so this is where it is important for us to continue to pay attention to the gambling activities we carry out, don't let it be that just because of the fun involved in gambling you ignore everything. Don't expect too much from gambling, because if your luck has arrived, then victory will come your way.

That's right, the randomness that exists in online casinos really makes it impossible for anyone to be that simple when it comes to figuring out how to find a loophole or a formula or even a conquest. Imagining it might be fine but if you intend to bring that kind of confidence into action in person then I think you'll find that it's not as easy as one might think and assume.

Online casino games have very smart algorithms and concepts, as we know that money is the only object of victory in casinos if you are lucky in one of the sessions you do, and on the other hand we are also aware that money is something that is needed and wanted by everyone, gamblers think that they can take advantage of gambling situations and conditions to earn income in ways or strategies that they consider trustworthy or accurate. but what they don't know is the fact that they only spin on a cycle of winning and losing, which in fact behind the scenes the casino slowly withdraws the money they have in several sessions, But what they don't know is the fact that they only spin on a cycle of winning and losing, which is the fact that behind the scenes the casino slowly withdraws the money they have in a few sessions, and that is the reason losing is more common than winning, as you said that the house is the real winner, on the other hand the chances of winning have an important role to keep tempting and maintaining the interest of gamblers.

Let's say it was possible for the casino owner to have access to the algorithm, he wouldn't play to win because it's his casino, the money he would win would be going into his pocket even if he didn't play. So instead of him cheating and running the risk of someone discovering his scheme, he will choose not to use the algorithm for his personal purposes and will not be giving access to the algorithm to anyone. will choose to profit from the losses of each customer who uses his casino. Casino game developers are also very ethical in this regard, they will not risk exploiting a bug to make money

because by doing this kind of thing, no one will trust them anymore and they won't make money with the software they create. So it's not worth it for them to cheat. As for people who have no connection with software creators who have a partnership with the casino and are ordinary people who spend hours researching ways to get the algorithm for a game, even if that person managed to succeed in winning a lot, it wouldn't take much time for the coders who work at the casino to realize this when the person requests withdrawal and after that person is caught cheating, they would have funds frozen and their account blocked. casinos have smart people working at the casino. That's why we always have to respect the TOS

If that happens, of course the host will realize there is something strange about your activities at the casino. Your account will be checked and your account may even be frozen. I don't think there is any way to rig a casino because it is a business and businesses are designed to bring in profits for the host. There are several possibilities where you will win the jackpot but to be honest I personally prefer sports betting to online casino games.

fact is that,  there is no possible way to predict the casino game algorithm and for that we have to accept the fact that bots and other tools that could be used for manipulation of the system are closely watched by the technical departments of the casino and for such no possible that escape.

But if you may become a genius to be able to break that setting then you can call yourself lucky to have beat the casino,  but in most cases it is near impossible for that to happen.

True, that is the trick there why even if the person knows algorithm, the way this algorithm set up to produce random numbers, make it difficult for any players  to predict the outcome of the game without tampering that algorithm.  If one wants to predict the outcome precisely, he needs to modify the algorithm, remove the RNG and give a fix result every time the result is trigger.  That is called hacking and not predicting anymore.

You said it all, if one have had the access to the algorithm of the gambling bets we made, but things are really different from how we pictures them from afar, you know yourself that this is almost impossible, we could have seen much people also into this and before you know it, everything has turned to abuse, also consider the gambling platforms, they are to make business in this all, we have to gambling to risk our chances out for a win or loss.

Personally, I can't speculate as far as you say. the problem is, this is not as simple as we imagine. at the very least, you should be an expert on algorithms yourself. plus, how you will apply it. meanwhile, the developer of whatever game it is, has designed it in such a way, including protecting all possibilities with security that they have created themselves. the more technology develops, the more sophisticated innovation becomes, including security that prevents things from happening that developers and casinos don't want.

But let's use the scenario you say, assuming we have access to the algorithm. the question is, have you ever tried it? then how do you know or predict games that have the potential to win. in fact, I can't even imagine it yet. please understand, because this area is not my expertise. apart from that, what's the point if you can do that? in my understanding, this is related to an element that contains something that is not allowed, especially since we are not part of the casino or developer. for sure, you are not gambling anymore, because you know which machine will make money. ultimately the main target is money, not the game. and this is contrary to my personal principles, even though it can bring instant money. apart from that, if we can do it, it will no longer be called gambling. which means, we will only make as much money as possible for personal gain. on the other hand, if you could create your own game, with an algorithmic system, would you do it? thus, you are free to play happily without losing.

