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Quote from: SirLancelot on August 20, 2019, 04:37:46 AM

I am just wondering what you mean by them sacrificing. It is safe to say you are one of the supports of gambling a s a profession and that’s not really a good thing. Gambling is a game for entertainment and I believe that’s the kind of player you are. How then can you admire someone who is doing something wrong and against gambling policy because I believe gambling as a profession is not recognized in gambling.

If the efforts professional gamblers put into the game was invested into something better, they would definitely be better citizens of their different countries but then, they decided to waste the effort on something that is not profitable.

I think I really need to know what is wrong with supporting gambling as a profession. I don’t understand how we make it seem like a horrible habit. If you choose to have it for fun, then fine. It doesn’t mean everyone has to be like you. Maybe you have enough money to take care of your needs and all you need is to relax but don’t forget there are many in need of clothing, shelter and other basic needs, so they might have to raise money by gambling and I fall into this category of persons.

It is right to advise professional gamblers to be wise when playing and to avoid greed but what is wrong is to discriminate, I find that very offensive. We all have our lives to live, and let everyone do what seems pleasing to them. This is my opinion, Period.

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A profession is what pays you with a 100% guarantee for your effort

I tend to disagree with this view

Even if you are working full time in a big company, you don't have a 100% guarantee to be paid for your effort. The history knows a lot of examples when even the biggest companies failed and busted (see the Lehman Brothers case to get an idea). And I'm not even talking about a multitude of other professions where your income directly depends on your activity or how much your expertise in a particular field is demanded. There are tons of such professions where your effort may not even be in demand or you don't get what you expect and hope for

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Quote from: jostorres on August 22, 2019, 01:20:05 AM

In my country, the level of employment is very alarming and the only means of survival for a huge number of youths is gambling and you will not blame young people

But how can they manage to play gambling if they dont have jobs because your on a country that jobs are only limited . instead of playing a gambling why can they just use that time explore more ways to live better ?

We can blame them because what i think their doing is wrong , gambling should not ever be treated as a primary source of incoming or a job because it wont just work .

You called them stupid if they treat gambling as a way of living when they are not even making a living on it.
That's a false belief and that's the reason why some gamblers suffers addiction because instead of playing with discipline, they don't follow it, what they follow is their belief that gambling is an easy way of making even if they don't experience it themselves.

The solution for country with big poverty problem is to improve the economy so people can look for a job, they should not resort to gambling.

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Quote from: jostorres on August 19, 2019, 12:10:14 PM

I did betting as a profession for over 2 years before I finally got myself a job, I think that’s almost 5 years back, I lost my job at that time and I needed something to keep me going, it was fun having to run it as a profession. I made sure I used every opportunity I got to play to minimize losses and maximize profit and it sustained my needs during those times.

Since you went through that phase and survived, I am sure you would agree that with time you only up losing more than what you make so gambling habits should be kept within strict limits for addicted gamblers with some breaks in between to prevent huge losses. Bankroll management is one of the key points that people miss out ending up in devastating losses and thus I emphasize on that for anybody willing to take the risk.

I believe those who tend to boast about their gambling skills are typically bluffs - I am not referring to jostorres though, but those who appear on media and all telling people about other sites, they are bascially paid actors for the casinos. Wink

I agree with you mate, I always see people who list out their achievements from gambling and talk about their skills as those who have been paid by the casinos to do so, because in real life being an expert gambler is quite impossible. The game is unpredictable, so how can anyone be an expert or boast of skills? It’s absurd. I understand the aspect of experience as an added advantage but definitely not skills.

I have been gambling for roughly over 10 years now and my friends would always expect me to give them a strategy that would work for each games and I am wondering if I have that for myself either lol. This is a game of lucky that we all try to see how our luck plays out. Let’s not be deceived, there is no professional gamblers anywhere in the world.

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Quote from: jostorres on August 22, 2019, 01:20:05 AM

In my country, the level of employment is very alarming and the only means of survival for a huge number of youths is gambling and you will not blame young people

But how can they manage to play gambling if they dont have jobs because your on a country that jobs are only limited . instead of playing a gambling why can they just use that time explore more ways to live better ?

