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Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2019, 09:09:52 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on December 29, 2019, 04:29:36 PM

This is not that easy as you've thought. Control yourself when you feel that you addicted to it?

This is quite hilarious,.. how can anyone control himself when he is already addicted.

The thing to do here is to control ourselves for us not to get addicted because when we are in the situation that we are already addicted, the read problem will come and we won't be able to control anymore. That situation, we need some help from people who truly cares for us to eliminate that addiction.

I think it is better to say that “we must control our emotion,and limit our desire” on this way we will prevent our self from becoming addicted .

And also the quotation that “Prevention is better than Cure” ,if we know about this then maybe in more appropriate way we can survive sustaining our gambling habit without becoming addicted.

So let us be preventive that desiring for our own safeties .

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2019, 09:09:52 PM

The thing to do here is to control ourselves for us not to get addicted because when we are in the situation that we are already addicted, the read problem will come and we won't be able to control anymore

But before we already got addicted, we can't know if we will

The meaning is that as far as controlling our actions and behavior is concerned, we should avoid gambling altogether (if we don't want to find out). To put it differently, if we started to gamble and have a propensity and natural tendency to turn into a gambling addict sooner or later, it can be too late to try to exert that control. On the other hand, if we are not to become a compulsive gambler, what is to control here as we are already always in control by default?

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Quote from: Darker45 on November 11, 2019, 01:24:14 AM

I was reading the news this morning and one of the headlines was about a terrible stealing incident involving an alleged gambling addict. The man is an employee of R&L Investments, one of the Philippines' oldest stock brokerage firms. He was able to orchestrate a way to suck at least ₱700-million worth of stocks from the company to support his gambling addiction. This is around 14 million USD, huge enough for the company to decide its closure after 5 decades of operation.^[1]

This case made me remember another news that shocked the country and beyond more than a couple of years ago. This incident involved another gambling addict who tried to burn down the casino inside Resorts World Manila. The man entered the casino fully armed and attempted to steal chips. It went awry and much worse from there, and ended up burning himself alive. The gambling addiction of the perpetrator had reached its worst end after initially causing separation from his family, selling of properties including his home and car, incurring huge debts, and so on. The incident claimed dozens of lives.^[2]

I want to ask my fellow gamblers here, what is the worst thing you have done for your gambling hobby or habit? Have you come to the point of getting addicted to it and how did you counter it?

Sources:

[1] https://www.rappler.com/business/244378-philippine-stock-exchange-pushes-audit-white-collar-scandal-rl-investments?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1x-wyi3G8i19_o5Hw37UzaYLnA0_jpzxVw_V7KOEXr5Fz0n5DmllJMu-Y#Echobox=1573401216

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Resorts_World_Manila_attack
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3702217/manila-attack-resorts-world-casino-shooting-fire-36-dead-philippines/

I would like to share story of my younger brother who got hooked on Texas Hold ‘Em when we were growing up, playing online from the age of about 17. He also signed up with a fake profile, to get around the over-18 rule. I saw him sink countless hours and dollars into that game, all with the unwavering belief that he could win it back. During that time, a real breakdown in communication developed between us and I noticed a personality change in him.
He soon started asking mother for the money, saying that he’d pay her back, then we realized he’d been losing more than he could afford.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on December 29, 2019, 04:29:36 PM

This is not that easy as you've thought. Control yourself when you feel that you addicted to it?

This is quite hilarious,.. how can anyone control himself when he is already addicted.

The thing to do here is to control ourselves for us not to get addicted because when we are in the situation that we are already addicted, the read problem will come and we won't be able to control anymore. That situation, we need some help from people who truly cares for us to eliminate that addiction.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on December 29, 2019, 03:23:19 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 26, 2019, 07:22:06 AM

Indeed, it is the worst gambling addiction and is very blind to using his common sense amid the pressures that occur. Anyway, when gambling has become the main source of income then of course it is the wrong choice and gambling addicts should still prioritize wiser and more reasonable mindset so that whatever pressure is received at least the addict still has good control with a healthy mindset.

Yes if you are having gambling as your main source of income you will have to play it accordingly. There are some people who become addicted from gambling they may lose money in this addition so better keep control of your emotions and don’t bother to invest uncountable money For gambling, just control yourself when you feel the addiction to gambling.

This is not that easy as you've thought. Control yourself when you feel that you addicted to it? No, you can't tell that, other people do. When you are addicted to someone, you can't feel anything but pleasure to your addiction, you can't stop it that easily. If you can control yourself, you will never be addicted in the first place.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on December 29, 2019, 03:23:19 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 26, 2019, 07:22:06 AM

Indeed, it is the worst gambling addiction and is very blind to using his common sense amid the pressures that occur. Anyway, when gambling has become the main source of income then of course it is the wrong choice and gambling addicts should still prioritize wiser and more reasonable mindset so that whatever pressure is received at least the addict still has good control with a healthy mindset.

