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January 04, 2020, 06:00:23 AM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.

That is right. Once we become addicted, we will hard to leave gambling because our mind will always think about gambling, and we will play even if we only have little money. Addicted to gambling can make us borrow some money from other people because we can feel that our luck comes, and that makes us play every time. And in the long term, we will not have a chance to get out of gambling, we will want to play more and more, and even if we win, we want to play again because sometimes winning is not stop us from playing gambling.
addiction is bad , people get addicted fast to which they get instant fun and enjoyment and they want to repeat them because its easy to repeat and if they win they think of doing it more , we should control our addiction before it makes things worst
addiction is actually good if done on positive things, but when addicted to negative things will eventually be broken, even though there is a chance to get more money, but still we will be miserable in the end. actually we can still enjoy playing gambling without having to get addicted, changing the mindset can be done so that we are not addicted.
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January 04, 2020, 05:52:06 AM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.

That is right. Once we become addicted, we will hard to leave gambling because our mind will always think about gambling, and we will play even if we only have little money. Addicted to gambling can make us borrow some money from other people because we can feel that our luck comes, and that makes us play every time. And in the long term, we will not have a chance to get out of gambling, we will want to play more and more, and even if we win, we want to play again because sometimes winning is not stop us from playing gambling.
addiction is bad , people get addicted fast to which they get instant fun and enjoyment and they want to repeat them because its easy to repeat and if they win they think of doing it more , we should control our addiction before it makes things worst
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January 04, 2020, 04:30:11 AM
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If only gamblers can do their individual win/loss tracking also, they might start to realize how much money they've already burned on the table.

Or won  Cheesy. Keeping track of your profit/loss would be advisable, though if you've lost a lot it might be depressing to think about, though perhaps also a wake up call that you should change your habbits or quit. I think a good rule of thumb is just to work out how much you are ok with on spending on entertainment. A football match in the UK probably costs £30+ as does an average meal out at a restaurant. Are you ok with risking/losing £30 a week? If so, then maybe stick to that as your weekly bankroll. If you lose it's no biggie but win or lose hopefully the entertainment value is worth it.

I assume you are gambling on a single site only?

Yeah, I only use Skybet. It's easier to keep track of things that way. Some bookies do have better odds but they're pretty much one of the only sportsbooks I've found that give you a free bet every week (£5 free bet if you stake £25 in bets and £25 is usually my limit every week). Skybet also do great 3 fold accumulator price boosts on the 3'o clock Premier League kick offs which is what tend to bet on so I often put them on.

I cannot do the tracking myself because I am gambling here and there. A little online bet here, another on a lottery outlet there, another on a scratch to win stub, one NBA bet against a workmate, etc. Win/loss tracking is now impossible to do.

It's not impossible, but takes a little effort. You could just use a spreadsheet to keep track of your expenditure/earnings. I keep my balance on the site so I can always see how much I'm up or down easily. I used to put my bankroll for the entire season in my account at the start with the logic that if I lost it then I'd just cut my loses and quit. Luckily that never happened and I've just kept the money in my account and used that as my bankroll for the next season and so on. For some this might not be possible if they need the money but if you use a bookies that shows you your profit/loss then you wouldn't need to do this anyway.



If only gamblers can do their individual win/loss tracking also, they might start to realize how much money they've already burned on the table.
if only we will realized earlier?but the thing is we need to lose too much first before we finally accept the fact that gambling is not reliable if we are seeking for profit.

I cannot do the tracking myself because I am gambling here and there. A little online bet here, another on a lottery outlet there, another on a scratch to win stub, one NBA bet against a workmate, etc. Win/loss tracking is now impossible to do.
you dont need to track your win or loss,instead you have to find out how much you can afford to lose that wont affect your real life,or your future.

My point is that the accumulated amount has more impact than the smaller ones that you can easily burn at the gambling table. 100$ is an amount you can easily afford to lose. But the point is that how many 100$ have you been burning away because of your gambling losses? If you go home knowing that on that day you only lost 80$, you will not be going home in pain. But if you add everything up in the past 5 months and you will see 2,500$ in gambling losses, then perhaps that will remind you to moderate more your gambling expenses.