We can blame them because what i think their doing is wrong , gambling should not ever be treated as a primary source of incoming or a job because it wont just work .

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Quote from: jostorres on August 22, 2019, 01:20:05 AM

In my country, the level of employment is very alarming and the only means of survival for a huge number of youths is gambling....

Can you explain more? I just can't believe that this is possible.
Gambling operators are operating for profit and they have been doing that consistently that's why the industry is growing.

If some people in your county can rely on gambling for their daily means, they should easily become rich, and that will get them out from poverty.
What I really know is that the poor gets poorer when they are too focus in gambling, this one is pretty different.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 20, 2019, 05:37:22 AM

Lol those you mentioned is not a professional gamblers because a gambler with skills and abilities don’t gamble constantly specially when they feel like luck wasn’t on their side

You are right bro, nobody would leave a good job to become a professional gambler and also no professional gambler, planned to be. Some of us got into this as a result of the circumstances that surrounded us and some of the things we went through. I find some comments very insensitive, especially those that are good with insulting gamblers for having it as a profession.

In my country, the level of employment is very alarming and the only means of survival for a huge number of youths is gambling and you will not blame young people that a trying to get a living for themselves and families. This is at least better than stealing and involving in other criminal activities.

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Quote from: Becky666 on August 19, 2019, 06:01:11 AM

They still lose their games even at the position of being a professional gambler. I was funtunate to associate with some gamblers and know pretty much in their ways of life, they are risk takers and not professionals like we thought, they lose often but ready to take any risk to take back their loses, this makes them differs from us the regular gambler's.

Even if they lose, they still try to gamble, but they can make money on the other days.

Lol those you mentioned is not a professional gamblers because a gambler with skills and abilities don’t gamble constantly specially when they feel like luck wasn’t on their side

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Maybe they are very lucky to do that because not all gamblers can win in the gambling and we know that needs luck.

This happens once every blue moon and not for many people so I think this is isolated cases and cannot be expected for many occasions

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That is why some gamblers still want to try to become a pro and still gamble because the prizes are too big to imagine. They would accept the risk because they know that is what happens in gambling, so that will not be a problem for them.

I believe that being a professional gambler isn’t a thing people intended to be,it’s just happen that the found the skill and luck always turns to them that’s why they use it as a career

Yeah right gambling is not that dangerous as people call it to be. For me gambling is profitable and i can use it whenever I want and i never let gambling to disturb my daily routine I can use it at night or morning but the true is I earn huge amount from gambling than I earn with my regular profession so gambling can be good profession though

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professionals love gambling and aren't afraid to risk huge amount of money because they can quickly earn it.

yes they can earn it fast compare to a regular gamblers because they are pro and skillful enough but i dont think that they arent afraid , i dont think that they arent afraid to take risk because they are only humans and they arent perfect . there is still a posibility that they can loose in a game . alot of things can happen when they loose like they can loose thier title or reputation and worst of all they loose money .

They still lose their games even at the position of being a professional gambler. I was funtunate to associate with some gamblers and know pretty much in their ways of life, they are risk takers and not professionals like we thought, they lose often but ready to take any risk to take back their loses, this makes them differs from us the regular gambler's.

What I’m thinking is that what you are mentioning here isn’t a professional gambler instead they are a typical or addict gambler that keeping the risk even though they don’t have the feeling of being luck that same moment they’re playing

Those professional gamblers are different from gambling addict,because the professional can allow themselves to lose today and just don’t take it seriously,instead they will go home as if nothing happens and try luck the following day,while addicted will risk everything they have just to win and will seek another capital whatever’s it takes just to play and play

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 20, 2019, 07:31:33 PM

those are gambling areas that you can mostly see professional gamblers that are really living out of gambling. since they are not relying entirely on their luck but their acquired knowledge of the game, they have high probability of winning as compared to other casino games.
if you are a loyal supporter of one specific sport like decades in the making, i believe you know already the chances of each player or each team for a particular match.
Btw, you can read blogs about being a professional sports bettor

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24784296/gambler-x-anonymous-professional-sports-bettor-shares-why-thrilled-us-legalization
https://www.beatingbetting.co.uk/matched-betting-tips/making-a-living/
https://punter2pro.com/can-make-living-sports-betting-professional/
https://underdogchance.com/a-journey/

but this is not for everybody, you should know the risks involved and you should live with it

Thank you for giving those links, I'll take time to read every single article.