Yes if you are having gambling as your main source of income you will have to play it accordingly. There are some people who become addicted from gambling they may lose money in this addition so better keep control of your emotions and don’t bother to invest uncountable money For gambling, just control yourself when you feel the addiction to gambling.

You both might be right with your statement but i still believe you both underestimated gambling addiction spirit cause it can't be control that easy unless the person who's addict is help by someone he love. However, there's nothing bad in having gambling as ones main income if gambler is totally maintain his gambling limit and take a break when gambling either..

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Quote from: hahay on December 26, 2019, 07:22:06 AM

Indeed, it is the worst gambling addiction and is very blind to using his common sense amid the pressures that occur. Anyway, when gambling has become the main source of income then of course it is the wrong choice and gambling addicts should still prioritize wiser and more reasonable mindset so that whatever pressure is received at least the addict still has good control with a healthy mindset.

Yes if you are having gambling as your main source of income you will have to play it accordingly. There are some people who become addicted from gambling they may lose money in this addition so better keep control of your emotions and don’t bother to invest uncountable money For gambling, just control yourself when you feel the addiction to gambling.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on December 25, 2019, 12:14:42 PM

That's an example of addiction we should all avoid.
He didn't just risk his money but also he stole money from the company that he is working and this is even worse... But those people who are working in Stock and trading companies are the biggest gamblers of all...

Gamblers are not only the ones whom we see in land casinos or on online casinos rather there are many other professions which do much similar to gambling. Stock exchange controllers also act like gamblers and are even worse than gamblers. They have greed that is never satisfied and they don’t fear exploiting anyone. This person needs to stay at rehabilitation center if he is involved in stealing money for gambling.

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Quote from: Sahyadri on December 26, 2019, 11:10:11 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on November 11, 2019, 01:24:14 AM

I was reading the news this morning and one of the headlines was about a terrible stealing incident involving an alleged gambling addict. The man is an employee of R&L Investments, one of the Philippines' oldest stock brokerage firms. He was able to orchestrate a way to suck at least ₱700-million worth of stocks from the company to support his gambling addiction. This is around 14 million USD, huge enough for the company to decide its closure after 5 decades of operation.^[1]

This case made me remember another news that shocked the country and beyond more than a couple of years ago. This incident involved another gambling addict who tried to burn down the casino inside Resorts World Manila. The man entered the casino fully armed and attempted to steal chips. It went awry and much worse from there, and ended up burning himself alive. The gambling addiction of the perpetrator had reached its worst end after initially causing separation from his family, selling of properties including his home and car, incurring huge debts, and so on. The incident claimed dozens of lives.^[2]

I want to ask my fellow gamblers here, what is the worst thing you have done for your gambling hobby or habit? Have you come to the point of getting addicted to it and how did you counter it?

Sources:

[1] https://www.rappler.com/business/244378-philippine-stock-exchange-pushes-audit-white-collar-scandal-rl-investments?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1x-wyi3G8i19_o5Hw37UzaYLnA0_jpzxVw_V7KOEXr5Fz0n5DmllJMu-Y#Echobox=1573401216

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Resorts_World_Manila_attack
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3702217/manila-attack-resorts-world-casino-shooting-fire-36-dead-philippines/

Luckily I or my close people have not faced such gambling addictions, nothing I have heard of but there was an uncle in my neighborhood, must be around early 50 years who lost most of his savings on gamble. He got so addicted to the the gains & overspending that he could not foresee what he is getting into. Eventually, he lost his family too.

That is sad to hear but that not happened only to him I have heard and saw a number of people like that. They do not care for their family and they lose all of their money in gambling and they even lose that money which will make the future of their family so if he will lose the base of their family then their family members are not at wrong to leave that place and to find another strong support.

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Quote from: Darker45 on November 11, 2019, 01:24:14 AM

I was reading the news this morning and one of the headlines was about a terrible stealing incident involving an alleged gambling addict. The man is an employee of R&L Investments, one of the Philippines' oldest stock brokerage firms. He was able to orchestrate a way to suck at least ₱700-million worth of stocks from the company to support his gambling addiction. This is around 14 million USD, huge enough for the company to decide its closure after 5 decades of operation.^[1]

This case made me remember another news that shocked the country and beyond more than a couple of years ago. This incident involved another gambling addict who tried to burn down the casino inside Resorts World Manila. The man entered the casino fully armed and attempted to steal chips. It went awry and much worse from there, and ended up burning himself alive. The gambling addiction of the perpetrator had reached its worst end after initially causing separation from his family, selling of properties including his home and car, incurring huge debts, and so on. The incident claimed dozens of lives.^[2]

I want to ask my fellow gamblers here, what is the worst thing you have done for your gambling hobby or habit? Have you come to the point of getting addicted to it and how did you counter it?