True, but you could also do the same with many other things in life. How much money do people waste on clothes, pizzas, coffee, subscriptions, trinkets, accessories, games and so on? I think the key is whether the behavior becomes toxic or not and whether it adds enjoyment to your life without breaking the bank.
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January 04, 2020, 12:31:00 AM
Arguably an addict, but I can control myself. I do not know if I am a gambling addict, for sure I sometimes like gambling because it increases adrenaline, and even then I do if I have some leftover money and I do not dare to do things like what you demonstrated where to sell my property and shares.
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January 03, 2020, 11:29:47 PM


If only gamblers can do their individual win/loss tracking also, they might start to realize how much money they've already burned on the table.
if only we will realized earlier?but the thing is we need to lose too much first before we finally accept the fact that gambling is not reliable if we are seeking for profit.

I cannot do the tracking myself because I am gambling here and there. A little online bet here, another on a lottery outlet there, another on a scratch to win stub, one NBA bet against a workmate, etc. Win/loss tracking is now impossible to do.
you dont need to track your win or loss,instead you have to find out how much you can afford to lose that wont affect your real life,or your future.

My point is that the accumulated amount has more impact than the smaller ones that you can easily burn at the gambling table. 100$ is an amount you can easily afford to lose. But the point is that how many 100$ have you been burning away because of your gambling losses? If you go home knowing that on that day you only lost 80$, you will not be going home in pain. But if you add everything up in the past 5 months and you will see 2,500$ in gambling losses, then perhaps that will remind you to moderate more your gambling expenses.
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January 03, 2020, 11:01:29 PM


If only gamblers can do their individual win/loss tracking also, they might start to realize how much money they've already burned on the table.
if only we will realized earlier?but the thing is we need to lose too much first before we finally accept the fact that gambling is not reliable if we are seeking for profit.

I cannot do the tracking myself because I am gambling here and there. A little online bet here, another on a lottery outlet there, another on a scratch to win stub, one NBA bet against a workmate, etc. Win/loss tracking is now impossible to do.
you dont need to track your win or loss,instead you have to find out how much you can afford to lose that wont affect your real life,or your future.
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January 03, 2020, 09:59:21 PM
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If only gamblers can do their individual win/loss tracking also, they might start to realize how much money they've already burned on the table.

I assume you are gambling on a single site only?

I cannot do the tracking myself because I am gambling here and there. A little online bet here, another on a lottery outlet there, another on a scratch to win stub, one NBA bet against a workmate, etc. Win/loss tracking is now impossible to do.
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January 03, 2020, 07:20:17 PM
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Once or twice every 1 to 2 weeks is enough for me for gambling. For those gamblers out there, just stop gambling and focus on your family.

Yes, I already did that. And even I tried to play once a month before, and that work for me. I tried to look up my family, and see that they need me in the circle of the family, so that makes me decide to reduce my time in gambling. So far, I am okay with playing gambling or leave gambling for a while because gambling is not the important thing for me. Gambling is for having fun and play some bet if I want to know my luck.


Addiction to things that are unprofitable is actually not a good thing. People should rather choose to be "addicted" to things without "side effects". Do such things even exist in our world? Well, I know one thing that has no side effects if done in excess: serving the CREATOR.
So, we should be more engaged in things that have lesser/no side effects.. and engage less in things with more side effects.

Those things exist in our world without we realize. The side effect will appear after we decide, and that effect will give you negative effects in the long term. Serving the CREATOR will be an exception because he is our CREATOR. At least, we can search for a positive impact than to get a negative effect, so we do not get the bad thing too.

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Addiction works kind of the same way for everything, not just gambling. If you study the science it is actually chemistry. When we gamble, something in our brain is released that makes us feel happy and excited (and when we lose it makes us panic and loses rationale).

Like any addiction, we need help from others to help prevent us from falling back into the bad habit. Friends and family. Cold turkey works only if you really have a support system around you.