I'm not that good compare with others in basketball if its about analyzing the teams but at least I can say that I have the knowledge. I'm not on that point and thought of being professional just like those people who succeed with their gambling career.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 20, 2019, 07:47:37 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 08, 2019, 09:42:50 PM

Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

Depends on what games will we consider, I highly doubt anyone will make livings with slots for example but there are some peoples who make livings by playing poker, you know in real life gambling it's not so hard to understand your opponents emotions, especially if you are expert in it.
Btw I had one neighbor who was earning living money for years by betting on sports games. At some point I was following him.

I also think so, depending on the game the gambler uses. for games based on luck, of course living from that game is impossible because constant profits will be difficult to obtain even if you are an expert. different from poker or sports betting that is not entirely about luck.You can make a steady profit, and a higher chance of win

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Quote from: mitchr4 on August 20, 2019, 07:57:52 PM

Quote from: shield132 on August 20, 2019, 07:47:37 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 08, 2019, 09:42:50 PM

Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

Depends on what games will we consider, I highly doubt anyone will make livings with slots for example but there are some peoples who make livings by playing poker, you know in real life gambling it's not so hard to understand your opponents emotions, especially if you are expert in it.
Btw I had one neighbor who was earning living money for years by betting on sports games. At some point I was following him.

I do not deny that because many people in my country depend on it. Actually, it is okay as long as people who earn money from gambling manage their money properly. However, they still face a big risk by risking life.

I believe that were many people who can live out from gambling too. But I think they hide their gambling activity to other people as gambling prohibited in my country. If someone caught by playing gambling, then he will get jail. I heard from some of my friends that in some place, many people gather and play a card game with money involved. But if some police come to that place, they hide the money and only say that they have a meeting to celebrate something.

But it is safer to play online gambling because we can hide our place and our identity, especially if we use cryptocurrency. People out there don't know what we did in our home, and they will think that we are work online.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 20, 2019, 07:47:37 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 08, 2019, 09:42:50 PM

Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

Depends on what games will we consider, I highly doubt anyone will make livings with slots for example but there are some peoples who make livings by playing poker, you know in real life gambling it's not so hard to understand your opponents emotions, especially if you are expert in it.
Btw I had one neighbor who was earning living money for years by betting on sports games. At some point I was following him.

I do not deny that because many people in my country depend on it. Actually, it is okay as long as people who earn money from gambling manage their money properly. However, they still face a big risk by risking life.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 08, 2019, 09:42:50 PM

Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

Depends on what games will we consider, I highly doubt anyone will make livings with slots for example but there are some peoples who make livings by playing poker, you know in real life gambling it's not so hard to understand your opponents emotions, especially if you are expert in it.
Btw I had one neighbor who was earning living money for years by betting on sports games. At some point I was following him.

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Quote from: livingfree on August 20, 2019, 04:12:15 PM

Yes, there are those people that we call professional gamblers but they have their own genre of games on where they are good. I think there's more or majority with poker and also with sports betting.

Because with those games, relying on luck is very little and it depends on how skillful you are. I'd like to try it out but I have given it up and much better to gamble base on how I feel.

those are gambling areas that you can mostly see professional gamblers that are really living out of gambling. since they are not relying entirely on their luck but their acquired knowledge of the game, they have high probability of winning as compared to other casino games.
if you are a loyal supporter of one specific sport like decades in the making, i believe you know already the chances of each player or each team for a particular match.
Btw, you can read blogs about being a professional sports bettor

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/24784296/gambler-x-anonymous-professional-sports-bettor-shares-why-thrilled-us-legalization
https://www.beatingbetting.co.uk/matched-betting-tips/making-a-living/
https://punter2pro.com/can-make-living-sports-betting-professional/
https://underdogchance.com/a-journey/

but this is not for everybody, you should know the risks involved and you should live with it

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Yes, there are those people that we call professional gamblers but they have their own genre of games on where they are good. I think there's more or majority with poker and also with sports betting.