Sources:

[1] https://www.rappler.com/business/244378-philippine-stock-exchange-pushes-audit-white-collar-scandal-rl-investments?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1x-wyi3G8i19_o5Hw37UzaYLnA0_jpzxVw_V7KOEXr5Fz0n5DmllJMu-Y#Echobox=1573401216

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Resorts_World_Manila_attack
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3702217/manila-attack-resorts-world-casino-shooting-fire-36-dead-philippines/

Luckily I or my close people have not faced such gambling addictions, nothing I have heard of but there was an uncle in my neighborhood, must be around early 50 years who lost most of his savings on gamble. He got so addicted to the the gains & overspending that he could not foresee what he is getting into. Eventually, he lost his family too.

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gambling addiction is not a severe mental illness that must be entered into a psychiatric facility, the best way to cure gambling addicts is to do hypnotherapy. I have personally visited hypnotherapy to reduce my addiction to smoking, and there I saw many patients who have other illnesses (phobias, game addiction, hypersexual, and others) that are being treated or are almost cured.

I think hypnotherapy can solve the addicting problem because that method is working in the subconscious mind, so it will give a command to our mind, body, and soul that gambling is not good for our life. Maybe people who have an addict to gambling can try this method, and they need to trust the psychiatric that they will help that person to solve the problem. I think that it is worth to try if they really want to have a good mind, and they want to cure addicted to gambling.

hypno ? it means that you will be hypnotize by some things like for example pendulum ?

but did the effect only good for short term only ? later on you will be awaken from being hypnotize so i dont think that its a good way to cut your addiction . i think medication is still the best or by taking prescribe drugs that are specifically formulated to cure mental illness such as addiction . gambling addiction can be severe or not depending on the patient .

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on December 26, 2019, 02:46:46 AM

gambling addiction is not a severe mental illness that must be entered into a psychiatric facility, the best way to cure gambling addicts is to do hypnotherapy. I have personally visited hypnotherapy to reduce my addiction to smoking, and there I saw many patients who have other illnesses (phobias, game addiction, hypersexual, and others) that are being treated or are almost cured.

I think hypnotherapy can solve the addicting problem because that method is working in the subconscious mind, so it will give a command to our mind, body, and soul that gambling is not good for our life. Maybe people who have an addict to gambling can try this method, and they need to trust the psychiatric that they will help that person to solve the problem. I think that it is worth to try if they really want to have a good mind, and they want to cure addicted to gambling.

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Indeed, it is the worst gambling addiction and is very blind to using his common sense amid the pressures that occur. Anyway, when gambling has become the main source of income then of course it is the wrong choice and gambling addicts should still prioritize wiser and more reasonable mindset so that whatever pressure is received at least the addict still has good control with a healthy mindset.

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It's rare to treat patients that has gambling addiction issue. Usually, those who are addicted in gambling in which they have nothing left to gamble due to their lack of control became miserable already and they have no money to pay for the treatment then. Also, the problem in ascertaining that is people who have that issue doesn't act suspicously. Usually the keep secret for themselves which makes person who are valuable or close to them difficult to know their siutation. I think with just keeping do other things can help more for them rather than putting them in facilities. It's a difficult task but still doable at the end.

gambling addiction is not a severe mental illness that must be entered into a psychiatric facility, the best way to cure gambling addicts is to do hypnotherapy. I have personally visited hypnotherapy to reduce my addiction to smoking, and there I saw many patients who have other illnesses (phobias, game addiction, hypersexual, and others) that are being treated or are almost cured.

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I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.

It hurts when we read this type of things as that person would be now busted and would not have anything left or would have lost huge amount of money. He forgot the basic rules itself that never bet or borrow money from others for such stuff and he did exactly the same thing. Also going big on such things can lead to heavy losses unless you can afford such loss never do such kind of things.

So not all the time we call it addictions but people must have control over emotions and they should have control that when they want to stop so they can it is much better to make limit for gambling money and get not to exceed it. Addictions is in your hands if you don’t want to be get addicted just play one or two hours a day.

Yes addiction is in our hands but in the initial stage as in the start we can have control on our games our emotions and on our money if in the start we decide the timing of our games and we decide that how much will we spend and will not spend any other amount of money which will harm us then we can do while if we get the start without any planning and limits then we will continue like that and a time will come when we will continue to play without any control and will be fully addicted.

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Quote from: onrise on December 24, 2019, 05:05:28 AM

Quote from: Ucy on December 24, 2019, 04:07:17 AM

I wonder what specifically the person gamble on? The article did not mention it unfortunately. I guess he gambled on stock hoping to make quick profits and return back what he took. Both Op post and the article sound like he took the huge sums of money and spent it in a casino or something. Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.