It's not totally certain. Casino owners follow standard rules. They might figure out how to cheat in a game, but they can't change the entire system. They know how everything works, and the system still decides the winner as usual. Some players may understand how the algorithms work, so they practice and play, trying to prove to themselves that they were right.

However, even if you understand the system well and can predict its moves, you can't win every game, as the op mentioned. If the casino notices any suspicious moves, they might even get you arrested for running them at a loss and cheating

At first, I thought you were being serious until now that you sound so sarcastic to me that I noticed the joke in this statement,  well casino algorithm is not a joke and can't easily and freely be manipulated just like that,  so for sure describing it inline with impossibility of also getting bitcoin hacked, is very right in this context and we have to accept that facts,  one among the things we should never expect is such as getting a casino hacked it not that easy to hack the casino system.

The highest a hacker can go maybe to hack their wallet and that also has to come through an insider,  but saying that a casino system such as its in-house games systems getting hacked and manipulated is something that of a rare presence to us.

But the OP wasn't asking about taking advantage of vulnerabilities, but about the ability to predict the outcomes if someone got the full algorithm. Like if someone got a master key or something like that.

I'm not a technical specialist so I get lost in technicalities, but the way I see it, the algorithm applies a set of rules and, given an input, returns an output; the problem is that for one input, the output is not unique, so I don't think it would work the way the OP was asking. That would happen if you got a list of numbers pre-selected by the casino that go one after another, but I think that algorithms are more "dynamic" than that... but let's see what math savvies have to tell us.

Because, the way I see it, even if there is nothing like perfect randomness (at least not in anything created by a human being) randomizers work so well that they almost work as if they were 100% random, and there are so many variables to take into account that it would be impossible even for the casino itself to predict their own outputs.

Yes, the only way to take advantage of the casino's algorithm would be through a vulnerability on the system, meaning the person would have to explore errors, glitches and bugs found on the platform. I believe OP's question could have been made more explicity regards it already, because there is no other way to predict the algorithm, since in nature it has to be random to ensure legit results and fair play.

In every cases, instead of exploring algorithm vulnerabilities, it's advisable that every gamblers report such errors spotted to the platform. Besides ensuring the service's good functionality, they may also be rewarded by the casinos for their honesty and contribution, instead of being punished, banned and considered cheaters in case they try to take advantage of a failure in the system.

In house games use SHA256 algorithm, if you can hack it or beat the algorithm, congratulations you're one step ahead to hack Bitcoin.

For the record SHA256 was never got hacked or compromised, so that means the algorithm is really randomized and impossible to beat it. I think it's better if you join a small football team and create a fixed match instead of beat SHA256.

Well, I quite disagree with you bud, yeah, casinos are so designed in a such a manner that they will always win regardless of how much a player wins, but then, think deep about this, the term "the house always wins" is in general terms, not in individual level, and what does this mean? It simply means that, an individual gambler can still beat and win the casinos if he or she is lucky, but regardless of this winning, casinos will always be in profit because when one or two gamblers win in a particular game, there are several other thousands of  other gamblers who lost in the same game, so the casino can easily pay the winners from money they got or obtained from the losers, while the keep they rest of the remaining money as their own profit.

So, as a gamblers, we can still strive to  not be among the losers but the be among the winners, which is, it's possible for an individual to beat and profit from a casino, but generally, the casino will always be in profit, I hope you get the logic now.

They would never ever let themselves to be that beaten up by gamblers on which if theres a way that they can be beaten then they would really be always that 1 step ahead in front of us
 on which it is really just that normal that they would really be fixing or updating on whatever  those leakage or exploits on which it could really be resulting that they would really be making themselves
getting that wrecked or bankrupt by the players. We do know that exploits is there but we do know that it is really that do hard to make yourself that profitable with gambling.
Changing up some algorithms? THis is something a coder or programmer could be able to do so but it isnt really that simple as it sounds.
Security would be tough and they wont really be putting up themselves on business if they arent prepared.

You must be a genius to think that you can predict the algorithm of casino games, that shit is too complex for any human brain, maybe if you manage to open your sixth sense? Can you? I guess not.

Why are people even trying this hard to beat the impossible? Casinos game providers are not idiots, even if a vulnerability exists in any casino games they don't stay for long before they get fixed up, why not work on yourself and don't get too attached to gambling?

You can't always beat the casino, that's why when wins find you, quitting is the next thing to do, you can't beat casinos at their games, unless you are some powerful being from another planet.