We must realize that gambling addiction will not help our life, and it will give the worst thing, not just for us but also for our family. When someone addict to gambling, his brain will let him think about how to win gambling over and over. But the truth, he cannot get that win without help from the luck. If we can get support whenever we played gambling, I guess that we can avoid the addicting to gambling.
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January 03, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
I was reading the news this morning and one of the headlines was about a terrible stealing incident involving an alleged gambling addict. The man is an employee of R&L Investments, one of the Philippines' oldest stock brokerage firms. He was able to orchestrate a way to suck at least ₱700-million worth of stocks from the company to support his gambling addiction. This is around 14 million USD, huge enough for the company to decide its closure after 5 decades of operation.[1]

This case made me remember another news that shocked the country and beyond more than a couple of years ago. This incident involved another gambling addict who tried to burn down the casino inside Resorts World Manila. The man entered the casino fully armed and attempted to steal chips. It went awry and much worse from there, and ended up burning himself alive. The gambling addiction of the perpetrator had reached its worst end after initially causing separation from his family, selling of properties including his home and car, incurring huge debts, and so on. The incident claimed dozens of lives.[2]

Those are just a couple of very extreme examples and it's like comparing the very few maniacs who get in a car and mow people down or the idiots who get insanely drunk or have a drug-bender and then kill their wife or something and then holding them up as examples of how bad cars or alcohol/drugs are. The key with anything potentially addictive is moderation. If you do something that is potentially addictive everyday and it starts to consume your life then you're probably going to develop a problem at some point and you're probably engaging in such behaviour to try numb out some sort of personal issue you have or lack of enjoyment or purpose in life much like drug addicts do as they're self-medicating for their problems. People who get addicted to gambling are probably also constantly chasing that buzz of the adrenaline of winning. The guy who bankrupted his employer's company by stealing millions is just insane to me and it must just be the buzz of winning that he craves rather than actually wanting to acquire wealth because instead of gambling it away he could have just kept the millions he stole and ran off with that and lived a happy - or at the very least a comfortable - life. Gambling has always just been a form of entertainment to me and makes sports much more interesting. I only really gamble on the weekend on the football and I always stick to my limits and when the seasons over I stop until the next one. I don't really bet that much but I keep a track of my wins/losses and am actually a few thousand pounds in profit since I started. Only about £240 this year though:



but I was well over £1000 last year:

Just hit over £1k profit in the past 12 months recently:



I usually do much better as well. The only tournaments I've ever lost money on so far are the the last Euros and World Cup. Only lost my £100 bankroll which was all profit from previous seasons so still no losses in the grand scheme of things.

I want to ask my fellow gamblers here, what is the worst thing you have done for your gambling hobby or habit? Have you come to the point of getting addicted to it and how did you counter it?

I've never felt like I was not in control but just treat gambling as a bit of fun, stick to your limits and don't chase your losses. If you feel like you're starting to get pulled in to a habit then take a break and go find something productive to do to occupy your mind so you're not thinking about gambling. Same with drink or drugs really. If you do them once in a while or just on the weekend then you're unlikely to develop a problem but when you start to do them more and more and they start to take over your life then that's when it starts to become a habit and you should quit before it does.


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January 03, 2020, 12:58:22 PM

That is right. Once we become addicted, we will hard to leave gambling because our mind will always think about gambling, and we will play even if we only have little money. Addicted to gambling can make us borrow some money from other people because we can feel that our luck comes, and that makes us play every time. And in the long term, we will not have a chance to get out of gambling, we will want to play more and more, and even if we win, we want to play again because sometimes winning is not stop us from playing gambling.

Addiction works kind of the same way for everything, not just gambling. If you study the science it is actually chemistry. When we gamble, something in our brain is released that makes us feel happy and excited (and when we lose it makes us panic and loses rationale).

Like any addiction, we need help from others to help prevent us from falling back into the bad habit. Friends and family. Cold turkey works only if you really have a support system around you.
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January 03, 2020, 08:47:22 AM
only when there is no more capital that can be used to play gambling, and facts that force to get money only for family needs. this is enough for shock therapy and aroused common sense in uncomfortable situations that can get rid of my addiction instantly. many lessons to be taken where must always prepare a separate capital in various purposes, including gambling.