It hurts when we read this type of things as that person would be now busted and would not have anything left or would have lost huge amount of money. He forgot the basic rules itself that never bet or borrow money from others for such stuff and he did exactly the same thing. Also going big on such things can lead to heavy losses unless you can afford such loss never do such kind of things.

So not all the time we call it addictions but people must have control over emotions and they should have control that when they want to stop so they can it is much better to make limit for gambling money and get not to exceed it. Addictions is in your hands if you don’t want to be get addicted just play one or two hours a day.

Without emotions, the game and spent time don't become enjoyable, from my experience. People should walk to the casino with the idea of having fun, thinking strategies on the mind and applying money management will take the energy which can be used for spending a good time. Some online gambling sites have a time-limit function, if the gambler wants to limit his spent time, adjusting the time will be enough to block the account's access to site temporarily.

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That's an example of addiction we should all avoid.
He didn't just risk his money but also he stole money from the company that he is working and this is even worse... But those people who are working in Stock and trading companies are the biggest gamblers of all...

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They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.

Indeed, they are having some psychological problems, and needed to be asess by professionals , gambling is good for fun, and for creating money, but in moderation because if not, it will only lead to a bigger problem that can affect not only themselves, but also to those people who are in their environment. Addiction is too hard to stop, especially if it is too long before that person is aware that he is an addict. Family and friends should help him and distract him with other things.

Gambling addiction is worse and it also hard to control but I'm the type of person that believes prevention is always better than cure because if a gambler is aware of addiction consequences such gambler won't dare put what he/she precious most on the line. Therefore, i think gambling company needs to showcase on their site proper awareness to their users.

What do you mean by that, gambling company needs to do the same with cigarettes business where they've place pictures of sick person and an slogans that's said "cigarettes smoking is not good for your health" not sure if that will happen, as casino house wanted gamblers to keep playing and keep chasing for their lucky day. It's people's mindset that needs to be changed to avoid heavy addiction.

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I have not done anything of this level and I don’t think I will ever do such things.These things are made by ill people who have the addiction as their illness.They will do anything to achieve their goals just like a drug addict would.I think that some years in jail would be the right punishment for such persons and also there to be treated for their illness.

I don't think prison can actually help them to reduce the addictions and it will just create it more intensely in them and when they will be out in freedom, they might bet more furiously to make up for the potential wins they imagined they would have made had they not gone in prison.

They have psychological issues not behavior ones that prison will serve them for the right purpose. Prison will rather as you mentioned escalate the addiction. They need to be in some rehabilitation center where their addiction is analyzed and they are given treatments along with therapies that could help them in overcoming the bad thoughts they have. They are not criminals rather they shall be treated as mental patients.

It's rare to treat patients that has gambling addiction issue. Usually, those who are addicted in gambling in which they have nothing left to gamble due to their lack of control became miserable already and they have no money to pay for the treatment then. Also, the problem in ascertaining that is people who have that issue doesn't act suspicously. Usually the keep secret for themselves which makes person who are valuable or close to them difficult to know their siutation. I think with just keeping do other things can help more for them rather than putting them in facilities. It's a difficult task but still doable at the end.

There are many other types of patients in rehabilitation centers but gambling addicts are damn less in numbers. Those who basically are under the supervision of families or are dependent on their families for financial supports, they cannot hide their addiction because families do take report of their expenses but those who are themselves the heads of family, they are the ones whose addiction make things worse and they are rarely taken to doctor.

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Taking any kind of risk could be described as gambling, I guess.

Every gambling player I think is aware of what risks they will get. The biggest risk in gambling is defeat, the greater the loss, the greater the cause they become financially worse. Many people are too optimistic to take advantage when playing gambling, but they will forget that the biggest gambling secret is defeat. Play well, but we also have to be good at managing finances, because losing & winning is a must in gambling.

Yes, they are aware of the risk, but after they play another round, they forget to that risk, and they spend too much money without thinking about the chance to get lost. The big risk in gambling is hard to defeat, but we can prevent another loss if we don't stop. So before you lose more money, it is better you can stop yourself from playing gambling, and you will have a chance to save your money.

From the very start they are already aware of the risk but they are not afraid of taking risk that is why they are gamblers.
When they gamble more and more and they keep losing most of the time, that' gives a challenge to them and they don't give up, that makes them addicted because they are up to the challenge and failed to use their mind and let their emotion take control on them.

They feel it's too difficult to control themselves, and the passion for playing gambling will always be there. That makes them play more and more without thinking about what will happen later. They accept the risk, they use more money, and in the end, they lose their money, but they will difficult to recover the lost. If they lose, they feel that it is a challenge how they can get the money back.

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