Because with those games, relying on luck is very little and it depends on how skillful you are. I'd like to try it out but I have given it up and much better to gamble base on how I feel.

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Quote from: Questat on August 19, 2019, 07:16:15 AM

Of course, because they spend most of their time in gambling and they are very ambitious.
Well, professional gamblers does not have to win all the time, they just need to win most of the time so they can be profitable.

I admire those sports bettor who are really good, I've known someone, an online sports betting, and he advise me to have a decent bankroll if I want to be successful as that's the only way we can seriously take what we are doing.

Typical gamblers usually does not have a decent bankroll, and they don't manage it well, professionals are different, they have their own and that bankroll in intended for long term purposes or up to a specific period.

In my opinion, not everything should be done because we consider everything in life a risk. Of what use is it to lose everything you ever owned because you are trying to get back money that isn’t guaranteed, that’s foolishness to me. I would also add by saying, there’s no kind of strategy that makes anyone win, that’s another big deceit.

If you played for years professionally without losing and also getting addicted, I think you should be grateful, because you were only lucky and it’s not by your efforts. This is the reason no one should be encouraged to become a professional gambler. You can play for fun and still make money occasionally.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 20, 2019, 05:37:22 AM

I believe that being a professional gambler isn’t a thing people intended to be,it’s just happen that the found the skill and luck always turns to them that’s why they use it as a career

As in any sport, there are those who live off the prize pool. And that allows them to live comfortably. For others, this is a hobby that is designed to provide pastimes.

The others are the majority of gamblers, some of us are ambitious but we still fall and realize in the end that we cannot make a living in gambling, that's why it's better to convince ourselves that we should do it for fun, with this, we can avoid losing more money that we will use to experiment.

I know people who are successful in gambling inspires us, and we believe because it's possible for them, we can also do it, but it's just sad that we don't have the skills that they do, and no matter we tried, as long as this is not for us, we will not be productive on it.

If others can do it, why not us? Just kidding. I think those who've had success in gambling have the knack for it right from the start. Some people are simply made to do a certain thing. Gambling doesn't need actual education and training. Experience can be a big boost to one's chances but a lot of experienced gamblers just aren't getting that far as well. Professional gamblers mostly make money from sponsors. There are only a few who are skilled, or let's say lucky enough to actually make a lot of money from consistently winning.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 20, 2019, 05:37:22 AM

I believe that being a professional gambler isn’t a thing people intended to be,it’s just happen that the found the skill and luck always turns to them that’s why they use it as a career

As in any sport, there are those who live off the prize pool. And that allows them to live comfortably. For others, this is a hobby that is designed to provide pastimes.

The others are the majority of gamblers, some of us are ambitious but we still fall and realize in the end that we cannot make a living in gambling, that's why it's better to convince ourselves that we should do it for fun, with this, we can avoid losing more money that we will use to experiment.

I know people who are successful in gambling inspires us, and we believe because it's possible for them, we can also do it, but it's just sad that we don't have the skills that they do, and no matter we tried, as long as this is not for us, we will not be productive on it.

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Quote from: jostorres on August 19, 2019, 12:10:14 PM

I did betting as a profession for over 2 years before I finally got myself a job, I think that’s almost 5 years back, I lost my job at that time and I needed something to keep me going, it was fun having to run it as a profession. I made sure I used every opportunity I got to play to minimize losses and maximize profit and it sustained my needs during those times.

Since you went through that phase and survived, I am sure you would agree that with time you only up losing more than what you make so gambling habits should be kept within strict limits for addicted gamblers with some breaks in between to prevent huge losses. Bankroll management is one of the key points that people miss out ending up in devastating losses and thus I emphasize on that for anybody willing to take the risk.

I believe those who tend to boast about their gambling skills are typically bluffs - I am not referring to jostorres though, but those who appear on media and all telling people about other sites, they are bascially paid actors for the casinos. Wink

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