If we think that it could be taken out easily, maybe we are wrong. Even if we have some rehabilitiation projects for gambling addicts, they might still end up even selling their families furniture and appliances to have something to bet on because their addiction is now on the top. I think to make it stop, we need to make them suffer in a sense that they could feel there's no one they could rely into but we secretly still there to help them to change.

This is a dangerous move. To let the addict suffer is to push him into a more desperate situation. And to push an addict into the corner is to make the situation much worse. Remember that an addict is already suffering enough. We need to respond to it accordingly. We need to ask the help or assistance of a professional to intervene. There is of course a professional way of rehabilitating a gambling addict.
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January 03, 2020, 08:41:24 AM
only when there is no more capital that can be used to play gambling, and facts that force to get money only for family needs. this is enough for shock therapy and aroused common sense in uncomfortable situations that can get rid of my addiction instantly. many lessons to be taken where must always prepare a separate capital in various purposes, including gambling.

If we think that it could be taken out easily, maybe we are wrong. Even if we have some rehabilitiation projects for gambling addicts, they might still end up even selling their families furniture and appliances to have something to bet on because their addiction is now on the top. I think to make it stop, we need to make them suffer in a sense that they could feel there's no one they could rely into but we secretly still there to help them to change.
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January 03, 2020, 08:22:25 AM
I was reading the news this morning and one of the headlines was about a terrible stealing incident involving an alleged gambling addict. The man is an employee of R&L Investments, one of the Philippines' oldest stock brokerage firms. He was able to orchestrate a way to suck at least ₱700-million worth of stocks from the company to support his gambling addiction. This is around 14 million USD, huge enough for the company to decide its closure after 5 decades of operation.[1]

This case made me remember another news that shocked the country and beyond more than a couple of years ago. This incident involved another gambling addict who tried to burn down the casino inside Resorts World Manila. The man entered the casino fully armed and attempted to steal chips. It went awry and much worse from there, and ended up burning himself alive. The gambling addiction of the perpetrator had reached its worst end after initially causing separation from his family, selling of properties including his home and car, incurring huge debts, and so on. The incident claimed dozens of lives.[2]



I want to ask my fellow gamblers here, what is the worst thing you have done for your gambling hobby or habit? Have you come to the point of getting addicted to it and how did you counter it?

Sources:

[1] https://www.rappler.com/business/244378-philippine-stock-exchange-pushes-audit-white-collar-scandal-rl-investments?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1x-wyi3G8i19_o5Hw37UzaYLnA0_jpzxVw_V7KOEXr5Fz0n5DmllJMu-Y#Echobox=1573401216

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Resorts_World_Manila_attack
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3702217/manila-attack-resorts-world-casino-shooting-fire-36-dead-philippines/
More like he has some kind of mental thing killing is more of different aspects. Gambling addiction is more like going for it and losing all of your money in the game.
Also, I think it was the cause of depression or maybe he already loses everything this kind of thing is what makes a lot of people to do crime more likely.
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January 03, 2020, 04:42:30 AM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.
Addiction is very severe, and needed to be stop. We should control ourselves on everything, if we will be addicted expect that other lives will be affected as well. We need to control our money and also our emotion. That is the best thing to do, if we lose accept that fact that not all day we will win, as what other says win some, lose some.

If you are already in the situation of being addicted, saying controlling yourself is too hard.
You will need professional help on this matter if you want to change for the better.
Because if you will act alone, the temptations will always be there and you will find yourself coming back again and again to what you are.
You should not be ashamed of asking for help if you think you need to overhaul your lifestyle.
Rather than asking for help, better find a person who is close to you. Myself suffered big out of gambling, finally out of more confusion requested for help. By then shared my worst experience with my Girl friend. She asked me to start from the beginning, and I shared each and everything with her. This gave me relaxation, and slowly I recovered.
Counseling is the best way to overcome the addiction in gambling, seek for help in help that have profession in psychology. But if you are afraid to go in psychiatrist then it is better if you will share your problems in your relatives and friends. I also experience addiction in gambling, but I overcome it because my family and my friends helped me.
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January 03, 2020, 04:40:15 AM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.

That is right. Once we become addicted, we will hard to leave gambling because our mind will always think about gambling, and we will play even if we only have little money. Addicted to gambling can make us borrow some money from other people because we can feel that our luck comes, and that makes us play every time. And in the long term, we will not have a chance to get out of gambling, we will want to play more and more, and even if we win, we want to play again because sometimes winning is not stop us from playing gambling.

Addiction to things that are unprofitable is actually not a good thing. People should rather choose to be "addicted" to things without "side effects". Do such things even exist in our world? Well, I know one thing that has no side effects if done in excess: serving the CREATOR.
So, we should be more engaged in things that have lesser/no side effects.. and engage less in things with more side effects.
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January 03, 2020, 04:18:58 AM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.
Addiction is very severe, and needed to be stop. We should control ourselves on everything, if we will be addicted expect that other lives will be affected as well. We need to control our money and also our emotion. That is the best thing to do, if we lose accept that fact that not all day we will win, as what other says win some, lose some.

If you are already in the situation of being addicted, saying controlling yourself is too hard.
You will need professional help on this matter if you want to change for the better.
Because if you will act alone, the temptations will always be there and you will find yourself coming back again and again to what you are.
You should not be ashamed of asking for help if you think you need to overhaul your lifestyle.
Rather than asking for help, better find a person who is close to you. Myself suffered big out of gambling, finally out of more confusion requested for help. By then shared my worst experience with my Girl friend. She asked me to start from the beginning, and I shared each and everything with her. This gave me relaxation, and slowly I recovered.
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January 02, 2020, 10:45:04 PM
That is right. Once we become addicted, we will hard to leave gambling because our mind will always think about gambling, and we will play even if we only have little money. Addicted to gambling can make us borrow some money from other people because we can feel that our luck comes, and that makes us play every time. And in the long term, we will not have a chance to get out of gambling, we will want to play more and more, and even if we win, we want to play again because sometimes winning is not stop us from playing gambling.
I agree with this.

Becoming addicted in gambling is the one of the worst addictions out there because if you are addicted into it, it will be very hard for you to stop it and the risks that you can face keeps growing. This is the main reason why I don't gamble too much and I'd spend more of my time playing online games rather than gambling because I don't want to get addicted into it. Once or twice every 1 to 2 weeks is enough for me for gambling. For those gamblers out there, just stop gambling and focus on your family.
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January 02, 2020, 09:16:02 PM
only when there is no more capital that can be used to play gambling, and facts that force to get money only for family needs. this is enough for shock therapy and aroused common sense in uncomfortable situations that can get rid of my addiction instantly. many lessons to be taken where must always prepare a separate capital in various purposes, including gambling.
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January 02, 2020, 08:40:12 PM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.

That is right. Once we become addicted, we will hard to leave gambling because our mind will always think about gambling, and we will play even if we only have little money. Addicted to gambling can make us borrow some money from other people because we can feel that our luck comes, and that makes us play every time. And in the long term, we will not have a chance to get out of gambling, we will want to play more and more, and even if we win, we want to play again because sometimes winning is not stop us from playing gambling.
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January 02, 2020, 06:58:21 PM
Any type of addiction may or may not be gambling, because all addicts can do something horrible to the extent that it costs life and others. I'm gambling but I've made sure I'm gambling moderately because I don't want to be so addicted to gambling and I haven't done anything as dumb as what OP said. Gambling should only be treated as another way to have fun and enjoy to avoid serious addiction. Because in a long term you can never make a living.
Addiction is very severe, and needed to be stop. We should control ourselves on everything, if we will be addicted expect that other lives will be affected as well. We need to control our money and also our emotion. That is the best thing to do, if we lose accept that fact that not all day we will win, as what other says win some, lose some.

If you are already in the situation of being addicted, saying controlling yourself is too hard.
You will need professional help on this matter if you want to change for the better.
Because if you will act alone, the temptations will always be there and you will find yourself coming back again and again to what you are.
You should not be ashamed of asking for help if you think you need to overhaul your lifestyle.
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